2017 Buick Envision 2.0T - Redline: Review
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- Built in China for the Chinese market, the latest Buick fills up a huge crossover hole in their SUV lineup. Those of you shopping for that ever competitive small premium crossover now have another entry to look at, but it may be hard to see past other well known German and Japanese rivals.
I'm really digging this SUV. I think GM did a solid job with amenities, styling, and pricing. And although it's being made in China, we live in a global market these days, so it's very understandable.
Not only that, it's still an American brand, and it's still being engineered and manufactured by a brand I trust.
And I think it speaks volumes to our American ingenuity and engineering that China holds GM and Buick especially to their high standards.
A few things though, I really would've liked to see a 3.6L V6 option, with the 2.0T as the entry engine, but it does make sense - modern four bangers are reliable, quiet, competent performers that leave smaller environmental footprints than six and eight cylinder options.
And as for the lights being projected halogens or xenons, I'm actually okay with that. I do not like having LEDs; they're far too bright for oncoming traffic, their dispersion is poor and they end up having very poor road visibility considering how physically bright they are, and manufacturers tend to charge far too much for the upgrade to LEDs considering that LEDs are inexpensive to produce.
But hey, that's just me. Anyway, solid review, cheers!
Darren Persad cool story
wow, Buick has come such a long way. far better material quality, build quality, luxury, and features. glad they are going for more of a premium brand niche like Acura and Lincoln rather than going the route of trying to compete with Cadillac/Lexus.
justin bouche another garbage, I hope there are enough dumbass to buy this shit.
ok?
superwangwei3630 ?
@justin bouche and 24/7 Gaming. Don't mind superwangwei3630. He's just another one of those butthurt, bitchy so called "car enthusiasts" that knows nothing about automobiles. Don't take them seriously.
lolz
You are the best in reviewing SUV's. Love the detail and presentation. Thanks.
Looking good Buick!
So, we have been shopping for a midsize SUV, we've test driven everything, last night we test drove this car, pretty much the same equipment, just add in the panoramic roof. I was amazed at how well it drove, just a touch down from the XC60, but better than the vast majority of SUV's....Now the kicker, I 100% agree that at $45k Buick is smoking crack, however, our the car we drove stickered at $42k, out the door price, $31k.....At that price it becomes a very serious contender.
dave smith Yes, the discouting puts this near luxury Buick in Toyota and Honda price range. It really is a no brainer.
Doing 40+ in that residential area, so close to the houses, I am sure they all appreciate that.
The reason it sells in China is pretty simple, actually. Buick, and recently Cadillac, is a symbol of classic, big American luxury - and to wealthy Chinese businessmen, that means success. They appreciate the name cache and luxury that old-school American luxury entails. These same Chinese upper-class could give less fucks about German or Asian brands; quantifying that where world opinion of success lies, the USA. It's all about image.
Also, good review, thank you sir.
That’s nice but China hasn’t gotten rid of their bad reliability issue.
Can the 2017 buick envision auto stop be turned off
How to keep away older buyers: build your cars in China
And I also have a 2005 Lacrosse and the heated seat buttons NEVER work the first time you hit them, so much so I instinctively hit it twice every time I want to turn them on.
Does the engine shut off every time you stop? How does that work? Seems it would wear out the starter fast.
Redline Review is there anyway u can do to Chevy traverse
been waiting for saabkyle04 to do a review on this vehicle taking too long so scrolling through Redline reviews and boom already done a review on it
There's a lot of speculation that Chevrolet's next crossover is going to be called the Blazer. It's either going to be based on this, a completely new platform, or a short wheelbase version of the Acadia. Take your pick.
The 3.6 omission is obviously to move V6 buyers into a XT5. The interior is pretty nice and the price is actually cheaper than the German big 3. Sounds like this prioritizes quiet luxury than sport luxury, which adheres to Buick's philosophy. Given how much Chinese loves the Lexus RX & NX and the love of Buick in China, I think this Envision would be a hit.
Could you review the lincoln mkc and continental? Would like to see more lincoln reviews :)
Also the new MKZ which looks amazing.
The MKZ is just freaking slick looking. i think it blows away the ES, easily.
So we use made in China products daily, but are having an issue with a car made in China under our supervision? That makes no sense at all I like this vehicle I think it does it's job well. Give it a chance before you knock it.
the thing is, GM received a huge government bailout to "save american jobs." a car developed and built in communist china does not save american jobs. nor does the korean built encore
exactly the Chinese make great things, and i like this car. ignore the haters, there just retarded Trump supporters that wouldn't know the difference between the ass and brain of a donkey.
The problem is, GM received govt funds to "save american jobs" and then foists this made in china car off on us. No, i'm not a trump supporter.
Grandma has one, but dam nice looking car. The inside is nice.
This SUV fits the criteria for towing behind a motorhome. The Acura, Audi, and LIncoln MKC are not recommended for towing four wheel down. They may be modified to tow, but the buyer needs to check if this is possible.
Wait..Soyfan included Acura with Buick as a tier 2 luxury brand? What about Buick selling 70,000 more than Acura.
Great Review Man. I agree with you on the pricing. It seems to be the right sized cuv for Buick's lineup. However, they should have come out with the 8sp auto right out of the gate.
Great Review Of 2017 Buick Envision. 😀
this should be getting the 9 speed really soon here
It is a gorgeous car I love love the color and the headlights is the cherry on the top
Are you sure the wood trim is plastic? I've read other places, including Motor Trend's Feb. '17 issue, that the wood is real...but that it looks fake.
My grandpa's Buick does look like this because he has it 😂😂
Full review of the all-new 2017 Kia Cadenza?
Matthew's Car Corner Yes! We have a Cadenza scheduled in February!
Redline Reviews Could you imagine if you were reviewing a Lexus made in China? You'd have a field day bashing the brand...Whenever you shut a door on a Lexus you Always say I've heard better but this Made in China Buick sounds solid? 😂😂😂...Man you're bias.
Why is everybody bashing Buick? If it wasn't for China Buick would have join Saturn and Pontiac as extinct .
I like Buick a lot and my daughter has the Encore which she loves. I'm not crazy about the Envision though and the dash is lacking for my taste. I would still pick the Enclave regardless of how big it is.
UsfanlovesMinho The Envision 2.0T is really good. We had a Encore and currently have a Envision and Acadia Limited. The Envision is best unless you need the space.
Buick is a good SUV for the same thing to others that are the only ones in the past year then the rest of the same thing to get it right now
I like it, but 40k is a bit steep for a upscale chevy.
Fit and finish, actual control usability and functionality of all controls are vastly superior in our KIA Optimas (2102 and 2017)...Gm's dash and button layout missed being thought out!
shopwithaaron Your 2012 have Apple Carplay?
Most of the infotainment controls are changeable through voice controls.
The steering wheel radio controls are the best and no need to take you hand off of it .igh nless you are adjusting auto climate control. Or just set it a d forget it.
The setup does quite well in our 2016 Envision and I have quite a few hours in the cockpit of a plane to know good ergonomics when I see it.
Lincoln is tier 2? I feel like they are more head-to-head with Cadillac and European brands with their new models.
Zachary Grigg Lincoln is near luxury with most.
I didn't expect that exhaust note, and I am drawn in! Yummy.
Pricing does overlap with Cadillac XT5, which seems nicer in pretty much every way. Of courses, it can also be optioned to much higher prices - well into 60s.
mfmf100 xt5 starts at 40k and end over 65k. it's much more expensive with similar content.
I should have gotten this...Damn it...I did get a Ford Escape 4WD Ecoboost..the Ford is pretty comfortable but this Buick has more Ruth slightly more money...but I will end up getting the Buick Regal coming mid 2017
Why do you consider Infiniti as a 2nd tier? I can understand that popularity and interior matetial of Infiniti is 2nd tier but other than QX60, they are priced and mechanically similar to 1st tier luxury brand...
Also, also, one more thing. I watched your video to the end, and at ~$50k, fully loaded, Buick seems to be taking the same approach as the LaCrosse - moving itself upmarket. Yes, you may have a point, that is arguably overpriced; however name "cachet" and value is very subjective. Yes, Cadillac has a greater cachet and always had, but if you put into perspective Buick's past prestige value in names such as the Park Avenue and Riviera, then yes, Buick certainly has argument to charge very premium prices. This angle is one we we all forget - Buick's very rich history in the Unites States, a history that the German and Japanese brands can never replicate. Anyhow, at ~$50k for a mid-sized crossover, I'd go for a lower trim level Porsche Macan. I seen a beautiful black 2017 Macan at Costco on display just last week for $51,000.
I think overpriced is partially based on the notion that it SHOULD be 20% cheaper than anything else in the same class regardless of performance and features. This is better equipped than the cheaper lexus and acura so if you account for features it's really not much more. And contrary to what was inferred in the video, you can't get a German CUV in this class with these features for this money. Now you can get a stripped down german CUV for Envision money and some people (including the reviewer) seem to think a badge is worth more than luxury content. The MKC is just as pricey as this and also has a 6 speed auto.
Well I am going to hope that there are some nice used deals in a year or two and hopefully the reliability is not terrible.
My daughter looked at one here in 2020 and is interested in a 2017. $18k for one with 45k miles.
I think more focus should have been placed on NX and RDX as competitors. Contrary to what was presented here, the Germans cost more with similar equipment and are not really most direct competitors. The Germans start around $40k and easily exceed $50k with the level of equipment on this test vehicle. The NX200t isn't faster, more powerful or better equipped- it also has a 6 speed transmission (as does RDX if Im not mistaken) just like this vehicle. A loaded NX is $47k but you don't get auto parking, 4G LTE, apple carplay, 19" wheels, pano roof and a few other things. I think those features are easily worth $3k. An X3 with similar kit is pushing $60k. And that is the turbo 4 model, not the 6. BTW, most of these vehicles (save RDX) are around 2 tons so Envision is not really overweight for the class.
I'm sorry but what does he mean when he says GM
General Motors if you didn't already find out.
Buick makes cars for people who need rides to their car in parking lots at work ...
I honestly would love a 2018 Toyota Camry review .. idk y
Not just Buick been build out america......Land rover, Jaguar, Ford, Ram,Chevrolet, Nissan, VW, Dodge, Toyota, and Volvo
Please, don't talk about who made them. just focus on the car itself...
How does it compare to the Sorento?
Too much competition in the segment.
Ness Rosenbrad what matters are sales. are people buying it? if so that means it can compete
The upcoming Lincoln aviator will be competing with Buick envision keep in mind luxury midsize SUV segment
Skylar Levi the aviator is probably gunna shit on this envision
the front looks like the enclave and the back looks like a mix between a new Pacifica and HRV
Will you get off the Buick Old person schtick please. Every Buick review have to start with "Buick old person?" Jeez just review the car already.
Not a bad review, but you did not know the reason it has a six speed. The design is from 2014 Detroit, MI when the SUV was introduced in China in limited availability (the car is USA designed). There was no 8 or 9 speed GM had at that point. The 8/9 speed in the LaCrosse is available because that car launched this year in the USA. The car is made in China because the design is not shared with any other division If this sells well, GM plans to make a Chevy on the same platform and potentially then move production here.
I am totally amused by the comments you make about these vehicles when you have never put in one day in the design engineers chair, you are concerned more with the cosmetic appearance rather than with the engineering. I think you would appreciate a make up station in your cars rather than a good quality vehicle...women love this car
And Lincoln aviator futuristic feature are automatic everything and new aviator is going to be a BMW X5 and still you are not worried about the new Lincoln with BMW elements
Why is the audio so quiet?
My guess is the new 2018 Buick Enclave is an enlarged Envision!
It's quite the opposite: ENVISION IT'S A SMALLER VERSION OF ENCLAVE. The second came out first.
He's absolutely right about the climate control buttons being non-responsive. Sometimes you hit it and nothing happens, and other times you hit it once and it advances as though you hit it twice, really aggravating.
Where are you test driving please.
I wouldn't call Lincoln a tier 2 luxury product any more at least.
Hey Sofyan, no update yet on the 2017 Nissan GTR?
What type of fuel?
I am sorry Sofyan, but the Acura RDX just isn't competitive anymore, it is in serious need of a revamp. Honda/Acura has never really excited me, but Acura is really falling off of a cliff, thus I don't think comparing the RDX with the Q5, GLC and X3 is really just fail because it really is not up to them in terms of competitiveness
yeah and it's missing quite a few features found on the Buick which he really didn't touch on. This is far more up to date and it has a better interior.
16mpg in city is terrible.. Mustang GT can do that.. but you have the 6 speed auto ? and you did for sure do a carefu hwy test and got 27-28mpg. I'm considering this vehicle and it's a deal breaker if (when driven moderately, not tested like you do) an average of 22-24mpg of mixed driving and it needs to do 28mpg or better on hwy for my approval as my next car.. the Equinox with 9speed auto reaches 30mpg, apparently, on hwy. I love your reviesws and would be nice to have you do more testing with solid fuel ecomomy results and some gadget that gives an actual 1/4 results, so we can compare with competitors... 50-70 acceleration test is very key.. passing power is more important than 0-60, as many turbos don't have top end and though it's faster than one car 0-60, it may be slower result 50-70... Thanks again for great general reviews...
Ford and Nissan both consider their luxury brands to be full luxury, not 'tier 2' ... if you consider Lincoln tier 2 then you'd have to consider Audi as tier 2 as well. They both are premium FWD versions of mainstream cars
it is wood grained plastic. it is has been in cars for 75 years. GET OVER IT. Saying that a car maker sells X number of units annually, every year is like saying 'every year, every year.' Stop whining about little stuff and your excellent reviews wouldn't be so annoying.
I don't like the quality of the materials. Too much fake wood and cheesy plastic
Beautiful looking vehicle. The only problem is the MPG.
The new Honda CR-V gets much better gas mileage even with 4 wheel drive.
Yet the Cadillac XT5 which costs a lot. More doesn't have automatic back passenger windows 😭😭
Ben Dunn Not fan of the XT5 v6 over the 2.0T in our Envision. But if the XT4 or XT5 get a v6TT...
Buick pretty much only sells in China for whatever reason. I am sure they only sell it here because the price of importing is minimal and they still sell a few. I highly doubt they care that much about what american buyers think about the cars. We are not their target audience frankly.
HDaviator Buick is seen as super nice and favored by younger buyers in China... for some reason. They do have a high quality minivan called the GL8 that we don't get.
HDaviator it sells here too. 200k vehicles is better than Lincoln, Acura, audi or infiniti. i think that has to be noted when people talk about the brand in the US.
The reason it sells in China is pretty simple, actually. Buick, and recently Cadillac, is a symbol of classic, big American luxury - and to wealthy Chinese businessmen, that means success. They appreciate the name cache and luxury that old-school American luxury entails. These same Chinese upper-class could give less fucks about German or Asian brands; quantifying that where world opinion of success lies, the USA. It's all about image.
ya we are
That makes sense. I was sitting here wondering where the heck Buick falls in the GM lineup of cars. They already have Cadillac as their semi luxury brand. Anyway I went and look at some new Buicks and I actually find them to be pretty nice Vehicles especially when compared to chevys.
They should make a Buick version of the Tahoe
bokkey45 why? Nobody would buy it
It looks like a Vauxhall Astra
full rewiew of the all-new 2017 Chevy Suburban
20 City/26 Highway? That is way too low for a Turbo 4 cylinder, I have a 2016 Highlander XLE with a 3.5L V6 and it also gets
20 City/26 Highway.
do a 17 zl1 next
"steering wool?"
Probably Buick envision vs aviator aviator wins with all new design
The fuel economy is the biggest downfall in my opinion.
Why is this guy trying to "burn the tires" on a jack-rabbit start??? That's NOT how a vehicle like this should be driven - and in fact - not how ANY car should be driven!
Bill DeFalco Especially with auto stop-start. That turbo is closed to being dead stopped!
Why do headlights really matter ? Shit if you can see you can see.
struggling brand? fuck me its int he top 3 consumer reports relibabily report
If your Buick and your catchphrase is "look it doesn't look like a Buick" that can't be good for the company
sales indicate otherwise. I think the point is the current lineup doesn't match people's outdated image.
Made in China? I'll be sending a message to President Trump to see what he feels about this.
penvon satire?
Michael Miller yup 😀
I don't like the headlights. Very last generation design.Seriously it's so four hours ago!
Deal breaker... Government Motors, receiving help from the tax payers when the chips were down, the citizens deserve more.
Buick shouldn't be a brand anymore. Cadillac and Chevrolet should be GM only brands!
Aaron Hill that's absurd
chuckwalla gmc makes huge profits
i would rather they kept pontiac
you shouldn't exist Aaron, but yet your here.
Aaron Hill - Yes! Facts.
you complained too much
So its a good SUV but it's overpriced because of the badge...
That touch knob for air-conditioning ruined the whole show lol.... People will not buy that car only for those stupid touch buttons.
If Buick was a person, it would be a guy wearing a fake pair of Yeezys.
...and chinese.
KING SAVAGE President Trump here once i am inaugurated there will be zero buicks made in china MAGA
Thank you Mr.Trump
That's more on the lines of Kia that steals looks from other manufacturers.
LOL. There was a person with the last name Buick, and he was the founder of Buick.
honestly what a junk car. Interior is all plastic. Dated drivetrain. Halogen lights. Not luxury and extremely over priced. Acura over this all day
Buick built in China??? I really like Buick but will pass if it is buiklt in China with chinese parts
David Austin Well, considering Buick is considered higher than Mercedes Benz in China, I don't think they're cheaping out on anything. We live in a global market...
David Austin encore is from Korea. it's amazing how few mention or object to that while folks are up in arms over this
David Austin where the hell do you think they sell 80% of buicks?. gm sells more buicks in china (over 2 million) compared to the us (around 200k) this car was made and engineered for the Chinese market not the us so before everyone starts crying and whining check the facts. by the way with discounts and rebates its a good price for what you get
Michael Miller yeah I think he focuses on msrp way too much. especially when you consider how difficult it is to compare lease rates on luxury vehicles. luxury vehicles are all overpriced, including the brands he seems to think are entitled to high prices
I know Buick is very popular in China. That is what saved them when the times were bad with government bailouts and they got rid of Pontiac but I still want my Buick to be built in US/Canada.
Un Buick like = nice looking? Man you are biased. And I don't even prefer Buick.
Hassan T I noticed that comment. he essentially said the interior is nice aka not buick like. which model has bad interior? even the dated cascada interior is nice quality wise
Hassan T he's obviously a huge fan of German vehicles. they are always his point of reference and he seems to believe anything "American" should come with major discount baked into the price.
Well, I don't mind if he has a preference. Just keep the biases at home when you review a product. Alex on Autos is a good example of how to keep your biases in check. So is Kelly Blue Book and TFL Car.
no way id buy a chines made car and for the money, German all the way
fuck Germany, China is way better. Japan is better than Germany to, German cars break down all the time.
Inifinti tier 2 luxury? Meh
here he goes again with his ageist crap.........
Heya there !! dimension Anyone recognize worse than this work .....
Lexus is basically a overpriced toyota
No China made cars for me for now, I will pass on this just because it is built in China
Car Craze As you type away on your Chinese assembled electronic device?
like off all ur vid
Stopped the video at 'this car is 100% built in China".
Build in the USA or don't get bought at all. Its really that simple.
This car sells so poorly compared to every other Buick. Probably because it is made in China. It's a big turnoff.
It sells poorly because they have a limited supply coming into the country.
Deeply pull broadcast return criticize ok few fantasy.
Lifes to short to drive these boring things. You folks buying these things...Live a little
You talk to much