Jason Stanley Warns: "America Is Now in Fascism’s Legal Phase" | Amanpour and Company
Vložit
- čas přidán 2. 08. 2024
- Yale philosophy professor Jason Stanley sees January 6, 2021 as part of a history of fascist impulses in American politics. This is the focus of his book "How Fascism Works: The Politics of Us and Them." His latest article in The Guardian is titled “America is now in fascism’s legal phase.” Stanley speaks with Michel Martin about what he calls an “extremely critical moment” for democracy around the world.
Originally aired on January 6, 2021.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Subscribe to the Amanpour and Company. channel here: bit.ly/2EMIkTJ
Subscribe to our daily newsletter to find out who's on each night: www.pbs.org/wnet/amanpour-and-...
For more from Amanpour and Company, including full episodes, click here: to.pbs.org/2NBFpjf
Like Amanpour and Company on Facebook: bit.ly/2HNx3EF
Follow Amanpour and Company on Twitter: bit.ly/2HLpjTI
Watch Amanpour and Company weekdays on PBS (check local listings).
Amanpour and Company features wide-ranging, in-depth conversations with global thought leaders and cultural influencers on the issues and trends impacting the world each day, from politics, business and technology to arts, science and sports. Christiane Amanpour leads the conversation on global and domestic news from London with contributions by prominent journalists Walter Isaacson, Michel Martin, Alicia Menendez and Hari Sreenivasan from the Tisch WNET Studios at Lincoln Center in New York City.
#amanpourpbs
In all US-based media pieces I have seen over the last 4 years, this is the very first where somebody raises the geopolitical dangers of American democracy failing. As a European, I am astounded that this fact is not received more attention.
I am dutch and living in France. I totally agree with you. This needs much more attention. Think of the situation in Germany. This is dangerous. Support please Midas Touch, The Lincoln Project etc. Make contact with the media in your land to warn. Thanks for this great talk.
EXCELLENTLY PUT, Thanking you.
*_TLDR; version of my other 2 comment screed of consciousness from a slightly different angle:_*
I would say a materially grounded definition of "fascism" to break through the more aesthetic surface level culturally reinforced understanding is like the colonial mechanisms of empire coming back home to reinforce itself domestically with those social control mechanisms on some subjugated class of the population, like the often glossed over _2nd_ reich did after a genocide against the Herero and Namaqua subjugated populations in modern day Namibia/Shark Island, complete with scientific experimentation/racism and concentration camps, funnily enough the same 2nd reich social order praised by nonother than W.E.B. Du Bois who Stanley mentioned briefly in this video though this particular brutality and far greater hindsight was unbeknownst to him, basically a proving grounds for institutionalizing social bondage via terror/surveillance. The Phoenix Program coming back home for domestic implementation fully and explicitly (as it already has, and been explicitly cited in some police departments, perhaps unsurprisingly), surely with robot gun dogs.
Robert Paxton in The Anatomy of Fascism defines it pretty succinctly as such, as well as a more general notion, essentially _"the suppression of the left amidst popular enthusiasm"_ evidenced especially clearly in say Mussolini's march on Rome, the blackshirt street brawlers under his direction taking out channeling their social purposelessness and pent up energies into beating up union/labor leaders, effectively a giant demonstration of the movement's utility in this task, posturing to capital for further support (spoiler: gets further support lol...).
There is of course a _major_ difference between now and the 30s which is of course the US has established a _global_ neoliberal corporate empire at the behest of now _supranational_ finance/corporate capital, starting immediately after WWII with Bretton-Woods cementing the dollar as the global reserve currency (petrodollar vulnerability exposed after Nixon shock with OPEC oil embargo in '73 patched up) and using dat IMF/World Bank as well as unilateral sanctions (imposed on 1/3rd of the world currently) to coerce any sort of confined labor pools required to maximize profits, unrestricted flow of capital/tight restriction of labor is of course the mechanism by which they maintain this, moving around to reinforce itself where necessary and essentially offload any potential single points of vulnerability, global whack-a-mole but for labor power to use a bad analogy. I mean it's effectively the optimates of the late Roman empire but with guns and nukes, oh and climate change, more accurately "the common ruin of the contending classes" and this is of course we somehow need to internationalize and get out of this convenient fiction of Westphalian nation-states as being geopolitically relevant.
[ On Ancient Athens]
In the end, more than freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life ,and in the end they lost it all - security, comfort, and freedom.
When the Athenians finally wanted not to give to society , but for society to give to them, when the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility , then Athens ceased to be free and was never free again.
Edward Gibbon.
This is what’s happening around the world.
David Pakman interviewed a Canadian who had that same view two days ago...
“ When fascism comes to America it will ride in carrying a cross and waving the flag “. Upton Sinclair
Christian ultra nationalism really is an oxymoron as the people who hold this position are biblically illiterate. The New Testament as the preeminent source of christian teaching makes abundantly clear with the words of Jesus himself that his Kingdom is not of this world, and if it were his disciples would have fought to prevent his arrest. Christianity is by nature at its founding a stateless religion where its followers by necessity must always be in a minority. Very significantly, there is also no precedent whatsoever in the example or explicit teachings of Christ and the Apostles that compels Christians to pursue temporal power. Paul himself exhorts christians to seek to lead quiet lives and to mind their own business and to focus on tending to their own affairs and those of the disadvantaged around them directly by sharing of their personal possessions and produce. The hybridisation of Christianity has brought nothing but material destruction and destruction of the message of the Teacher that we call Messiah. The abuses of one and a half millennia are in danger of being added to simply because perverted theologians have failed to read and understand the full text of the New Testament in a balanced reading. This lies at the feet of the seminaries and bible colleges ultimately for either promulgating these heresies or failing to effectively douse them before they could take hold.
And the symbols of the American Religion are the fetus and the flag.
Fascism has already come to the US. In the 1930s, with Henry Ford and Lindberg and their America First. In the 1950s with Joseph McCarthy.
@@rolfbattlec7672 Absolutely correct, and it never left. Fascism is ugly, loud, dumb, and unpalatable to the educated and well-adjusted. There's always been plenty of fascists out there, it's just now that they've learned to use the tools given to them to organize. It's no coincidence that the global rise of authoritarianism happened to coincide with the information age, and social media in particular. Aspiring despots, demagogues, and their toadies alike have the tools for propaganda and all the information they need to broadcast it to the world at their fingertips. The selfish myopia of tribal capitalism, distance and anonymity offered by the internet, and general dissolution of Truth just make things that much more appealing to the ignorant and hateful.
@@rolfbattlec7672you are comparing today s tsunami with the short lived 1930s summer rain. The difference in degrees is astounding.
"Is anyone really surprised that Donald Trump is trying to force himself on America after she said NO! ??
Your comment deserves 80 million likes. Taking a screenshot, thank you.
Lol literally and figuratively at same damn time.
Sadly, YES: MAGAts.
Finally, someone calls the rising up fascism by its name - fascism. That's exactly what happens to US now
Jason Stanley’s ‘How Propaganda Works’ took me a year to read, and the ability to see has changed me deeply. Thank you Professor for showing us how to be free people❤️
May i ask why it took a year to read? Is it very complex to understand?
@@mikeguliano3159 Just to clear up any possible confusion here, "How Fascism Works" and "How Propaganda Works" are two different books, both by Prof. Stanley. The fascism book is the more recent and was written with a general audience in mind. It should read fairly easily for many people. The propaganda book approaches its subject matter more from the perspective of a scholarly philosopher, which of course Prof. Stanley is. It didn't take me a year to read, but it is tougher going, and I know I should read it again. It was well worth it the first time, and I know it will be the second time.
He's directing us back to the neat grinder.
At the pace we are going America will be a fascist autocracy in less than a decade. Freedom is about to end.
@@quinndawsonosgood5261 sounds defeatist.
I'm incredibly impressed that this discussion has finally occurred at this level of journalism. Typically this conversation is had on the fringe of journalism. I appreciate Amanpour and Co for engaging.
It's darkly humorous how he talks about "projecting on ones enemies what oneself is actually doing." Both of the major parties are accusing the other of attempting to undermine the voting process in service to the elites, while making false appeals to working people. Neither will admit their part - the "other" is always worse.
It's about fricking HIGH TIME the discussion finally made it to Prime Time...
PROJECTION. THERE'S NO PURITY MORALS!! NO REAL ELECTION.
" ELITIST" OWNED ELECTORAL COLLEGE * GET FINAL WORD & DOMINANCE!! Mass Panics!!! YES!!
Authoritarianism is unfortunately currently present on both sides of the aisle is America. The right is more obvious on their attempts to steal an election and especially with an imbecile like trump for a spokesperson. But the progressive left has just as dangerous tendencies, especially regarding limiting freedoms of speech and expression based on levels of victimhood and societal oppression.
The toxic effect of using the pedigree of Amanpour and Co to lend credibility to party propaganda cant be overstated.
"We have a responsibility. Not to invade other countries and make them democratic...Our responsibility is to represent the push towards democracy."
Loved that! Absolutely yes! Everything this man is saying is SO important.
Yet it is not registering with so many americans. We're about to watch democracy die here. So the question is? Why is this messaging so bad? Clearly it is. This messaging should win over Trumpism, but it is not. So what do we need to do different to help blind followers of Trumpism open their eyes. Insulting them isn't working. IF we don't change the messaging, we will lose.
Interesting, someone replied, but it can't be seen!
Which comments does CZcams Block?
*Some videos you see 15 reply, but when you click on reply, you see five!!!*
*Big Brother is watching..*
Fascist despotic government that is
@@fredschnerbert1238 I see your reply only, but it says3 replies.
@@hyzercreek Happens a lot on youtube, I have no idea what type of "filtering" they use to keep people from seeing other peoples comments, or their goal in doing that...
This guy is spot on, I hope more people see this in America. He was right about the abortion issue, and right about Trump and the male dominated rule makers. My god this guy is a genius.
All that happened with abortion is that it was sent back to the states to decide, how in hell is that dominated by Trump?
As a Canadian, I fear this greatly. The thought of a fascist, authoritarian state to our south is frightening. We would not stand a chance if they decided they want our resources, or wanted to export their "brand" to the north. The same goes for the southern US border. I pray the US electorate see the light before it is too late. Strange how we never learn from history.
As a Canadian myself, if what you stated happens in the US and it becomes facist, in truth and honesty, my family is ready to move to Europe.
You already live in a fa sc ist country. The last 2 years have been a steady slide. How are you resisting?
Don't pray, do something.
Not to be the doomsayer, but the American electorate couldn't see the light even if they had their eyelids removed. I'm sitting right in the middle of this ultimate combination of stupidity and military weaponry, and everyone should be very worried.
I think they only want tar sands and the like that they can make money off of. Also, to use Canada as a demon for socialized medicine.
I read his piece in the Guardian and it is good to hear Jason Stanley talk. His warning should be taken *very* seriously. From a worried European.
I'm Canadian.
I'm worried, too.
And I am even more scared that people here talk the same way.
Lots of people copy america..
American. Not only worried, but quite freaked out. Though I will say, as I have been paying attention, not surprised. But there still is hope if our people wake up!
@@stoodmuffinpersonal3144 Must be quite scary to be in a neighboring country. Images of the Anschluss come to mind. I get the impression that Canada is politically more stable than the U.S., but history shows that political forces can be quite unpredictable. Let's hope that the world gets soon over this fascism fad.
@@e-spy Politics in the U.S. tends to have significant ramifications in the rest of the world, so I fear if it goes fascistic there, many countries may follow. I wish my American friends all the strength to fight the erosion of democracy in their country.
I'm Dutch and was born one week after the German Army in my country capitulated to the 1st Canadian Army. I lived 10km from the German boundary and did see a lot of German TV, including their excellent documentary about the Nazis from 1918 to 1945. The cause for the election victory of Hitler's NSDAP was:
- the support from the German Industrialists (oligarchs) of Krupp; IG Farben and many others;
- an impoverished and desperate population;
- a charismatic ruthless leader receiving a cult like adoration;
- the believe in superiority of the Germanic White Race;
- the SA Militia (SturmAbteilung) on the streets beating up socialists and members of "inferior" races, e.g The Jews, Gypsies or Slavs (Poles; Russians; etc).
I see the same situation in the USA, only the names changed and the "inferior" races are adapted to the US location. Remember the first coup of Adolf Hitler failed, but his second after the Reichstag Fire has been successful, because Hitler and the NSDAP were better prepared. Führer Trump and the Republican Nazi Party are currently preparing for their second coup. The US Justice Department seems deep asleep, if true the USA is doomed.
Well done. History repeats if you let it...
Exactly right, our laws and courts seem unable to constrain this single person who flaunts laws without consequences. The mass media normalizes him by treating him as just another candidate and giving him airtime.
Did you also know that it was the Jews that called for boycott of the Germany product during their economic depression?
Ignorance and lack of education runs deep in the Republican cult. They have no idea what they are asking for when they say they want a Dictatorship
Ivanna Trump, his first wife, said Trump kept a book of Hitler's speeches by his bedside. I find this telling not only because he kept it by his bedside, but because he had it at all. Trump is renown for not reading much of anything.
Such an important message, God help us all if that mad man gets anywhere near the whitehouse again
I've been trying to sound this alarm for years. It's really astounding to me to see just how many people fall victim to their brainwashing.
70% of Republicans believe Joe Biden wasn't fairly elected (but that's just 10-12% of all American residents). Someone said it was like being in NYC or Massachusetts and believing George McGovern was going to win in 1972 because everyone around you voted for him. But it's also because of 26 years of Republicans seeking alternate media starting with Limbaugh & Fox and spreading to Facebook and other social media.
Socialism is systematically demonized for the benefit of the rich oligarchy.
Suffering people are easy to brainwash. 50 years of trickle down policies have brought us to this. Get out now if you can.
I have tried to awaken people to what is happening but to no avail I have been told I am nuts lost friends over this and I feel like a failure
@@eileencalabrese5618 Part of the problem is most people here don't know anything about anything, and are often mired in information silos that feed them their two minutes' hate over and over
Since '80: rugged individualism for the poor& socialism for the rich
Before the 80's honestly, but Regan and his cronies sure made it look pretty to the whole population... smh.
I LOVE rugged individualism. And I don't consider myself "poor" 😊
@@monacoofthebluepacific2571 did you enjoy bailing out the banks, trillion$?
Did you enjoy the last 20 years of war? About $1 trillion a year?
Poor is NOT only about money, it's about character, judgement, values...... 🙄
@@monacoofthebluepacific2571 unless you are independent ly wealthy, Viz, material assets & no debt & enough paper to last the rest of your days, you're poor. Wealthy people Don't talk about how much they got. If you've drank the Kool aid, good for you. A perfect life is amnesia & total denial. DISCLAIMER: I am no last word freak but came of age before alternative facts!
@@monacoofthebluepacific2571 great input.
Now go live your rugged individualistic life drinking pumpkin spiced lattes, and stuffing your hole at Applebees, Monica.
Domestic Violence in the home uses the same playbook as fascism outside the home. Projection and Gaslighting etc.
solid observation Micro and macro
Yes there is litigation abuse used in domestic violence situations also there is a video about that on you tube also. In America both sides are accusing the other of weaponizing the justice system and lying though and both sides are wealthy most Democratic Presidents were lawyers too Clinton Obama Biden they could very well also be manipulative. The SCOTUS has biases also look how Trump bragged about ending abortion rights he wasn't even in office at that time and he's not even a judge either.
It's all narcissists trying to control others because they need power and benefits from being in power
And guess which party voted against protecting victims of domestic violence? Trump's MAGA/"Republicans"
Stanley: "If you keep the politics of fear and panic alive, people will set aside democracy....they are not going to be able to think reasonably and rationally."
The two party system is broken. We need to be free of this binary choice and open up the elections to whoever is best qualified, not just the ones the GOP and Dems recommend.
YOUR WRONG.WHAT YOU WANT IS LIKE ITALY 80 GOVERNMENTS IN 80 YEARS.
@@dodge-ut6ti Do you know that among those 60-80 democracies, which work, this is the norm. USA is proberly the only democracy in the entire world who only "allows" 2 parties.
@@Morlock1943 Remember the NAZI used that fractured style of government to take power. P S The last time iI saw a ballot for President there must have been 15 candidates on it.
Thomas Jefferson had concerns a two party system would be bad for the country. He was right imo. If you open it up though it becomes more free and real freedom is not what the super rich want. Now they control everything, and are afraid they 'll lose their money if the system opens up. It's easy for them to control just 2 parties.
@@garlandalmarode6396 In Denmark we have a party which main concern is the poor people (how can they help that group in society) which the middleclass and the rich do not really care about. The politicians in Washington have lost any connection with any of the problems normal americans have.
I've always said that "Divide and Conquer" is the greatest stratagem that the wealthy and powerful of the world have used against the working class. Keep different peoples at each others throats in order to take advantage of them all. Use words like "Communism" and "Socialism" to discourage people from coming together and realizing how much they have in common; discovering that the real Us versus Them is Wealthy versus Not-wealthy.
They also misrepresent socalist ideology. Since the ussr was more like state capitalism and most actual socalist countries get overthrown with government aid.
Which is silly, because even in this case, the wealthy would be better off if more people could participate in the economy. They only hurt themselves, by keeping the poor poor.
Last year (oops 2020) when corporations were supporting BLM in they way they did (after their pandering to identity politics for a few years at that point) I knew that this was the direction we were headed; divide and conquer. Enhance our feelings of being different from one another. I think basically everyone who isn't rich/elite have a lot of common cause with one another but these media campaigns are trying desperately to stop people from seeing that. They get people to focus on the minutae of the very broad set of problems, and very carefully draw any attention away from the bigger picture. Unfortunately, aside from a few places trying to fight against that, it seems to be working...
@@seandavies5130 so you're playing identity politics to counter the identity politics you're claiming both sides do 🙄 with no evidence but your hypocrisy 🤔
Weak arguments full of fallacies, where did you hear them? Am radio or tukkky carlson?
@@randominternetuser2888 I was simply making an observation, not an argument. I'm not sure how I was playing identity politics? Pretty sure my point was that we should be looking for common cause across many "identity" groups. Instead of assuming we all fit some cookie cutter mould of some pre-designated identities. Just like how you assumed that I have any interest in getting propagandised by Tucker Carlson and whatever that other one was. If you disagree with that then like myself you have your own opinion, more power to you
It’s been happening right infront of our faces , not behind closed doors
If a former US president is found guilty of commiting treason and inciting an insurrection against the USA during his term in office, what gives him the right to keep his Secret Service detail for the rest of his natural life???!
What's makes you so sure that a certain former US President will be tried, let alone convicted of treason?
And anyways, all of his Nazi-Republican co-conspirators even now STILL remain in office, when they should be facing those same charges.
No Hitler succeeds without his Nazi brownshirts and Republicans are Trump's. The abject failure of the rest of us to understand this basic fact and act accordingly is why the country is soon to die at their hands as a democratic republic under rule of law.
If you are willing to sell out your freedom for security, you won't have security or freedom 😢
The difference here we are heavily armed and middle class and poor are armed just like the police and it might turn out that rich won't come out on top even shut down the economy and it will really hurt the fich😂
Or to run again!
The list of "glitches" in the American democracy experiment grows longer each week. If we survive the current fascist assault, we would be wise to launch a focused modification, re-imagining, and revision of our governing documents and systems.
I say this to my Canadian friends when they tell me that U.S. politics has nothing to do with us.
and I agree with you until they make their problems our problems or the world's problems, that's the difference. so when do we say something?
How trusting.
Canadian here. Been watching this unfold ever since Trump was elected. When America goes fascist, the possibility of conflicts around the world will increase enormously.
@@robertblue3795 is it amazing to you that Americans (left and Indy's) are silent. No where to be found/seen?
I'm an anti war demonstrator, they sat on the couch for 20 years!!! Spending trillions, killing 1 million innocent Iraqis, thousands of dead Americans, 2 million displaced Iraqis...... Never mind Afghanistan!!!
Osama was OUR CIA operative!!!
Wtf will it take??
Marinemomof3 ♥️🇺🇲
@@dawnoceanside7300 sadly, the real fight for freedom and justice may be ahead and many Americans will need to join and look to people like you for courage and inspiration.
This man has studied this subject
His entire life...he can see it all happening
A G A I N.
It sure appears the Marxist communist bankers are taking a hold and sucking the blood of lady liberty
And under the Biden administration, it certainly IS happening.
👊🔥✌💫
This man has created his own mythology of fascism and believes if he says his jumbled up truths, half truths and lies at a fast enough pace that he has won the argument, this is a technique of debate, and in fact he says the same thing every video at the same pace. His actual content and conclusions are incorrect at best and lies most of the time.
@@daleharper5361 please elaborate on your claims and back them up with information and proof from reliable sources. What is he lying about exactly?
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross" - Sinclair Lewis
Stanley describes his Jewish background as informing his writing on fascism: "To me, my Judaism means an obligation to pay attention to equality and the rights of minority groups."
We're divided over issues of race when we SHOULD be united over issues of class.
True
listen to morning joe this morning he sounds like bernie sanders ...
@cherryhoneyricola Of course you are absolutely right, and I appreciate you for articulating it that way.
@cherryhoneyricola Yes. Too, is the key word here.
Right now we are divided over medical status more then race.
Jason Stanley is absolutely correct. He speaks with wisdom, truth, and prophecy. I pray that his message gets out to the world.
The people who need to hear/see this never will. Too busy watching Fox.
Dem constituents won't DO anything. Voting every 2 or 4 years is NOT ENOUGH!
6 out of 8 years in the Obama administration, they say on the COUCH!
5 years of tRumpf, MIA
1 year after domestic terrorist attack, nada
Shameful. 🤬
The irony is that he's speaking about both parties at this juncture. Stanley is so blinded by his prejudices that he fails to see it.
@@deanjohnson6074 There is only one side that wants to subvert democracy and bring in autocracy - the side who foolishly believed Trump's Big Lie and tried to make him king.
Democracies are not able to defend themselves, they are based on shared values and ideas. Any mechanism the government might use to shut down Trumpist fascism is off limits, fundamentally anti-democratic. The struggle is asymmetrical: the good guys are constrained by the rules of the system they are trying to preserve, while the Trumpers can stoke fear, spread lies and encourage violence, all under the shield of freedoms guaranteed by the constitution. The constitution they will do away with. The Democrats cannot say, for example, that Trump, as a traitor to the constitution and his oath, should be barred from running in 2024. To try to bar any candidate from running smacks of authoritarianism, the very thing the Democrats are fighting against. This is the predicament we face.
We MUST call out anti-social behavior from afar. Sociopathic , psychopathic and narcissist behaviors have no business being in power. But as long as we, those with the capacity for empathy , don't understand how important it is for civilization to continue , we are doomed to a repeat of WW2-like atrocities.
Almost all those in any position of power are narcissists. Narcissists crave power over others and will do whatever it takes to have it.
What he said about 17 year olds with guns -- less than 6 months later two 18 year olds went out and committed mass shootings. One very definitely racially motivated. One lashing out not at the peers who bullied him, but cowardly attacking innocent helpless children. And the NRA keeps helping to build fascism.
When I used the term "Fascist Oligarchy" back in 2015, warning people that we were headed down that road, people called me an alarmist. Now, we're well down that road.
Self destruct has been programmed into humanity. Our tech insures we all perish.
Yeah the economy is dead. The elites have stolen everything.
The leftists are the most fascist of all.
@@alanhowitzer Fascism is a right wing ideology. Read a history book and stop being stupid.
@@DescartesStrollsIntoAPub Fascism is not left or right. Fascism is the merger of corporate and government power.
Perfect analysis. The same is happening in the UK and the right here looks to the USA to see just how far they can go. We will follow you down the drain. I keep trying to tell people that the world we live in and the hard-fough-for things we hold dear are not written in stone. They could all be taken away before our eyes in a heartbeat. Germany went from a fully functioning and lauded democracy to a dictatorship in a decade without social media.
Thanks for weighing in.
the Change in Germany in the 30´s was in less than 5 years.
First massive right wing agitation during an recession, the extremists get into power and BAM, democracy is gone
Don't forget Venezuela...
Exactly! Sadly, his last line is pathetic: “Every Republican needs to disassociate themselves from this political violence. “ Yeah, right! As if that is going to happen! By the wAy, Merrick Garland is a Republican.
It doesn't take a degree from an elite school to fool most. The problem is in priorities set in childhood - intentionally or by mere example by parents and schools. When there are fewer reasonable voices (a silent reasonable person doesn't count) , it becomes easier for the crooked powermongers to suppress them. If these crooks, Cruz, Hawley etc., had to work a real job that requires them to use their time and brains, they wouldn't afford to sit pretty fooling masses with pure lies and contradicting statements every other day. There should be a system in place evaluating elected officials starting from their campaign, with no concessions made for lies of any kind.
Spot on. Church & State is a nightmare. Tax evaders in Capitalist countries is a dead end.
Amazingly brilliant conversation Michelle. I resonate with this professor and am looking for his book now!
" ' Fascist ' is just the name of our party. We are really Corporatists. " -Benito Mussolini, Fascist dictator, Italy, 1925-45
Brilliant comment thanks,
He didn’t write or say that but he did write something similar. And much more precise.
The Corporate State and its Organization (p. 133)
The corporate State considers that private enterprise in the sphere of production is the most effective and useful instrument in the interest of the nation. In view of the fact that private organisation of production is a function of national concern, the organiser of the enterprise is responsible to the State for the direction given to production.
State intervention in economic production arises only when private initiative is lacking or insufficient, or when the political interests of the State are involved. This intervention may take the form of control, assistance or direct management.
The USA does have some version of this, but not exactly. There is no presidential dictators that leads the state, there are presidential puppets who mouth propaganda on behalf of corporations.
There is a very important reason to make this distinction. And a good reason not to call Trump a fascist. Because it let‘s neoliberalism off the hook entirely. They can simply blame each successive puppet that they put into power.
Meanwhile isn’t it striking that Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden all have similar policies on the most contentious issues?
Take for example arms sales to Saudia Arabia. All four mentioned did it. Ironically when Obama did it Hillary Clinton was trashed for it as SOS, only for Trump to make an even big arms sale, but the legislation authorized the sale as well. Why? Because it serves multiple corporate interests. This is one example but there is a long list of others.
@@matthewkopp2391 As Chris Hedges likes to remind us Sheldon Wolin coined "inverted totalitariansim" to describe the current arrangement. It's the natural fruition of a few decades of neoliberalism. It's the same partnership of corporate and state power to subordinate the people but, with the state having been shrunk and weakened, it is led by corporate power with the state largely kept on for its monopoly on violence. In any case I'm not watching this guy again. Clicked before I recalled. I watched the last one and he was completely missing the point. If I recall correctly he seemed to think it was about Trumpism or that the US has not already become a one-party/two faction state.
@@theosphilusthistler712 Any thoughts on fixing the problem?
So you are one of few that understands that the definition of fascism is the alignment of industry and government. Sound familiar? Big Pharma, big agriculture, big banks , big automakers big financial companies, big military and military industries, all not only too big to fail but too big to audit or jail for their corrupt activities. (2008 financial crisis). Corporate welfare , the public support of bailing out crooks is institutionalized. Public paid research is passed to these private entities for their profit.
The usa does not need a Mussolini type fascist leader of state . It has laws like Citizens United and politicians such as Mitt Romney ( just one example) who claim corporations are people and money is political voice.
It was Once said " the Nazis lost ww2 the fascists won.
As a European, I am worried about democracy, specially after Trump's endorsement of Viktor Orban.
We should all be worried.
That’s his idol. He is copying his playbook to the letter.
@@cb4664 no. He is copying Hitler's. He keeps the Hitler "bible" at his bedside.
yes, if US democracy falls, no country will be safe. Most of us true Americans are aware. We are very worried about the rest of the world as well as our own country. We are still reeling at the damage four years of Trump has done! Even so, American Democracy is on oxygen, and we may need some help here.
Maybe you shouldn’t rely on something so feeble as democracy is?
Time to educate the populace and have Jason Stanley back on the air across all media sources.
Excellent interview 👍
Thank you Pr. Stanley.
Glaring omission in this discussion: the main driver of authoritarianism is the fact that the ultra-rich and giant multinational corporations own both political parties
Yes, it is a mediocre analysis.
@@matthewkopp2391 There is a lot of this sort of hand wringing from the main stream liberal establishment. The core political crisis is plutocracy and oligarchy. Sanctimonious speeches by corporatist Democratic politicians during both impeachments and during the Jan 6 insurrection hearings ring hollow to half of the country.
I supported Sanders and I'm pro-Queer, pro-feminist, pro-immigrant, pro-Green New Deal, pro-tax the rich, pro-secular, and my family is multiracial. I'm certainly not pro-Trump. But both parties are addicted to militarism and corporate money.
@@tomover9905 As far as militarism Donald Trump at least played as if he was anti-military interventionism while Clinton strangely bragged about it. To what extent Trump truly was is anyone‘s guess.
But if one took him at his word it reveals to what extent both the CIA and Pentagon and are beyond the control of the President even though they legally are under the president.
And if you don’t believe him, if he played a total charade, it shows to what extent any President will lie to preserve the military status quo.
So based on this issue alone a reasonable person can conclude that the Presidency is a sham at this point. We don‘t elect Presidents we elect propaganda ministers.
As far as corporatism, that is obvious to anyone paying attention.
So the analysis is about fascism. Based on the historical definition of Mussolini‘s government we don‘t have fascism which is a central tyrant collaborating with corporations. We have corporations with puppet presidents.
So the liberal hand wringing is about an illusion shattering. We have a Republic with all three branches of government manipulated by corporations.
But the worst manipulation is that of dividing the citizenry. citizens of both parties and independents don’t feel the government is representing their interests and the media is instructing people to hate each other.
The January 6 event whether manipulated by Trump or not is about the right not believing we have a legitimate government.
And that is sadly where we really are.
It is truly strange that some people like de Blasio allowed the statue of Jefferson to be taken down. Not that we ought to worship an imperfect man, but what Jefferson actually said is a complete threat to corporatism, plutocracy, oligarchy, and the current military. He wanted „freedom from monopolies“ written into the Bill of Rights. Heaven forbid there is historical figure that could unite both left and right in many of his actual ideas.
So I can pretend, and caste a vote for Bernie Sanders, but my real feeling is we are living in an illusion.
True. Why don't they give out Oscars for these performances. They are so moving that I am yawning out of control. Maybe they are worried that there will be THE knock at their door. Maybe someday soon is becoming a reality. I am 72 but won't live long enough to see it . Sadly. I could use a good laugh 😂 before I go out.
@@tomover9905 said: "The core political crisis is plutocracy and oligarchy." PLUS the fact that those very same sociopathic "leaders" have already captured our traditional democratic institutions of change. Elections are thoroughly manipulated with big-money propaganda advertising, members of congress now represent the donor class not the electorate, the Supreme Court (and many other judges) have been politically appointed, and the mass media is controlled by corporate billionaires. Lately the tech companies have gotten into the act by suppressing "unfavorable" information.
The only power "we the people" have left is the power of superior numbers, gathered in the streets demanding a government devoid of big-money oligarchic influence. So we ask: what can be done? Sustained mass demonstrations of non-violent civil disobedience. It's our only viable option for success. (And by the way, there's a time limit. Climate change will not wait the "several decades" it would take to correct a severe setback in democracy).
Down with fascism, power to ALL the people.
As a modern German with nothing more than high school history classes background I have followed the devolution of the US political scene over the last two decades. Since 2016 I have followed the step by step progression of Trumpists along the Nazi's playbook. I am still waiting for the sudden conflagration of the Senate building enabling the extremists to rule by edict. Everything else has already occured. Maybe not in the exact fashion as in the Weimar Republic but similar enough. People who are wealthy still believe they control the politics until the day they find themselves on the recieving end of their politics. Just like the industrialists in Nazi Germany who believed they could control Hitler. Until they couldn't even if they had wanted to.
Finally, someone has clearly explained the root causes of the deconstruction we see in America today.
It’s been happening for over 50 years now. We’ve ignored the problem far too long and I fear if we continue to sit in silence and let these fascists continue to get elected into office the process will be furthered and we’ll no longer be able to stop it
Vote blue everywhere you can until Democracy is again on solid ground!!!!!
Exactly
"Always say about your opponents, what you are doing". Projecting at it's best.
Meh. This is such a tired but cherished Left zinger form that really only convinces ourselves. Likewise we attach "-phobe" to every Rightist bias. Assertion of projection is so kneejerk at this point that I suspect it's more a sap on our energy to fight than Truth awakening.
@@hd-xc2lz With respect, I am unclear as to whether you would prefer some neologism that would be identical in definition, or if you reject the assertion that projection is, indeed, hard at work.
Cheers
@@kesart8378 It's a matter of usage frequency. Do you think of it as more than an "you're dumb" insult? Seems it has zero truck with the wingnuts that are its target, and it mostly just flatters us with its veneer of psych insight. We need new frames for the Right, as with QAnon it is clear that there's a religiosity to the present Right mindset that renders projection utterly beside the point.
I thought this was going to be an intelligent and honest discussion. I was wrong. This is part of the Jan 6th campaign to accuse the other side of what you are doing. With all that is happening with the pandemic mandates, the broadening of the surveillance state, and the realization that our country is now a corporation with residency status, they are focused on Trump. We all know why that is. Because they are living on the plantation of the billionaires and serving those people with the resources. Period.
@@missykins3193 I'm unclear what you mean by "January 6th campaign to accuse the other side of what you are doing." What else was Jan. 6 but a violent RW mob attack on a government building fueled by conspiracy mongering? In the eye of the law, that's all it was, and the participants are being held accountable. End of story.
And to me that (the law when well applied) is the only perspective and social action that can provide us common ground today, and yet both Right and Left seem increasingly happier to instead judge and punish strictly online through trolling, conspiracy mongering, cancelling, and threats.
Sincere apology if I've misinterpreted your remark.
Absolutely, we are in a crucially pivotal time in American history.
Is there any reason to believe our government and judicial system will have people willing to step in and prevent us from becoming a fascist state? I don’t have much hope at this point. It’s a system built to consolidate wealth and power, not support the majority of people.
We need to get Professor Stanley on every MSM outlet ASAP
His wisdom must be heard
Get him on Fake Fox media in place of Tucker the Fascist Carlson
That’s the problem-the corporations that run our main media outlets LIKE DIVISION because it’s very profitable. Imagine our country if media was more like this?? We have propaganda machines on BOTH sides.
@@birdgirl1516 The Republican propaganda machine is lies, upon lies, upon lies, that's all based now on one big lie. So Houston we have a problem. Say what you may about the Democrats propaganda machine. One is like night and one is like day. In other words the Republicans have gone to the dark side of propaganda.
@@birdgirl1516 really? Show us any examples of both sides?
I would say the division you feel is your conscience telling you one thing but you decided something else.
When the news reports evidence and you think it looks bad on purpose, that's not the news telling you what to think... that's your conscience.
He's been on all of them and more if you count major social media pages/channels. The problem is the political left can't come to terms with reality.....same with anthropogenic global warming. So America will be a fascist autocracy in less than a decade as a result.
Finally. The truth. Simply explained. I wish everyone with common sense could/would watch this. I am a Canadian and I feel the Americans and others are determined to destroy democracy. I get so upset when I think about abortion rules going backwards, police power rising, poor people being subjugated to worse conditions through poor education and health care. Going backwards, our poor children.
rise up and do something
@@JC-vz9vn I've been saying on voter-suppression/voter-ID videos that foreigners "don't have a dog in our fight" over voter ID, when they say they can't believe some states don't check photo-ID to vote. Of course many of them are lying Republicans winning the argument. But I'm still curious how the fall of American democracy could affect other countries.
@@JC-vz9vn did you READ Kim’s post? She is Canadian! It’s not her responsibility to Rise! It’s OUR Responsibility, but judging from your reading ability… we’re kinda’ Fu#ked!
American citizens have nothing to do with the process of changing that or anything else. Its not like the people voted to overturn that. The state representative did that. For whatever political reason. I think we are being conditioned and humiliated so we are malleable and easy to manipulate and control. The American people have very very little power all we can do is vote for the president that's about it. And that's probably fixed now too. Btw I don't think Canida is doing great either with that Trudeau in office.
Not final, not "the truth". "The Americans and others" not determined to destroy democracy. And what's your evidence about " police power rising?"
I went to look at a lawn sweeper that I found on Craigslist. The gentleman and his friend were commenting on the Trump story of the day. I couldn't control my mouth and had to stick up for America and corrected their ignorance. I believe I was fortunate to have left there alive. These people have been filled with everything the author was talking about in this interview. The future is uncertain.
I recenty finished listening to Rachael Maddow's podcast ULTRA. It covered the fascist movement in the years leading up to the 1940's in America. We had 23 senators who were openly working with an agent of Hitler. Sadly this isn't new, much of what occured then mirrors current events. I highly recommend a listen, it's compelling, and it's.... terrifying.
100% right. This is a very scary time for our people and for our Democracy.
Steven persamanos……I agree. We have a dementia patient in the White House who has no idea what is going on. And he says he wants to run again. God help us.
@timothycollins1968 not a sore loser at all😂
This is very disturbing and I just feel like this man has it figured out. I couldn’t have imagined the America of today 10 years ago. I’m actually very worried about where we’re headed. The writing is on the wall.
After the patriot passed after 9/11 and the false media lies that created public support to the iraq war.
Im not surprised.
Its what chomsky in manufacturing consent and etc, always talked about.
The collapse and death spiral will only accelerate from here on out.
Luckily I have dual citizenship and speak another european language fluently. 😅
The time to get out is before 2024.
The writing on the wall has been there since Reagan. It's just that people are actually listening now.
Brexit was a sign that Trump might win in 2016, but it wasn't heeded by the Clinton campaign, and that's not including Cambridge Analytica and Russian propaganda. (Watch 2019's _Brexit: The Uncivil War)_ Every time Hillary heard 70%-80% chance of winning she became complacent and ignored the idea that some who weren't for Trump, wouldn't vote for her if they thought she would win anyway.
I feel like this is true but for opposite reasons. The vaccine mandates and the mask mandates all seem like fascism to me. And the fact that the MSM has not been questioning the federal government until recently is also terrifying. What happened to speaking truth to power instead of fawning over Fauci?
@@sandrad9695 Your right to swing your fist ends when it strikes my face. Your right to release sputum in public ends when it's likely to contain a pathogen that can kill others.
Who’s watching this after the Supreme Court’s overturn of Roe vs. Wade thinking this video was prophetic?
@Nope I’m not sorry : What your a me ric an SC OT US did was a n ti-fa scis t lmao.
I'm looking forward to getting How Fascism Works in the mail. It takes an intellectually honest person to say, "I'm better at analysis than solutions, unfortunately." I smiled at that. And yet,his response sounded brilliant to me. But also scary.
As a scholar of fascism I can vouch for the excellence of Jason's book. Great interview to bring the analysis up to date.
As a fake scholar of fascism, I can vouch for the excellence of Jason's book. FIFY
it is, and Tim Snyder on Tyranny.
Neither of you know anything about fascism tho, it's an extremely specific idea.
Nearly every major Fascist was a former Marxist, Giovanni Gentile, Benito Mussolini, Edmondo Rossoni, Sergio Panunzio, A. O. Olivetti, Alfredo Rocco, Michele Bianchi, Alceste De Ambris, Mario Palmeri, Paolo Orano, Massimo Rocca, Guido Pighetti etc. Fascism as described by the philosophical founder Giovanni Gentile, "Fascism as a consequence of its Marxian and Sorelian patrimony conjoined with the influence of contemporary Italian idealism, through which Fascist thought attained maturity, conceives philosophy as praxis."
The Fascist party was the second largest party in Italy behind the syndicalists of Edmondo Rossoni which had 3 times as many members. 75% of of industry and agriculture were brought under public control and the founder of the communist party Nicola Bombacci was appointed economics minister.
Mussolini quotes, many after he became a fascist........
"Marx was the greatest of all theorists of socialism."
"Socialism has to remain a terrifying and a majestic thing. If we follow this line, we shall be able to face our enemies."
"The law of socialism is that of the desert: a tooth for a tooth, an eye for an eye. Socialism is a rude and bitter truth, which was born in the conflict of opposing forces and in violence. Socialism is war, and woe to those who are cowardly in war. They will be defeated."
"The root of our psychological weakness was this: We socialists have never examined the problems of nations. The International was never concerned with it. The International is dead, paralyzed by events. Ten million proletarians are today on the battlefield."
"You cannot get rid of me because I am and always will be a socialist. You hate me because you still love me."
"Do not believe, even for a moment, that by stripping me of my membership card you do the same to my Socialist beliefs, nor that you would restrain me of continuing to work in favor of Socialism and of the Revolution"
"Lenin is an artist who has worked men, as other artists have worked marble or metals. But men are harder than stone and less malleable than iron. There is no masterpiece. The artist has failed. The task was superior to his capacities."
"I know the Communists. I know them because some of them are my children"
"I shall defend this pact with all my strength, and if Fascism does not follow me in collaboration with the Socialists, at least no one can force me to follow Fascism."
"Standing by me and helping my work as newspaper man were the Fascisti. They were composed of revolutionary spirits who believed in intervention. They were youths-the students of the universities, the socialist syndicalists-destroying faith in Karl Marx by their ideals."
"It was inevitable that I should become a Socialist ultra, a Blanquist, indeed a communist. I carried about a medallion with Marx’s head on it in my pocket. I think I regarded it as a sort of talisman. Marx had a profound critical intelligence and was in some sense even a prophet."
"I never felt that there was any conflict between my military duties and my Socialism. Why should not a good soldier be also a fighter in the class war?"
"Italy is not a capitalist country according to the meaning now conventionally assigned to that term."
"Three-fourths of the Italian economy, industrial and agricultural, is in the hands of the state. And if I dare to introduce to Italy state capitalism or state socialism, which is the reverse side of the medal, I will have the necessary subjective and objective conditions to do it."
"It is no longer an economy aiming at individual profit, but economy concerned with collective interest."
"When the war is over, in the world's social revolution that will be followed by a more equitable distribution of the earth's riches, due account must be kept of the sacrifices and of the discipline maintained by the Italian workers. The Fascist revolution will make another decisive step to shorten social distances."
"Some still ask of us: what do you want? We answer with three words that summon up our entire program. Here they are…Italy, Republic, Socialization. . .Socialization is no other than the implantation of Italian Socialism"
"For this I have been and am a socialist. The accusation of inconsistency has no foundation. My conduct has always been straight in the sense of looking at the substance of things and not to the form. I adapted socialisticamente to reality. As the evolution of society belied many of the prophecies of Marx, the true socialism folded from possible to probable. The only feasible socialism socialisticamente is corporatism, confluence, balance and justice interests compared to the collective interest."
"I owe most to Georges Sorel. This master of syndicalism by his rough theories of revolutionary tactics has contributed most to form the discipline, energy and power of the fascist cohorts."
@@nstix2009xitsn you mean you're a fascist?
Yeah, that's some riveting fiction.
Prof. Stanley’s blunt, honest, & straight forward comments are right on. Unfortunately America hasn’t woken up to the fact of the seriousness. The wake-up call often comes too late
They need to wake up to how they did the American Indians and the Africans. They somehow interpret it as their Heritage, a path to their Manifest Destiny.
That's so true. I don't know why anyone would want to live under facism. Racism is also fear & ignorance. That's what I want to know. What do those Qanon believers get out of supporting facism? They don't know what oppression is.
@@rubyking8473 Agreed
He's a buffoon
Completely agree, the name of the game is power and money.
Regarding the oligarchs using race to divide and conquer, this is already a known policy. Read "How the South Won the Civil War" by Dr. Heather Cox Richardson. She outlines how this all began during the Civil War era and has persisted to this day, though substantially tamped down during the 1940's and 50's, but re-surging massively since the 1980's.
“ every Republican politician needs to disassociate themselves from the
mass attempt to create and stoke eventual political violence.”
Thank you, Mr. Stanley. Godspeed!
Every democrat must do that as well.
@@fairandbalanced4666 They have, mate; you just haven't been paying attention.
@@kesart8378 They never did that in the summer of 2020. Nancy Pelosi said: "I just don't know why there aren't uprisings all over the country. Maybe there will be".
@@fairandbalanced4666
The consistent attempt on the parts Of the so-called right (which is now really a cover for Nazism and neo-fascism) to equate the 2020 so-called uprisings (which was really a fight for not only civil rights but human rights) with what you all did on January 6th, 2021, and have a historical narrative of doing all throughout not just the United States of America, but the world. You spread your worldviews and political philosophies at the tip of the sword-you have done that since the invention of Weaponry used to take the lives of men and women, children and babies.
This is your philosophy. You reap the natural backlash from a group of people who are sick and tired of having the boot of fascist, of racist, of Nazis, of bigots (all in positions of power) on their neck and they lash out at it and because you see the backlash, you go ahead and use that as justification for everything that you wanted to do, have done and will do in the future.
You're no big deal man. You guys were a blip in history in the 1930s and 40s and you will be eviscerated now. It doesn't matter how many weapons of war you have or how advanced you are in savagery (and the idea and concepts of Taking Lives) you're not going to win. Yes, you will prevail in the beginning because there are a lot of people that are not taking you all seriously.
But the fact of the matter is that’s not how Wars are won. Wars are won through long-term planning and you guys aren't thinking this completely through, the only thing you're thinking about is the immediacy of your evil and the fact that you currently have the demographics on your side. The demographic numbers to do a lot of the vicious and heinous s*** that you always wanted to do, but once people honestly can get on the same accord and realize that you guys are serious? Everyone who is not you will get involved in stopping you and you're going to get f****** creamed…believe that. It won't just be Americans, you'l bring the world into this and against you and hopefully we can rid the world (finally) of you vulturistic, greedy and myopic subset of white people, capitalists, corporatists, and sychophants that disgrace your race by being the loudest voices that shame the rest of you.
Rotsa Ruk!
"Projection is a standard propaganda tool" in how fascism works. No coincidence then that the current frontrunner for the Republican nomination for President in 2024 is one of the worst "projectors" we've seen in our lifetime in politics.
DeSatanis' campaign manager is LITERALLY A NEO NAZI. Source, Amanpour CZcams Channel interview with Rick Wilson of the Lincoln Project.
The irony is that you can't see that the Democrats have been protecting on to him for 6 years and own the media/propaganda or should I say the wealthy that own the Democrats own pretty much all of the media. You're a fine example of how well it works.
I recognize from a young age that what the professor says is accurate not simply for this generation but for all generations. I grew up with Clods of Southern Earth by Don West . American democracy is fragile and yet sacred.
A meaningful commentary on threats to Democracy must address all such threats, regardless of what part of the political spectrum they arise from.
What's horrifying about this interview is that Jason Stanley's right. Gawd help us all.
It sounds like we're doomed. :-(
Thank the GOP and the right who’s been setting this up for years. And also thank the spineless, naive Democrats who didn’t do anything to strengthen our laws when they had a chance before.
This Jason Stanley guy raises good points. However unfortunately he has his poles (parties) reversed. It’s the authoritarianism of the far left that threatens democracy, not the Republican Party.
@@youngalwyn1124 i don’t know what planet you’re living in
@@youngalwyn1124 hey champ, good example of the projection that the guy was talking about. Grow up and read a fucking book 😁
“One person one vote” can be abused as McConnell has shown by his actions with gerrymandering etc. What is needed is equal representation per vote.
Dems gerrymander too.
Not the same as what the Teflon Donald and his presidential mafia are continuing to do.
and the abolition of the electoral college, please.
That's what it means imo. With the electoral college and gerrymandering, some votes are worth more than others.
Well, that would help a bit, sure
I have been saying this for YEARS!
Brilliant analysis! Jason Stanley gets the threat to what’s left of democracy right.
This was an amazing interview. His analysis was sharp and cogent, and his warnings about militias and ‘justified’ political violence (‘legitimate political discourse’) are spot on.
"... one person one vote." We don't have one person one vote, by design, when voting for President. We have one person one vote if you vote in California, but one person THREE votes if you're in Wyoming. The Electoral College is 1) a vestige of the Founders' conviction that ordinary citizens could not be trusted with selecting the President, and 2) the result of their capitulation to small states (e.g. South Carolina) to have outsized influence in choosing the President in exchange for joining the union. In addition, gerrymandering ensures that the votes of majorities are diluted ensuring overrepresentation of minorities in the House of Representatives. Then there's the Senate, where a coalition of Senators from small conservative states forms the majority of votes and frustrates the will of the majority of voters. We have a broken system because it's broken by design.
How to change it?
@@jodydavison33 Abolish the Electoral College....for starters.
Sad truth.😞
12 Points to Reform US Democracy and the Electoral System.
1) Get rid of First Past the Post (FPP) (sometimes called plurality) voting, and introduce some form of Proportional Representation (PR) Rank Choice Voting (RCV) preferably - Mixed Member Proportional Representation (MMP(R) with Multi-Member Districts. MMP has voters select both a candidate in their local district and a party they'd like to win a majority. Everyone who wins a district gets a seat, and then additional seats are given out to ensure that parties are represented in proportion to their share of the party vote. This has a number of advantages. Unlike party list representation, people still have representatives with at least some ties to their local area. Voters get 2 votes: one for their local representative, and one for their favorite party. Mixed Member Proportional has familiar local representatives, and simple ballot.
2) Eliminate/abolish the Electoral College (Article 2, Section 1, of The Constitution). This would normally be difficult, because the Electoral College is constitutionally mandated, and abolishing it would require a constitutional amendment. Over the past 200 years more than 700 proposals have been introduced in Congress to reform or eliminate the Electoral College - without any becoming law. It requires two thirds of the House, two thirds of the Senate, and three quarters of the States to vote in favor. There is another easier way to effectively end the Electoral College without technically abolishing it. Agreement of the States to Elect the President by National Popular Vote. An organization called the ‘National Popular Vote Interstate Compact’ (NPVIC) is pushing to eliminate the Electoral College without tampering with the Constitution. Once the NPVIC has reached 270 electoral votes, the passed bills from all the states will kick in and guarantee that the candidate with the highest vote total nationwide would become the president. So far, 15 states (CA, IL, NY, CO, CT, MD, MA, NJ, NM, OR, WA, DE, HI, RI, VT) and the District of Columbia (Total = 196 electoral votes) have committed to the cause. The bill has also passed at least one chamber in 9 additional states with 88 more electoral votes (AR, AZ, ME, MI, MN, NC, NV, OK, VA). So, we need 74 more electoral votes to eliminate the unfair influence of the Electoral College. A total of 3,408 state legislators from all 50 states have endorsed it. www.nationalpopularvote.com/written-explanation
*American citizens need to become politically active to make this happen before the 2024 election.
3) Go back to reliable ‘hand marked pen and paper’ ballots publicly counted and scrutinized. Design simple to understand paper ballots, Standardize the voting system nationally across all states, and do NOT use ‘Black Box’ electronic voting machines (EVMs) or ballot marking devices (BMDs), because any electronic devices are too easily hacked or manipulated to rig voting figures even if using ‘block-chain’ technology. Cyber-attacks can also be undetectable. www.coindesk.com/mit-paper-rejects-blockchain-based-voting-systems-elections
Paper ballots are more reliable and can be recounted if necessary. Democracy is too important to allow the possibility for cheating.
4) Install an independent Election Management Body (EMB) to be responsible for the polling, conducting and tabulating of votes in elections and referenda, and the registration of political parties, oversight of campaign finance, design of the ballot papers, drawing of electoral boundaries, resolution of electoral disputes, civic and voter education and media monitoring for the safeguarding the legitimacy of democratic institutions and the peaceful transitions of power. They need to ensure all aspects of any electoral contest meets global norms and follows the fundamental guiding principles of elections, including independence, impartiality, integrity, transparency, efficiency, professionalism and service-mindedness, that perform in the best interest of the voters.
5) Shorten the Election Campaigns to 4-8 weeks maximum (like most other advanced democracies. This also helps to get money out of politics). Ridiculously long campaigns (18mths) are a waste of money, resources and time; time that should be spent governing the country and providing social programs for citizens needs, not campaigning for re-election.
6) Voting Days to be held on the weekend (not Tuesday), and possibly in conjunction with Veteran’s Day Holiday. (Make it easier for all citizens to be able to vote).
7) Ban voter suppression, upgrade the Voting Rights Act, and introduce a 28th Amendment for the right of every citizen 18 years old and over the right to vote, or introduce mandatory voting (every eligible citizen votes - $50 fine if you don't vote) Australia has mandatory voting and because of this 95% voter turnout. By contrast in the US millions of voters are purged from voter rolls, and at least 40% of provisional ballots are thrown in the trash can and not counted. It’s just another method of rigging the electoral system.
8) Ban gerrymandering of districts to favor one political party. Independent commission should draw district lines, not partisan political parties. Voters should pick their politicians, NOT politicians their voters.
9) *Consider a Unicameral Congress (only House of Representatives needed to pass Bills. There's no need for the Senate to pass Bills, so situations like McConnell and the filibuster holding up important legislation cannot happen). *(NZ is an advanced democracy and has a Unicameral Parliament which works very efficiently). *(a Unicameral System is also one step closer to a direct democracy of all the common people). Unicameral System: www.investopedia.com/terms/u/unicameral-system.asp
Bicameral System: www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bicameral-system.asp
(*The majority of international governments use the unicameral system-with a roughly 60/40 split between unicameral and bicameral.) The only other option other than a unicameral system, is to make it mandatory for Bills passed in the House MUST be voted on immediately in the Senate. Mitch McConnell has sat on hundreds of Bills effectively blocking them from passing.
10) Campaign finance reform (donations only via private citizens with strict donation limits, ban corporate funding and influence).
11) Eliminate the need for political party registration (there’s no need to be affiliated to any political party, and it only encourages gerrymandering). No one should be loyal to just one political party. Force political parties to concentrate on policy to attract your vote.
12) Term limits on all politicians (Congressman and Senators) and judges (in particular Supreme Court justices - no lifetime appointments).
@@jodydavison33 12 Points to Reform US Democracy and the Electoral System.
1) Get rid of First Past the Post (FPP) (sometimes called plurality) voting, and introduce some form of Proportional Representation (PR) Rank Choice Voting (RCV) preferably - Mixed Member Proportional Representation (MMP(R) with Multi-Member Districts. MMP has voters select both a candidate in their local district and a party they'd like to win a majority. Everyone who wins a district gets a seat, and then additional seats are given out to ensure that parties are represented in proportion to their share of the party vote. This has a number of advantages. Unlike party list representation, people still have representatives with at least some ties to their local area. Voters get 2 votes: one for their local representative, and one for their favorite party. Mixed Member Proportional has familiar local representatives, and simple ballot.
2) Eliminate/abolish the Electoral College (Article 2, Section 1, of The Constitution). This would normally be difficult, because the Electoral College is constitutionally mandated, and abolishing it would require a constitutional amendment. Over the past 200 years more than 700 proposals have been introduced in Congress to reform or eliminate the Electoral College - without any becoming law. It requires two thirds of the House, two thirds of the Senate, and three quarters of the States to vote in favor. There is another easier way to effectively end the Electoral College without technically abolishing it. Agreement of the States to Elect the President by National Popular Vote. An organization called the ‘National Popular Vote Interstate Compact’ (NPVIC) is pushing to eliminate the Electoral College without tampering with the Constitution. Once the NPVIC has reached 270 electoral votes, the passed bills from all the states will kick in and guarantee that the candidate with the highest vote total nationwide would become the president. So far, 15 states (CA, IL, NY, CO, CT, MD, MA, NJ, NM, OR, WA, DE, HI, RI, VT) and the District of Columbia (Total = 196 electoral votes) have committed to the cause. The bill has also passed at least one chamber in 9 additional states with 88 more electoral votes (AR, AZ, ME, MI, MN, NC, NV, OK, VA). So, we need 74 more electoral votes to eliminate the unfair influence of the Electoral College. A total of 3,408 state legislators from all 50 states have endorsed it. www.nationalpopularvote.com/written-explanation
*American citizens need to become politically active to make this happen before the 2024 election.
3) Go back to reliable ‘hand marked pen and paper’ ballots publicly counted and scrutinized. Design simple to understand paper ballots, Standardize the voting system nationally across all states, and do NOT use ‘Black Box’ electronic voting machines (EVMs) or ballot marking devices (BMDs), because any electronic devices are too easily hacked or manipulated to rig voting figures even if using ‘block-chain’ technology. Cyber-attacks can also be undetectable. www.coindesk.com/mit-paper-rejects-blockchain-based-voting-systems-elections
Paper ballots are more reliable and can be recounted if necessary. Democracy is too important to allow the possibility for cheating.
4) Install an independent Election Management Body (EMB) to be responsible for the polling, conducting and tabulating of votes in elections and referenda, and the registration of political parties, oversight of campaign finance, design of the ballot papers, drawing of electoral boundaries, resolution of electoral disputes, civic and voter education and media monitoring for the safeguarding the legitimacy of democratic institutions and the peaceful transitions of power. They need to ensure all aspects of any electoral contest meets global norms and follows the fundamental guiding principles of elections, including independence, impartiality, integrity, transparency, efficiency, professionalism and service-mindedness, that perform in the best interest of the voters.
5) Shorten the Election Campaigns to 4-8 weeks maximum (like most other advanced democracies. This also helps to get money out of politics). Ridiculously long campaigns (18mths) are a waste of money, resources and time; time that should be spent governing the country and providing social programs for citizens needs, not campaigning for re-election.
6) Voting Days to be held on the weekend (not Tuesday), and possibly in conjugation with Veteran’s Day Holiday. (Make it easier for all citizens to be able to vote).
7) Ban voter suppression, upgrade the Voting Rights Act, and introduce a 28th Amendment for the right of every citizen 18 years old and over the right to vote, or introduce mandatory voting (every eligible citizen votes - $50 fine if you don't vote) Australia has mandatory voting and because of this 95% voter turnout. By contrast in the US millions of voters are purged from voter rolls, and at least 40% of provisional ballots are thrown in the trash can and not counted. It’s just another method of rigging the electoral system.
8) Ban gerrymandering of districts to favor one political party. Independent commission should draw district lines, not partisan political parties. Voters should pick their politicians, NOT politicians their voters.
9) *Consider a Unicameral Congress (only House of Representatives needed to pass Bills. There's no need for the Senate to pass Bills, so situations like McConnell and the filibuster holding up important legislation cannot happen). *(NZ is an advanced democracy and has a Unicameral Parliament which works very efficiently). *(a Unicameral System is also one step closer to a direct democracy of all the common people). Unicameral System: www.investopedia.com/terms/u/unicameral-system.asp
Bicameral System: www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bicameral-system.asp
(*The majority of international governments use the unicameral system-with a roughly 60/40 split between unicameral and bicameral.) The only other option other than a unicameral system, is to make it mandatory for Bills passed in the House MUST be voted on immediately in the Senate. Mitch McConnell has sat on hundreds of Bills effectively blocking them from passing.
10) Campaign finance reform (donations only via private citizens with strict donation limits, ban corporate funding and influence).
11) Eliminate the need for political party registration (there’s no need to be affiliated to any political party, and it only encourages gerrymandering). No one should be loyal to just one political party. Force political parties to concentrate on policy to attract your vote.
12) Term limits on all politicians (Congressman and Senators) and judges (in particular Supreme Court justices - no lifetime appointments).
Bravo, Bravo! Dr. Stanley and Ms. Amanpour and team. Thank you.
With respect 🙏🏼I have been living with the group responsible for all of this mass terror and sickness and at that time it may have seemed like the government was doing it but yes it did happen it was an organized group
I cannot believe how long it has taken for someone to finally say these things!!!
Agreed he and history Professor Timothy Snyder are right on target!
Lots of people have been saying this including the professor himself for a couple years now......longer actually. Either nobody is listening or the political left can't bring themselves to see/ hear the horrible truth.
Finally? Madeline Albright wrote a book about the "warning signs of fascism" and rang the alarm and gave interviews. She did this before the 2016 election! She basically constructed a connect-the-dots that drew a picture of Trump. A checklist of fascists, such as claiming that the press is the "enemy of The people". Trump checked every box.
She LIVED THRU IT as a youth in Europe and with her father's experience. And with her own experience as a Secretary of State.
Actual leftists have been saying this stuff for 40+ years, it's just that now you're actually listening.
Seems that we knew it in our hearts & minds, just not how to articulate it. Thank You Jason Stanley and all those like you!!!!
This channel has consistently valuable content.
Totally in the tank for the left.
@@Seekthetruth3000 Totally in the tank for the TRUTH.
@@Soapandwater6 Read "1984" by George Orwell and then get back to me.
Amanpour & Co!
@@Seekthetruth3000 I did read 1984 and that looked like a blueprint for trump and the GQP. The similarities were startling.
I’ve been saying this for years. We’re living in a Reichstag moment and only now are people listening. But it’s the leadership that won’t act. It’s the leadership that refuses to give people things that will improve their lives. Question is are they part of the problem or part of the solution!
The Rich Always Walk All Over The Poor, Now They Destorying Everyone Who Isn't Them!!!
Thank you, once again, Jason Stanley, for speaking out and sharing your wisdom.
@boomi dongle you wouldn't know wisdom if it smacked you in the face.
@boomi dongle - Our democracy is sacred and well not be sacrificed to the alter of Trump.
@boomi dongle When you resort to ad hominem attacks, you have lost the argument.
@boomi dongle you are projecting dear
It’s laughable how these two touch on just about every left wing talking point to cover all their bases.
As a veteran who was drafted during Vietnam, fascism has always been a foreign concept that pertained to other countries. It was not something most Americans were concerned with until recently. The election of 2016 turned those concepts upside down. Authoritarianism coming to America will change our way of life to something we have never experienced before.
Wow
In the past America was much more authoritarian than it is now. If you had refused to be drafted during Vietnam you would have been thrown in prison. If you were black and violated Jim Crow laws you would have been jailed. If you had violated the blue laws you could have been jailed. If you married someone outside your race you could be jailed.
After the SCOTUS decisions this week, this is so apparent.
Cynthia Poinsette……Roe v Wade was a horrible decision. It was a made up law. Court did the right thing to kick it down to the states. It’s a states rights issue. Federalism in action. Just like the constitution is meant for. By far the majority of Americans want restrictions on abortion.
This professor has vision and depth with reality
He espouses a mixed message that invalidates his theories- all while omitting other critical factors. Essentially he's an operative for corporatist fascists, but too blind to see it.
This country is going down down ,down.😞
But I have to say it was refreshing to see an intelligent scholar speaking without an agenda. Just telling it like it is.🙌🏻
He has an agenda, it is a leftist agenda.
@@neliborba101 we all have a goal lol. But the rights agenda does not work in favor with anyone even the rich.
@@dragonsbreathe2164 leftist agenda works for the corporate elites as well. It's tech-oligarchy vs material production oligarchy. They are all backed by people unlike me and you.
@@neliborba101 Reality has a liberal bias.
Stanley has no agenda??? C'mon man!
Two interesting things took place in this conversation. First, this is the first time I've ever seen an academic explain explicitly that there's a better than good chance that American Democracy will cease to exist in the very near future. Second, I've never seen Michel Martin look as nervous as I did in this interview. She didn't squirm, but I could read the intensity and stillness on her face and in her body language when Professor Stanley spoke about how fragile American Democracy is and how likely it is that it will fall. Prepare yourself for an autocratic America, folks. After that, prepare yourself for a Military coup... because they won't be able to let an autocratic government stand.
12 Points to Reform US Democracy and the Electoral System.
1) Get rid of First Past the Post (FPP) (sometimes called plurality) voting, and introduce some form of Proportional Representation (PR) Rank Choice Voting (RCV) preferably - Mixed Member Proportional Representation (MMP(R) with Multi-Member Districts. MMP has voters select both a candidate in their local district and a party they'd like to win a majority. Everyone who wins a district gets a seat, and then additional seats are given out to ensure that parties are represented in proportion to their share of the party vote. This has a number of advantages. Unlike party list representation, people still have representatives with at least some ties to their local area. Voters get 2 votes: one for their local representative, and one for their favorite party. Mixed Member Proportional has familiar local representatives, and simple ballot.
2) Eliminate/abolish the Electoral College (Article 2, Section 1, of The Constitution). This would normally be difficult, because the Electoral College is constitutionally mandated, and abolishing it would require a constitutional amendment. Over the past 200 years more than 700 proposals have been introduced in Congress to reform or eliminate the Electoral College - without any becoming law. It requires two thirds of the House, two thirds of the Senate, and three quarters of the States to vote in favor. There is another easier way to effectively end the Electoral College without technically abolishing it. Agreement of the States to Elect the President by National Popular Vote. An organization called the ‘National Popular Vote Interstate Compact’ (NPVIC) is pushing to eliminate the Electoral College without tampering with the Constitution. Once the NPVIC has reached 270 electoral votes, the passed bills from all the states will kick in and guarantee that the candidate with the highest vote total nationwide would become the president. So far, 15 states (CA, IL, NY, CO, CT, MD, MA, NJ, NM, OR, WA, DE, HI, RI, VT) and the District of Columbia (Total = 196 electoral votes) have committed to the cause. The bill has also passed at least one chamber in 9 additional states with 88 more electoral votes (AR, AZ, ME, MI, MN, NC, NV, OK, VA). So, we need 74 more electoral votes to eliminate the unfair influence of the Electoral College. A total of 3,408 state legislators from all 50 states have endorsed it. www.nationalpopularvote.com/written-explanation
*American citizens need to become politically active to make this happen before the 2024 election.
3) Go back to reliable ‘hand marked pen and paper’ ballots publicly counted and scrutinized. Design simple to understand paper ballots, Standardize the voting system nationally across all states, and do NOT use ‘Black Box’ electronic voting machines (EVMs) or ballot marking devices (BMDs), because any electronic devices are too easily hacked or manipulated to rig voting figures even if using ‘block-chain’ technology. Cyber-attacks can also be undetectable. www.coindesk.com/mit-paper-rejects-blockchain-based-voting-systems-elections
Paper ballots are more reliable and can be recounted if necessary. Democracy is too important to allow the possibility for cheating.
4) Install an independent Election Management Body (EMB) to be responsible for the polling, conducting and tabulating of votes in elections and referenda, and the registration of political parties, oversight of campaign finance, design of the ballot papers, drawing of electoral boundaries, resolution of electoral disputes, civic and voter education and media monitoring for the safeguarding the legitimacy of democratic institutions and the peaceful transitions of power. They need to ensure all aspects of any electoral contest meets global norms and follows the fundamental guiding principles of elections, including independence, impartiality, integrity, transparency, efficiency, professionalism and service-mindedness, that perform in the best interest of the voters.
5) Shorten the Election Campaigns to 4-8 weeks maximum (like most other advanced democracies. This also helps to get money out of politics). Ridiculously long campaigns (18mths) are a waste of money, resources and time; time that should be spent governing the country and providing social programs for citizens needs, not campaigning for re-election.
6) Voting Days to be held on the weekend (not Tuesday), and possibly in conjugation with Veteran’s Day Holiday. (Make it easier for all citizens to be able to vote).
7) Ban voter suppression, upgrade the Voting Rights Act, and introduce a 28th Amendment for the right of every citizen 18 years old and over the right to vote, or introduce mandatory voting (every eligible citizen votes - $50 fine if you don't vote) Australia has mandatory voting and because of this 95% voter turnout. By contrast in the US millions of voters are purged from voter rolls, and at least 40% of provisional ballots are thrown in the trash can and not counted. It’s just another method of rigging the electoral system.
8) Ban gerrymandering of districts to favor one political party. Independent commission should draw district lines, not partisan political parties. Voters should pick their politicians, NOT politicians their voters.
9) *Consider a Unicameral Congress (only House of Representatives needed to pass Bills. There's no need for the Senate to pass Bills, so situations like McConnell and the filibuster holding up important legislation cannot happen). *(NZ is an advanced democracy and has a Unicameral Parliament which works very efficiently). *(a Unicameral System is also one step closer to a direct democracy of all the common people). Unicameral System: www.investopedia.com/terms/u/unicameral-system.asp
Bicameral System: www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bicameral-system.asp
(*The majority of international governments use the unicameral system-with a roughly 60/40 split between unicameral and bicameral.) The only other option other than a unicameral system, is to make it mandatory for Bills passed in the House MUST be voted on immediately in the Senate. Mitch McConnell has sat on hundreds of Bills effectively blocking them from passing.
10) Campaign finance reform (donations only via private citizens with strict donation limits, ban corporate funding and influence).
11) Eliminate the need for political party registration (there’s no need to be affiliated to any political party, and it only encourages gerrymandering). No one should be loyal to just one political party. Force political parties to concentrate on policy to attract your vote.
12) Term limits on all politicians (Congressman and Senators) and judges (in particular Supreme Court justices - no lifetime appointments).
Sorry, there are a couple of typos in my comment. I tried to correct them, but CZcams won’t let me post the edited version of my comment, so I’m just leaving it as is.
@@bipolarbear9917 You're correct. The issue is will all of these necessary changes be implemented before Democracy falls. It won't. Unless the military does it first, the current iteration of the Republican Party will establish an autocratic/fascist government. This will weaken us. Our intelligence agencies will have to move swiftly and decisively to take over the country, otherwise, we'll be open to a host of dangerous foreign entities. What things look like after that, I don't know. It's possible that they'll revamp aspects of political law and implement some of the suggestions you've listed. Hopefully...
@@bipolarbear9917 yes YES!!!!!!!
@@bipolarbear9917 Unbelievably thoughtful. I am so impressed that you’ve considered solutions to all this. I’m not convinced that theses things can be achieved, but anything that has to be done starts small and builds. Thanks for starting it off.
Brilliant,... and thank you for doing this important interview!
This interview terrified TF out of me. Thank God that the January 6 hearings begin next week - the public needs to be shaken out of its apathy and oblivion.
Praying that my fellow Americans can see that Republicans are doing everything up to and including violence to plunge our country into fascism.
Democrats are the downfall that must be stopped
Democrats and blacks created this racist shit. Obama set things back 50 years. Meathead
This is so depressing, and it appears that our people and institutions will simply respond to late to this democratic crisis.
Long ago far away
Yes agreed. Unfortunately to be seen as balanced and non-reactionary the legal and justice systems need to move at a slower pace than politics.
This might be democracy's Achilles heel.
Can you blame them? It's one thing to read the history of The Bad Old Days, but to find *yourself* on the precipice of The Bad New Days and it's up to *you* to take action? You read what happened to those people and what else would you say but "I don't wanna do that shit! I don't wanna face prison and torture and death! I didn't take out half a million in student loans to dodge bullets and spies!"
too many people are all for an evangelical christian fascist state. our governments are largely behind it, too.
Part of the problem is the legal fixes have to get thru the senate. We need the senate to have a larger democratic majority after this falls voting. Then we can vote in term limits, change filibuster rules, change donation rules. Install new rules around breaking oaths, experience, schooling and morality & integrity rules for representatives and senators.
We need to teach these basic precepts in our high school civics.
But if schools won't do it, parents should.
i’m an educator in california. US curriculum in some (other) states still refers to slavery as the “triangle of trade.” and now we have to justify teaching the writings of such greats as Toni Morrison. can you imagine trying to justify teaching “how Fascism works” to an entire frothing population emboldened by burning books? they are easily wound up and pointed in the direction directed by elites like T***p, Cruz, McCarthy, etc, as they see fit.
Many high schools have no civics classes. You can learn coding but not civics. It isn’t there in most cases.
@@mandyinseattle I agree. I went to good public schools in Boston, but even there, many subjects are glossed over. My parents, not formally educated, told me stories of their Balkan homeland. We also had friends from other parts of Europe, Asia and Africa. I took all this for granted and just assumed everyone knew what I knew.
No. It ought to be the pledge of allegiance followed by 40 minutes flag veneration.
I love how perplexed the host is as to why power corrupts so thoroughly and why it's so seductive. It's because above all else power is a lifestyle, it comes with influence and adulation and that causes a massive sense of elitism and self importance. So ppl don't like to give that up.
He is absolutely right. So enlightening
Absolutely love this guy. He's the real deal. He earnestly cares about this and I can understand what he says and means.
He's talking garbage.
@@jutsu1He usually does did you see his latest tweet ?
I recommend you read The People, No! by Thomas Frank. The prof. here mentions Hofstadter's works, well, Frank points out that on the subject of populism, Hofstadter's arguments were demolished shortly after his book was published. Christoper Lasch, one of Hofstadter's students, noted that putting down the American middle class for deriving emotional comfort from nostalgia seemed to fulfill an emotional need for Hofstadter and his friends. I always loved that observation of Lasch's. Really, go and look at some of the material this guy is assuming is solid, and you'll find it has lots of flaws. In summary, this dude is talking so much BS that one has to wonder how he got a position at Yale. Perhaps this is the kind of BS Yale wants to hear though. Perhaps it fulfills and emotional need.
Projection: Accusing others of what you are guilty of. I've watched the republican party do that for decades! They've practically mastered the technique.
If they get there first, what are you going to say, "I know you are, but what am I?"
May God protect the🇺🇸 from Fascism!
Watching this in light of the recent Supreme Court rulings is even more chilling. They are even signaling that they will hear arguments from states that want to have full control over whose electoral votes they should count, even if they differ from the person who won their state. I also highly recommend a video from this same guy called "The 10 tactics of fascism". The first 30 seconds alone will convince you that the Trumplicans are reading from that playbook: czcams.com/video/CpCKkWMbmXU/video.html
Read my reply and come out of the dark.
@@charleshimes1634 Are you a fascist too ?
DoD budget is $768 bil/year= .75 tril for 1 year, yet no cash can be spent for infrastructure
And theres no cash for any social programs like for children and universal healthcare 😕
Yes the real estate lobby & segregation rely on traffic being done with gasoline dependent vehicles such as cars & trucks & planes as opposed to trains & trolleys & wheelchairs.
No cash for hungry or homeless people either
One reason is this may help "unworthy" people like Blacks and Republicans are against that.
Yes, the way the American democracy develops impacts the rest of the democratic world. Living in the the Netherlands I am following US politics attentively and with concern. Wishing you all the wisdom and strength needed.
It's obvious who is against our country and democracy but need to hear more from those from other countries and what concerns are.
Well if you’re watching mainstream media you’re not getting the real story this included
I disagree completely. The US is a Republic with only two parties. A true Democracy is governed completely different. Their problems are completely theirs because they created it. Their crappy government does not affect true Democracies around the world.
@@maryjeanjones7569 populism and extreme right parties are present in European democracies these days. They have a huge influence at the moderate political parties and at political leaders as well. Brexit is one of the examples what can happen when populism gets serious. We also see the development in countries like Hungary and Poland, where liberal democracy is no longer there. Those countries are not real democracies anymore, but changed into illiberal democracies. In fact they changed into autocracies. US is now called by it own political scientists a anacracy.
@@agnesgoldenbeld341 - The US is so Far Right they are heading towards Fascism. Safe to say it's already there.
Its going down...and lots of people are complicit. Right in front of us, with all the warning signs, but half the country won't see it....
Excellent analysis
The longer WW2 is away so more we forget how dangerous this is
This guy is saying it like it is. We've got a 1930 Germany situation here, combined with apocalyptic climate crisis and a deadly pandemic. The MAGA crazies must be stopped now.
There is no apocalyptic climate crisis. That is a leftist lie to control the planet and its resources.
@@neliborba101 didn’t you just had a power outage in all of Texas and a massive storm hit the south killing factory workers.
@@neliborba101 Tavistock, but they are propagandized to believe humans are bad.
@@dragonsbreathe2164 geoengineering
@@smidgemcgee9609 Truth usually hurts but you laugh.
"Violent action against government sometimes justified"?? On the face of it, yes. But look at two fallacies against this statement in view of the facts here - (1) The violence was conducted by the incumbent government against the nation, and its constitution and democracy. (2) The violence was not in defense of freedom and democracy, but on the contrary, in the promotion of tyranny and fascism.
I will simply vote AGAINST each and every single candidate that has NOT openly denounced the Trump movement. That said, I will vote FOR any person who has the GREATEST CHANCE of defeating that candidate. This is an all out battle at the ballot box for our country in its existential threat from autocratic rule by insane people with zero heart and soul. I recommend you do the same.
With you all the way!
I'm with you, but our greatest problem is what happens before we vote. In the current gerrymandering system, redistricting builds voting blocks that give the most power to the fewest people, also removing current Democratic legislators. The outcome becomes predetermined. This is a huge problem that, while it's benefitted both sides, the Democrats need to lean on, explain and fight, otherwise our votes mean nothing.
@@GladysAlicea Yes, we are at a profound reckoning in our country's history. No doubt about it. It will be a true test of our democracy. If the democracy gives the country away, the lies will win the day and history will repeat itself. Hatred is part of our sub-human nature that can only be transcended with our higher minds, where the very ideal of equality is upheld. Trump has tapped that hatred and magnified it SPECIFICALLY for his hunger for more power. History has several examples of this.
It's the whole GOP!!! Vote them out!!!
@@kbone8137 Our higher minds are in short supply these days. The Great Leader and his news propaganda network have cultivated so much distrust, fear, and hatred in so many people. Their higher minds don't have a chance.
Sometimes I look at the books in my home and bedroom and wonder how many of these would be burned today, in theory? It's scary how this might actually have to be considered, even in our own homes.
There's no better way to explain things in a way we can understand than this!
Jason Stanley is brilliant, he just is. His books, speeches, interviews, all at a different level, different respect.
No he's not
Yes he is excellent and on point
@@jamesmedina2062 No he really isn't. This guy is full of crap
‘How Propaganda Works’ turned me into a free person❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@@kristinamelnichenko5775 no it didn't
The projection is real and it's easy to predict their future arguments.
I've felt Republicans look in the mirror for arguments for years, and what are you going to say, "I know you are, but what am I?"
It is predictable conduct, by the playbook, when one understands the psych profiles and how they work. They just try whatever sometimes too knowing it's all part of the sideshow.
Thank you Professor Stanley. Our country needs to pay attention!
She wrapped up that interview pretty nicely in my opinion. I wouldn't have been able to think of anything to say to that either