I had the pleasure of reading Dune... I honestly think that Dune has concepts and ideas that are going to be discussed and thought for hundreds (if not thousands of) years. You did a great job at presenting why and how should anyone read it!
Bro this is the best review of Dune,I am saying this after watching 7 other videos each one them contained major spoilers.Your spoiler free review is great bro.
I think he did wondorful job at portraying women. The book starts and ends with the conversation between two women who passed the torch to the other. Women are crazy strong with their bodies, sharp mind and wise, but still are feminine in their nature. I love seeing that Paul was surrounded by strong female presence that made him who he is and the other hand, Feyd-Rautha had no strong women in his life and that caused many of his problems. Some of the most important decision were made by women and this shows who really has the control.
Started reading it a few days ago. At page 160, first read into sci-fi/fantasy, confused as hell right now but enjoying the dialouge/writing. Never have been into worldbuilding but enjoying the intracacies of the world. Looking forward to finishing it and watching the movies.
So my answer is no, I hated Lotr because of its heavy world building and off pacing but just because it wasn’t for me doesn’t mean it’s not for you. I prefer a soft world build in my fantasy like Kafka on the shore (brilliant magic realism btw) but hey each to their own. X Would love to see if you have any soft built sci fi recommendations
I agree. I didn't hate LOTR, but it's very slow and Tolkien takes forever to describe something like a forest or cliff face. Dune was more brutal for me. Insanely slow and a ton of dialogue with very dull characters. I don't really get the hype. Sure, the world building is great, but that's really it. AND the Dune sequels suck lol
Going back and reading the first dune book in prep for the 2nd movie was surprising to me. I agree that Herbert doesn’t give his female characters much attention at all in the first book, which is shocking considering how the last 2 books in the series are almost entirely female characters.
Unfortunately I had to DNF it after book 1. It just wasn't for me. I didn't like any of the characters and I found reasons to put it down after just a few pages at a time. I admire those who can stick with it but it just bored me.
Good books, but don't feel the need to force yourself once you've gotten to a point you're satisfied with. If you're interested in the sequels, at least give Messiah a try. It's a continuation of the plot lines from the first book and has a much more "complete" ending.
Well give messiah a try and if you do, you should probably read children of dune, it’s kinda a slog but the fourth one is very good. And then at that point you only have two left so might as well read em
The sequels can be easily divided into groups of 2. If you read dune, you should prob read messiah. If you read the next book, children, absolutely read the book that follows. The final two books do not conclude their story as frank Herbert passed away before he could finish. If you loved dune’s prose, I would at least read through the forth book because it’s a trip in all the best ways
I read it and I found the first 80%-90% (perhaps even more) of the book to be really boring. The framework is good and the plot is good, the inventiveness and back story are good but the writing is mundane. It came to life at the end and like a woman who has just had a child, When I finished, I forgot the pain. I think there are a few reasons for that. It was written way back in the early 1960's and a lot of the ideas have lost their freshness. The writing though? It's not great. Sorry, it's just not.
talk about a forced analogy that’s elementary level at best, not to mention delivered poorly. spewed out all that filler just to amount to saying “book boring”. such pretentious nonsense from one so pellucid is easily deduced 🤷♂️
@@dreux_ uhh dude his “forced analogy” is a saying lol. And also he didn’t spew out a paragraph of “pretentious nonsense” those are genuine constructive criticisms based on his experience with the book. I’d argue your the one being pretentious for calling him “easily deduced” and “Pellucid” for thinking a book was boring. Anything can be “easily deduced” if you want it to be.
I've got 2 more chapters to finish then done with this. Definitely not going to be a favorite of mine, as I found it a complete slog. The sense of time progression and flow are awful. Most of the book is talking heads. The perspective of characters is almost non-existent except for Gurney's moment where he sees Paul for the first time in two years. Important events are mentioned as if in passing with very little if any detail given. Certain chapters like the formal dinner and Kynes' final chapter are mind-numbingly boring. I'm sorry but how did this book ever become a classic? The writing is amazingly poor. Contemporary authors like Brandon Sanderson are a thousand times better. Sorry for the downer summary but I've been so frustrated with this book ever since I picked it up and was wondering if anyone else found it to be as frustrating.
Nah, just you 😂. It seems you’re more into fun books than books that’ll make you think, hence the “boring” comments. It became a classic because it touches upon humanity, several aspects of it. It’s ok to not like the book, it’s not ok to discredit it because you didn’t like it.
@@nenyeo6090 No no, it's not that at all. I'm into good _storytelling._ Good worldbuilding isn't enough. As a writer myself, I would never be able to get away with what Dune has done. I don't think Dune would have been successful if published today. Talking heads is not a good technique. Also, one of the primary tenets of writing (show, don't tell) is not just a quip. It's actually important. I did finish the book finally and I'm glad it's over. Paul's son is killed and we never even met him. That's very dumb. Thankfully, we did get a bit of choreography in Paul's fight with Feyd. But just barely. The final battle where the Fremen storm the Emperor's position is only given from the perspective of the people on the receiving end. So much is missing. It's definitely not about "fun". Go study storytelling and you'll see how much is missing here.
On page 500/617. Started 2 weeks ago, definitely a commitment but it’s SO GOOD!! I’ll recommend this book forever.
I had the pleasure of reading Dune... I honestly think that Dune has concepts and ideas that are going to be discussed and thought for hundreds (if not thousands of) years. You did a great job at presenting why and how should anyone read it!
Bro this is the best review of Dune,I am saying this after watching 7 other videos each one them contained major spoilers.Your spoiler free review is great bro.
This sealed the deal. I’m putting Dune on my to be read lost. Thank you for this very calm and informative video^^
Spoiler free videos like this are seriously so helpful, thank you
Dune is on my 2024 TBR list. And yes i’m quite intimidated, but i’m going for it, thank you for the insight
I think he did wondorful job at portraying women. The book starts and ends with the conversation between two women who passed the torch to the other. Women are crazy strong with their bodies, sharp mind and wise, but still are feminine in their nature. I love seeing that Paul was surrounded by strong female presence that made him who he is and the other hand, Feyd-Rautha had no strong women in his life and that caused many of his problems. Some of the most important decision were made by women and this shows who really has the control.
Started reading it a few days ago. At page 160, first read into sci-fi/fantasy, confused as hell right now but enjoying the dialouge/writing. Never have been into worldbuilding but enjoying the intracacies of the world. Looking forward to finishing it and watching the movies.
dude idk why u keep saying Dune, u obviously read ENUD
I don’t recommend Dune to people with a weak mentality because it really hard to process everything in the book
So my answer is no, I hated Lotr because of its heavy world building and off pacing but just because it wasn’t for me doesn’t mean it’s not for you. I prefer a soft world build in my fantasy like Kafka on the shore (brilliant magic realism btw) but hey each to their own. X
Would love to see if you have any soft built sci fi recommendations
I agree. I didn't hate LOTR, but it's very slow and Tolkien takes forever to describe something like a forest or cliff face. Dune was more brutal for me. Insanely slow and a ton of dialogue with very dull characters. I don't really get the hype. Sure, the world building is great, but that's really it. AND the Dune sequels suck lol
Going back and reading the first dune book in prep for the 2nd movie was surprising to me. I agree that Herbert doesn’t give his female characters much attention at all in the first book, which is shocking considering how the last 2 books in the series are almost entirely female characters.
Read the book you want to read. Read everything, discard what you don't like, keep what you do.
Unfortunately I had to DNF it after book 1. It just wasn't for me. I didn't like any of the characters and I found reasons to put it down after just a few pages at a time. I admire those who can stick with it but it just bored me.
Too late dude, I already read it! 🤪
Just finished Dune this week, thoughts on the sequels?
Good books, but don't feel the need to force yourself once you've gotten to a point you're satisfied with.
If you're interested in the sequels, at least give Messiah a try. It's a continuation of the plot lines from the first book and has a much more "complete" ending.
Well give messiah a try and if you do, you should probably read children of dune, it’s kinda a slog but the fourth one is very good. And then at that point you only have two left so might as well read em
The sequels can be easily divided into groups of 2. If you read dune, you should prob read messiah. If you read the next book, children, absolutely read the book that follows. The final two books do not conclude their story as frank Herbert passed away before he could finish. If you loved dune’s prose, I would at least read through the forth book because it’s a trip in all the best ways
Is Dune okay for new sci-fy readers?
The quick answer is yes lol
I read it and I found the first 80%-90% (perhaps even more) of the book to be really boring. The framework is good and the plot is good, the inventiveness and back story are good but the writing is mundane. It came to life at the end and like a woman who has just had a child, When I finished, I forgot the pain. I think there are a few reasons for that. It was written way back in the early 1960's and a lot of the ideas have lost their freshness. The writing though? It's not great. Sorry, it's just not.
talk about a forced analogy that’s elementary level at best, not to mention delivered poorly. spewed out all that filler just to amount to saying “book boring”. such pretentious nonsense from one so pellucid is easily deduced 🤷♂️
@@dreux_ uhh dude his “forced analogy” is a saying lol. And also he didn’t spew out a paragraph of “pretentious nonsense” those are genuine constructive criticisms based on his experience with the book. I’d argue your the one being pretentious for calling him “easily deduced” and “Pellucid” for thinking a book was boring. Anything can be “easily deduced” if you want it to be.
I've got 2 more chapters to finish then done with this. Definitely not going to be a favorite of mine, as I found it a complete slog. The sense of time progression and flow are awful. Most of the book is talking heads. The perspective of characters is almost non-existent except for Gurney's moment where he sees Paul for the first time in two years. Important events are mentioned as if in passing with very little if any detail given. Certain chapters like the formal dinner and Kynes' final chapter are mind-numbingly boring. I'm sorry but how did this book ever become a classic? The writing is amazingly poor. Contemporary authors like Brandon Sanderson are a thousand times better. Sorry for the downer summary but I've been so frustrated with this book ever since I picked it up and was wondering if anyone else found it to be as frustrating.
Nah, just you 😂. It seems you’re more into fun books than books that’ll make you think, hence the “boring” comments. It became a classic because it touches upon humanity, several aspects of it. It’s ok to not like the book, it’s not ok to discredit it because you didn’t like it.
@@nenyeo6090 No no, it's not that at all. I'm into good _storytelling._ Good worldbuilding isn't enough. As a writer myself, I would never be able to get away with what Dune has done. I don't think Dune would have been successful if published today. Talking heads is not a good technique. Also, one of the primary tenets of writing (show, don't tell) is not just a quip. It's actually important. I did finish the book finally and I'm glad it's over. Paul's son is killed and we never even met him. That's very dumb. Thankfully, we did get a bit of choreography in Paul's fight with Feyd. But just barely. The final battle where the Fremen storm the Emperor's position is only given from the perspective of the people on the receiving end. So much is missing. It's definitely not about "fun". Go study storytelling and you'll see how much is missing here.
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