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    Hey guys.
    In this DCS World Simulator video I'm showing all 3 kinds of Air to Air missiles and how they work, Hope you guys enjoy!
    I love playing simulators, I started with Arma 3 and then I saw DCS World. I also enjoy War Thunder , Battlefield , Ghost recon, Squad , Rome total war, Microsoft Flight Simulator and more. I also enjoy World War II games including il-2 In DCS World i found all the jets that i wanted to fly in a simulator the F 16 Viper , FA 18 Hornet , F 15 Eagle , A 10 Warthog , SU 27 , Mig 29 , P 51 , Spitfire , AH 64 Apeche , Heuy and more... And if you will download MODs the options are endless: F 22 Raptor, SU 57 , A 4 Skyhawk , SR 71 Blackbird , Rafale, Gripen and the list goes on.
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Komentáře • 68

  • @LongShotChannel
    @LongShotChannel  Před 6 měsíci +6

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    Hey guys. In this DCS World Simulator video I'm showing all 3 kinds of Air to Air missiles and how they work, Hope you guys enjoy!

  • @ColetteHart
    @ColetteHart Před 6 měsíci +29

    Nice basic tutorial! I'd like to see more like this. Maybe one based on air-to-ground ordnance?

  • @aeynghus
    @aeynghus Před 6 měsíci +13

    Love the "JAWS" on that Eagle.

  • @MrReese07
    @MrReese07 Před 6 měsíci +7

    These tutorials really help us. We appreciate you very much! Tell GS to help with tutorials for 2024 too thank you. 😊

  • @jameswilliams1085
    @jameswilliams1085 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Great tutorial Sir, maybe one on on line "chatting" or how to Talk to other players. Thank you for these. They are great!!!

  • @vovochen
    @vovochen Před 6 měsíci +4

    Lovely ! If the YT algo would be fair, new people would have this in the recommends.

  • @Shwobblywobbly
    @Shwobblywobbly Před 6 měsíci +4

    That AGM-45 Shrike in the first picture is having an identity crisis

    • @LongShotChannel
      @LongShotChannel  Před 6 měsíci +3

      Oh man, you right. I havn't notice... google search reliability..

  • @jasond130
    @jasond130 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Great video, I would love a walk-through someday for HOJ (Home on Jam). It's still confusing to me.

  • @henryferris8249
    @henryferris8249 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Good, clear and simple explanation and demonstration. Well done….

  • @Seth90
    @Seth90 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Fox-1... the great furball equalizer.

  • @Krhys1
    @Krhys1 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I wasn't sure of the difference between fox 1 and 3, thanks for clearing that up, LS.
    You forgot to explain what fox 4 is...

  • @zacharymarino8926
    @zacharymarino8926 Před 6 měsíci +1

    1:00 A SARH missile does not actually "talk" to the jet, it simply follows an intense return from an illuminated target. Fundamentally, they work the same as IR missiles, just with radar instead of heat. if the missile and the aircraft talked to each other, than the original missile would have begun tracking again when he re-locked the target

    • @Panzerzwerg
      @Panzerzwerg Před 6 měsíci

      Later fox 1s with datalink can do that

    • @zacharymarino8926
      @zacharymarino8926 Před 6 měsíci

      @@Panzerzwerg But it's explained as of that's just how FOX-1s work, when that's the exception rather than the rule

  • @KENNYB322
    @KENNYB322 Před 6 měsíci +1

    excellent vireo. I wish you had included the min and max range for each missiles.

  • @old_printer
    @old_printer Před 6 měsíci +1

    The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.
    In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was.
    The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.

  • @gwcrispi
    @gwcrispi Před 6 měsíci +2

    1. For Fox 1's how far off-center can your nose be and still maintain radar lock?
    2. For Fox 2's do you have to be behind the target in order for the missile to lock on the exhaust?

    • @Shwobblywobbly
      @Shwobblywobbly Před 6 měsíci +1

      The gimbal limit of the radar was 60° to each side so 120° in total, you can check it by looking on the mfd radar screen, if the target is on the edge of the screen you are on the gimbal limit,
      For fox 2 all i can say is, it depends on the era of missile and situation, but overall shooting a missile from behind is often an easier task for the seeker to hit its target but in compromise of range. With "modern" fox 2's you can lock and shoot a target at all aspects, as long as it has the room to turn in time.

    • @datamasked8632
      @datamasked8632 Před 6 měsíci

      Radar gimbal limit is 60 either side when level/near level but as elevation difference between shooter and target increases the gimbal limit decreases a bit

    • @datamasked8632
      @datamasked8632 Před 6 měsíci

      AIM-9P is stern aspect (up the butt) only. AIM-9L/M/X are all aspect

    • @LongShotChannel
      @LongShotChannel  Před 6 měsíci +1

      1. If you saw the FOX 3 part, the part when I'm talking about the cranck, thats how much.
      2. Old FOX 2, yes. Only rear aspect shot and the missiles couldn't turn that good.
      Modern days, the FOX 2 are all aspect shot and can do crazy turns.

  • @Frost_x_NB
    @Frost_x_NB Před 6 měsíci +1

    You should do a how to defend these types of missiles video next

  • @alfredalexander4084
    @alfredalexander4084 Před 6 měsíci

    This was brilliantly explained.
    Many thanks LS

  • @jareddakid2
    @jareddakid2 Před 6 měsíci

    Thank you for this LS. One of the best air to air videos I've seen!! Great work!

  • @kierano9689
    @kierano9689 Před 5 měsíci

    I am new to all this (found this by accident) and I find it fascinating. Can I ask: 1) what do you mean when you say you are going cold? 2) are all missile strikes deadly or can you get lucky and only suffer minor damage? 3) Can you fire off multiple missiles one after another and would doing so greatly increase the chance of hitting the target?
    Great video and great channel!

    • @LongShotChannel
      @LongShotChannel  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Glad to have you here.
      1. Going cold means going away from the missile or from the enemy.
      2. Missiles work with a proximity fuze, yes you can survive a missile hit, sometimes even with minor damage.
      3. You can, with missiles that need guidance from the firing jet (Fox-1) that will cancel the guidance of the missile before and he will not track any more, so with fox 1 you can guide one missile at a time but you can shoot them as much as you like.
      With Fox-3 and Fox-2, yes, you can shoot as much as you like, the timing , speed and altitude of when you shoot each missile will be the factores of ehether or not that missile is more dangerous then the previous missile you shot.
      So it depends about the conditions of each missile you shot, if you will shoot 5 missile at the same moment at the same target, that will not necessarily be more deadly

    • @kierano9689
      @kierano9689 Před 5 měsíci

      @@LongShotChannel Ty for the fast reply! I have looked at several of your videos and I really enjoy them all. There is one where you explain to those new to DCS how to get the F-15 going, and you mention how when you were new to it, you were perfectly happy just flying!
      I personally would like to know if you can do any of the following (I have an unusual sense of humour):
      1) Fly as high as possible, and then point the nose to the ground as fast as possible to see if you can sheer the wings off before hitting the ground
      2) Using the F-22, just follow an enemy around undetected until it returns to refuel and you land behind it
      3) Fly directly towards an enemy missile and try to shoot it down with your gun
      4) Take on a Mig 29 with an AH-64
      Your channel is awesome man!

  • @Ircam16
    @Ircam16 Před 2 měsíci

    Love the clear explanation!

  • @anonymousdevildog1406
    @anonymousdevildog1406 Před 5 měsíci

    Imagine if a Fox 1 didn't ONLY rely on the radar of the plane launching OR a Fox 2 was assisted by Radars also from other aircraft. That' would be cool. Oh... wait.

  • @firebald2915
    @firebald2915 Před 6 měsíci

    Question ? Crank is offensive. Notch is defensive ?
    Crank keeps them within the gimble and a notch is changing altitude and 90 degrees to the missile fired at you ?

  • @RowanNosnhoj
    @RowanNosnhoj Před 6 měsíci +3

    longshot can you do gripen vs su57

  • @Swordthrower77
    @Swordthrower77 Před 6 měsíci +2

    So it looks the best 1v1 tactic when facing an Eagle bvr is still don’t.

  • @archetype0
    @archetype0 Před 6 měsíci +1

    THank you for this.

  • @codychild2665
    @codychild2665 Před 6 měsíci +3

    What is the max range of the fox 2, and at what distance did you fire the fox 3? Just curious, loved the video...

    • @datamasked8632
      @datamasked8632 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Max range of any missile is highly variable depending on shooter's altitude and speed and if target is coming toward you or going away etc etc etc.

    • @resurgam_b7
      @resurgam_b7 Před 6 měsíci +5

      "Fox 2" is a brevity code to quickly tell friendly pilots what type of seeker the missile you are firing has. The Fox numbers don't refer to specific models of missile exclusively, so any IR seeking missile is a Fox 2, likewise any active radar homing is a Fox 3 and any semi-active is a Fox 1. That is all to say that the range can vary depending on what missile is actually being fired.
      LongShot's F-15 was carrying the AIM-9 (possibly the M variant) which has an optimistic max range of about 20 miles, but less than 5 is usually more advisable if you're looking for a kill shot against a maneuvering target.
      As for the range of the Fox-3 shot, in the bottom right corner of the HUD, there is a stack of 4 data lines, the second value down, denoted by the letter R, is the range in miles to your locked target. When LS fired, he was was slightly over 10 miles away from the bandit. The data can be a bit hard to read if he has the HUD brightness set too low or is looking at bright clouds or the sun, but if you watch closely you can usually peek it often enough to keep track of the rough range to his target.

    • @LongShotChannel
      @LongShotChannel  Před 6 měsíci +3

      Don't know for sure, it varies with speed and altitude.
      FOX 3 shot: you can see the range in the HUD at the right bottom part the letter R and then a number. I think it was 28 miles? Little bit less...

  • @lilletrille8998
    @lilletrille8998 Před 6 měsíci

    Great video for people new to BVR combat - I might be wrong, but it does seem like the Aim120 has gotten a little better over time (in the game) - the Aim7 is not my favourite but still seems better than the radar missiles on the Mirage 2000? (Like I always say, it is just my opinion and I might...well almost always be wrong). One thing I DO like about the Aim7 is if you realize after shooting the missile that you just shot at a friendly...you can just unlock it...when I do that with an Amraam, I sit in my chair screaming - "Please come back...I WANT to take it back...I am SO sorry...then sulk for 30 minutes....

  • @netwrkguy
    @netwrkguy Před 6 měsíci +2

    When you re locked the jet. Why wouldn't the 1st missle reengage thw target?

    • @LongShotChannel
      @LongShotChannel  Před 6 měsíci +4

      Thats how that missile work. Just gone.
      It might be more advanced FOX1 that do that. Might be a Russian one...

  • @davidpalmer4184
    @davidpalmer4184 Před 6 měsíci

    Thanks LS, Good educational video.

  • @MaxCS06
    @MaxCS06 Před 6 měsíci

    The missile knows where it is. It knows this because it knows where it isn’t 😊

  • @user-ub7ik2wd3i
    @user-ub7ik2wd3i Před 6 měsíci

    I'd like to know more about proper launch parameters for these missles

  • @TLR_
    @TLR_ Před 6 měsíci +3

    I don’t think there is a ?

  • @MyAbomination-iz9oy
    @MyAbomination-iz9oy Před 3 měsíci +1

    Enjoyed the vid

  • @Ark_178
    @Ark_178 Před 6 měsíci +3

    What version of Aim7 is he shooting?

  • @worldbreaker1023
    @worldbreaker1023 Před 6 měsíci

    2nd comment! Man, thanks for this tutorial. I'm an engineer and I struggle getting started in dcs

  • @wilsonrawlin8547
    @wilsonrawlin8547 Před 6 měsíci

    Very nice DEMO LS!

  • @infoscholar5221
    @infoscholar5221 Před 6 měsíci +1

    How does one meet the models in your merch ads? Great video, I mean.

  • @resurgam_b7
    @resurgam_b7 Před 6 měsíci

    4:51 "I don't need that because I have missiles." and you didn't give any to him? How very unsporting of you 😂
    Edit: Ah, I see that you leveled the playing field for demonstration following your curb stomping exercise, good show!

  • @ottavios932
    @ottavios932 Před 6 měsíci

    you dont trake my if i'm behind your shoulders..

  • @Ronin-ze2yi
    @Ronin-ze2yi Před 6 měsíci

    Why do you dive to the ground in the first crank? Isnt it a waste of energy especially if it's a cheapshot?

    • @AnzuBralor
      @AnzuBralor Před 6 měsíci +2

      The crank itself is part of going pre-defensive in case of a return fired missile - turning beam/notch (going perpendicular to the target locker/missile) or going full cold is going fully defensive. Losing altitude is always a part of missile defence - the thicker atmosphere means the missile has to expend more energy to follow you, which means it's more likely to fall short. The higher altitude you are, the better it is for the missiles you fire, but also the more likely it is for enemy missiles to hit you.

  • @TheTrailRanger44
    @TheTrailRanger44 Před 6 měsíci

    First!

  • @dariuszostaszewski8473
    @dariuszostaszewski8473 Před 6 měsíci

    it's nice to see you again :)

  • @eduardokarlos1419
    @eduardokarlos1419 Před 6 měsíci

    In DCS, rockets work as a material point with scripts and there is nothing real in them.

  • @thexlonewolf671
    @thexlonewolf671 Před 6 měsíci

    obligotary_the_missile_knows_where_it_is_copy_pasta.txt

  • @TLR_
    @TLR_ Před 6 měsíci

    I don’t think there is a ?