ROLAND MV1 VERSELAB WHAT HAD HAPPEND WAS..Not an AKAI MPC
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- In this video I talk about the history of the ROLAND MV1 VERSELAB.
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I’m mostly in your channel for your energy. Very positive content. I love it
Thanks bro!..I appreciate it!
People just don't understand how good the Verselab sounds when put your tracks through the mastering effects. Roland have done something special with the audio path on this machine, it just makes everything sound fat, warm and amazing.
I'm never selling my Verselab MV-1, I know I've got something special and unique.
Forget about the technical specifications, just listen to how it sounds.
Word! I feel you!
Zen-core engine
People are always surprised at the sound quality I get out of the MV-1. It's stellar. Every instrument can have an effect or an effects chain added on to it. This is a deep sequencer. But, like he said, it was hard to learn at first.
Yeah..It has alot of good qualities and the sounds are nice!
It was thee most difficult machine I ever had……so i returned it……can’t stand that thing……..worse product Roland ever made
@@dbloctave Lol!!
@@dbloctave There was people that said the same thing about the TB-303🤔
@@dbloctave you wrong
Bought one in December and to be honest watching CZcams video of people demonstrate this gear almost drew me back but I tell you the pumping drum pattern I produce with this Beast are insane more than anyone have ever demonstrated on CZcams
Oh ok dope!
I appreciate this comment.
@GoDaddy562 most ppl who demonstrate the unit are either looking for likes and they are not into Hip Hop and Trap and Dancehall so watching someone messing on a genre you not into makes one think twice yet the gear is a beast on its own
In the Section Select under SEQ mode.
It is actually possible to change instruments for each section.
So it is not limited to 7 instrument tracks at all.
Just 7 instruments at the same time.
In each of the 16 sections you could have 7 different instruments.
Just that on drumtracks you will be able to use different drums and on instruments, different instruments.
Its pretty deep and hard to explain these things, so that is one problem why people dont understand it.
I reccomend the Free Roland Academy Courses for the MV-1 to get the most out of it.
I was dissapointed in some aspects because I had other expectations from the videos I had seen.
But i decided to learn how to use it instead.
The vocal effects and mastering options are great, I even recorded acoustic ukulele + vocal through it.
The mfx effects are awesome too.
And the sounds are realy good.
Before I got it, I wanted an 808 style unit, vocal processor and some other units, that Verselab has all of it inside and for less price.
Plus mastering effects.
So its a keeper for me and has helped me with a lot of production.
Acoustic Bass sounds are crazy good and a lot of others too.
Nice!..I think it has alot of great features..It has a bit of a learning curve navigating around it..But it seems once you get the hang of it you can really do some fantastic stuff.
I have the Verselab as well and I absolutely love it. The sound quality is sublime and having an mpc one as well, the mpc couldn’t come close as far as quality goes but like I’ve said in other forums, you can’t compare the Verselab to an mpc or any other machine for that matter. It’s in a whole new lane of its own as to what is was designed to do for artists and until you’ve actually spend time with both machines, it’s hard to compare them. I would also like to point out that the Verselab was not hard to learn at all compared to learning how to use my mpc one (if you would like to compare them like that) but they are both great machines for what they are but if your looking for the one machine that does a little of everything, then the Verselab is it. The mpc is a better machine for people who want to dig deep into chopping samples up.
@@donpetruzzi4386 Thank you!
Great to have opinion of mpc user. As I have no experience with any mpc 👏🏻
People that returned the verse lab didn’t understand what they had. It is the centerpiece of my dawless set up.
I feel you.
I'll tell you exactly what this product is. This was supposed to be a real MV but partway though development some exec at Roland came down to look at the projects and said we're spending too much money developing this and we need to get our quarter 1 earnings up or it's going to look bad. So the engineers cut back on their goal take what they have and downsize their plans into this little box and Roland dishes it out as the MV1.
Oh wow ok.
NGL I bought the verselab cuz I love the Roland sound, but I also love the workflow of an MPC. But... After the Verselab, I barely even touch my MPC anymore. Unless all you're doing is sampling, the Verselab was just easier to use and as straightforward as it gets. And you don't get lost in the big screen like in the akai. It's just more simple and easy to theorycraft songs and finish, or bounce it to a DAW for detail work. I got the MC-707 and the MV-1 together. And I enjoyed em so much, last week I picked up a Fantom too. I think at this point I love akai but I'm now a Roland Fanboy.
Lol!..No doubt!..The Verselab is very immediate.Quick and to the point.
I straight traded my live for it after i touched it.
Hi,how do you connect the 707 to the mv1 to work together ?
@@mclevit I transmit midi sync only from verselab into MC-707, then have both connected with their own outputs through a line mixer. That way when I press record on the verselab, it turns on both machines. That being said, it's completely unecessary, adn I used it for a about 1 week that way. I never need that many instruments.
I almost got this a while back (yes I’m an Mpc head) and every time I tried to program anything it seemed mad hard but you got me thinking about giving it a second look. As always great video!
Thanks fam!
Son, you got me dying. 😂😂😂
Another great review Fam! Keep them up!
Lol thanks bro!
You should have 1M subscribers! U do a great funny entertaining job ALL the time....
Thanks fam!!
They said the same thing about the original MV-8000 and MV-8800 those machines were ahead of their time and the Verselab MV1 is right behind them.
Verselab is dope. I’ve had mine since June and I’ve spent the last few months really digging in to it and finding out what it can do. Put down the DAWs for the time being to learn this thing. Looking forward to another update from Roland
No Doubt fam!
The Verselab is even more powerful when paired with a MPC
How do you use it in pairs if you dont mind answering? Thanks
@@mega-spinz you can use midi cables or a single USB cable. I used the mpc live and Verselab both are portable, the mpc live can power up the Verselab using a USB cable. Running the cable out the Verselab into one of the mpc live USB port, this way the mpc can power up the Verselab but also can connect thru midi with the same USB cable. I can sequence on the mpc to control the Verselab or I can used the Verselab as a external sound module and sample into the mpc, so this way I can use the Verselab sounds to add on top of my loop inside the mpc.
Oh ok cool.
@@CORLEYKG5000 Thank You ! Got it hooked your way and i can track out with ZenBeats which is nuts. Awesome
I needed this history lesson! I see people pushing out some impressive stuff on the verselab, so I couldn't understand why I was also seeing just as much hate for it. It all makes sense now 😂
Due to the comments on this video I decided to buy the mv1 before an mpc, Thanks!
Oh ok cool!..Its gonna take time to get used to the navigation..But after that you should be good..And if your doing alot of detailed work definitely hook it up to an Ipad or a monitor to use the Verselab Zen app..When mixing I like to take off the effects on the tracks just for better transparency with the sound im mixing and you should be good to go.
Its so sexy and fun though. Im excited for you
Man I love that built-in SP-202 mic Roland occasionally throws into their gear; I figure it's a "scoff point" like built-in speakers that snobs consider entry-level but it should be the norm. This machine has future-classic potential - calling it now!
Another cool video, thanks for laying some insight on this oddball machine!
No doubt fam!..Thanks!
It's funny once you got to the rpg metaphor I realized why I like this thing so much. One thing with the verselab is yea you can change presets for all the tracks per sections and effects. Also you can change those 7 tracks to different track types. You tone track for synth and bass and chromatic one shots, you got drum kit track types where you can load up like a drum kit but the samples can be any thing you can have 7 of those at once with 16 samples to each track and you can set those three knibs to control different parameters on the fly for each track. Of course you might use all the memory first, but you might not. Then you got looper tracks, you can have 2 of those and the loop is chromatic on the pads. And you can record samples and loops and vocal takes from external or internal mic/li e but also directly from any of the tracks or a complete mix down. You can mute tracks by holding mixer and pressing the track. In drum kit track types you can mute sequenced data from individual pads by holding the note button and pressing the pad you want to mute or bring back into the mix. This is good for auditioning section parts to add variety to the mix down.
The 3 knobs with assignable parameters and having 7 drum track types setup withb16 samples each gives this thing a little bit of an SP type of workflow. Sometimes the parameters you can assign to the knobs change depending on what multi effect you choose for the track. For live performance effects you can set up 2 or more drum kit track types loaded up with the same samples but different effects and parameters assigned. I've just been brainstorming workflow with this machine and am still curious about getting an sp404 mostly for skip back and ease of resampling.
Oh ok thanks for the info..sounds dope!
Its not the best sampler, but as a sequencer and quick beat maker, its great. It still needs some updates like add a tempo tap. Some simple things can be confusing to figure out, as the menus are hidden under more menus, and you also have to hold shift along with certain buttons to do certain things.
But for the amount of sounds alone like the classic 808s its almost worth it just as an instrument.
Yeah the shift key has like a million functions on this lol..I recently got one..But I luv it!
I looooooooove my verselab!!!!!!! Just bought another one bc i abused the last one. Its beautiful and simple and fast
I feel you!
@@DyReckProductions was actually playing mine this morning on the bus to work and i have nothing but love sings for it. Such a beautifully brilliant and simple piece of gear
I was so close to copping one of these the other week cause it was on sale...I went with a MC 707 instead as there were more sounds, the workflow is pretty intuitive and I prefer the bigger screen.
Nice buy!..The 707 is dope.
More sounds than 3000?
@@JasonHader apologies I should have been more clear. The synth engine is more accessible and modulation of sounds is much more intuitive and it does have 3000+ sounds and 80+ drum kits. I think they both run off the Zen core engine so, you can definitely get the same sounds on the MV1 through Roland Cloud. It also has more robust I/O than the MV1 and functions quite well as a secondary audio interface for me.
I am torn between this and the 707, sticking point is I like the XLR mic input and the one shot sampling of the verselab, but the more trad approach and screen of the 707, been deliberating for weeks now and still no decision.
@@Thelonesomewhistler I'm going to be straight with you, I got rid of my 707 and replaced it with an Akai Force. It's a more versatile machine, the Roland machines have a slightly better sound but I track my sound through a UAD V76 pre amp to make up for the digital sound. The 707 was great but, I've gotten used to the intuitive work flow of touch screens and larger screens in general. Good luck with your decision!
Hello everybody , The MV 1 is the best for Pro and also beginner and get a beat of set up … but 👀 there is one thing that make me crazy is the fact the verselab don’t have the same effect like the mc101 … scatter and others …
No doubt!..A pro can definitely work it..A beginner might have to get used to the workflow but once they do I think it will be a breeze.
Yeah, probably because it's not intended for live work. It would be cool, though.
The verselab MV1 was released 2 years ago ... and still not unanimous and yet ... the workflow is monster ... you can do a good set up with this …
Its got alot of nice features..But you got to get use to the navigation on the machine..Things are not where you think they should be lol..But the sound is real nice.
VMV1 is what it is...to have easy navigation you have to use a tablet. It's faster and there are more options. I have an Onyx 12 and 2 synths mixer, Yeti Pro mic, T5V Adam, an iPad, it's not a big studio but it's enough and I'm not wasting my time it's direct ... and soon I will use Ableton Live because the workflow is super well done. VMV1 For a production, VMV1 is the first step, and the second is in the Daw, it is to refine the production to add transitions, sound effects. And I also use it for a set like in Ableton Live.
@@tyhlawmusic5850 I feel you.
Totally enjoyed the review! After spending some time with Verselab it has been my go to machine. No it's not an MPC but it can definitely hold its own.
No doubt!
Compromise: If any Verselab owners end up selling their unit. You have to create and save a preset named "King's Banquet" for the next owner to find.
LMAO!!!
I bet I can make some fire with one of these! I'm down for the challenge LMAO
Lol No doubt!
Nice video. I have yet to figure out what the MV-1 was supposed to be. It’s not a MV-8800 or MPC. There is some overlap with the MC-707. Generally you target a customer for a product. I believe Roland has in this case too but I can’t figure out who it’s for.
128 step sequencer is ok for some but not enough for me. There isn’t enough differentiation to the causal shopper of why this unit over a MC-707. You look at this unit and decide that it looks great but I’ll just get a MPC (or a Maschine, Korg PA4X, Kurzweil K2700, FA-06, DAW or whatever) because I know what it’s supposed to do. Most folks have an idea what they want to do with gear before they buy it.
I just bought a new Roland Integra-7 that I will drive with keyboards, MPCs, and DAWs and that scratches my Roland sounds itch. I know what that does better.
Roland targeted this to younger gen beatmakers who asked for a lot of these features. One tool that lets you produce beats, add vocals on top, master and finish the track in one unit.
Yeah some folks rather the MC 707 which is nice..But the Verselab got some interesting features..And I kinda like the workflow..It gets to the point.
When it was five hundo the GAS almost got me on this one.
Lol! I feel you.
do you take requests? i'd love to see one on the roland phrase lab mc-09
No doubt. Gonna put that on the list.
Too early bro, I use this machine everyday. It's slow but I love it lol.
Lol I feel you.
I own an MPC Live 2 and a MV-1. The MPC sits on my shelf and the MV-1 is always the mix. The MV-1 interface is horrible. The sounds are amazing.
The specs state it has 12 minutes of sampling time in mono 6 in stereo per project that’s more than enough.
True.
I haveva versalab and mpc37..I use them both at the same time often
If I wasn't heavily attached to the TR8-S I would have gotten the verse lab.
No doubt..Im thinking of getting one.
I'm debating between mv1 and mc707.
I just copped a used one! I figured until I get my mpc fixed, I will learn this!!!! 🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣
Nice same here!
You gotta do 1 on the Korg Electribe-A...
Word! thats definitely on the list.
It feels like the MC-101,707, and MV-1 were all the same device with a different coat of paint. I'm excited to see if the sh4d will be a change of pace
Lol..well see.
Does anyone know how do I load chops in this thing? I can only load them as a tone, and not in different pads, I've read the manual 100 times but I can't figure it out.. 🙃
Great video. I thought I was only one. The MV1 sounds amazing. And does so much yet I can’t find any good information on how to use all the features. Every video spends 10 minutes explaining that the drum sections can really be tone tracks…ok we get that. What else can it do and how do we do it
I feel you..I recently got one..Im looking for all the vids I can on it.
Enteraros bien de las cosas que os las estoy explicando,como va la evolucion del asunto musical,configuraciones MIDIS..,etc..etc...bien animo y vayamos todos con alegrias
Thanks fam!
Any suggestions on where to go to learn this thing in and out ? Just got one . Subscribed .
Thanks bro! "Coolout beats" is a good channel to learn..And hes real passionate about the unit So he can answer alot of questions czcams.com/video/2sJuIHW1Nzs/video.html
when you see this, you wonder why roland didnt release theyre version of a practical sequencer like the beatstep or the seq64, with that kind of architecture they would of sold a million units....
Yup!
Another excellent video bro, So you said there something in that machine that help you finish the song ? 👂🏾 did I hear you correctly. That sounds dope if it’s true.
Yeah it actually promotes song completion the way the sequence structure is set..It has style templates arpeggios and riffs that gives you cool ideas if your stuck when thinking of a pattern.
It also has mastering section and some great vocal effects!
@@UKULELERIGA good to hear, I come from the Roland Mv 8800 era and I still have it, and will not sell it. Until this video , I honestly didn’t know what to think.
You've got a mastering chain at the end, limiter, multiband compression ect and you can render it to a WAV file.
The mastering tools are what makes it special.
@@futureworldmachines4407 I’m definitely going to look into it twice. Thanks
Were they messed up on this is that they should’ve made this play K experimental drum sampler. They should’ve explored the mic options more and had it where you could sample from a mic on board or possibly specially developed mics that will go with it that was making any interesting equipment anymore.
Oh ok..I got to check that out.
You can sample with the onboard mic.
@@JasonHader no I’m talking about would like accessory mice like you would have for like a zoom recorder. Do something extraordinary
It is definitely it's own instrument. MC 707 was better for me though. HOWEVER, the way it can link up with Zenbeats is DOPE, I wish Roland would get with it and give all of the Aira models this functionality
No doubt!
8:58 i'm flipping dying hhaha
Where is the undo? I have latest update but I havn't heard of it having an undo function yet.
The exit button and the back arrow undo's..the forward arrow redo's..Its in UPDATE 1.8
Hey can you do one on the MPD32? I got one for my first drum machine and I want to hear your opinion on it
No doubt fam.
@@DyReckProductions thanks homie
I still don't know who this is for lol... Is it like a beat machine for singers? Most ppl are going to go for an MPC One or SP404mkii for this price. Now if Roland made a suped up SP with features from this they'd be onto something.
Yeah I feel you..Its in direct competition with the One and the Sp.
I can 100% make music you couldn't make on either of those.
I still don't understand what Verselab is or what the hell they really wanted me to do with it. I mean, at first it seemed like a really, really complex karaoke machine for wannabe American Idol contestants. But to be fair, I got a bro who rocks this thing with hot hot joints.
Lmao!..They aimed it at the wanna be super artist..But it actually has some cool production features..Wish the screen was bigger though.
It's grown on me because It's easy to start an idea... hook it up with a Roland E-4 and you can do some iLL ish...
Nice..I definitely see how it can be a quick start idea joint.
The voice homie i need what your taking 🤪
Lmao!
I wonder if i should try akai force when i already have verselab? (i am more into dungeon synth\soundtrack kind of music)
A lot of folks like the keybed of the akai force..The isomorphic pads..And Akai is always up to date with the latest for there hardware..But if it ain’t broke why fix it some might say.
the hell is dungeon synth
I cant make it through the affected voice. I wish people could just speak normally.
Lol.
I bought one , was disappointed , and now trying to live with it and make some music . Still though... Come on Roland!!!
Lol no doubt.
🔥
Thanks bro!
YOUR GETTING A!…… 🤯
Lol!
MV-1 Sample editing is trash
I returned mines. With a quickness
Still got my MV 8000. And Fantom X6
And still have the Zenbeats app 😂
Lol Oh ok.
Now that’s a hot setup…….mv and fantom with zen……..waaayyyy better than the verse lab
Its like they made the editing garbage on purpose. Like they can't make a dial move something faster. Probly to force ppl to buy zencore sounds. Sneaky sneaky.
Responding to myself lol.. Like how you gonna design "okay/decent" sample editing on the sp404 mkii... Then on the Verselab suddenly have no idea what you're doing? C'mon Roland!! Lol..
Yo Yo dude I was gonna say something about this I just got one 😂
Oh ok nice!
If this thing had a bigger more useful screen I don't feel like it would get so ignored. But Roland seem to be allergic proper displays on their gear, lol
I've got to be honest though, I thought this was a weird product from Roland. They released the MC-707 a few years earlier, and the SP-404 MK2 the same year, there's too much overlap of features
Yeah if it had a bigger screen it would have made a different impact.
Seems true, but the Verselab is like a dream come true to me, while other overlapping products don't hit all the things I like about it.
Yea this thing has nothing on original, the original was really innovative at time, cause most back then, myself included would use a combination of an mpc, and a Roland vs-880 digital recorder, or something similar to actually dump beats to, and lay tracks, but when they dropped that original mv, it was like they put the vs-880 “in” the mpc, and made them both 1 unit, which at time, would save a musician $2.5k lol I wanted one so bad back then but was already was set up and couldn’t afford to just switch for fun lol
Yeah the original was a Beast!
You sound like the guy from "best cry ever" video 😂
Lmao!!
👍🏾😆😂🤣😂👍🏾
Thanks fam!
1:45 nah..not really...
Lol!
😂
lol!
The octatrack is still better …
Lol
Anything elektron is always better 👍 lol..
god! why you talkin' like that?
Lmao!..It's a lil different..If you stick around you'll get it.
@@DyReckProductionsStupid people !
Mad annoying
The most useless bunch of Beta-level Gear I ever bought....
Lmao!! Ahh man.
I could have done without the
sweater and the wanderer deal.
Good report, though.
bro...i really like your videos for their content and you definitely got some skills & knowledge on gear...but honestly my man i only lasted unit 1:31 into your video until and you destoryed my ears🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ For real!!
Whats with the skretchin??🙉🗣 GOD DANG!!! Please tone it down bro... i mean this aren't disney & your audience doesn't need all that hyped up YT bullshit! We just want the realness & fresh beats!❤🙏🏼
Whats up dusty brobot you'll get used to me Lol...I switch it up at times.
stop screaming, its cringe o__O
Enteraros bien de las cosas que os las estoy explicando,como va la evolucion del asunto musical,configuraciones MIDIS..,etc..etc...bien animo y vayamos todos con alegrias
No doubt bro!..Thanks!!
😂😂😂😂
Lol!