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संवाद # 48: This ‘Kavach’ can stop train accidents in Indian Railways | Sudhanshu Mani
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- čas přidán 17. 08. 2024
- Sudhanshu Mani is a former officer of the Indian Railway Service of Mechanical Engineers, where he served for 38 years. He retired as the general manager of the Integral Coach Factory, Chennai, where Train 18 was built from design to development in record 18 months under his leadership.
0:00 Intro
0:35 Govt Planning 500+ Vande Bharat trains
6:03 Privatisation in Vande Bharat manufacturing?
12:11 Outsourcing Vs Privatisation
15:34 Tender for 200 Sleeper Coach Vande Bharat trains
16:03 No tracks to support Vande Bharat running at full speed
21:25 The benefits of privatisation
25:48 Status of Delhi-Meerut RRTS
28:37 No such thing like ‘Transfer of Technology’ exists
31:05 Chinese expertise in stealing tech by reverse engineering
33:11 One big failure of Metro train projects remain even after spending Rs 10 lakh crore
36:50 What is Kavach & why it is bigger than Vande Bharat train project
45:10 Kavach will save India tens of thousands of crore rupees
48:18 Mani Ji’s fine experiment with Railway porters
57:14 Mani Ji’s good work to give dignity to railways parcel trolly pullers
His voice sounds like what the rajput kings might have sound like. Very authoritative and yet humble voice.
Thanks both of you bhai log 😀
@@ManiSudhanshu Are you really him? If yes then I am extremely thankful to you sir for your services to the nation. You are an inspiration for aspirants like me. Hope I get a chance to meet you some day.
@@pratyushsingh6158 Why not, zaroor milenge gar khuda (ya bhagwan) laaya!!
@@ManiSudhanshu Sure sir. Thanks for replying! :-D
@@ManiSudhanshu fake😂😂😂
I am addicted to his voice. Never expected to hear him so soon again.
Thanks Arihant.
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Respect for sir youtube.com/@ManiSudhanshu
I have mentioned this in an earlier video of Mr. Mani, this man deserves the Padma Shri. My argument was that he spoke about the importance of aesthetics on trains and that to my mind is a sign of a leader who cares. Now my argument as to why he deserves the award is that - The thought "a porter deserves dignity" makes me feel so proud as Indian. As a citizen of India I feel he deserves the award.(The value of the award goes up if bestowed to Mr.Mani). Jai HInd!
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@@ManiSudhanshu I wish i could do a sher in your honor, but i don't know any. Here's what I can do..Thank you for you service. Jai Hind!
@@alexk798 Thanks for kind words
Very excited! Every podcast with Mani sir is very informative and interesting. We need to have him back on this podcast every now and then... Because he updates us on made in India trains which is very crucial for industrialization of a major sector in India. 🙏
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Bring Sanjeev Sanyal ji again with main focus on economy and urban planning & development
so he is a good person or ,,,..
Ministry should consider this points to implement.
They don't have track and they are manufacturing the trains.
Very logical person u should bring him often on show
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Mani sir ke saath pichli vaad toh bahut badhiya hai. Ab isko try kar rha hun. Sudhanshu mani Saab is awesome
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It always great to listen to Sudhanshu Mani sir, this helped me understand things in structured manner.
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Hope railways work closely with materials scientists at Indian Universities (and perhaps even with DRDO?). There is much scope for high quality engineering materials design and processing at world benchmarks. My simple minded thinking is that the performance specs would be higher than what has been the norm so far.
It's good that such officers are also there who always thinks for better.
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He has very deep and nice voice.
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Very Interesting and Informative talks,Pls bring Dr Neeraj Rai and Rohit Pathania again.
Rohit Pathania fan club 👍✌️😅
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Mr. Vaad, its more than 2 months, plz bring in Mr. Mani a great treasure of railway with another interesting topic. His insights & creative genius in IR r legendary to b rightly recorded for future generations 🙏
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100 percent agree with mr mani ji..50 percent privatization hona chahiye
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The gravitas in his voice!
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Mani sir ki aawaz itni damdaar hai ..mje to feel aati hai inko kissi Bohot Badi company ka MD /CEO bna de …aapki leadership me log already highly motivated ho jayenge aapko sunkar hi
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Very beautiful conversations with Sudhanshu Mani ji - thanks for taking the effort to make this possible.
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Shudhanshu mani ji this is " law of nature " that who ever come for good work
His voice is quiet wholesome!!!!
Great time listening to Mani sir !
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Great to see him back.
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dhanyavaad
Thank Mani Sir, Wonderful & Incisive.
Its always a pleasure & uplifting to hear ur discussions. U r the ideal candidate for a Rajya Sabha member and to b given a single point agenda of 5 years to design, develop & implement the railway map on innovation. But alas the powers r, too much self centered, myopic, egoistic & empty Pandora boxes, that they don't want any others to succeed. Jai Hind. 🙏
Note : They dont even have time/etiquette to say a few congratulatory words r to give a photo op with the maker of Train 18. Vande Bharath 🔥
Mera Bharath Mahan 🤪
I have got enough recognition through kind words from people like you, no regrets 😀
This reply shows the unassuming & humbleness of U Sir. Alas, it heightens my conviction that, through Ur expertise & integrity our country deserves more. 🙏.
But my cryptic comments stands firm.
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Wonderful discussion. Railways has a cult following across the world among engineers (and some other scientific disciplines). There is enough fandom in India as well. We need to popularize news about railways innovations around value added services too.
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Wonderful discussion! I love it!
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Leader is leader wherever he goes
Very valid questions by Mani Ji. Government should also make public where will these trains be employed when there are no tracks to support high-speed travel. Mani ji mentions that he doesnt have all the data. But then all this data should be in public domain. Even if it is for just putting in public investment - that investment should be balanced with high-speed track
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Most respected- showed such interest and innovation in Vanda Bharat Train 18 and 20 project
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Sudhanshu Mani Sir 🙏
Thank u mani sir, amazing to listen to u
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Excellent pod cast, Arihant you are making very useful videos which give holistic information on the topic.
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This was very Informative session with great Questions being the key point.
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Audio marvelous. 🙏 🙏 to Mani sir.
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Sir I like this format you brought an expert from industry .
I will suggest try telecom industry also. How Jio got into place? How BSNL is doing what went wrong.
What will happen to Vi network, monopoly of jio and Airtel . .
As of today there are no 'calls only' recharge so we have to do internet unlimited recharge also and pay higher tariff.
You can discuss all that.
Very good job by you this podcast one of best for India.
Rajeev Chandrashekhar...he is expert in telecom
Very nice gentleman.. a true patriot
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It's always pleasure to hear Sudhanshu Ji. Thanks for this podcast sir ji.
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Trolley scene is real even a small town station has a trolley
🔥🔥🔥Sir I have a good suggestion, you should put some text in thumbnail also to attract people. Just like you did in Ami Ganatra Mahabharatha episode.
If people are interested in knowledge they will watch no matter what. Only those people are attracted by thumbnails who watch big boss.
@@pratyushsingh6158 you are naive bro. That's all I can say.
@@aaramji1846 You have your opinion I have mine. There is no right or wrong
Arihant bhai, your interviews are among the best I have seen anywhere. If your time permits, keep making SMALL tweaks to the already tasteful visual format of the show to further attract audiences. Recruit MBA friends for ideas. A/B testing? Translation into other languages? Looking forward to 100 K and then 1 M subscribers.
Big fan of his voice... It sounds like a king voice...
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The Fact that you have to say Porter instead of Coolie. All these years I was referring to my own people as Coolie. Shameful ! But thankful for this new learning today. We need such podcasts to further Bharatiya Ideas.
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Mani Sir ...... You are a true Nationalist
सच्चे राष्ट्रवादी
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Really feel proud after listening to mani sir
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Namaste sir 🙏
The nation is indebted to your services. Best wishes to you and your family.
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What an amazing voice! ... Great podcast 👌
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Great talk ✌️
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JAI shree RAM 🙏🙏
Ask him how to get this Godly voice?
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He sounds like my mama, like a defence officer.
🙏 muje apna mama hi samajh leejiye 😀
Modi is the very reason for the development of Indian Railways
Lol. Modi is responsible for everything according to his chamchas
@@DS-ux9ld he isnt entirely wrong 😬
Need to do more...there are problems with standardization of metros and even indeginisation.. that's something I was schoked..hope things changes
Really liked your insights and immense love for our country. Indian railways is lucky to have officers like you. Hope we would get lot more officers having great vision like you.
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He always teaches to take pride in Indian technology and focuses on to save India's money .
Mani Sudhanshu
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Excellent Podcast!
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Amazing 👌
Another great video! Love his frank talking 👍👏💐
Mani Sudhanshu
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Our rail factories should be eligible to develop standard gauge trains. Broad gauge is not international standard.
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बेंगलुरु के ट्रॉली का एक्सपेरिमेंट काफी अच्छा है। मगर अगर उसमे एक और जोड़ देवे के ट्रॉली भलेही रेलवे की है, पोर्टर अगर उसका रखरखाव कर लेवे तो काफी अच्छा होगा। इससे उनको भी फायदा होगा और मणि जी का मकसद भी पूरा होता दिखेगा। सोच अच्छी है। थोड़ी मानसिकता बदले तो काफी अच्छा काम होगा। एक और कर सकते है, जिसमे कहा जाए के मालिकाना हक पोर्टर का, मगर वे बेच नही पाएंगे। ये इस तरह से हो जाएगा जैसे सरकार ने शौचालय बनवा दिए और रखरखाव व्यक्ति पर छोड़ दिया।
Thanks for your comment...of course it was theirs but not for sale at all
Derail jada hoti h trains aur ek aur baat 100 mera gh anta mangte h 500rs 400rs ...Ek bag k itne had h bhai...Jbki 200 crore travels everyday in trains
DRDO k director ya drdo m se kisi ko bulayie retired hi ho chahe to...
CSIR s bhi kisi ko bulao
Please bring acharya Prashant 🙏🙏🤗☺️
This kind of talented honest should be encouraged and supported by the govt.I have heard the main architect of Delhi metro also an talented engineer who completed the project before targeted time.Sorry to say due to nasty politics actually genius scholars of different fields are ignored and harrassed by some corrupted officials who are only focused for their vested interest instead of national interest.
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Government has already ruined PUBLIC GENERAL INSURANCE COMPANIES
Wonderful Podcast
Hum first hum first
I listened to all @ManiSudhanshu ji ke vaad videos
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This is so inspiring in so many levels 🙏🏼
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@@ManiSudhanshu sir pata nai apko kaise thank you bolu. Individual basis pe ya bharat k nagrik k haisiyat se. Apko sunn kar bohot accha lagta hain🙏🏼
@@saumyajitbhaduri1083 no need for any special thanks. Glad you liked it 😀
Lot of insights. Thanks to both of you 🙏 Next time discuss on freight corridors - trchnology, how will it impact IR earnings and pessenger traffic on IR main lines?
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Hve ur team never try from ur department..for better facility for sleeper class coaches
Its very good 😌😌😌
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@@ManiSudhanshu Sir your knowledge and passion is amazing hope that railways transform the way you suggested, my father who is an engineer always likes to listen to you
@@vidushisharma2695 🙏 convey my regards to your father
All things are discussed which are in my mind & some humiliating incident abouts (coolie)porter I also feel bad like mr.s.mani .
All these points raised above that in my personal conversation to myself therefore heart touching conversation thanks to both 🙏🇮🇳
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He should provide voice over for movies.
🙏 shukriya, vaise jis dhande mein hoon wahi theek se chale to behtar 😁
@@ManiSudhanshu we want Mani's voice for Metro station announcement
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57:25 for that trolleys My Father Leg got Injured. now he paying for that.
it is a very unfortunate. if someone ones kid come into that path they don't care. 🇮🇳 Railways need much Improvement.
I agree
Apko captions bhi add kerna chahiye jaise Gopi Shankar wale video me tha aur ho sake to sabhi Indian languages mein.. chote chote Korean channels pe bahut si languages ka option rakhte h bekar se content ke liye apko to jarur kerna chahiye
To run faster trains (upto 200kmph), is just track upgrade prerequisite or overhead voltage upgrade and construction like rail overbridges (which may require land acquisition) to avoid slowing of trains due to traffic movement through rail gates that would increase the upgrade cost significantly, also prerequisite?
Yes, all of that is required. Increasing the operating speed of trains is a complicated and expensive endeavour. The main bridges will have to be strengthened. Level crossings will have to be eliminated. The tracks will have to be considerably grade separated. Significant segregation of traffic will have to take place (separate lines for local commuter trains, intercity trains and freight trains) along with better types of signalling system for higher frequency in services. Current block type signalling and dispatch system is not sufficient for higher train frequencies. The overhead equipment will need some upgrades. The mechanical tension of the wires will have to be increased for the safer operation of train pantographs at such speeds. Of course, track joints will have to be changed and they should be less frequebt as well.
So that will require lot more money than just changing the tracks, with construction of new underpasses/overbridges for elimination of level crossing taking away huge chunk of the budget.
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Yes, but only if its done all at once. It is a neccessity and we wouldn't have faced this situation if only we had kept upgrading our network steadily over the decades in incremental steps. This is also something that the anti Bullet train crowd doesn't understand. It would actually be more economical to get a new system all together with a top speed ceiling of above 360 km/h for routes with a high demand/ high potential rather than spending a lit of money for a speed ceiling of just 200 km/h.
Don't get me wrong, we need to upgrade our mainlines to that speed but in a gradual way. People need to understand that such masive infrastructure changes need time to be realized in reality.
The host appears to be wearing a shirt sponsored by 'Swaad' toffee. 😃😂😂🤣
always enjoyable listen to mani ji
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@@ManiSudhanshu sir given reply wow
Inko radio jockey ki job milni chahiye . Mast voice ha
Bring angad singh talk about paf vs iaf and also about the balakot airstrike.
Lowest point of this interview - I don't travel by trains now. 😲😥
Mani Sudhanshu
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On a lighter note, if you want Indian train manufacturers to learn by working together with western train manufacturers, whom did the western train manufacturers learn from by working with- the aliens?
On even lighter note, true, such exceptional and excellent talk is the fountainhead of our expertise in glib touche talking…what’s the good in doing if talking is so productive 😂
Stupid question on a lighter note
Ha ha do not take it to heart, no hard feelings. What desi train manufacturers, including ICF, can DO, is to fund small core industry, engineering and physics r&d projects from their own company profit (and be mentally prepared to grind along tenaciously for decades on end even if success is hard to come by with very little to no return on investment in the short to mid term) on fields where these companies are deficient in technology necessitating learning from western manufacturers- nobody parts with their family gold or kills golden egg laying goose, just like that, even for billions of dollars worth of deals knowing fully well that such deep cooperation and vast technology transfer would create rivals with huge domestic market base with prospects of higher economies of scales being achieved that would gobble up their global market with price competitive products in the mid to long term - so technology transfer is going to be SHALLOW; hence EXPECTATION of them teaching Indians too much should be kept realistic (read it as LOW). Britain/Italy perfected active tilting high speed train technology over several decades when computer simulation used to be far less advanced,, massproduced electronics was less sophisticated- our smart phones have more computational power and memory compared to Super computers of early eighties when they ran active tilting high speed trains. Atleast we in our times have the gift of technology in certain fields to build upon and start with to face challenges they overcame in eighties without those gifts.
We are yet to see any desi PSU train manufacturer taking up (that is DOing) any 1:4 or 1:8 scale high speed tilting train prototype/technology demonstrator project on their own from their profit, grappling and grinding along and continuing to try despite failures, trial running with their share of failures and accidents yet returning to the drawing board with reinvigored zeal, instead of TALKING to impress upon the western train manufacturers with TALK of lure of the big Indian market just to get them to reveal their trade secrets, whilst the GLIB tender clauses at times produce nothing except hot air- major international defense corporates have faulted on their offset promises because of such tender clauses and recently international companies have withdrawn from P75I submarine tendering process (the French and Russians included) without bothering about the big Indian defense market often bandied about, because of such tendering clauses-seems like your bosses not just talk glib, they write glib as well. And western train manufacturers never stopped Indian counterparts from grappling, grinding along and learning it the hard way (that is some significant DOing)-point to take note of. Yet, instead of pursuing their ways, if Indians keep thinking that they are monkeys and westerners are superior intellectual beings, if instead Indians DO intend to exemplify short term failures as proof of perenniality of Indian culture of being handheld and led to enlightenment, so be it.
There is no shame in learning; we all can learn from anybody and everybody. But where is the PRIDE in expecting others to teach without atleast making honest attempts (that is DOing) of learning the hard way by starting from the scratch or bare minimum available in the first place? The Chinese not only invited the westerners to work with them, they also invested heavily in learning by themselves as a plan B- and the Chinese were not dumb to discuss in the social media about having western companies teach them trade secrets, ways of snooping on their IPR and business models and blue print of largescale reverse engineering endeavor with the agenda of making inroads into the global market dominated by those western companies; they understood the nature of competition among western manufacturers, played one against the other on technology transfer, chalked out their plan in their closed conference rooms and approached the western companies with an overt vibe like, "Come, make in China, we will provide logistics, infrastructure incentives and give you access to our market that has huge potential for your profit; just create jobs for our workforce transfer some technology so that chinese economy can also benefit and you will also have to let us establish a communist party orgaanistation inside your factory in China so that law and order can be maintained" so that reverse engineering could fill in the blanks, the jigsaw puzzles in their learn-by-themselves endeavor. Once beaten, twice shy- western manufacturers are not going to take the risk of repeating the same mistake with India they did by trusting China blindly. Is there a plan B in India? Say, if there is a sanction slapped upon India for hundred years by terming train and Railways related technology as dual (military) use technology due to suddenly changed geostrategic political scenario, won't Indians see high speed trains for another hundred years?
Hard feelings? 😀
Mai Samay Hoon :)
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kuli r a big nusance in delhi .. mid class ppl have to hassel just to keep their bags safe
Please bring Rohit Pathania again!
One interview with advocate vishnu jain please
railway should go privatize. see the tejas it's giving best services.
Privatization is must. We need to get out of communist model in every sector.
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Pls bring Manish Pandey ji x Neelish misra x Khan sir 👏
Sir I want to ask you about reasons for Kolkata metro ICF rack problem and improvement in this sector. And also about Medha's capabilities in propulsion system manufacturing.
Sure, next time 😀
I wanted to ask Sir about the news that some 18 odd top officials of railways have been compelled to take VRS so what's it about?
I don't know about most but I doubt if any committed or honest officer has been targetted in this round of VRSs so let it be, no harm done 😀
Very diplomatically replied to the quality of people shunted out, Sir! 👏👏😀😀🙏🙏
@@kapiltandon824 As I said, no harm done. That tells you 😀
His voice reminds me of Kabir Bedi. Strong voice.
🙏 Trump sahab 😊
good to hear nana patekar
Nana Patekar ko kyon downgrade karte ho bhai 😀
Voice ..sir should start asmr in my opinion
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Railways were on crutches few years back with trains crashing & running off tracks, find Sudhanshu Mani is Very Negative in his views.
He himself said capital expenditure in railways has increased. He is suggesting better ways to spend.
@@maramnikhilreddy424 HE SAYS GOVT. IS NOT SPENDING WISE & GOING TOO PVT., he didnt tell spain's talgo was brought 1st here & tested since their terms & costs were steep then Indian govt. pressed for train18/20 coaches made here, also his record in railways is not great.
Alstom is a french company they have a design office in India bhai kuch bhi bol raha hai
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Guy telling long story about poters but not a word about poters unions at railway stations. He had no idea how the poters deal and how much they demand from the passengers. It seems he spent most of his time sitting in air condition office and reciting ghazals
Without knowing anything about the man making superficial comments...He is a legend in ICF, transformed the campus, was the brain behind Train18 Vande Bharat . Know more before posting comments
@@sudhachirukandoth9893 Thanks a lot. The Talgo debacle and Train 18 had no connection. Nobody from Delhi told ICF to make Train 18, it was entirely ICF’s initiative 😊
Sir ne same dress pheni he
Being a follower of the bard, I tend to remember Polonius, in Hamlet when he says, "...But not express'd in fancy; rich, not gaudy; For the apparel oft proclaims the man..." 😃
His voice is similar to prof. Kapil kumar ji 😎
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18:51 what an idiotic comment by the anchor about salaries being paid. Government employees dont get paid for free. they work hard and contribute to this society. I guess people who didnt have the chance to join a govt dept dont know how much one can contribute to soceity expecting nothing in return