The Acolyte 1x6 Reaction: Teach/Corrupt
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 2. 07. 2024
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Manny Jacinto has just way too much Rizz that I'm like wait, do I wanna turn? Darkside looks pretty good... pretty damn good
Doesn't hurt that you see ... ahm ... a whole lot of him this episode, right? đ
@lady8jane for real. "If you're not going to join me..."
Me like, girl get in there kill him laterđ€
I kept waiting for the camera to tilt south, but I had to remind myself this isn't on HBO.
@@AmyL._orcgirl I'm so glad you're condoning a dude exposing himself to a woman.
@@atari1994 like most men wouldn't fall over themselves if a attractive woman oozing Rizz did the same thing
agustin's mic made him look like a priest during this whole reaction lol
I had the same thought.
LOL you're right!
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Now I can't unsee it
I'm with you, Adam. I've never been offended by Star Wars, either. Never lost sleep nor appetite. My childhood memories haven't been ruined. I am enjoying this show for what it is.
Seriously. Adam (and those like him) have probably the healthiest take on Star Wars.
It has Cortosis. I think they're on that planet that opens the Plagueis novel. Plagueis and Tenebrous are there to mine the Cortosis. Baldemnic, I think it's called.
bulls eye!
Oh Iâd fall to the dark side SO fast. Space sorry. đ
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My bet is qimir was vernestras apprentice. The scars on his back look like they're from a whip
Thats what i was thinking too!
Shoto blade user as well it's how he likely survived said encounter.
Yea cuz that scar isnt in like a full straight line. I think Qimir did act out and Venestra had to try and constrain him and to each of them they both think what they did was right. Cuz if she did whip him, she didnt kill him like she did the bug, she like gave him a warning or something since its just a scar.
@thomasgordon7344 oh my God he's got a small blade on his Saber we've seen already. How did I not put this together I'm a bad legends fan lmao
Every time Hector says "kill him" it is just the funniest thing for me. He is on a murder wishing spree since HoTD reactions. hehehe
People being patient for the slow burn are the real heroes. Everyone gets all upset waiting for an answer, you get the answer, but your hate the whole time leading up to kills any kind of resolve.
I've learned to be very patient with slow burn shows after watching stuff like Game Of Thrones so I'm really enjoying this show
@lordfoul6259 Great example! Sometimes that show drags through the mud with a broken wheel, but it's a great show overall, and more times than not worth the payoff.
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Cheeks and his DingDong? â€đ I think Vernestra whipped him, leading to his whip-like scars
â@@MysticTrollDefinitely a possibility what if Sol used her whip instead of being so on the nose? Excited to find out either way.
@@nerdsengage yep I didnât hate Andor but it took getting past the first 2-3 episodes for me to fall in love with it.
Lee Jung- jae and Manny Jacinto are the highlights of this show!!
Among others. But sure.
@@marionhope7506 Nope. Not any others. All the other characters are awful. So happy most of them died, so we never have to see them again
The ONLY highlights
â@@tonyilias2561 You seem to be obsessed with hate commenting on these episodes judging by a quick look at your comment history. You should get out more.
just realized the juxtaposition of the way qimir treats osha vs how sol treats mae. qimir gives osha the choice to kill him and flee, or to have a free conversation with him. sol runs away from the truth, hides his intentions and binds mae to a table out of fear.
It's not like she killed 2 jedi or anything đ
@@ashigaramii__ I donât think itâs out of fear. He is on an emotional roller coaster having just lost his fellow Jedi and Osha whom he insisted on bringing along. I agree itâs not his finest hour, but out of fear I donât agree.
Darth Thirst Trap sold me lol I would join
Vernestra's unease regarding hyperspace travel is a fantastic callback to the novels.
âŠand a hilariously stupid moment for the other 99% of us that donât read those books.
@@michaelschaub4267 seems like a you problem to me.
It's really cool to see you guys seem to be enjoying the show vs so many other people just hating on the franchise.
Other people don't like this show for genuinely valid reasons. Awful acting, poor writing, cheap looking sets which is crazy considering the $180 million dollar budget, lore-breaking moments, etc.
@@tonyilias2561 I think it's wild that when I gave Heroes Reforged kudos for geniunely enjoying the show, because I enjoyed seeing their excitement. Someone comes along to say why people hate the show and all the things wrong with it. The message wasn't for you. It was for Heroes Reforged. It's like you can't stand for people to enjoy something that you hate. Misery loves company.
Was I the only one distracted by the fact that Agustin's mic stand kept making it look like he was dressed as a priest? đ
Did think we were watching with Father Agustin
Just noticed that the episode starts and ends with Oshaâs breathing
She starts taking a breath in, and ends with deep breaths out.
âItâs like poetry..it rhymes đđ
The island world should end up being Balâdemnic. It's one the worlds Tenebrous and Plagueis mined cortosis. It's also where Tenebrous died.
Also, as to Qmir possibly being Vernestra's former apprentice: when she surveys the dead jedi it really seems like she knows exactly who did that.
Qimir showed off his scar that looks like a whip scar, then like two scenes later we get Vanestra's light whip in a throwaway moment. It has to be leading us towards that thought
Many thanks to Adam, Hector and Agustin! đ
I haven't actually read the books but I'm pretty sure Vernestra did have an apprentice that almost fell to the dark side, it would be interesting if this was another one that actually did fall
It is actually a younger padawan whose master had just been killed, and Vernestra talks him back to the light side. Vernestra then ends up taking him as her padawan
Best Star Wars discussion I have seen since this series started... none of it may be perfect, but there is something for everyone to love as they grow the universe and delve deeper into the realities of what it means to be in a world with space wizards.
Haha I chuckled and thought he did not even show his face to Mei but Osha damn girl she saw it all right away đ
Ask your doctor if you heart is healthy enough for Cortosis
I assume they end with Sol about to talk and then Osha donning the helmet so that when they tell the story next episode, we understand that everyone is finding it out.
When you realise that the moment Osha puts on that helmet, its not just about finding the space to focus on the Force without outside influences, its also about her shutting out the world around her and disappearing into her own headspace.
Holy sith is my new favourite exclamation. Thanks Adam!
Itâs definitely not Ahch-To (thatâs a Jedi haven, this is a dark side haven) but we think it could be Balâdemnic - definitely go google it and read the description.
Places strong with the Force have both. "Powerful Light, Powerful Dark"
Ahch-To had the dark cave by the cliffs and sea, the Dagoba swamps had a stronf dark place as well (which hid Yoda from detection).
@@alexkramerblogsYes, valid. Fair. Lore-wise, in-universe, it could be Ahch-To. Mechanically, from a story building and worldbuilding perspective, itâs almost certainly not. For one thing, Cortosis is incredibly rare and powerful. If a vein had been discovered on Ahch-To by Jedi, it probably would have become a large mining operation overnight (like basically every other known Cortosis vein has become) and thus wouldnât have remained a good Jedi haven for the sacred texts. This vein on this planet (again, I really think itâs Balâdemnic - worth googling, see how well it fits) isnât known yet (beyond Qimir) that weâve seen.
Also, from a worldbuilding perspective, it would be kind of an unforced error to make it Ahch-To. The tattooine problem, know what I mean? âThis galaxy is massive and has thousands of planets, and we keep going to the same four? Really?â That whole thing. Considering the care that obviously went into this series (contrary to what the idiots derp) it really seems unlikely to me.
@@jasonmarbach yeah, I am also strongly in the Bal'demnic camp. The series can visually call to Sequels, but I think it being a 'new' planet fits more thematically with what the story is doing.
@@alexkramerblogs agreed
love what ADAM said man well done
Love what Adam said at the very end, perfect encapsulation of the majority of normal people/SW fans.
This was the reaction I was looking for..
Thank you guys for being objective and encouraging. There are too many other reviewers not even giving this a chance and you all are at least at a minimum allowing yourself to be entertained
Green Jedi Chick (I just genuinely can't spell her name off the top of my head) may be the master of Qimir not only are the scars a little hint but he also has a Shoto which was introduced in Legends to literally counter Lightwhips.
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Hands off my Saber đ
50 shades of Grey Sith - not Jedi
@@Secretsongs20 Gray Jedi are neutral force users from the extended universe, not truly jedi or sith. went for the easier pun with existing references đ€·ââ
@@PsychoMonkie My bad! I didnât know about the Grey Jedi. But it does fit Qimir who seems to not like labels.
OMG, "show us your dark side." I literally peed myself laughing. :D
Definitely joining the darkside đ„”
Or.. Qimir is manipulating Osha into believing the choice is hers (by appealing to her nature), but I wonder what would have happened if she had have made for the ship? You could also say, while Sol is being heavy handed in his restraint of Mae - he is not obfuscating his intentions and is about to reveal the truth of what happened the night the witches died.
Although I can understand the worth in illustrating how getting so caught up in the dogma of any particular group's beliefs/rules might find one unknowingly on the path to the dark side. Particularly when those beliefs are held as being the one and only, to the exclusion of all other "ways". Certainly greater issues arise when following even "good" beliefs/rules in such a rigid manner, that doing so begins to supersede the importance of the fundamental goodness they were meant to promote.
To echo Hector, all the fans of Acolyte when Qimir was unmasked: Oh, no, he's hot!
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@24:27 thank you, Adam!!! Brilliant point đđ»
In the old ya books about obi wan being qui gongâs apprentice they go into a bit of discussion about what happens if your arenât picked as a padawan. They join like a peace corp type thing but under Jedi control. Use force powers to help crops grow and aid planets. I donât know if those are canon anymore but interesting.
Qimir is Vernestraâs former apprentice maybe
I see this show as the Firefly of Star Wars-swap space western for murder mystery, the negative feedback akin to getting cancelled, and I predict much like Firefly will only grow in popularity over timeâŠ..
Osha: âI saw your laser swordâ
So glad you guys enjoyed Qimir! Since Yord is now dead you have someone new to thirst after!đ
Headland confirmed that the planet is not Ahch-To. Wasn't even filmed in the same place. Though, the dead giveaway is the lack of porgs lol
If all the Sith looked like Manny Jacinto, there would be no Jedi.
I think two episodes a week would've been the sweet spot for this show.
23:38 The Jedi have become so complacent they went Find the Chosen one and he has to buy himself out of slavery, AND THEY LEAVE HIS MOM TO BE STILL A SALVE. The Jedi see are like a church and we all know they make mistakes
âYou must whip itâ đ€Łđđ€Łđđđđđđ
From an article about "The High Republic"
At the center of The High Republic are the Jedi, whom, Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy says, weâll get to experience in their prime. Weâve seen the Jedi corrupted by their roles as political figures and war leaders during the Prequel era, the last remnants of their ways lead to a rebellion during the Original Trilogy, and their religion die out and become myth, only for the spark of hope to be reignited again during the time of the Sequel Trilogy. But never before, within this current canon, have we seen the Jedi Order act as their faith intended.
I won't be as easily manipulated as my sister.......proceeds to get manipulated within hours of saying it
Yeah the next ep is directed by the same director as the flashback ep, so I assume ep 7 is seeing what actually happened before the finale.
To Hectorâs point about the Jedi and restrictions on the use of the force: I think the Jedi, as an institution, have fallen into the mistake of thinking that restricting the proper use of things will prevent their misuse.
This is true of the power of the force, and also emotions. Itâs a more challenging road, and requires much more individualized attention, but teaching people how to use power, and their emotions, responsibly is the healthiest path in the long run.
When people misuse their power or emotions is when you step in and try to restrain them from hurting themselves and others. To do it in a blanket and preemptive way leads to other problems.
How ironic that the Jediâs fearâ of others misusing the force has lead to anger, hate, and suffering.
Yet, the Jediâs flaws do not make them the moral equivalent of the Sith. A harsh and abusive slave master who sometimes shows kindness is not the same as a well meaning and loving parent who sometimes treats their children poorly. And the institution that poorly practices an idea does not invalidate that idea.
Iâm so glad you guys appreciate this and all the other Star Wars content because there are too many haters just to hate because of political reasons or biases.
i really enjoyed this episode, i need the address of that unknown planet. Where is the sith acolyte sign up sheet, is there a waitlist? Is there a fee to use the pool? I'm sold. When he said "Desire" oh boy! I wish all the episodes were longer because im just enjoying it so much. I wish they did a 60min 8 episode series. I just feel it would let them work on the pacing of the entire thing and i just want more ha! Love the reaction guys, congrats on 10 years.
Why are people getting so confused about Sol and Qimir knowing who is who? Qimir saw Osha's tattoo. Sol knew when he asked "Where is she?" and got "Who?" in reply. The fun thing is Qimir is (mostly) truthful with Osha to tempt her to the dark side, and Sol lies to Mae to try and get her back to the light side...
The heat got turned up in episode 5 and it's still simmering in 6. I might have enjoyed this episode more just cause how often do you see someone from that 'Sith' side having a long conversation about it all. I still think the twins can be written a lot better cause they're not doing the actor (who's wonderful) enough justice. But I'm digging how the second half of this series (so far) has been a lot better.
Hector's Devo reference lol
Justice for Porkins. He can hold it
Iâm calling Sol starts talking to Mae cut to Qimir talking to Osha the. We get the flashback second half leading in to the finale
'Stark Naked Wars: The Force Uncovered'.
Vernestra: Sister Whipster.
Osha: Twisted Sithster, Soul Sithster, Sol's Sithster
Mae: Twin Sithster
Darth Swole.
Lord Stripped Sith.
Adam having a seizure when the power comes back and Sol doesn't tell Mae what happened đ
edit: nm, Adam was just having seizures all over the place
You guys are the best!
Jedi take kids with parents` approvals, and is for a reason, if the force users level up their abilities having emotions they are a an issue (just mentioning a kid called Ani).. that's why they need to be have empathy for the people but not personal attachment, if you can't separate emptions then you take wrong decisions, it's not forced but a precaution, Jedi are not in an endless crusade regulating who uses the force but they have to take a stand when someone like Qimir shows up killing Jedi like crazy, they wouldn't bother him on his paradise island if he stayed there in peace.. great reaction again! keep rocking and stay safe....
I love that this series has been a slow burn.
I gotta say, I disagree with you guys about the cliffhangers feeling mean. I really liked last weeks episode but I loved this one and the cliffhanger ending, specifically the way it played, is a big part of why. I'm not worried about answers. I'll land or it won't, but this slow steady build that takes its time with the characters and changing my view is excellent. This episode, no joke, made the Acolyte my second favorite Star Wars project after Andor
I really wish I could have a sit down conversation about Star Wars with yâall.
Crying at Hector saying "kill him" đ€Łđ€Ł
Guys i watched your takes on this as well as Asoka to get a view point on the hateful Reviews / and criticisms from folks who's Geek cards are bigger , better, more robust than mine. As a minority who saw a new hope in '77 the type and level of hate Obi-, Asoka and now this was getting was ......what's the young people's phrase? "Making me Glitch". Appreciate getting realistic commentary and insight on details not just I don't like it! Imma' subscribe so I can see Boba & Mando -Both of which I loved ,through your lens.
Already cracking me lol 3 times not even ten minutes in haha
Can Agustin use a different background? The neon green gives me a headache đą
IMAGINE Qimir is Sol older relative who trained with Master V before getting caught using the dark side. Both Sol & Osha minds were wiped, turning them into the Dark Side now
Fans everywhere, "Show us your lightsaber! No, we've seen that one, the other one!" đ
đ©đŸâđ»đ©đŸâđ» I just wanted to say Thank Y'all for giving the show a fair shot but at the same time being honest about your dislikes.
To be honest I wasn't sure I'd be watching reactions to this show do to all the toxicity concerning this show in particular but SW overall.
I can completely understand being pissed off about some of the ways in which SW has been moving since the sequels, but acting like every show that comes out sucks is a bit much to me (especially when it hadn't been released yetđ¶đ¶).
Anyway, Thanks again đđŸââïžđđŸââïž
Hector: Murdermurdermurdermurder~~
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Next week: the truth about the massacre?! I thought the twist of this series was going to be Osha being the 'evil' twin, but now there trying hard to set up Vernestra as the Sith master... I do hope for a more satisfying reveal at the end.
Personally, Iâm not seeing the show trying to turn Vernestra as the sith.
Iâm really hoping they tie this in with plagueis and his master
The Acolyte has a lot of problems, but I think it's getting undeserved hate for its mystery elements. Many people seem to want and expect the network TV "mystery/red herring....rinse, repeat" format. Presumed Innocent on Apple is doing that right now, and it works. This is a "hide the ball" show, and I can see how that's frustrating if you expect reveals every episode. The nature of it is keeping the audience in the dark and repeatedly moving the goalpost.
They want everything to be chewed and put into their mouths, like in Andor, so that they don't have to use their own brain cells, or - god forbid - wait for the end of the show.
Jedi / NightsWatch...
Im confused. May wanted to turn in Qimir to the Jedi in an earlier episode, but is still pulling out the knife behind Sol's back, obviously to kill him. What am i missing?
!!Potential Spoiler Warning!!
I believe in one interview, the showrunner said there will in fact be two Sith in the first season. So perhaps the master that cast him aside was the Sith. Perhaps they no longer wanted him as an apprentice and attempted to kill him but he escaped and is now in hiding. Or he is still the apprentice but wants an Acolyte in order to overthrow his Sith master.
No one is saying that Luke is a perfect character. What I and others have said it was out of character to come to the conclusion he must die. Rather than investigate.
The showâs biggest problem is that itâs airing weekly. They shouldâve released it nightly over 2 weeks like an old miniseries
I watch most of the Star Wars shows because I like Star Wars, I don't love Star Wars as I wasn't a child when I saw any of the Trilogies. It is hokey, silly humor, golden bikinis, lots of humans wearing silly silicon masks, but I will watch most of the shows. For the Acolyte, it doesn't matter who was wrong as both sides, the Witches and the Jedi participated in the outcome that left most of the witches dead and the Jedi with PTSD.
Sol starting to remind me of Cohmac Vitus. His emotions got the best of him and he left the Order.
This show should have been 2 episodes a week.
1-2
3-4
5-6
7-8
The problem is that it was painfully obvious the four Jedi were hiding something from the very first episode. Maybe the writers thought they were clever enough that audiences wouldnât catch on until right away, but thatâs not what happened.
This isnât so much a slow burn as it is a will-they-wonât-they wearing a fake mustache.
Or maybe those weren't the mystery of the show at all.. it's much cleaner when some of the minor stuff gets revealed early.. it's meant to disarm the audience
When did we find out the so called Siths name? Where did he say his name is Qimir?
@@damnthisuser second episode I believe when they meet him at the potion shop
Qimir aka Obito Uchiha aka Smilo Ren aka Sith Lord Rizz
I have a theory that theyâre not going to tell us the good Ish until next season.
I get where you're coming from. I kind of wanted Sol to tell Mae what he did as well. But it's episode 6. So i kind of expected them to draw it out. The problem is it feels like a stark contrast against episode 5.
i feel like this show couldâve been a decent movie
@@penguin50279 I totally agree.
At the very least, I think a 3 week release like Arcane or LoVM would have worked well.
Wk1 episodes 1-3 tell quite a story
Wk2 episodes 4-6 which has a good set up for the two part finale
7-8 together, as it seems we will get the truth and some sort of closure alongside maybe a double turn
30 minute episodes feel like 5 min đ
yes. Good premise 'destroy the jedi without a weapon, expose them and destroy their dream', great action, good lead cast, good star wars bits and bobs like Pip and Bazil, but ultimately filtered to us through the 'content' show model.
I really hope they do make that planet Octo, because they could retroactively make TFA make a bit more sense. The map to Luke Skywalker isn't a map to Luke Skywalker (because he didn't want to be found), it was a map he used to find the ancient first Jedi temple. It could be a map from Qimir, or it could be from someone else, but the idea of Luke intentionally going into hiding and a map being left behind anyway was just weird. Maybe the only thing in TFA I didn't like or that didn't make sense to me. Especially after TLJ made me realize that, "Oh yeah, he's in HIDING."
@Adamhlavac called it!
Bravo Adam
đȘïž man, if youâre gonna pick holes in Star Wars, you can pick holes from the very first movie a new Hope. Really if you look at it what was going through Obi-Wan Kenobiâs head when he sacrifice himself to Darth Vader in front of Luke.? I know he says if you strike me down Iâll only be stronger. Luke is staring straight at him and he basically let him kill him. Do you think Luke was going to go? I was channeled the lights to destroy him. No he wanted to kill him wouldâve pushed him to the Darkside for revenge that wouldâve been it.
Criticism of the shows is fine. But in my opinion, a lot of bad faith actors, we all know the usual crowd, is complaining that the mystery show didn't lay out the mystery and all of the answers immediately. Some of the writing is stiff and some of the performances are wooden. But I've been enjoying the slow burn. Qimir is awesome. Everything about episode 5 was fantastic. Looking forward to how it all wraps up.
Boring ah show
This show absolutely fcks. Canât wait for next week. Thanks for the reaction, guys!
Flashback is gonna be traumatic I know it
Sucks*
@@Pardcore grow up
Im enjoying the show but really think it would be better if the episodes were longer and we could dive into these characters a bit more
100% Adam
HĂ©ctor, I don't know if you have read the tweets and messages, but everyone loved Manny Jacinto...
But for real, I'm not actually feeling the show, the story is interesting, but it doesn't feel like they are truly fleshing it out... It's ep06 and we are finally going somewhere???
đȘïž I totally agree with you, Hector. Basil is the hero of the show. Now with that out-of-the-way, I feel that if this series was done in a three part TV movie event, I think people would have had a less of a problem with the flow. Still show each one week apart, but have it as a TV movie, instead of a weekly show because running time wise these episodes are very short as a weekly episode.
I really think Qimir is one of Vernestra's padawans not the one from the books though cause he looks entirely different and I also think Osha is the true acolyte she's going to the dark side