America’s Worst Accident | Boeing 727 Collides With a Cessna and Crashes Just Before Landing
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- čas přidán 25. 03. 2020
- Find out why Pacific Southwest Airlines Flight 182 operated with a Boeing 727 collided with a private Cessna 172 light aircraft over San Diego just moments before landing.
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"I guess"
"I hope"
Two phrases you NEVER want to hear in the cockpit of a commercial airliner.
@Robert Murphy - As well as "Probably" and "Suppose to be."
I guess when you're flying inside a huge airplane and you see a little one, your mind tells you that you've already overtaken it or flown beyond that little plane's capabilities. They saw it, then could no longer see it. Their brains probably told them, "we have to have already flown beyond that little airplane's capabilities." But they could not account for the physics involved in the angle of attack, altitude, etc. They just assumed they must have flown beyond that little airplane's capabilities. Regardless, the date of death was that day for all involved, including those seven people on the ground.
I guess the gear is down...
I hope there's no traffic ahead.
Let's land this thing!
@@pittmanfh even pilots are human
yes why were they so dumb? you can't be fine with an "i hope"!!
“This is it baby”. Very, very sad.
Heartwrenching...live half mile from contact point
The Co-Pilot Said That
The Captain Said: Ma, I Love You
Its so Heartbreaking
@@alexeinshnymiscarinokorovi4029 that is what everyone in the comment section says, yeah.
@@alexeinshnymiscarinokorovi4029 That was the captain saying "This is it baby".
Ya I think I'd rather be in the Cessna those poor guys in the passenger jet had time to think about their imminent death 😥
I remeber the cvr. The last recorded voice on the psa cockpit was: "Ma, I love you."
I've heard that recording as well. Listening to what you know were someone's last words spoken on this Earth is heartbreaking enough, but that young man's last words were (and are) absolutely gut wrenching 😖 Good Lord, I can't imagine how his poor Mother felt when she heard it. RIP to all who lost their lives that horrible morning 🙏😞
🤧🤧🤧🤧
Oof
Why didn't they even try to avoid it? They just left auto pilot on.. wtf. This is so sad.
The early reporting of the crash said a flight attendant was in the cockpit flirting with the pilots, who also seemed to joke a little about the possibility of plane nearby. This crash was must have been one of the incidents that started the sterile cockpit rule.
Just 4 words communicated to the ATC needed - "Don't see the Cessna"
Or "Traffic Not In Sight"
They saw it but got distracted and lost site of it
@@PInk77W1 And they should have told ATC they lost sight of it when they did.
JGSHEW absolutely.
That is very probably why the most of the blame was put on the crew of 182. Despite everything else that went on, they ultimately failed to see and avoid the Cessna, and failed to make it clear to the tower that they had lost sight of it. I suspect that, if they had done and the crash had still occurred, then the majority of the blame would have been put on the Cessna for failing to maintain their assigned heading and on air traffic control for failing to maintain a complete view of the developing situation. There were a lot of failings here, but ultimately those of the crew of 182 have to be taken as being the most serious...
My brother was the first San Diego City employee on scene. My brother in law, a PSA employee scheduled all the Deadheads. Both were affected greatly by the incident. The stress may have set up my brother in laws death 5 years later. The ramifications of tragedies like these goes beyond the accident itself.
My condolences to you for your brother in law. There's no doubt in my mind that tragedies like this one affect those besides just the families of the passengers.
David Larson What are Deadheads?
Leslies Lovelies Airline employees traveling to their base airport or to their home.
David Larson you are so very right! No one ever considers the mental and emotional toll that 1st responders have, even all through their lives. Our police officer, and fire fighters are the exact same way. I was once married to an officer, and even today, though he is now retired, some shootings, car accidents, motor cycle crashes, and plane crashes (I Vietnam his job was on a helicopter), still causes him to have nightmares. My respect, thoughts and prayers go out to those who respond and investigate along with the pilots, crew, lives lost and the families.
@@leslieslovelies6268 Non-revenue passengers (usually company employees who are along for the ride).
"This is it baby" that man had ice in his veins. That's a stone cold mfkr. Stared death in the face and was ready
And theres nothing he can do
11:16 poor dude he lost all hope
And yet, just as the video tells us, he negligently did n't follow protocol of maintaining visual contact that resulted in the deaths of scores of people. So he stared at the deaths of many innocent people. He was not the hero you seem to want to make him.
@@generalyellor2187 nobodys perfect
@@generalyellor2187 thats because of how the cockpit designed the entire headsup display and instrument and in front and below you you cant see anything.
I was in flight training at NAS Lemore, CA when this collision occurred. It was heart breaking. And my instructor spent many hours of lecture time discussing this accident and the probable causes. Then he talked about variations of how this happened and how to avoid them. It was a great teaching/learning lesson(s) that all his students took to heart and memorized.
3 years later, this accident and the focus my instructor had on this very accident saved my life when I was able to avoid a mid-air with a CHP twin Piper who never saw me. Long story, but we avoided crashing.
Thanks for a great video!! Very well done!
Rest In Peace all the victims of this terrible crash. 🙏
Thank God you safely made it out in ONE PIECE SIR!!!!
But I want to hear this story, Mr Reid.
lmao "Bigdaddy"
Let’s hear the story!!
@@TheJingles007 lmao “Chuck Norris” and “Big Daddy” 😂❤️
I have seen a few other renditions of this collision and it puts a knot in my stomach every single time. This was an excellent presentation. Terrific graphics. Much appreciate what you are putting out.
The PSA "Catch My Smile" livery back then was cute. It's a big, happy, grinning plane. Which kind of makes this crash all the more eerie.
There is a recording of ATC calling 182 over and over again and you can tell he's crying. Just horrible, all crashes are.
A Frustrated Gamer being old enough to remember the news stories probably?
Is there a link? Searched for this and cant find it
Link, please?
Leaving a comment in case someone give the link
Hey rob...a link buddy?
9:05
First Officer says: "Are we clear of that Cessna?"
Flight Engineer answers: " *Supposed* to be "
The Captain says: " I *guess* "
Jumpseat Occupant says: " I *hope* "
Captain states: "............ *probably* behind us now"
None of them bothering to positively answer the the First Officer's question, killed 144 people that day.
I agree with you.
Plenty of other holes in the cheese but they were the only professional airline pilots in the scenario.
What a captain.....RIP
That's because none of them knew 100% if they cleared the Cessna
A friend of mine lost an uncle on the flight and I believe he was the guy in the jump seat.
Yeah, I really don't understand if they do not know where it is, why be so unconcern about it.
The CVR was straight up sad though... “mom I love you” just breaks my heart
What about his Dad?
and “This is it, baby”
Richard G they were probably gonna say it but they might of not had the time to fit it all in
@@aaptyp No, he also said "I love you ma." They just didn't include it here.
Where you hear, "mom I love you"? I hear the caption saying, " this is it baby"
The helpless feeling of passengers and crew knowing that there's nothing that can be done to save the situation. How absolutely horrible
I agree. Imagine being seated in a window seat near that flaming wreckage of what used to be a wing. Feeling the G's as the whole plane turns that direction and falls. Speed increases and the ground rising to meet you. Damn RIP
They had just enough time to know they were goin down 😢
They pulled the elevator and pushed the ailerons to the left.
If only the airline captain had said, "We're aborting landing. Not sure of clearance with other plane. Making drastic turn away from possible collision. We'll come back around after determining all clear!" If only...So sorry for all who perished.
This may be 2 years after you posted this but, I was there and I saw the Cessna and PSA 182 right over my head. I heard the hit and we all thought 2 planes were involved at first. It obliterated the Cessna 172 instantly on impact and 182 was on fire. The sound was a horrible whistling, engine scream. You could see the people on board 182. Close enough to see them in the windows. Everyone came outside hearing this sound but I was outside before the plane was in view as my aunt had just arrived for a visit and she lived in North Park. We lived near the airport and we were right in the flight path. The plane was so low and we thought it was going to crash in Murphy Canyon where we lived. It crashed 6.9 miles from our home in North Park. I will never forget the horrible sights and sounds from that day. The faces of passengers looking frantically out of the windows. I was just 16 years old. I'll never ever forget what I heard and saw that day. Not ever. San Diego was in a state of shock. It was very sad and surreal. No one said much on passing days. It was just shock all over the city. Like a blanket of death. I can't explain it better than that. There were bodies everywhere and landing everywhere. It was like a horrific war zone. Police and military had to guard the crash site because of looters. This is a much bigger story than people who were not there will ever know. God bless the people who lost family that terrible day. I know San Diego will never forget any of them. At the time, PSA flight 182 was the worst aviation crash in American history. Now, at age 60, it's still like yesterday for me and so many others.
You very correctly described this. I was 15 when it happened. In between classes at Helix High School. We stood outside the girl's locker room, wondering what caused the sudden plume of black smoke. My classmate Janice Fox was the pilot's daughter. She had no idea in those moments that was her dad. So sad 😞 I am 60 now and still remember it like it was yesterday. Last September was the 45th anniversary. I had several friends at St. Augustine High School, and they told me how terrifying it was to see it plunge, afraid it was going to hit them.
God bless you for having gone through that and having to go over it again in your comment. It's such a touching tragic event. I can't imagine the nightmares you have from that day.
The moment when the cap said "This is it baby", and right at that moment that music kicks in, sent a chill through my spine!
Excellent choice of music sir
Yes, such pretty music.
Was on the flight deck on board USS CONSTELLATION CV-64 when this occurred, I yelled out to whom ever could hear me and we all seen both aircraft crashing, before they hit the ground I quickly said a prayer for all. The next day we departed for West Pac 78-79... Air Dept. V-1 div. Fly-3.
Tango, I was part of VS-37 on that Westpac. Ejection seat shop, final checker for the new S-3A's. I was standing in the Lemon Grove hardware store buying pipe to finish a plumbing job at the house. Lived in East San Diego, over looking Spring Valley. Watching this video made me cry. I'm an old man now. May the Lord shine his light on all that perished.
RIP
Bless you for seeing this live. Something you never probably get over.
you all should have given witness statements. can you describe what u saw?
I was ON WestPac, with HS-2 (CVW-14) aboard USS Enterprise (CVN-65) -- in port Olongapo having just gotten married; this happened on my wedding day. Of course HS-2 was based at North Island so this crash hit home, even though I was 9,000 miles away at the time.
A San Diego student at the time, I lived just a few miles from the crash site and I remember the sound and vibration of an explosion and when I walked outside I could see the smoke. It wasn't until a little while later I saw a news alert reporting on the accident. It definitely shook myself and our friends. RIP
oh my word, must have been chilling later to realize you heard and felt it
I remember this very well. I was 20, and working in a restaurant. A co-worker was well known for obsessing on bad things -- crimes, disasters etc. You bet he talked about this collision endlessly in the days following it.
The aftermath of this crash was featured in one of the Faces of Death movies. It was one of the most gruesome scenes ever witnessed by first responders with bodies and parts hanging on tree branches, cars and apartment buildings.
Yep seen that & it is horrible. Just basically body parts and meat everywhere and just total carnage
I've seen it. It's brutal. It is hard to wrap one's head around the damage done to a human body traveling at that speed into the ground and exploding. It was described as exploding like a grenade of shrapnel and body parts. Passengers (more accurately, what was left of them after impact) still strapped in their seats were blasted through walls and windows of homes and into cars and through their windshields. One report described first responders extracting a human torso from a car windshield and were shocked to find a woman and her infant still in the car alive with minor injuries and covered in blood. I've recently discovered this terrible crash (I was 8 when it happened) and find it fascinating and heartbreaking. For an airliner to crash into a residential neighborhood is a monumental tragedy. RIP to those lost and massive respect and healing to those tasked with the grim aftermath.
I was working the PSA arrival ramp when this happened I was a ramper with a commercial multi engine and flight Instructor rating.
I was working the gate that 182 was suppose to park at.
It was a hot clear day with unlimited visibility. We on the ramp got busy at about 9am as that was rush hour for us. being a commuter airline we had mostly a 30 minute turn around so we were all outside waiting. I remember that there was a C172 making practice instrument approaches coming in over the city on a back course approach then being vectored around out over ocean to make a front course ILS approach it was bad that Lindberg had the only instrument landing systems in the greater SanDiego Area (this changed after this crash) But at 9 am it seemed the C172 had departed the area.
Lindbergh field had a custom approach for jet airliners when the weather was clear it involved keeping the jets at above 4000 ft on their downwind so that small aircraft could cross the Lindbergh area between 3000 and 4000 ft It was loosely called "keep them High"
An airliner at that altitude has to lose a lot of altitude on turn to base and final and that kinda gave them (the jets) a slight nose high attitude so seeing ahead became harder. Coupling that with the fact that an airplane that is on a collision path with you will not appear to move on your windshield makes it much harder to see + their closure rate was almost 100 miles an hour.
The small airplane should not have been where it was but was directed there by ATC. The jet needed to have room to descend after being kept abnormally high on its downwind approach and the crew had a reasonable expectation that ATC would keep that area clear. I remember that PSA 766 was in that pattern as was a western airline jet and also a United jet.All this traffic was in the pattern and landed within 5 minutes of each other except for 182 it was Busy inside the airport traffic area an area that extended out 5miles horizontally and included airspace up to 2999feet AGL this area was controlled by the tower.
The Small plane should not have been put there by ATC. There should not have been a Keep them high approach for the airliner.
I could go on and on but all the rest of the stuff on that day and the few days that followed are still hard to talk about.
I have big gaps in my memory regarding the 3 plus days that we were up at the crash site they say shock causes that I dont know but plenty of the people I worked with up there had the same problem.
I really have not talked much about this after all these years but to lay the blame on these Dead crew members was wrong.
RIP all involved
Larry. This is not something that people can just "get over". You should talk to a therapist to help put your mind in the right frame to live at peace.
Daniel Miller some people can get over things quickly. This was a long long time ago.
Larry Stansbury I’m also a ramp agent ! I work for Alaska airlines \ horizon air 🙂. at LAX. It must have been crazy being at the gate, already to set up with the wands. Just for the lead to say “guys our plane crashed”
I think in retrospect the NTSB report was not critical enough of the system. Mixing small and large in visual conditions in a crowded air space is not maximal safety. I would have made that the primary cause of the crash. That said, it can't be completely ignored that the crew did not make it explicit to ATC they weren't sure if they spotted the traffic. Had they done so perhaps the crash would have been avoided.
@@cchris874
Yeah I totally agree with the first part of your comment.
On the second part I think the sterile cockpit was a great step in limiting non essential conversation in the critical phase of takeoff and landings. Personally after this accident I made it a real point when arriving at an airport VFR to get ATIS then tune to Tower to try and form a mental picture of what was going on in that airspace. ADSB In/out seems like a great addition to safety.Thanks for your comment
“THIS IS IT BABY!”
That flight crew had some massive balls!
adrenaline, and no time to think about it.
Sincerely Arden - without a doubt, they were traveling at about 300 mph.
@@kimb1579 Resolve? LOL He just killed off the passengers, crew and himself and left himself with no options but to die... I don't call that resolve...I call it gross negligence and death by stupid. Resolve would have been to see his error, see the plane in the distance and immediately take action to prevent many needless deaths...that didn't happen.
@@trondyne3513 Apparently you didn't watch the video carefully enough. The system was not safe enough at the time this happened. Yes, there were human errors, but made in both aircraft. To say he "killed the passengers" is a bit over the top.
@@selbstlader the buck stops at the top and the main man was the Captain. He's trained to see stupidity and fly from it. "I think so" or "I hope so" is not how you fly an airliner full of people.
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Yeah, with only 1 post every week it is the best thing to see
Thank you for another bland and boring unoriginal comment.
@@ARedMotorcycle ok bland and boring unoriginal username
That plane was seconds from crashing into my house. Rather scary when you are asleep at the time. I worked that disaster for 3 days as part of the Red Cross disaster team and will never forget. The flight path was changed after that and planes almost never flew over my house again from that time on.
I was living in North Park, the San Diego Neighborhood where the plane crashed - I was at home, maybe a mile or two at most from the site. We felt the crash....we of course immediately tuned in to the TV to see if there was a need for blood donors.. it was soon apparent that sadly, there was no need....As you know, several people were killed in houses on the ground - we knew a single mom with a child who lived in the impact zone. She had just walked from the front room of the small house to the back, to put her child down for a nap, when the plane impacted the ground - the blast set the front of the house on fire and smashed into the living room - she missed serious or fatal injuries to her and her child by mere minutes.
I remember seeing the smoke from the crash at Grossmont College, the school I was attending. A photographer I knew was there soon after the crash, and took a lot of pictures. He developed the rolls of film, printed a few pictures, and then put them away in a file. He would never show us any of them.
sad
@@earlpurisima2194 Yes, it was. About 10 years later, I worked with a woman who had been a PSA "stewardess" at the time. She lived in, and was based out of San Diego, and knew most of the PSA employees and crew on that flight. She said it was a very difficult time for the company, and the people who worked there.
There is footage of the accident soon after it happened, along with the big plume of smoke. Whatta difficult day that must have been.
I was on a roof in Lemon Grove... I saw the black mushroom cloud after the jet, wing burning, disappeared behind a hill.
I was a sophomore at Helix High School and we saw the black smoke rising too. Outside the girl's locker room. The pilot's daughter was a classmate of mine. Bob Fox's daughter. She had no idea at the time it happened. Tragic.
This is very near and dear to my family. Born and raised in San Diego. My father was supposed to be the first officer and my mother was supposed to work as a flight attendant. They switched schedules a couple weeks before the flight to go on vacation. 32 of their friends died that day. My mom is always sad on that Sept date.
I still remember that day. It was hot, I was in 8th grade, our class was using the band room because the a.c. Was not working in our regular classroom. We could see the smoke rising from the crash site. I grew up in North Park, but we moved over the bay to Coronado in 76. The I walked through the school that was a temporary morgue on my way home from elementary school. My brother was heading back to his home on his new Honda motorcycle after stopping by Ceola's apartment where my Mother was working to show her his new bike. He seen the crash as he was very close to the impact site. He said he has seen A body fly into A cars windshield and the body just exploded into pieces. A few minutes different and he would have been in the crash, as he was taking the back streets home that morning.
This crash was on 2020 i think and u said at 8th grade now how old are u?
@@Zakirbhai786 ok
I remember seeing the smoke from my school in Clairemont Mesa. About the same age as you and I remember it being a warm day. As a professional pilot now, and a bachelors degree in aviation safety, this accident has always had a personal influence on me.
Lived in National City, in H.S. at the time, and my dad was Chief/Fire investigator and went to the site. To this day I wish he hadn't showed me the pictures he took.
I saw this for real. it was my first Day on the job installing TV antennas I was about 19. We we're in Lemon Grove just a few miles East of North Park.
I did too. Lived near downtown.
Oh dang.
I recall the 📺 television show EMERGENCY did a similar episode to this crash on the show..just months before it happened in REAL life..spooky😳😳😇💥💥🔥
I flew PSA 727's into Lindberg many times. This hits close to home.
No you didn’t
You done did it again, TFC! 👏
This was and still is one of the most tragic plane crashes in history.
no its not the most tragic there was another Charkhi Dadri mid-air collison where two boeings collided and crashed and guess what one of the crews knowing they were dead for sure deviated their path into a open field rather than going down right into the village respect to all pilots involved
@@gwadamit8116 I did say "one of the". I know there were more tragic crashes though.
@@gwadamit8116 Actually it was an 747 and an IL-76
I swear it is so frustrating when these pilots take nearby traffic so lightly. So many lives could've been saved this was unavoidable!
Very casual, and the spare pilot in the jump seat was even uncomfortable.
Mohamed El Ghamedy I think you meant "avoidable."
@A Frustrated Gamer In order for TCAS to work it must be installed in both aircraft, most general aviation aircraft do not have TCAS installed due to cost. TCAS would not have prevented this, I would have thought a on the ball controller would have spotted the too close condition
You know this was 43 years ago right? This didn’t happen yesterday.
Most people who aren't pilots, I am, don't realize how hard it is to see another plane.
They look up in the sky and think look there's a plane it's easy to see.
The problem lies in the fact that the background at which you are trying to see another plane is not a blue sky, it's the background of a city with houses, trees, parks, cars etc. it can be really hard at times even when a controller points you in the right direction to look.
Im glad there are mandatory transponders.
On a CAVU day in 1968 I had Tulsa Approach run an AA707 right into me at 2,500 msl from my 2 oclock position. I told ATC 3 times I saw him coming and they ordered me to "maintain heading and altitude".
When i finally dived abruptly I could see the captain had on sunglasses. 500 ft horizontal and 200 vertical.
I never trusted ATC again, and 2 more times over the 52 years they goofed up badly.
BTW I raised hell on the radio, and on the phone after I landed, and ATC denied that anything happened.
First responsibility of the pilot is to fly your plane.
You came so close that you could see the pilot in the other plane had on sunglasses? Holee shit. Oh MY god. I woulda went straight to that ATC guy and they'd had to have called the cops and I probably woulda lost my job. I mighta even went to jail--or prison. Obviously the ATC guy wasn't paying attention. I know a guy that was afraid of heights and he was in a crane basket and the crane operator thought he'd F' with him and let him free fall from 175 feet right to the ground then quickly stop him. The guy was about 6'3" and 270 and he had 2, one and three quarter inch combination wrenches in his hand and he lobbed both of them right through the glass at the crane operator and they had to send the crane operator home for the day or that guy was gonna kill him. You don't F around when so much is on the line. Glad you thought fast my friend. You saved your life and countless other lives while some shit dick was filing his finger nails.
For some reason of all crashes this is the one that gives me chills to the bone.
The replay is frightening...knowing u are about to die with no control over it..there is something called the "Superman"..where one of the victims when the plane struck the ground at 300-mph!..went flying thru the air and his body struck a parked 🚗 car on the street
@@handsome-brute2666 Thats one of the reasons it terrifies me. That death isn't guaranteed instant, the poor bastard was shot out of the fuselage possibly through it, screaming. Literally all shit their pants as they spent a very lpng 20 seconds knowing they were going to die, before being turned into mush. It's not death which scares me at all, it's the way it happened that reminds me how we are sacks of mineral, meat and water with emotions and loved ones and so utterly fragile.
@@quietquitter6103 true they said they called him screaming flying superman..it can be Googled
Chilling. I was once in this situation during my pilot training. I was doing "touch and goes" at Piarco airport,
Port of Spain, Trinidad. And in a long final to land i heard an Eastern airline communicating to the tower
that they where at the Outer marker inbound to the same runway i was heading. I called the tower and told
them that i was still on a long final. They responded with go ahead 9YTEL. So i continued my descent. Soon
i heard Eastern airlines report "Middle Marker" and i was still a long way from the runway. I called the tower
and told them i know i have a jet coming in from behind me and asked for advise. They just told me to go ahead
and cleared to land and expedite leaving the runway. I sort of panicked and banked the plane to my right canceling
my approach and 30 seconds later i saw this huge Jet passing just behind me. This was in clear visibility so
the tower would have seen me and the Jet liner. Hopefully my decision saved a lot of lives that day.
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Good for you for being situationally alert to radio comm traffic. A lot of students would be so focused on task at hand that they would blot out stuff like that. Yeah, you saved a lot of lives that day. Or you might have caught his wake, and become a foot note.
And u did Rodney...you did good. Its an honor to communicate with you.
Please tell me you reported the incident and got the controller fired. PLEASE! and thank you for saving the day🙏
Imagine hearing this crash, walking outside to see what happened, and then you just see body parts mixed with metal everywhere. *I would honestly just die and melt right there and try to forever erase that*
many of the first responders that day.. were on their first day, which for some, was their last
Rest in Peace to all the passengers and crews on PSA Flight 182 and Cessna 172 crew who they perished on September 25, 1978.
7 human beings died on the GROUND! What About THEM? Wake The Fuck UP!
@@dehoedisc7247 he probablly wasnt able to watch through the whole video
@@user-rc2ev6cl7u IDIOT! A large Airplane On Fire crashes into a NEIGHBORHOOD in a city of 1,000,000 People! To IGNORE the Obvious is also Idiocy!
@@dehoedisc7247 im sorry!, but you need to calm down!, it was a small mistake!, you didnt have to go off on him like that!
@@emmanuelgaming101 Not "small" to the families of those killed by flaming Debris from the sky.
The chilling photo of the stricken airliner on fire and careening to the ground is something you never forget...they say if you look close enough you can see the ghostly faces of some of the doomed passengers.
Imagine sitting at home and getting hit by an airliner.
Your relatives will be rolling in cash.
I lived about 35 miles north of San Diego when this happened...I was 12 at the time and I'll never forget the horrifying photo on the front page of the newspaper of PSA 182 plummeting to earth. May they all rest in peace.
this particular crash always intrigues me a little more because of the fact that it crashed, on a nice sunny day(contrast to the death and destruction), into a neighborhood which hits close to home for anyone and then all the stories of the carnage on the ground/cars/houses
This is the most heartbreaking video I’ve watched so far.
“Tower, we’re going down, this is psa”
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Yeeeeah..I think the air traffic from Western airlines landing on the runway with construction equipment is about the Most Heartbreaking I've heard..They are all bad, but that one breaks me up..sheer terror
@@techreviews.heretoday.gonetomo Three big plane crashes fairly close together, time wise.
Could you imagine waking up one morning and everything is perfect. It's a beautiful day, the kids are at school, your spouse at work, it's your day off and you're sitting in your lazy boy relaxing watching some TV and then BOOM, it's all over. That's it. An airplane just impacted your house at 300mph. Life is so random, treat every day like it's a gift, like it could be your last. Many peoples lives have been impacted over the last 90 yrs to make airtravel as safe as it is today.
"This is it baby" this teared up my heart completely
Man, I started following your channel in late January of 2020, I've been hooked ever since. Love the work you put into making these. Keep up the good work. 👍🏿
chicken soup Thanks man, I’m glad you appreciate my content. ☺️
@@theflightchannel
Found it around the same time and watched all the episodes within 3 weeks 👍
My house is 1 block from the intersection where PSA 180 crashed, and the road is still wavy there.
Also, when we bought the house we found a toe bone in the backyard. Someone told us it was probably horse, and I hope they’re right.
This one gets me every time! Your presentation perfect as usual! The closing music just adds to the whole tragedy! RIP
What was truly eerie was the front page of the newspaper of the 1st photograph of the wing burning where you can see the reflection off the windows. I was just a kid at the time and I remember seeing the black smoke, but it was the photography that ultimately had left a lingering effect upon me.
"I guess." Two words you never want to hear in a cockpit.
I saw this from beginning to end, I had been out working on the underground cable TV plant early that morning and had finished puting tools away on truck and happened to look up and see what I thought was an engine falling end over end off of plane( found out later was the cessna). The 727 immediately rolled to the right and went straight down. I felt the concussion of the plane hitting the ground like a bomb going off. I was east of the crash site on a hill overlooking the San Diego area but several miles away. As I remember it days later they blamed the cessna pilots as they were wearing instrument hood and couldn't see where they were going. I also thought the cessna flew into the 727 so these videos have corrected how I thought it happened
i remember my dad telling me this story, when he was young he said he looked up and saw the plane coming in from the east and then the black smoke and then flames and black dots the dots were burnt bodies falling from the sky one landed in someone's bathroom such a shame a tragedy can happen at any moment
Black dots!? 😳😳😳
No... this did not happen. Literally watch the video. There was no inflight break up other than the C172 in which the aircraft was completely destroyed along with the 2 pilots. There were no falling bodies..
I was also told by my dad that there were bodies that fell in the trees. He said he knew some of the first responders needed therapy, because they never saw carnage like that. But I never understood either. Because the only photos we have don't show any of the fall out. We only see the plane still intact after the collision.
@@Krisstofers There were bodies all over the place, but those were thrown by the force of the impact. You can find details online, I however do not recommend doing so. It is undescribably awful...
@Authur Kitchen
Next up Arthur Kitchen to be cooked up.
I was living in San Diego at the time. I remember this all to well. Fortunately something good came out of this. The Sterile Cockpit rule. FAR 121.542 and FAR 135.100
You absolutely don't want to hear the crew say, "I guess" and "I hope". Really a shame.
Oh! When he said: "this is it, baby!" It killed me!
I was in 5th grade at recess when this happened. Palomar elementary school in Chula Vista, Ca. All I remember was the towering black smoke from my school which was like 10 miles away..I had no idea what had happened, until our teacher told us.,such a sad day.
This is just heart-rending. Your visuals and stunning recreations, which just keep getting better really make it feel very immediate and real.
My father had a reservation on this flight. He decided to drive from LA to SD instead right at the last minute. My mom didn’t know this and was freaking out about what she was going to tell us kids (I was 11).
She called my stepmom to find out more and that’s when my stepmom told her he had decided to drive.
Intuition? A sixth sense? Incredible twist of fate? I can only imagine what went through his mind when he learned of the crash.
He would get to live another 7 years….almost to the day.
After the captain said:"This is it baby" He also said:"I love you Ma" 😔 Heartbreaking💔
The Captain didn't say " I love you ma" it was an air flight attendant
@@moons4363 what was the flight attendant doing in the cockpit at that point. I think it was one of the pilots that said them words.
@@msingh9634 either way, it's sad :(
@@moons4363 Wrong.It was the captain. Get your facts straight.
@@moons4363 It was NOT the flight attendant. It was the captain.
Wow. This one got me harder than some of the others. Listening to the final few words is tough. Much of it is never released, rightfully so, but it must be hard on the investigators who analyze the recordings. Pretty traumatic.
This got you hard you sick fuck??
It's tragic to see all of the people, literally trapped in the falling plane out of control. Peace to them.
I remember when this happened. A neighbor was a PSA pilot and his wife was a stewardess. We initially were concerned it was them. Part of the PSA plane’s debris also landed in the yard of our friend from church but thank God they were not injured. The accident took place on the same exact day that the San Diego Chargers hired then head coach, Don Coryell. I was just a little kid but can still remember it like it was yesterday. It was a very sad day and very tragic what happened.
I’ve been hearing about this crash a lot lately
Ok
It somehow is engraved in many peoples´ minds, including mine. Maybe because of that photo? The horrible details about the crash scene (do not look those up i swear to god)? I dont know. But it is.
Jan Šilha the crash was caught on camera
Jan Šilha there was a photo of it nose diving into the ground
Why?
No way I would’ve let my life be determined by someone having eyes on me if can do something to remove myself from the equation. It’d be like crossing RR tracks and being told to just stay there, that the engineer of the oncoming train sees me and is going to switch tracks and go around. No thanks, I’ll back up - way back.
Finally a relatable comment! I never understood how a lot of these crashes happen if they are driving the plane! Forget ATC, fly the plane!
What a horrible accident... I can't imagine what the passengers (and crew) could have felt on the way down... May all the lost lives rest in peace.
I still don't understand why the pilots of 182 were blamed... they did everything in their power.
Great job TFC!
They lost sight of the Cessna and did not report that to ATC. In my view they hold the most blame.
They were blamed because they 1) agreed to maintain visual separation, and then 2) lost sight of the Cessna and did not report to ATC that they had lost sight. As soon as they lost sight they were obligated to report this to ATC.
@Jebidiah Newcracker I know 9/11 was worse, but all plane crashes are bad, right? I never said Sep. 11 was "less scary" or anything, right?
I don't want to imagine 9/11. I can't and I don't want to.
They only had seconds between collision and crash. I don't imagine they had much time to think about it. There are worse ways to go compared to many other air disasters
@Jebidiah Newcracker I agree with you about 9/11 but there is one huge difference between this crash and the tragedy of 9/11. This was an accident; 9/11 was terrorist cowards who killed innocent people because their own beliefs were so twisted! Sorry...I get angry about it too 🥺
I was 11 years old when this happened in my city , my dad was two blocks away at a 7-11 on Texas street !!! The images and eyewitness stories were horrific .!!
I enjoy the fact you read a story and watch it unfold brings a type of emotional engagement with it. I often find myself imagining myself as the pilot, co-pilot, flight attendance staff, or a passenger aboard. Which is so easily done by the way you clip everything together showing the actual activity from within the cabin! Thank you for all of your videos I appreciate the amount of work and talent needed to bring these stories to life and thank you again!
That captain was prolly one of the best to be the cool and calm in his last moment. RIP to all those who passed what a tragic accident. His last words were apparently ma, I love you.
It's incredibly eerie to hear their final words broadcast. So, so sad. Thank you for all the videos.
Sometime late 80's/early 90's I was on a "Midwest Express" flight (for those that remember) from DC to Milwaukee. I remember looking out the window and seeing another jet at 30,000+ft go right past us clear as day. Remember seeing on the local news a day later that a local flight almost had a mid air collision.
In the late 1970's, I was on a British Airways 747 taking off from Miami/Dade International, for London's Heathrow airport. Sitting directly in front of me in jump seats, facing me, were two flight attendant's. Suddenly, another jet headed straight for us/just below us, at a side angle where I could literally see people's faces in the windows! Literally went right under us. The entire plane shook violently as it did so. Shocked, I looked at the two FA's and said "OH. MY. GOSH, DID YOU SEE THAT?! They very calmly said "Oh, we don't worry until we see the whites of their eyes." No kidding. I was just literally floored. To this day it confounds me that we didn't crash. Also, since I lived in Europe at that time, in Norway, there's no recollection of hearing anything about this near miss in the news over there. I'd love to know if anyone in the U.S. did hear about it. Really scary!
Seems like a good 80-90% of accidents are from people seeing things and not SPEAKING UP. What the HELL. Rest in Peace to all that died that day. I'm so sorry.
What can possibly go wrong, let's have hooded instrument training at major airports with intersecting paths of commercial airliners. Seriously? Not surprised, just shocked this is even a thing, scary.
Is seems wrong to do IFR training where commercial airliners are flying in and out.
We do it all the time...it’s pretty safe so long as you don’t accidentally waltz into airspace without ATC contact, which with stuff like foreflight and GPSes nowadays, is a lot harder to to do. Generally we’re talking with ATC the whole time. I have flown VFR and watched Southwest and Fedex jets fly right under me(ATC kept them at a lower altitude to avoid us), it’s pretty cool. I’ve also done it IFR under the hood, not as cool as your instructor gets to say “oh cool look at that one”, while you’re stuck looking at an arrow on ADSB.
If you watched the end of the video you would have seen that it was the only place to practise at the time
Thomas Mortimore I saw the end and that it Lindbergh Field was the only nearby place to practice IFR. That fact doesn’t change my opinion that it is wrong to train/practice IFR where commercial aircraft are flying in and out. That mid-air collision proves my point, even though the PSA flight crew was blamed for improper radio communications.
CrazyPetez and my point is yeah it is wrong but they had no choice. Someone should have complained to the airport the cessna took off from or the FAA. There would have been procedures for this for example they did the approach at the opposite end of the active runway
I’m not trying to argue with any of you folks. My position is I’m a nervous flier, I don’t like to fly, and when I do I often grab the armrests when light turbulence rocks the airplane. So...the thought of a training flight in the vicinity of an airliner I’m on makes me very uneasy. Cheers!
I found this crash heartbreaking. Even more than others cause on the CVR: mom I love you.......................
So sad :( 😭😭😭😢😢😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Phil Ruddy condolences
@@jacquelinechristensen9231 no.. What he meant was in the CVR if you hear the last words of another crew member (not shown in this video, you can Google it) were Ma, I love you.
all air crashes are sad, because it kills everybody almost every time
@@ghost.protocol I thought the pilots last words were- This is it, baby.
@@tomlorenzen4062 it wasn't the captain's, it was another crew member's, probably the first officer's or the second officer's. It is not audible in the audio, but it is mentioned in the transcripts.
This channel just keeps getting better and better. One of my favorite channels on CZcams!
A list of errors, each seeming trivial, but they conspired to cause this tragedy. When flying, there are no trivial errors. The rules and procedures are written for good reasons.
Unfortunately the system at the time did not take this into account. Imagine being the atc doing everything he was taught to do and thinking he caused this and being blamed for it. Pretty sure he kept calling the flight pver and over while breaking down too. Such a horrific event for everyone.
Cessna Asses clearly to blame. Veered off course without mentioning it to anyone
@@johnmahoney3566 That's always kind of been my thought. ANY jet airliner pilot has monumental check lists duties to cover without having to worry about a small private plane that had no business being in their flightpath. I'm so sorry for the two men who lost their lives but in my mind, they were completely at fault.
It's very Airport '75.
Been binge watching your videos. Thank you for the amazing content during this quarantine!
I was at MCRD San Diego as a Drill Instructor. My platoon was finishing up a physical fitness training and the field is right next to Lindburg airport. We actually looked up and saw the collision and the planes falling into North Park (an area close to the airport).I will never forget that day.
Dear gosh, how do you erase that vision from your mind?
@@csc1641 You don’t
Happened TWICE! The PSA midair with a small plane over San Diego then again with a Mexican Air Lines and ANOTHER small plane over Cerritos, California 90 miles north of the first midair.
I nearly cried when he said “This is it baby”
Doge Bomber you for real mate?
On that day I saw the massive plume of smoke rising from San Diego 20m to our west. I cajoled my 9th grade History period teacher to switch on the TV for 'just a minute' to investigate what was up.
We learned this crash had occurred just 15 minutes prior - needless to say, our class period of 45 min was spent absorbed by footage of the aftermath of PSA 182.
Our teacher led us as we prayed for the victims & families impacted.
Little did I know it had wiped out a small block of homes only a mile from our place.
With a large % of the victims being from San Diego, the reverberations were felt for many years to come.
The San Diego Union Tribune Newspaper (!) featured many stories about all those affected.
Thank you TFC for covering this tragic incident.
This, along with the 2 similar LA area mid-air crashes (Cerritos & Aero-Mexico) 'helped' create the push for TCAS which has since saved many lives.
Good does come out of apparent evil happenings.
May the LORD rest all the victims in peace !
David B, from El Cajon
we lived in North Park at the time, but far enough from the crash site
My ex wife was a LA CO Deputy Coroner at the time of this accident and called out to respond to San Diego to assist them in this disaster. What a sad disaster which could have been avoided. It seems it always takes a major tragedy to upgrade and update equipment in the aviation and railroad areas as well as changing rules. I remember this and was hard to believe because I have flown on PSA many times from LA to SF and without any incidents.
Except there was plenty of safety in the system including radar location for BOTH planes at all times near the airport. Very puzzling why the PSA pilot didn't ask for this earlier.
@@watershed44
One Air Disasters episode showed the PSA Flight crew kind of happy & light hearted to be headed to their "Home Port" - and their caution to watch for the Cessna was sidelined.
They were code yellow should have been code red UNTIL Cessna was no longer in their flight path.
I recall these conclusions were borne out by the lively banter amongst the flight crew on the CVR - which showed they weren't as vigilant to avoid the Cesssna as they should have been.
@@watershed44 They say take off and landings are the most dangerous times in flying aircraft. Now if what you say is accurate, and I don't doubt you, then the pilots should have been more vigilant
@Mother Goose
I don't even think the sterile cockpit rules would have worked with this off duty pilot. I'm sure even back in the late 70s that many pilots flying would have told this OD guy to shut the heck up and get the radar location of the Cessna. Very puzzling behavior...
My husband and I had moved to San Diego just the year before. I remember when this happened. It was unbelievable. After the initial crash and investigation by the FAA when people were allowed into the area again, we visited the neighborhood where the crash occurred. It was a horrific scene. Just seeing the devastation really affected me. It was what I imagine a war zone looks like. I've never forgotten it.
Almost died in one at an uncontrolled airport in a Cessna twin engine. 8 souls on board The pilot made his radio call. Made our 180. On approach I saw a small Cessna fly over us at less 50 feet. On the tarmac I said to the pilot interesting approach as we watched the same guy do touch and goes. Not paying attentoin to the wind sock or his radio.. You can get a licence and still be a moron.
TaRmAc
@@gibasgibny5271 was that needed?
@@andresolmos8639 Well yes, but actually no
"You can get a license and still be a moron". Driving a car, no difference.
A few second before it was just another routine visual landing. The next second bang "this is it baby!".
Such is life, we just never know. RIP so sad.
13 seconds collision to impact
@@boneeatingsilicate580 The worst is that you realize that your life is about to end, and you also have no time to say goodbye to your loved ones.
This was only three blocks from my mother's house in North Park, I was at my mom's when it went down. I run over to the plane crash it was a really bad sight to see a body and body parts on the ground. my elementary teacher who lives on that block and never found out if Mrs. Mendelssohn made out safely. My heart goes out to the people who went through this. RIP
Beautiful rendition FC. So excellently depicted. Prayers for all of those who died. Love the detail of your work.
I was 16 when this happened.
I remember watching it on the evening news with my dad
Hearing the captain's last words broke my heart
I lived in San Diego when this happened. It was and still is extremely sad and shocking!
At the time everyone was blaming the Cessna pilot. Very informative to know that there were so many variables to this accident.
Excellent video.
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As long as I've been following your channel..... This is LITERALLY the first crash that brought me to tears. To hear/see the captain's last words sent chills through me.
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That was a sad day. I remember it. I was 11. My mom was signing papers to close on a house justc2 blocks from the crash. I never realized that the Cessna came from Montgomery Field. I should have known. I live right down the street. Preventable.
I remember that incident, as I lived a few miles east of the crash site. We residents in the neighborhood were very shaken and saddened by the disaster, trying to make sense of it occurring on such a clear day. Thanks for the re-creation and understanding. It reminds us of how fleeting life is and how a combination of errors and conditions can end it all instantly.
I will never forget this incident. I was in the 7th grade at Bell Junior High School when a classmate asked our teacher "what is that black smoke" outside. I remember looking at the clock and the time was 9:05 am. Soon as the bell rang to leave, I remember hearing a kid say that a plane had crash and many kids ran across the field to look at the black smoke. My father at the time was working for American Airlines loading luggage and he even said how that crash affect everyone at that airport. The plane crashed in a huge residential area not too far from my uncle's apartment. My uncle said he was asleep at the time. When the plane crashed it sounded like a sonic boom when it impacted. It was so sad that I still remember how the community was shook to its core from this tragedy not to mention the lives that were loss. RIP to the loss souls.
Oh wow! This is the one that I asked for months ago. Thanks! My aunt actually witnessed this while she was pregnant with one of my cousins. According to my mom it was a pretty horrible thing to see. May they rest in peace.
Good thing that TCAS is now mandatory in each plane. Such a horrific accident.
I live in San Diego and remember that day like it was yesterday. It the time I was playing football for Mesa Junior College which is 6 miles north of the crash. Walking out to the practice field we all heard the crash and of course, saw the smoke instantly. My wife's father was a caption for PSA at the time of the crash. He was very good friends with all three pilots lost in the crash.
Another excellent video on such a tragic subject, at least we learn by these events to help prevent them from happening again.
I'd just like to say that I appreciate you still putting out quality videos during a global emergency. Keep safe and thank you for your work :)
"Global emergency"? There is only global Terrorism against humanity by very sick psychopathic people, calling it a pandemic whenit is a intentional planned agenda! No new virus, fake PCR test that show nothing, false numbers and statistics, media hysteria and the ylying media hysteria about something that doesn´t exist other than the typical flu! SCAMDEMIC!
@@armandmartinez7110 I think that the 1,000,000+ people who are dead would disagree with you on that one.
Those unfortunate people are PAWNS in a sadistic and prophesied movement of ancient origins , way beyond your comprehension... Pay attention to what is coming next.
@@Taharkah Wtf have you been smoking? Loosen the tinfoil hat, it's clouding your thinking.
Hello! I was actually investigating this incident before this video and this video gave me more info, thanks flight channel! And also I would like to clarify this isn’t the Cessnas or 727s Fault, the 727 saw the Cessna in front and should made some kind of evasive maneauvers as he was close and the Cessna pilot, was fine and sticking to the training plan and ATC Instructions, anyway even though they had “visual separation” they should of atleast, keep on getting position checks by ATC so that ATC knew if they really had visual separation, anyway good video,
This is from a 10 year old, not a clever aviation investigator.
Didn't the Cessna change it's flight plan when it shouldn't have? I will have to watch it again later. Good observation by you though.
The Cessna did *not* adhere to the ATC instruction to maintain a 070 heading. That was listed as a contributing factor in the report, and the dissenting opinion stated that it should've have been listed as one of the probable causes. Furthermore, as you noted, the failure of ATC to provide radar separation was also flagged as a contributing factor, and again that same dissent argued that this too should have been listed as one of the probable causes.
@Greg Stark
True but the PSA pilot had the ability to take evasive action and didn't
I think the PSA Pilot could barely even see the Cessna, but that kinda makes sense, but the pilots probably didn't know they were gonna collide until they did, this coming from a 12 year old
You're 10 years old? Wow, you write so well for 10 years old and have such good research skills. You can probably be anything you want when you become an adult.
The doppler audio effect @ 9:49 with the Cessna pulling fast ahead (tail view) was fantastic; superb attention to detail, A+.
My brother and his family lived in the North Park area of San Diego at that time. Of course they heard the crash; but immediately afterwards a body (no head attached) actually came flying thru his front screw door and into the house. Meanwhile, outside, he told me, "it looked like a war zone". Shortly after that, they moved to another location. Nice job presenting this.