1980s Retro Hard drives

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  • čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
  • Some old early 1980s hard drives I wanted to show people before they are scraped.

Komentáře • 142

  • @kimmer6
    @kimmer6 Před 7 lety +67

    In the early 80's while working for General Electric Company I helped take apart a main frame computer in San Jose, Ca. It was sold to another company and we tagged cables and components. I recall a bolted together aluminum vessel about 30 inches in diameter and about 3 feet tall. Other people had mentioned that it was some kind of memory that spins in a vacuum. I think looking back that it was a hard drive. I recall that it was ''150K''.
    Later on in the 90's I was doing a job in a local refinery and mentioned that my new computer had a 1 Gigabyte hard drive. Two or 3 people told me that I was stupid, there was no such thing as a hard drive that big. I paid $300 for the hard drive alone. Funny, just yesterday I put in a 64 Gig micro SD into my phone. It cost $16 from eBay with free delivery.

    • @petergathercole4565
      @petergathercole4565 Před 6 lety +10

      Late to reply, I know, but the device you're describing was probably a magnetic drum.
      It would have been a cylinder spinning on it's axis, with the magnetic coating on the outside, and a number of fixed heads arranged around the outside in various places, reading and writing the magnetic surface as it span.
      They had a number of speed advantages compared to a disk, because you had no seek time (just the rotational latency), and no voice coil or stepper motor to move the heads across the surface, so they were often used as 'fast' swap space for systems.
      Were a lot more expensive, though, because of the number of heads and the electronics to drive them.

    • @Rabiiid
      @Rabiiid Před 2 lety +1

      I bought a 8TB for $180, So for the $300 you said plus inflation is around $630 our time in the right now, Thats A stupid ammount of memory. I dont know we could prob get a small server for that price. Im guessing 35TB? :D Hi, It almost 2022 :p

    • @kimmer6
      @kimmer6 Před 2 lety +1

      @@petergathercole4565 Yup, could have been. It was taken apart and the whole facility was sent to France.

    • @kimmer6
      @kimmer6 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Rabiiid When I worked in a refinery in 1997, I had a computer built by a tech friend who put in a 1GB hard drive. Everybody in the lunch room said that I was lying because NOBODY has a gigantic 1GB. Around that time hard drives were selling for $300 a Gigabyte.

    • @kyiscray
      @kyiscray Před 3 měsíci

      Funny, these days people think I'm crazy for having a 20tb hard drive, probably won't be worth anything in 20 years

  • @raf.nogueira
    @raf.nogueira Před 7 lety +37

    I even can imagine what kind of information this drivers was , i wish we could recover , will be a travel in time just like seeing this.

    • @wellingtonsanissimo8703
      @wellingtonsanissimo8703 Před 3 lety +2

      there is a company that could easily recover the data lol, they've recovered data from completely burnt HDD's from the 60s

  • @AiOinc1
    @AiOinc1 Před rokem +2

    I watched this video for the first time probably a decade ago, and now I own good examples of all three drives in the video. The Seagate ST-412 and Miniscribe 2012 are of course fairly common, but the Texas Instruments TI-5 is certainly a more difficult drive to come across. If it looks familiar, it's because they licensed production of the Seagate ST-506. The Miniscribe 2012 was most modern in 1981 or 1982, though I believe they did continue to sell until some time in 1983.
    4:49 This is actually just the slider, whose job is to catch the air and lift away from the platter while it spins. The head is traditionally attached to one end of this, the trailing edge.
    Interestingly, because these drives both know and care so little about their functioning state, you could surely still seek that ST-412 around without trouble. I doubt those platters will hold much data if there's water ingress, though. It does seem to have a problem, though, as it never attempts to seek to cylinder 0. The stepper is probably damaged.

  • @HelloKittyFanMan
    @HelloKittyFanMan Před rokem +1

    Holy CRUD, re that heavily weathered drive!
    -- "Now, that hard drive's in pretty rough shape."
    Oh my goodness, you're not kidding!

  • @MrCrazy-R
    @MrCrazy-R Před 8 lety +20

    kids will think this was made a day after life was on earth.

    • @FriKuShAxP
      @FriKuShAxP Před 7 lety +1

      kids will think this is part of old steam locomotive computer

    • @RobBob555
      @RobBob555 Před 7 lety +1

      modest too eh ?
      heres some advice that will keep you good for life ...no one likes a show off..

  • @80sCompaqPC
    @80sCompaqPC Před 5 lety +6

    While the TI and Miniscribe drives in this video were pretty much done for, that ST-412 was still very nice on the inside and would have made a beautiful display piece.

  • @honkhonkler7732
    @honkhonkler7732 Před 7 lety +13

    The oldest hard drive I ever used was an 800MB Quantum that came with my first computer. Dell Optiplex of some kind, Pentium 133MHz 16MB of RAM.

    • @octavegalibert2160
      @octavegalibert2160 Před 7 lety

      Marcus Cook look unreal

    • @WAQWBrentwood
      @WAQWBrentwood Před 7 lety

      Marcus Cook The first hard drive I had was a 10Mb in an IBM PC-XT, and that was my THIRD computer! LOL, Yes I'm old!

    • @richarddalton5191
      @richarddalton5191 Před 7 lety

      Marcus Cook My first PC had a 10mb hhd,ran at a blazing 3khz with an awesome 665k memory,the internet was a DOS prompt no GUI,oh the days of true challenges

    • @alexsinclair2012
      @alexsinclair2012 Před 7 lety

      Mine is a full height 15 MB, MFM in a Tandy external hard drive from the late 70's...

    • @tophatv2902
      @tophatv2902 Před 6 lety

      Alex Sinclair I got 40 mb one.How much can I sell it for?

  • @megabojan1993
    @megabojan1993 Před 8 lety +33

    Dirtiest hard drives I've seen to date :)

    • @randywatson8347
      @randywatson8347 Před 8 lety +7

      +MegaBojan1993
      Old is not an excuse... it's simply left to rust and die. It didn't had to.

  • @TheCRTman
    @TheCRTman Před 10 lety +32

    Those poor hard drives! How did you find these in a trash heap? At least the Seagate runs.

    • @realgroovy24
      @realgroovy24 Před 10 lety

      it was sadly scrapped though (as in description) but they were failed so im not that worried i still would have kept the Seagate as the stepper motor is still good the rest i would have scrapped. unless they had the motors in it too.

    • @TheCRTman
      @TheCRTman Před 10 lety

      realgroovy24 tech What can anyone gain from scrapping a hard drive??

    • @realgroovy24
      @realgroovy24 Před 10 lety

      the metals inside scrappers can get a bid of mnoey out of old drives like when i went to one and they had hundreds of drives lines up (most were from servers)

    • @TheCRTman
      @TheCRTman Před 10 lety +8

      realgroovy24 tech Wow. All people care about today is money. I would have kept the seagate.

    • @asdf_
      @asdf_ Před 9 lety

      +TheCRTman IKR.

  • @Sunnyskyguy
    @Sunnyskyguy Před 7 lety +3

    I used to design tests to qualify all these Drives ST506 ST-212 but my favorite was the MAXTOR , (R2D2) amazing servo and I had S.N. 8.. Dozens of different companies from Japan and USA

  • @tylerdimedio3740
    @tylerdimedio3740 Před 4 lety +2

    Ah the 80s where hard drives were built better than today's cars

  • @workonesabs
    @workonesabs Před 8 lety +2

    I worked in Newbury Data's HDD clean room for a few weeks in the early 90's. Put them together and tested them. Capacity then was around 80MB, although we had a 320mb one on our 286 PC. Which was a massive HDD then, when the School I went to only had a 10MB total, I never filled it up as it was so huge back then...

    • @Tech101yt
      @Tech101yt Před 4 lety

      Is that Newbury in England?

    • @workonesabs
      @workonesabs Před 4 lety

      @@Tech101yt Newbury Data in Winsford, though there were several around the UK.

  • @daves.9479
    @daves.9479 Před 7 lety +1

    Remember "stiction" in the 40MB Seagates? I used to power up the PC clone and then use my thumb to rotate the end of the motor shaft to get it unstuck. It'd then spin up and work normally.

  • @HelloKittyFanMan
    @HelloKittyFanMan Před rokem

    "This one _was_ a Texas Instruments. Unfortunately it was stripped years ago."
    It still IS one. Just because something loses a part or few doesn't make it magically lose its model identity.

  • @peterparsons3297
    @peterparsons3297 Před rokem

    i remember the early SASY, RLL and MFM drives from my early years as a server tech, using DEBUG and low level formatting them.

  • @darkmasterm4462
    @darkmasterm4462 Před 7 lety +5

    even old electronic tek can sit out in the weather for years and still run. some people are glad to have a graphics card work for more then a year. they dont make anything like they used too

    • @absterthedabster8628
      @absterthedabster8628 Před 4 lety

      Darkmaster M44 maybe stop buying non brand GPUs and get good ones, I had my old GPU last me 7 years. Nowadays things are smaller and more compact and finicky, you can’t just slap on a diesel motor on and have some piece of metal and call that a HDD anymore.

    • @AiOinc1
      @AiOinc1 Před 4 lety

      @@absterthedabster8628 "You're just buying the wrong ones if they don't work" is a terrible argument. Even cheapass hard disks of that era still work. Miniscribe occasionally shipped BRICKS instead of hard disks and a significant portion of their drives still survive to this day. There are even CMI drives out there that still work.
      An SSD of any quality *will* fail eventually, they have a finite lifespan. A mechanical hard disk, especially ones as crude as these, can go on forever if they're taken care of. If you keep them exercised, lubricated, and don't run them hot or jerk them around they will continue on indefinitely. The flash memory in a modern SSD will eventually degrade to the point it becomes useless and the drive will have to be thrown out.
      It's not a matter of buying the cheapest one, it's that everything is so cheap these days it's become disposable.

    • @davidbolha
      @davidbolha Před 3 lety

      Call it Consumerism or Planned Obsolence. 😶🙄

  • @aimless3827
    @aimless3827 Před 3 lety +1

    Back in the day it was really cool as my dad said, Now one arduino can make hdd like this.

  • @SammeLagom
    @SammeLagom Před 7 lety +4

    Found in a river?? :D

  • @antosiekyt2936
    @antosiekyt2936 Před 4 lety

    I like retro computers, old hard disk drives too :)

  • @Maskddingo
    @Maskddingo Před 5 lety +5

    "there was water inside" - Yikes!

  • @HelloKittyFanMan
    @HelloKittyFanMan Před rokem

    Hmm, I'm not used to seeing hard drives that work more like floppy drives than modern ones do. I think it'd be funny to see someone cobble up some kind of floppy drive (like a Zip or standard one) with a swinging head arm like today's hard drives have; take off the disk jacket and make it... well... kind of work... at least a little, haha!

  • @tripmmeister3675
    @tripmmeister3675 Před 3 lety

    This is cool

  • @themaritimegirl
    @themaritimegirl Před 8 lety +9

    Are you CZcams user kurtscottage? If not, you sound exactly like him!
    Edit: Oh, you are! Cool!

  • @HelloKittyFanMan
    @HelloKittyFanMan Před rokem

    "In the rain _and_ the weather"? When did rain supposedly become something "different" from a type of weather?

  • @1959Berre
    @1959Berre Před 6 lety

    I used to sell these drives; very expensive stuff in those days.

  • @DeStorMification
    @DeStorMification Před 8 lety +6

    probably still reads

  • @ionhunter
    @ionhunter Před 7 lety

    I miss that sound.

  • @80sCompaqPC
    @80sCompaqPC Před 11 lety +1

    I love the seagate st 412

  • @wizardnotknown
    @wizardnotknown Před 3 lety

    Tovarich throw at them some spinning HardDrives.

  • @realgroovy24
    @realgroovy24 Před 10 lety

    that last drive at 4:26 looks like it has beem submerged underwater for a year or 2 it would possibly look like that if it was made of aluminium which wot rust

  • @zx8401ztv
    @zx8401ztv Před 12 lety +2

    Ye olde steam powered drives :-)
    I used to run drives like those years ago on my xt machine with a westerndigital mfm card.
    21 mb on a hdd, oooooooowww lol.

  • @njgriebel
    @njgriebel Před 6 lety

    Good thing youve got a fire alarm up there..

  • @FAMICOMASTER
    @FAMICOMASTER Před 11 lety +3

    5:12 please make a video on them!

  • @vinnytheplayer5500
    @vinnytheplayer5500 Před 3 lety

    I sadly broke my 2003 40gb hdd when opening it where the needle broke off

  • @HotForgeChaos
    @HotForgeChaos Před 9 lety

    You can see how Miniscribe nearly got away with shipping bricks instead of hard drives and recalling them instead of shipping them out. Until someone squealed....

    • @televisionandcheese
      @televisionandcheese Před 9 lety +1

      Reflex Photography NZ The Bricks probably had more storage space than the hard drives themselves!

    • @HotForgeChaos
      @HotForgeChaos Před 9 lety +1

      television and cheese About as much use as a brick as well. I don't think they were particularly reliable either

  • @MekazaBitrusty
    @MekazaBitrusty Před 7 lety +1

    Cool video but if your plan is to restore the computer or use the hard drives, I would think opening them would not be the best idea, let alone dragging your fingers on the platters.

    • @AiOinc1
      @AiOinc1 Před rokem

      He mentions that the drive had water inside lol

  • @MurphyTheGamer4life
    @MurphyTheGamer4life Před 7 lety +1

    was there any data on the working hard drive?

  • @cdos9186
    @cdos9186 Před 5 lety

    It is sad that what people are doing is throwing away a piece of history. Also for the people who say "It's useless" and things like that are the type of people to buy a new computer every single year. Think about it, in 10 years i'm sure about 95% of the people on the internet are going to throw away their old computers like they are junk. The thing about old technology is that it is a part of our history, and people that throw away WORKING things are throwing away our history. Think about it, people smash old hard drives that are 10 years old, when everyone does this, there is no more of these left anymore for people to have and when you do that there is no trace of that model of hard drive to be left. Think about old Miniscribe hard drives, most people find these in their homes and think of it as ABSOLUTE JUNK, but when you have thousands of people throwing old hard drives away and there WILL be a point where there is not a single one left to exist. Think about your computer you are using right now, you are just going to throw it away in 10 years so how does that make you feel? When you throw away a old hard drive that works fine there will be a point in time where not a single one of that model will exist anymore. This is what makes things like 80's hard drives so rare, a decade later everyone is throwing things like this away. By keeping these things you are preserving a part of history from that time period, and when everyone throws away their old hard drives and everyone that have used them dies, there is not a physical piece of history to be left. There may still be hard drives like these in the world like the Seagate ST-157A, but in 50 years I doubt anyone will have one and the only way you can change that is by keeping your old computers and hard drives and in 50 years be able to show your kids what it was like when you were around. In 50 years it is going to be like this, "12TB? That is really small!" remember when 1GB was enough to live on in the mid 90's? When you keep unique old things you are preserving history, and that is what Technology Museums are for, to preserve people inventions and show what they were like in that time period. If you read this whole what feels like a essay, I hope you think differently the next time you go to throw away your old computer or smash your old HDD because it is "Useless to you".

  • @ratedasmr7811
    @ratedasmr7811 Před 3 lety

    You sound just like New England wildlife & more

  • @ٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴ7

    Gonna make a game console and i am using a 1990's maxtor hard drive!

  • @FAMICOMASTER
    @FAMICOMASTER Před 11 lety

    where did you get these?
    and where can I get some of my own?

  • @amiralingames
    @amiralingames Před 2 lety

    You should run minecraft with shaders on it lol

  • @IvanDCosta12
    @IvanDCosta12 Před 3 lety

    Does it have a sata interface ?

  • @mrjason9382
    @mrjason9382 Před 6 lety

    Nice

  • @namilily3847
    @namilily3847 Před 3 lety

    Thats a lot of homework data

  • @HelloKittyFanMan
    @HelloKittyFanMan Před rokem

    "The motor might be all right."
    * motorS

  • @SnyderColorcast
    @SnyderColorcast Před 9 lety

    Cool.

  • @lhuser
    @lhuser Před 7 lety

    If the heads were parked and water didn't seep in, maybe, just maybe, it would've worked just as well.

  • @irmada1707
    @irmada1707 Před 2 lety

    Keren banget

  • @Thethingsmaker-a
    @Thethingsmaker-a Před 3 měsíci

    I want the seagate

  • @FrustratedBaboon
    @FrustratedBaboon Před 7 lety

    your gonna find software after rubbing your hands all over the platters ?

  • @thepenultimateninja5797

    Just run SanDisk on that Mini Scribe, it will be fine.
    Maybe a few bad sectors

  • @Qardo
    @Qardo Před 7 lety

    Proof Seagates can outlast time itself. Anyone wondering how well a Seagate is. This is proof from an early age.

  • @johnlewisbrooks
    @johnlewisbrooks Před 3 lety

    Sounds more like an angle grinder.

  • @Mastergeko4
    @Mastergeko4 Před 5 lety +2

    looks like they came from a lake.
    Poor vintage tech.

  • @rickhall3578
    @rickhall3578 Před 6 lety

    sounds like a grinder

  • @purparyumi-raimyura-2
    @purparyumi-raimyura-2 Před 4 lety

    Damnnnn 🤮. This guy is brave to run that hard disk. SOUNDS like a grinder..
    Also please wear gloves while touching those.

  • @davidbolha
    @davidbolha Před 3 lety

    If they work they could be sold for good money off eBay. 😏👌🖒😉😏

  • @FAMICOMASTER
    @FAMICOMASTER Před 11 lety

    I paused at 4:09 and said "Hey guys! come check this out! some guy on youtube found a really old HDD and I bet its going to look brand new inside!"
    presses play
    O_o that poore HDD!!!!!!
    email me more pics and notify me if you get more!

  • @HelloKittyFanMan
    @HelloKittyFanMan Před rokem

    Ha, you said it "works"? It's not really gonna work if you get your fingerprints on it like that! If you haven't shown us data access then I wouldn't say it works.

  • @zaprodk
    @zaprodk Před 9 lety +2

    Why do you want to "scrape" it ?

    • @Boxtentoo
      @Boxtentoo Před 8 lety

      +zaprodk its "scrap" and you can get parts and sell them

    • @zaprodk
      @zaprodk Před 8 lety +1

      +Boxtentoo 112 If it to "scrap" them (scrapped in plural), then fix the video description.

    • @Boxtentoo
      @Boxtentoo Před 8 lety

      ***** Its ment to say scrapped, its a typo.

  • @aliendbanin
    @aliendbanin Před 2 lety

    كيف يخزن البيانات

  • @OmegaHellHound543
    @OmegaHellHound543 Před 4 lety

    2:04 really?? Don’t touch that shit. Those things are hard to come across. Do not destroy that

    • @elgeneralxx
      @elgeneralxx Před 4 lety

      Hey is the first one suppose to have a burn mark on the platter?

    • @OmegaHellHound543
      @OmegaHellHound543 Před 4 lety

      It’s a different color than the newer ones. You still shouldn’t touch it tho.

    • @elgeneralxx
      @elgeneralxx Před 4 lety

      @@OmegaHellHound543 i have a seagate st-225n with that color and i cant get it to recognize on my old macintosh performa. Says it has bad sectors. I know not to touch it.

    • @OmegaHellHound543
      @OmegaHellHound543 Před 4 lety

      2 reasons not to touch it. 1: it’s vintage and you’re smearing all over it
      2: if it shatters, it’s gonna basically explode in your face, and blow your finger off

  • @InsanePsychoRabbit
    @InsanePsychoRabbit Před 7 lety

    Why were these old hard drives so big? And why were they built like brick shithouses?

    • @1959Berre
      @1959Berre Před 6 lety +1

      You have no idea how big hard drives really were before these ones. They were gigantic.

    • @80sCompaqPC
      @80sCompaqPC Před 5 lety +1

      Do you see how big *just* the spindle motor is on these? Components were much larger back then.
      I seem to remember seeing a comment from you somewhere else that full-height drives seemed like a “waste of space.” You seriously need to do some research on “computer evolution.”
      I personally love these big drives. I have some that are still working at almost 40-years-old. I bet no modern hard drives will still be working at that age.

  • @Baer9471
    @Baer9471 Před 3 lety

    Hell no you should not touch the disk Itself

  • @mrjason9382
    @mrjason9382 Před 6 lety

    Like

  • @user-ko1vv4zo8b
    @user-ko1vv4zo8b Před 6 lety

    *1980s Retro DEATH Hard Drives

  • @joe241able
    @joe241able Před 8 lety

    I know

  • @FAMICOMASTER
    @FAMICOMASTER Před 10 lety +1

    Hello again! :D I'm making a vid on my HDD collection, so check it out soon!
    Also, using a new (old, 2009) Ubuntu 14.04 LTS laptop!

  • @idontknow2054
    @idontknow2054 Před 8 lety

    I'll play CoD on this

  • @joe241able
    @joe241able Před 8 lety

    can this hdd run windows 10

  • @quack1119
    @quack1119 Před 3 lety

    4:10 What The F

  • @EFI79ful
    @EFI79ful Před 7 lety

    the 3rd hard drive is very bad but nice video

  • @RobBob555
    @RobBob555 Před 7 lety

    its funny to me that you think these are "really old" ... lol..