Echo Night: Beyond - Nitro Rad
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
- Fromsoft concludes their adventure horror trilogy by exploring the loneliness offered by the final frontier. Echo Night Beyond takes several steps back for gameplay, but one giant leap for gameplay-based narrative.
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Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction
2:30 - Game's Opening
4:57 - Gameplay and Story
15:50 - Criticisms
22:00 - Puzzles and Narrative
23:45 - Spoilers
35:41 - Closing Thoughts - Hry
"Wait, I'm Richard Osmend?
Always have been."
Now, literally.
Maybe these games are all parallel timelines with Richard, the spirits, and the red stone being the constants?
'James Insulting You Through Song' is my new ringtone.
I want fullversion of james insulting song!!
10/10 music
Bro gimme a download link
Download link please
Time stamp pls
Alright now everyone, let's give a big "Thank You" to NitroRad for ending our suffering.
Is there something I'm missing? Because I think I missed something
@@the24thcolossusjustchillin39 The video kept getting delayed because the election results would have swept over it. Eventually he just decided to post a link to the unlisted video and almost at the same exact time the election got called.
@@ukokira9852 Ah thanks
He ended our suffering like the ghosts in the game
@Judah Macabee I think I found the bitter trump fan. You lost. Deal with it.
Damn dude, that speech near the end about holding onto connections in death. Give yourself a pat on the back, that was great.
Never thought I'd get teary eyed watching a game review, but here we are.
I almost cried too. Like holy heck man, you really sold it.
This is the 2nd time I cried to a review, the first time was over nitrorad's super mario odyssey review 😂😂
Damn it... My humanity is leaking
Another good video was him talking about Canadian cartoons near the end.
Echo night, or as it should be called the haunted misadventures of the many Richard Osmonds
Parents, please don't name your children this!
Maybe the real echo night was the richard osmonds we made along the way
@@BlueDavrial Maybe the Richard Osmonds were the Richard Osmonds we made along the way, too. It's a rich tapestry.
Richard Osmand’s Ghostly Adventure
@@bellicosebean the grim adventures of the Osmond's
"Hey, you're back ear-"
"moonishaunted"
"What?"
*Loading Gun* "Moon.Is.Haunted."
You have earned some internet points
Destiny 1&2
In summary: this, kids, is why adventure games need designers as much as they need writers.
Amen
Nah, just "git gud", no designers needed
@@J0rdan912 Just because puzzles are difficult doesn't mean they are fun to solve.
@@ShinoSarna Exactly, it was sarcasm
@@J0rdan912 Ah yes, sarcasm, notably very easy to get across in writing on the internet.
29:21 "Hey V-Sauce James here and are we Richard?..."
I'm sorry it just felt natural.
I WAS LITERALLY THINKING THE SAME THING WHEN WATCHING THAT CLIP BACK
"And where is 'here', really?"
Dang James it’s 358 days till Halloween and your already uploading your Halloween special I respect the grind that’s insane!
It's weird indeed. Everywhere I comment, people tell me how much they love me and my videos. Sometimes it is annoying. But right now it would be okay. So say something nice about my content, dear eric
@@AxxLAfriku god you're the worst
@@AxxLAfriku *educated shut up*
*Insert Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days joke here*
@@AxxLAfriku bro nobody cares about your subpar garbage
"I'm going to the one place still untouched by ghosts... SPACE!" - MC
LATER
"Moon's Haunted" - Ghosts
"DAMMIT!!" MC, with a Heartrate of 298
This might be one of my favorite reviews of yours because of that sharp editing. Splicing together the clips between the android and the director admitting his guilt to create the full story was just one example of how well this one was thought out.
It paints the painful, but resonant story of how far humanity will go to salvage something, be it pride, love, the truth, etc. And bringing it all back to the Russian team who found the wreckage and the space-bound casket was the perfect bow on top of the wrapping. Excellent job hooking me into this game with narration and editing alone! This was well worth the wait :)
Thank you so much duder!!! I spent WAY more time on the script this time than i ever have before. Super glad to see it was worth the effort!
Out of all of the videos I watched that Nitrorad has done, this is my favorite.
This is why I love Nitrorad. He doesn't just bash a game for being bad, he tells you what parts of the game have problems and provides examples for how to improve it. Like that part with the duct tape when he showed a picture of it being yellow. Brilliant!
"Space. It has to be the most lonely place you will ever die."
Oh, this is gonna be fun.
37:20 yes, YES. THANK you. The preservation of games and the extension to preservation of childhoods is one of the most important things. People have to remember, these were made by people with aspiring dreams! People who wanted to give you the best kind of game they knew how to do, and some of these games even have historic ties. some created entire genres, others perfected it. some were made to tell a story, and some were supposed to be the most brutal ball bustingly hard games you've ever played. Whatever the story is, these games mean something to somebody.
I have entire complete libraries of different consoles, spanning from a multitude of companies from nintendo, sega, atari, and even obscure ones that you probably don't even know about. Ones that I didn't even know about! I'm not keeping them on my computer to just flip the bird off to some company like nintendo, I'm doing this because I care.
Some of these games never have that glorious second return. Some don't even see the light of day, and are never released. Some have the earlier builds of their games found and leaked on the internet. These things we can all look at, learn from, and appreciate what was put into them. doesn't matter if the game is good or bad you can still learn something about them. some of the most interesting stuff came out of bad games. And from learning what we could about these games, some people even got to create their own games. They make them and now sell them to you. Games that you may very well praise to the heavens.
So please, help preserve these dreams, these childhoods, these *Games*. Because they are worth preserving. They are worth being cared for. They are worth it to everybody.
Tl;dr: game preservation is very important, and it's up to you to help save these. One day, the internet is going to be the only place to have them.
Preach!
//hugs her precious game collection to her chest
My... precious...
Yes!! Games deserve to be cherished and preserved. So much work is put into them, and too often are the people who made them forgotten. There is always something to be found in a game, no matter how flawed it is. Some of my favorite games were huge commercial failures, but they still mean a lot to me. To everyone out there helping to preserve games, thank you for your hard work.
Yes exactly! One of my favorite examples is a game on the Sega Saturn called Panzer Dragoon Saga, a truly amazing game most people have never played. With disc rot becoming a real factor and the games insanely high price now, its a prime example that game preservation needs to be better, or else they will be lost to history
@@maxaroni39 same here dude! Some of my favorites are just some of the worst games imaginable.
Sonic 06, just being one, has so many things that I never knew were in it. There are ways you can glitch into this weird zone where you're stuck in the forest with nothing but a couple of stop signs in front of you. There are ways you can get Omega to hover past where his stage is supposed to end and be able to reach the background. And you can walk on it!
these kind of things are some of my favorites because, well you're not supposed to be there obviously. It's fun to break a game. And a game to be so easily manipulated, makes me feel smart almost. As the AVGN put it, I can be my very own game graphic glitch gremlin.
19:00 Why does this make me believe that you noticed your intonation was fitting the song and then SLAPPED it into the video because you just had to.
I love it.
I actually went back and rerecorded the line to go with it lol, I initially just picked a random goofy Banjo song, but the last few notes made me think of it lol
Ok I feel dumb asking
What song is it
@@NitroRad FUCKING EPIC
Game preservation is indeed a problem.
It's why I still have folders filled with emulators and game roms.
You are preserving the game. Digital is forever. Physical will at some point fade away. This is coming from someone who physically owns all his games. I enjoy owning physical artifacts, but if one wants to play the ROMs and ISOs for games because they're too expensive then that shouldn't ever be frowned upon. Gaming is too expensive now.
@@mariospapadoniou7086
>digital is forever
Wtf
@clayton b
So long as the hardware is functional.
This remind me of SOMA.
@@dannylamb456 Just put it in your Google Drive, problem solved
Although you won't see this James,
The dates that come after the copyright symbol are to signify the year that each game came out.
From the earliest to latest installment.
Pretty funny they acknowledge the entry that never got a western release lol
Never imagined Nitro saying directly to my face: ''Let's do it on the moon.'' With a smirk.
Ok now I blushed
@@MiloKuroshiro B-bowser???
I did
"They're doin' it on the moon" -- Lyric from Charles Wright's Express Yourself.
You could argue the camera mechanic plays into the theme of distance too. Being able to see these people and know their stories but never truly being able to interact with them in life
Or even rarely being able to interact with them at all and finding their clues as segregated recordings. Man that camera mechanic is cool.
Yo my stepdad was in this game as a VA! It’s wild to hear this being talked about.
Really? Which of the characters did he voice?
I’d like to know too
Guess the world will never know...
I know im late but wich character
So it's Rule of Rose but in Space. Huh. Sign me up.
At least there’s less dead dogs and evil children.
I just saw this as dead space, but on the moon and around 150 years earlier
And eating children
Man, the last part talking about how you interpreted the theme hit me really hard to the point of tearing up. The themes of isolation hit close to home because of quarantine and it's made me really think about life. Life really should be about making connections and being happy.
My 18 year old cousin committed suicide back in February, and I've been depressed since then. The ending at the spoiler section really got to me. Thank you James, this really helped me come to terms with his passing.
I’m sorry
:')
Omg that’s horrible. I’m sorry for your loss.
Happened to my 'father, i know the feel
I agree completely about companies making more accessible their older games, but I swear to god, if they start using bullshit like limited releases, my head will explode. btw awesome video!!! this is my favorite by far!!!! : D
Nintendo's already doing that and because of it among other things I hope Switch sales drop like a rock after the PS5 & Xbox Series X come out.
@@GatorRay Yeah. Limited releases (especially for so short a time frame), are a really bad look in a post scarcity medium like video games. Strong arming people into buying as soon as possible is about as consumer antagonistic as you can get, especially when it's a product that you know a lot of people are interested in.
@@GatorRay sorry dude but they'll probably only suffer a slight decrease
@@GatorRay Oh yeah, Switch sales should fall simply because of a pair of games (that are actually re-releases or ports) getting the limited treatment.
@@SaberToothPortilla Dude, there's nothing wrong with what Nintendo is doing. If you want the games then buy them prior to the time limit and that's it.
I got to say, hearing you talk about isolation and the connections people make with each other resonated with me. Especially given the state of world right now...
Not gonna lie, it made me tear up a bit. 😢
I hear ya. We got people asking for unity between political parties, but you got one party saying no because party A wants to take Part B's rights away, even though it's Party A that's calling for the unity in the first place! I hate politics. I really do.
@@cooltrainervaultboy-39 I... don't follow where there's a contradiction in those words.
A: We want everyone to work together and respect each other!
B: _crafts laws explicitly designed to single out and hurt groups because they're "weird" or "scary" or "sinful" or "freaks"_
A: _sets themselves against B and openly decries their terrible bigoted goals, because what B is doing is _*_*the opposite of unity*_*
As someone who suffers from anxiety, I many a time have panic attacks of what's after death but hearing nitro rads explanation of echo nights lesson of "don't fear what's after death because you'll have memories and connections with the ones you love" is very comforting to hear and makes my anxiety just a bit easier to deal with, thank you nitro rad, for helping spread the beautiful message that this game wants to share.
i can't wait to see how THIS one's about how immortality sucks
Immortality in a mortal world sounds shitty, immortality where you ascend to a higher plane and dont have to deal with being stuck in a meatbag, now thats something to be excited for
Spoiler
The main character is an Android. So you're immortal from the start.
The only way that immortality would be a bad thing to me is if you where stuck in some kind of prison that you cant escape or if the earth would blow up and your still on it.
Except for that immortality would only be a wonderful thing for me and i would do it right away if i could because you get to experience so many different interesting things that will happen during history and meet so many different interesting people and you will have time to travel all over the world and do all the things you wanna do.
It will feel sad when friends and family die yea but you can get many more of those so its not like you must be alone.
And once your dead your gone forever and can never do anything anymore so we should try to avoid that for as long as possible.
@Zoomer Waffen technically an android can always replenish it's power source and replace parts. Despite needing occasional maintenance it won't die until destroyed by an external force. As long as it can replace parts and maintain a power supply, which theoretically is super easy, it'll be fine. Even then you can argue it's consciousness will exist even if it's body is destroyed cause its a machine and its mind is digital.
@@KOTEBANAROT depends on what you perceive as a higher plane of reality and whethere or no said meatbag would just be a giant amorphous jelly.
Man, that's gotta be the coolest use of Moonlight Sonata ever
Edit: Man, that talk about game preservation reminds me PT was officially announced as completely unavailable to play on the PS5. I really hope we get SOMETHING from Silent Hill soon
@@SirBlackReeds Current rumors. Don't believe anything till it's announced, this has been going all year long for every single important game event and PlayStation announcement.
@@sheaedwards
Konami is gonna ruin it like they did with Metal Gear.
@@Joawlisdoingfine Yeah I definitely wouldn't trust Konami on their on, but if the rumors are to be believed a lot of the work is probably gonna be with Sony, so at the very least there's going to be quality assurance even if it completely betrays what Silent Hill is, but the rumors also say some of the Team Silent guys are coming back. I still don't trust it till the day it releases, and I don't believe it exists until it's announced, but if the rumors are true I'm not as worried about Konami getting their grubby hands on it
37:45 It is really weird to see some companies go "the game didnt sell well at launch so it obviously wont sell well now." Atlus themselves was surprised how well a re-release of Persona 4 Golden sold in Steam....when that was already a very popular game. People have been clamoring for re-releases of games like the Original PS2 Xenosaga's, and though I dont know how hard it is to make a game work on different hardware; it's got to be worth the money and effort for games or even companies that have gotten alot more traction since their original re-release. This isnt even going into tweaking gameplay; just re-releasing a game can be very successful if it was hard to get ahold of before
Hell,the same thing applies to all the PS2 SMT games(Not Persona 3 and 4).Until the SMT3 remaster that just released,there was no way to play any of them aside from digging up a PS2. The remaster is a lazy one,but it being released on modern consoles might open up the game to potential new fans that never played t. Hopefully Atlus does the same thing(except better effort) with the Digital Devil Saga duology and the Raidou duology. Persona games get re releases out the ass,so it's nice that the other PS2 games might finally get a shot.
@@infinitedreamer9359 I specifically recall saying Atlus saying the P4G release did so much better than they were expecting that they would do more re-releases like that in the future.
@@infinitedreamer9359 Minor counterpoint, Digital Devil Saga and Nocturne *were* on the PS3 PSN. And then in Japan it took the PS4's *entire life span* for the remaster to come out, and for the rest of the world, a quarter of a year AFTER the PS5 releases.
...Kinda normal Atlus being Atlus and only REALLY giving a shit about a platform well after its successor is out, huh? Hell, they did it with Persona 4 TWICE now, with the original PS2 game and Sega screaming at them to port Golden to Steam.
@Buddha UwU Thats a pretty pessimistic outlook and is overlooking franchises that did come back out of nowhere, or times when game companies DO pay attention to fan demand. Guilty Gear Accent Core +R recently got a major update improving the online because *fans* were making an fanmod for it. ArcSys saw that and basically said "okay, we'll make it an official update to the game so you dont have to make it a mod". Theres also characters like Kos-mos from Xenosaga or Morrigan (and often Darkstalkers as a serious) who get constant references in modern projects even if they havent had their own game in years. Sure, not every company does that, but other companies do. Freaking BUBSY and SHAQ-FU came back due to their infamy, which was shown through fan engagement.
it is the same i feel about odin sphere, i want to experience that, but i dont own a console, unless i have to emulate.
seeing the hell this video's release has been through, I'll rewatch it aa few time consecutively, for good measure ^^
What happened?
@@chikinonfrydai he wanted to release it on Halloween, but got delayed, then he delayed it because of the election to not disappear in the flood of news and then when he released it, the US president was chosen.
@@shadesofnier1 Oh, that’s no fun.
I know I'm a few months late, but if you want a game similar to Echo Night, I would highly recommend the Sexy Brutale and The Return of the Obra Dinn, two games that have a similar death exploration concept, but handle it *very* differently. In the Sexy Brutale, you explore a mansion hosting a massive party, during which all of the guests are killed in various ways at different times, you have to observe what happens during their deaths and figure out what you need to change to save them. In Return of the Obra Dinn, you play an insurance investigator for the East India company, and you have to figure out what happened to the crew of the recently returned ship the Obra Dinn by using a magic pocket watch to see the exact moment of someone's death, with the puzzle being figuring out who everyone is and how they died. Neither is *exactly* like Echo Nights, but both have a similar concept of exploring death and learning about people from how they die
I gotta say, I didn't expect this game to be redeeming- usually when a series ends it's because the last game sold poorly or was received horribly. Instead we got a game much like Rule of Rose- fantastic story, ideas, and fantastic concepts... Locked behind a game with more flaws than perfections.
The trouble is it’s very hard for a game to overcome poor gameplay mechanics, because you have to go through them to get to the story and alike.
Really appreciate the addition of chapters to the video! I usually watch these in one sitting anyway but I'm sure they'll be useful to others.
Also wow that opening cutscene looks beyond it's years, very nice looking.
I love how, even though Halloween has passed, this video still has the Halloween intro
And his channel still has the Halloween icon as of this comment.
Well it was supposed to be uploaded on Halloween but he couldn't finish it in time
19:05 I love how this syncs with the song
When Nitro Rad swears it always sounds so fitting to the situation that can go past my ears until I realise that He actualy swore on a video. It just blends in well for some strange reason.
"its entropic nature assures our inevitable demise"... oof someone did his thermodynamics homework
Ah, "The heat death of the universe." Something about it always strikes me as... odd. I have no clue why.
This game has an incredible atmosphere despite the gameplay issues, and it is one of those that you should play if you have the patience...But it might not be a good idea to play alone or if you are feeling down, it can be an upsetting experience sometimes.
And I also agree with the video game preservation. Moreover, there is also the fact that physical copies degrade over time. Not only we have fewer copies over time, but some of these copies might not run properly after a while, making some hidden gems lost forever
2003 to 2008 Graphics: GREY. GREY, MORE GREY DAMN IT.
"A wedding ring, with the initials R.O. carved into it."
oh
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@@junichiroyamashita look at my name
@@s0mniosidae oh,well
34:18 actually started to choke up a bit around here
I cried a bit towards the end of the spoiler section.
Great video as always
You here?
That talk about the ending, about how are connections go with us. That whole speech brought me to light tears. Truly beautiful.
Secret tunnel, secret tunnel. Through the Twitter. Secret, secret, secret, secret tunnel.
YEAH
TWO LOVERS
Is that a reference to what I think it's a reference to?
@@i_teleported_bread7404 god I hope so!
Perhaps if they had the ability to scan for items, it would make finding these obscure items easier, but it would consume battery power used for the flashlight, and that would have made the battery management a lot more interesting.
But the low gravity platforming? That was something that could have been handled better, but this is outer space they're emulating, with all its trappings.
wait fromsoft added a platforming section to a game that doesnt work with it? sounds familiar
a new millennium fromsoft staple I'd say
It's almost like FromSoft should fucking stop having a jump command when they seemingly don't know that Super Mario Bros. did it with one button and the jump was simple.
(Seriously, what jackass came up with how it works in Dark Souls 1?)
I have two words for what you said about game preservation at the end:
PREACH IT.
I never made the connection before, but Echo Night: Beyond reminds me a lot of The Starship Damrey on 3DS. I'd recommend playing it if you haven't. It's also a cool horror-adventure game set in space, though much shorter and only 8 dollars. The development was headed by two old Chunsoft devs who worked on their visual/sound novels. Now I want to replay it.
Nitro, you might really like Return of the Obra Dinn. It’s less scary and more puzzle-y, but it also has that sense of wandering an abandoned ship and unraveling the mystery of those who died there. Incredible atmosphere and an intriguing plot, I highly recommend it.
My God, your edition is SO SMOOTH on this one. I LOOOVE what you did with the music specially
The heart rate monitor syste. really reminds me of Illbleed for the Dreamcast, wish more horror games used a health mechanic like that
I'd love to see Nitro Rad talk about Illbleed. It's quite an interesting obscure title.
@@sarafontanini7051 you got your wish!
Damn that end speech feels straight out of a MGS game
‘Echo Nights’ sounds like such a good and interesting game series, and it’s such a shame that I (And many others, I assume) haven’t heard about it before Jame did his reviews about them. This is that kind of game series that deserves a good remake, to be available to a long range of people who didn’t play it when originally released
Thanks for that speech on the ending, it really resonated with me...
an artist I followed has passed away all of a sudden and I have been wrestling with the feeling of that, it really hurts seeing someone leave, but it's inevitable.
Which artist?
While the rest of the video was great (as per usual), the segment at 35:00 was OUTSTANDING. The script for that part was written and delivered perfectly, which, combined with the impeccable visual and music editing and timing, legitimately caused me to stand up, pause the video, and think for a little while. I felt like you managed to not only explain the theme of connection, but also effectively convey how and why that theme should impact us. I think that you really poured a lot of time and passion into this video, and man, does it show.
Additionally, overall, the editing in particular was fantastic this video. This is, at least to me, the most impressive video on this channel (so far)!
This is your best video.
Please be proud of yourself, your interpretation of the game's themes were beautiful. Sure, you're just talking about a video game, but you put effort into actually thinking about what the developers were trying to say, and you really poured your heart into sharing this message with us. Thank you, James, you're really someone special.
I know this might be a cheesey message, but I just wanted to put myself out there and show you some genuine appreciation for what you do, which is sharing art with us, your audience.
“Game preservation is becoming a problem”. Honestly, any other year I would have undoubtedly agreed with you, but now, well, the word “problem” has acquired a new magnitude.
What do you mean
@@Sneedboy Nintendo, Nintendo, Nintendo. Nintendo most especially. They're dangling a fucking carrot with the idea of preservation so cruelly it hurts.
They started off the Wii so good too, the Wii Virtual Console was truly expansive and we can kinda forgive not having a bunch of the others due to licensing. But as the consoles went on, the VC shrunk and shrunk until we were left with Nintendo Switch Online having us begging for goddamn SCRAPS at this point.
And hey, Wii U ports because no one bought the Wii U! ...That because they're treating it like the Wii U never existed are selling for 60 bucks. Oh well, we buy all sorts of collections five times over all the time, one single normal purchase isn't that bad.
Super Mario 3D All Stars! The FIRST TIME EVER that Mario Sunshine has been ported! We get to try out the Shindou version of Mario 64! Mario Galaxy without shaking the controller to spin and gyro is just as easy as pointers! ...By the way, *the digital version is gone in March.* Why? Fuck you, buy it now before you miss out!
Mario 35! It's Tetris 99, but with Mario 1! It's awesome and an even better idea than the old fanmade battle royale game! ...By the way, *it's gone in March too.* when even Tetris is staying. Why? Fuck you, pay for NSO right now or you miss out forever.
The original NES Fire Emblem game is FINALLY LOCALIZED, so Intelligent Systems is actually bothering to give us the original six FE games they never translated outside of the later remakes! *It's also gone in March. A MOTHERHUMPING WITH EXTRA EMULATOR OPTIONS. AND IT'S BEING REMOVED TOO. WHY!?* FE1 IS EVEN ON NSO ANYWAY ON THE FAMICOM APP, WHY THE FUCK BOTHER!?
You see? Nintendo suddenly decided to make a hugely restrictive Disney Vault to prey on Fear Of Missing Out. Why, when they're literally the richest entertainment company in Japan? Fuck if I know.
*They were going to remove Jump Rope Challenge too. A free game. That employees made so everyone has a fun exercise DURING A GLOBAL PANDEMIC MAKING EVERYONE STAY HOME, AND THEY WERE ABOUT TO REMOVE IT *
THAT was just...you truly can never understand Nintendo. People may claim they're actually predictable if you look at their business patterns, but...no, not with that.
@@UltimaKeyMaster I couldn't have said it better myself. A great paragraph about why it's all just inexcusable and such a stupid problem...
@videoluver7 It's sad that you're probably very, very right.
@@UltimaKeyMaster thing is its likely they will backtrack and not remove the games.
I've been watching the Nitro Rad channel for a couple of years now. I always liked his style of reviews, they felt more like a true retrospect instead of the typical rant and rave videos that several other channels do. There was a special something that I couldn't figure out that really kept drawing me back. I finally figured it out! His voice over work is on a different level. There is not over produced script read sounding voice track, but something that feels real and gets you into the mood for the video. His horror videos all have that slow melancholy feel to them, putting you in edge. His platformer videos are more exuberant and pronounced, giving you that fun vibe. The games he adores you can just hear him gush about them in his voice. It all feels like a conversation rather than saying a deadpan line wjth memes attached to it to try and get lols.
Please, don't ever change James! You are awesome and have some amazing content. Keep this up bud!
Word. Good articulation of the value in NitroRad's comtent there :)
nasa employee: oh hey u guys are back early
astronaut: moon's haunted
nasa employee: what?
astronaut: *loading a pistol and getting back on the rocket-ship* moon's haunted."
Y’know, I think a good alternative to the music sting when you’re spotted by the ghosts would be to have the beep of the heart rate monitor getting faster and louder. That would actually get people on edge, and not just startled.
18:55 When your parents move something that you couln´d find where you left it
in hindsight, even androids can have heart attacks?
Well, let just say that Androids is like a perfect clone of yourself. Completely captures your psychical body.
Kek, good point
Maybe Claudia built him too well?
I suppose the android is a bit more of a cyborg, cause android tends to more imply...well, to borrow a Star Wars quote, it'd be "more machine than man."
just a simple blue screen of death lmao
This is the kind of game that deserves a remake to fix all the criticisms, quality of life improvements and to preserve all the things it got right and considering its a FromSoftware property they could attract much more players after the success of Miyazaki's games.
FANTASTIC video. I stumbled across my copy of "Echo Night Beyond" in a GameStop in 2006 for $4.99, and snapped it up right away since I'd heard nothing about it, but love horror gaming experiences. The idea that it now sells for hundreds and hundreds of dollars second-hand really threw me for a loop, although judging from the prices of the other two as seen in your earlier vids, I shouldn't have been shocked. I love this game, warts and all. Except for the platforming...that can go jump in a hole. But the story and the revelation that, oh yeah, by the way, you aren't really Richard, you've just been thinking you are this whole time because of that ring...HUGE kick in the head. Thank you so much for all the time and effort you took to make these Echo Night videos.
Wait, if it turns out we're an Android, then why do we have a heart monitor/die of shock?
This guy asking the real questions
major spoilers kinda really
my personal idea (its probably not canon but its how i think of it) is that claudia designed kenneth before richard, and therefore kenneth doesnt have the shock/heart monitor technology richard does. this kinda makes it so richard seems more human until you learn hes an android. yeah this sounds kinda like an excuse but i dont think theres any canon reason for this so im just like its free real estate shskdnsk
@@starvale2933 Doesn't really make sense though, what purpose would a heart rate have? A battery for life support makes more sense, and those flashlight batteries could be a dual purpose item, do you refill your health or your flashlight, and it would still keep the intrigue without causing a plot-hole. Plus it would eliminate the annoying need to leave the room whenever you find a hostile ghost as a proper health system means you can risk it or play it safe.
To be fair a human being would die long before their heart rate reached 300bpm
@@Ballade90 ngl you do have a huge point tho. that idea genuinely makes a lot more sense tbh
Dang, these graphics look like an early small budget PS3 game.
That was such a beautiful story. Also, that part with the teasing about not finding the letter heading was hilarious.
This video just really makes me want to just port some old games to newer consoles. So many games that could be given new life that just aren't because nobody can play them in an affordable capacity. Some have never been released outside of Japan! That speech about game preservation really resonates with me, since it frustrates me as well, so many amazing games that hundreds of thousands of people want to play are locked on older consoles. It almost makes me want to start up my own company to port these games.
I am interested in playing so many of the games NitroRad has talked about in these Halloween specials Fatal Frame , Silent Hill, Siren, Clock Tower, Haunting Ground, Rule of Rose, and now Echo Night. These games look interesting and I would love to play them. But I can't, they're all either absurdly expensive, hard to get a hold of, not localized, or have really bad ports on that are almost two generations old. And it's not even just these games.
For Example:
I am a big fan of Fire Emblem, but playing most of the games is an exercise for your wallet. Only the 3DS games and Three Houses are reasonable to purchase. You are at MINIMUM paying original retail price. But Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance will run you anywhere from $150-$300. Its sequel is cheaper, but that runs anywhere from $60-$90. I'm glad I got my copy of Radiance back when it was $110. It's absurd that a series that so wildly popular now (Three Houses sold over 3 million units) to have entries that expensive. The main character of those games Ike is one of the most popular characters in the entire series. It makes no sense why they haven't ported them. And you can't even get almost half of the games here in North America.
Popular series have titles you can't play anymore. It's so maddening, I just want to do something about it.
How James talks so passionately about the game's plot and themes.... That's why Nitro Rad is one of my favourites youtube channels, you deserve all the success in the world, mate!
Totally agree with your last point about preservation of video games. There was a brilliant GDC talk about this and it raises many valid points as to why it should be more readily available and the harm it is doing by not supporting old software.
For anyone wondering the GDC title is "It's Just Emulation!" - The Challenge of Selling Old Games. Enjoy! ^^
I just have to say, I love your channel so much! It's almost comforting oddly enough.
I love the intro and outros, it's like coming home and seeing an old friend I'd say..
I know the video was long but when I'm watching I don't even realise the length of it until it's over.
You're doing a great job 😊
I love you are making the timestamps now!
I always watch your videos from beginning to end, but hopefully this will make videos more accessible for other kind of public too!
Oh yeah that intro looks gorgeous. Never played "Beyond". Was always intrigued.
6:00 Eddie's Pizza scene at Pete's Bowl-o-Rama music from Silent Hill 2, just down pitched/tempo'd. :) And it keeps playing through the clip.
Nice series, man. Never heard of these so it was a treat to have you share them.
I wanted to leave a comment because this is litteraly one of my favourite review. I love your horror game videos they are somehow so entertaining and engaging. I replay them quite often when I need to relax or something nice to listen to when I work.
Keep being that very chill and open minded person you are in your vids !
I'm not really a huge fan of these types of adventure games but this game looks awesome. I really like the exploring a desolate space station and trying to figure out why. Its a shame it has so many problems though. Id be cool if fromsoftware remade this one because this does look like an awesome.
I feel like im finally apart of the cool kids club for once, because i get to watch this before the notification squad.
This is my absolute favourite Echo Night game, warts and all, but you are spot on with how the backtracking and super hidden critical item stuff in this game can be exhausting at best, to say NOTHING of that AWFUL jump. Still, I'm so glad to see this game get shown to more people. I hope people give it a shot for themselves because there is a genuinely super compelling story here.
Wow. Your exposition about death, and taking the memories we make with us when we pass toward the end of your video was so deep. Definitely worth thinking about.
The way you talk about the ending... *shed a joyful tear in unus annus*
God... the more I keep rewatching this video, the more I keep going "If I ever did a VR project, it would be THIS." Virtually all of it screams "This could be remastered in VR and it'd work." Hell, I've played VR games with a heart rate monitor, and that would be SERIOUSLY intense if I could merge that in as an extra: you can stay alive longer in the game if you, yourself, keep calm, but if you don't, you'll make it harder.
Hey man. Fantastic video as always. I've not played most of the games you talk about on this channel but its a highlight of any given day when I see a new video from you in my feed. Being able to experience these games through your eyes is interesting as hell, it makes me want to branch out and try new things. Anyway that's all I have to say. Keep it up and I can't wait for the next one!
Great Video. Also I love the addition of the video chapters. Nice video quality of life.
Yeah game preservation is an important subject we REALLY need to have.
Might want to get in contact with Ross Scott of Accursed Farms, he’s been championing video game preservation for a while
Thank you for making a video about this game. The story, symbolism, the atmosphere, that intro. It's all so beautiful, so powerful. Fantastic video. It might be one of your best works
Awesome video as always. I love your videos on the echo night series.
I believe emulation serves not as a band aid for game preservation, but as the ultimate solution. Intellectual property holders should honestly be forced to allow games that are released on hardware that is no longer sold to be emulated. And if i'm being honest, they should even assist with the development of the emulators.
Aside from some sparse examples here and there, emulation is generally better in every way compared to original hardware anyway. So even if they DO release old software on new hardware, 80% of the time, it's still emulated, AND is still worse than what I could be playing on my PC regardless of how cheap the rerelease is. Like bro, I got nintendo switch online, and I have all these fun games that I can play for free as part of the service, but despite already having access to those games, I still choose to play them on my PC because the experience is still way better. For example, super dodge ball does NOT slow down nearly as much on my PC as it does on the switch.
I legitimately can't imagine playing an HD remake of Smash bros. Melee when dolphin exists. Like yeah, the game might have improvements to the graphics, but knowing nintendo, they'll remove things that I enjoyed about the game that they deem to be "bugs". And shit man, on dolphin I still get better graphics than the original on GC, PLUS the ability to use my preferred controller, access to mod support, better compatibility with different displays, and even improved performance in games that chugged on native hardware (and will still likely chug on the often underpowered current hardware). Not to mention, that making these remasters isn't really preservation anyway, it's literally a completely different release.
I just think emulation and even piracy of old games should be looked at differently. The potential for companies to lose imaginary money should not outweigh the preservation of the software, and efforts to ban piracy of old games (and arguably even new games) takes away all incentive for companies to make compelling re-releases.
So in otherwards. Nintendo needs to be forced to go 3rd party.
@@GatorRay no. They can put whatever restrictions they want on their current games, but players should be allowed to pirate games that are no longer sold on their original hardware by the property holder. I say this because re-releasing old games as ports does not promote actually improving the game, or good business practice, it's almost always a shit port running on an emulator anyway, and the potential for them to "maybe" re-sell these games in the future with no real improvements gives these companies leverage to use in their dumbfuck ongoing legal battle against pirating old games and 3rd party emulators as a whole by claiming they "take away a significant portion of their revenue"
Considering these ports are almost always complete trash, this is revenue that they probably shouldn't even have access to in the first place.
On top of that, official rereleases are fucking horrible for "preservation". They only port one version of the game without giving players access to older patches, they often make a "NEW" "BETTER" version of the game with updated button prompts for modern consoles, upscaled textures, or fixed bugs and spelling errors. And if that's a suitable substitute for the much more professionally handled preservation efforts of sites like sega-retro, emuparadise, and wikipedia, then you are blinded by your love for unfeeling megacorporations.
@@sauzeefy I was joking because I agree with you.
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Your mind is so powerful.
How is your comment from 3 hours ago when this video was posted 3 minutes ago?
@@kasuyo69 I think if you're a patreon you get videos early
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WOO! New Nitro Rad video! Thanks for posting these - it's always fun watching your videos and seeing games that I'd never even heard of going into an in-depth review.
Also WOW 40 minutes?? This isn't just a Halloween Special; it's a Christmas gift!!
I just want to say that i really enjoy your horror videos. hope more are to come. Found your channel last week with a Siren video
Anyone else thinks he should cover lost in vivo? I think he'd really like the game
I spent 400+ on the silent hill series. And I agree with nitro here. Games need to be properly catalouged so people don't have to spend 400 bucks to play a game series. Great video and I may just check this out someday when I have cash to spare. But not today.
That was amazing; both the scripting/editing for the video in question AND the in-game story well told.
I know this took you a longer time than you expected but I just want you to know: it was 100% worth the wait my dude.
Also YES on the games preservation; that junk is frustrating as hell!
This was a beautiful video, man. Fantastic work, keep it up! You're amazing 👍
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Insulting a ghost that can't find an earring while missing a roll of tape 🙄😂😂
Dude this is awesome, especially coming out on my birthday. This really makes my day.
every time you talk about this series it always sounds so genuine, not to say you arent always, but it just seems so sincere and heartfelt and i really like that