If I had a nickel for every time a Disney Star Wars heroine decided to forgive the dark side villain because they saw them without their clothes on I'd have two nickels... which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it's happened twice.
"You killed that girl I kinda liked!" "Yeah but you didn't like her *that* much, right?" "Oh, good point. I forgot that a person's life has no intrinsic value beyond what they have to offer me in particular. One evil helmet, please!"
She was raised by lesbians, seeing Smilo naked to her was a massive revelations that there are other tools to use, so she forgets the tradition of her mothers, the way of the multiple orgasms, in favour of the corrupted way of the curved sabre, the style that can hit the G-spot better
I don’t think it was “Yeah but you didn’t like her that much right?” I thought it was “Yeah but you guys probably couldn’t like hook up or anything right?” Pretty sure everything else you had was right on the money though.
So weird Headland wanted a scene where a man takes an unconscious woman to his home, gets newd in her presence, and then strolls out of the bath with everything hanging out before he tries to seduce her to cast off her old life and consider a new villainous career of doing whatever the hell you want, to get what you, at the cost of others.
Sad Fact: As a bridge worker in construction, the average cost of building an entirely new bridge in my state (assuming there's no refurbishing work) is approximately 3 million. That's for four lanes and about 500 ft. So every episode of the Acolyte is equal to about 7 bridges on average in the United States. (my state falls on the average mean). Not only are you getting sustainable infrastructure for at least 30 years but you're also providing work for approximately 25 to 50 people for almost a year with that many to do. All for 30 minutes of this show.
It has to be accounting tricks to cover loses from other areas, $180 million is ridiculous. Dune 2 cost less and tells way more story and is visually superb, Disney stuff looks crap because they rely to much on CGI rather than locations and practical effects. Yea when you put into perspective what the money they piss away could be spent on its sad, and then they all lecture us about the environment and socialism.
@@dmac318310m more dune 2 had. Still that's embarrassing AF because they are probably the same length in the end. The quality, that's just a joke to compare lol.
Yeah, I hadn't written that on social media because I didn't want to sound too serious, but you can also think of the equipment it would mean in the health sector...
@timbothejedi4146 glad someone can see my comment because I can't (strange). Yea your right these episodes are so short if you remove credits,intro and recap it probably is the same length as Dune. I don't watch it but I watch EFAPs watchalongs.
"That man corrupted your sister." No Sol, I think the coven of darkside, lesbian, space witches did that, given that she tried to kill her own sister when she tried to leave. But no, blame the Sith Lord, who just lucked out on finding a child who was already conditioned to be a psyco murderer, because god forbid we hold women accountable for their evil actions in a Star Wars show.
At this point the powers of all the Jedi have fluctuated so wildly between scenes that I'm not even sure how powerful anyone is anymore. One second Sol is forcefully reading a guy's mind, the next he can't tell the sisters apart. One minute his padawan is an actual student doing basic lessons, the next she's competently fighting an alleged not-Sith. There are no rules, they're always precisely as strong or weak enough to perform whatever action the writers want.
I get the vibes that in one of the remaining episodes, they're going to pull a Rings of Power supermove and have "Unknown Planet" actually morph into a planet name that's known to diehard fans. I mean like, otherwise, there's no point in labeling it unknown. It remaining unlabeled would accomplish the same thing. So, the title must exist to be altered. Right? Unless of course, in episode 7, we get an establishing shot with "Unknown Planet" AGAIN, to confirm we are on that same unknown planet.
Maybe if we are lucky they will do a fusion dance in the last episode and turn into Super Mosha to fight Smilo, Sol and Leslye's wife at the same time.
@@reginaphalange9417 You know, now that I'm thinking about this... it might be the way they go about it. Jedi had to brainwash Osha to behave, while Mae ran away and found Qimir. Man, and that would add to the "there is no good or evil in Star Wars" that they want to push... Oh, jeez...
Writer 1:How is our stalwart character going to be seduced into the dark side? Writer 2: Wowowo repeat that word. Writer 1: Stalwart? Writer 2: No, the sex one. Writer 1: ...Seduce? Writer 2: I've got an idea. Absolute Cinema. Lesley really took "write what you know" to heart.
Nobody: "Remember when he tried to kill her last episode? Why did he do that? And if that was his motivation, why is he trying to seduce her right now?" Writers: "...."
I have every confidence this is the *origin* story for why they instead burn their dead 130 years from now! You see Jedi Mistress Green Bean will have the bodies awaiting burial aboard a ship, but Smilo Ren resurrects them (with the established Ahsoka-witch powers), so to avoid this ever happening again, it becomes the jedi way to cremate.
Are you expecting anyone on the writing team to know something of Star Wars outside the sequel trilogy? Knowing one thing is asking too much out of these people x)
Disney protagonists are unable to resist the urge to fall for shirtless, murderous men. No matter the events leading up to their meeting (or lack of events).
I just love how two episodes ago, every Disney shill was endlessly mocking all of us for still taking EU canon seriously, and now they keep pointing to it to defend most of the sh*t that’s happened in the past two episodes.
I love how in the same breath they’re able to say that anyone who hasn’t heard of Cortosis is an ignoramus, but also say that anyone who knows the longstanding canon backstory of Ki-Adi-Mundi is pretentious or some shit.
Fans: "His genitals are made from a material called Dongosis, it's really rare, and it can turn anything it touches into a lightsaber. This doesn't break canon because it was mentioned in this one sentence from this one book."
I think I have read this book before, but strangely I couldn’t find it in the sci-fi section of the book store. In fact, I’ve seen this book when browsing the web on incognito mode.
Naw, Dongosis is a material that turn women to the dark side. Lesbian witches had no men to protect themselves from its influence, but Ossie fell to its might.
Yeah it's like one of the writers saw the scene where Luke throws away his lightsaber through a reccomendation on youtube and made the rule based off that. If they saw the Mace Windu vs Palpatine scene on youtube maybe they wouldn't have made that rule.
@@2ndlegend125 No: They are not armed then. Because if they were then Smilo's stupid "an Acolyte kills without weapons"-line wouldn't make any sense. And we can't have that.
So a Jedi Master can't distinguish between two Force users that have very different psyches, ideals and emotions, but an otter can distinguish between two identical twins wearing each other clothes? Obviously they wouldn't smell identically due to diet, environment and stuff, but still. Bare in mind, Jedi can easily recognize CLONES.
Jedi can recognize a person's "presence" in the force. They're also telepathic, and if you're not locking down your mind, they can read your thoughts without even trying. Well, they're supposed to be able to do that. It's just some useless lore established in the movies
But you see, what's the point of having twins without body swapping shenanigans. Everything else be damned. This is peak writing for very smart people.
"There is not much to look at sir, we are clones after all." "Yes. But in the force, very different you are."' Thanks for reminding me of that scene, make this "wuhuhu I pretent to be my twin" sceme so much more hilarious.
gotta love Smilo's actor putting the ABSOLUTE FINAL FUCKING NAIL in the dumbass cope of "Welllllll, Stranger's not REAAAAAALLLLY a REAL Sith! He hasn't explicitly stated-" No. He's a fucking sith. Stop carrying water for the fucking multi-billion dollar entertainment corporation which couldn't script-write its way out of a paper bag. I had to unsub from several channels over this absolute bullshit where they kept tryna gaslight the fans when we all *very clearly knew* exactly what was going on with this plot point.
I love that we have this discussion now again. How did that turn out for the people who said that Snoke and Kylo aren't Sith, because it's not stated in TFA - and all the typical signs of being a Sith don't count. Something tells me some of those people are the same who cry now too ...
Red sabers are a mark of the sith in the older movies, so either Disney explains whow did he find the knowlaedge to create those or I'm gonna call bulls
Is it not the height of irony that Leslie Headland writes a scene where the male character is wearing only a robe which he then takes off in front of the female character? I mean, there's leaning into the meme, and then there's LEANING into it.
She didn't write it, but this is one of two episodes of the series that she directed, but she only co-directed it. If you look at the credits, Leslye was actually only really involved with the first episode and this episode. Every other episode was directed and written by other people, usually a different writer and director for each.
In this episode, OSHA and Mae are one motion away from easily terminating their intended targets. *Mae doesn’t for no reason, and OSHA doesn’t for WORSE reasoning!*
@@Jasper_Silva It's almost like they're played by the same actress in a way that makes it impossible to distinguish between them because she can't act and they have no attributes or personalities.
@@TheNoonish what do you mean? Mae is angry and Osha just wants to do the right thing. thats all you need for characters. complexity, depth and nuance are for racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic genocide supporters.
Sol’s ship taking off and the other one appearing immediately after is like something out of a comedy sketch. They can’t even do the most basic stuff (one ship leaving and the other one arriving at the same planet) without making it laughably stupid.
"Fun" fact: Smilo Ren is the apprentice of the green Jedi lady. It's been obvious since the last episode, because... they stole the idea from Expanded Universe. Luke was trying to fight a wannabe Sith Lady name Lumiya, who seduced and trained Jacen Solo (the original, better Kylo Ren) in the Dark Side of the Force, but she was difficult to deal with due to her using a lightwhip instead of a lightsaber. So later Luke constructed a new lightsaber shoto (a red one, for some reason) for defensive purposes and this allowed him to finally defeat Lumiya.
Another example of Disney stealing ideas from previous material. Some many cool concepts could’ve done using the legends material, but they instead trashed it and poke at its dead corpse for ideas like a vulture, picking and ripping it apart for their own benefits and pretending it’s “their” own idea. 🤦♂️
@Mr.observer47 I don't care that they're taking ideas from the stuff they axed. I care that they're using it horribly. I get that there's SO much expanded shit and SO much of it can be conflicting and confusing to keep track of. I'd argue that yknow... they do their fucking jobs and figure it all out. but sure, if they wanna axe it all from canon, then go right ahead because it opens up the possibilities of SOOOOO much shit you can do. but they've barely used any of it and used none of it well at all. I'd love to see Darth Nihilus in live action. or just in animation. but I want him done well and not turned into some cringe booty cheeks ass villain.
The problem with the way they present the Sith here is that the writers are so ideologically captured that they genuinely believe stuff like Yord arresting her and the Jedi being against the relationship (with another woman mind you) is clearly equal or worse than this sexy Sith Jedi just killing them all. They have a complete morality failure which is what's causing so many of the stupid things in this show.
A jedi gets a credible accusation that someone murdered someone else. He arrests her. Then after her innocence is cleared, he works with her without suspicion and allows her to participate in the hunt for the real murderer. This is apparently a ready for that jedi to die. What an asshole!
@@TheNoonishSometimes I'm genuinely worried about the people who write these shows, given the downright sociopathic writing on display. Then I remember these people are also massively incompetent and getting paid peanuts.
You know, this kinda makes the Jedi in Episode 3 look far more justified. If a sith serial killer can turn a former jedi to the dark side with 3 questions and a quick glance at his abs, yeah you would need to keep force users away from the dark side by any means possible.
I think the true meaning is that Sol just chose poorly. Osha is the evil twin and Mae just got a bad start - it's like in this one Simpsons-halloween-special, where we learn that Bart's "evil" twin was locked up in the attic. And then Hibbert figures out Bart was the real monster all along.
Jedi burn their dead. They ADR’d in that line about burying the dead because they realized they forgot to have the characters give a sh*t, and they didn’t even get the correct Jedi process.
I don't want to be seen defending the show, but perhaps her saying "bury" is an intentional hint that she's a Sith and not a Jedi. Maybe? Maaaaaaybe?? O.o If I'm right you owe me half a Shlurpo. If I'm wrong I owe you nothing because there's no way the writers are smart enough to do something actually intelligent.
@@Jasper_SilvaYou know, I have a terrifying thought from what someone said. Mohg is Sheev Palpatine. I thought it was a joke at first. But seeing Mohg now I now realise in horror that actually might be what Disney is trying to do. They fucked up Ki's age so why not do the same to Sheev?
"Maybe Osha will flip this time..." *Osha puts on helmet pretending to have a lung disorder* Yeah, she flipped alright...so much for all that Jedi training. Worst Padawan of the Year. No wonder the Jedi booted her out of the Academy. This also means neither Osha, nor Mae, have any redeeming character traits or values...so neither are worth saving.
"Neither are worse saving" But... but... but they're wahmen! Black wahmen at that! They're worth EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!111!!1!11!!1!!1!11111!1! ... yeah I'm pretty sick of this shit, too.
13:00 Lee Jung-Jae continues to carry this show on his back alone. I'm glad that the cast and people in general recognize he's still bringing something to the table and I hope that this won't hurt his career prospects. If anything, it increased my respect for him. He really is just a good actor.
What do you mean? I think this established a lot: Osha will fall for every attractive guy who poses nude in front of her, even if he's a serial killer and Sol turned out to be even dumber than before. So it was great character-work.
I mean, it's only the second filler episode in an 8 episode series I think that's very efficiently establishing that there is no talent involved in the creation of this show
The scars on his back are lightsaber-whiplashes because 400 years of oppression or something. Edit: I know he's not black but details historically haven't stood in the way of these show creators' stupid references.
@@grandarkfang_1482 I believe he's Filipino, and they had a few centuries of mistreatment by white Europeans as well. They just don't have a victim complex over it.
@@grandarkfang_1482 It was more the general message they would be trying to convey if this was in fact from whiplashes, since they normally don't care about anything else than the horrors of American history.
Anakin was gettin' some on the regular from Padme. He needed extra convincing. OSHA has Hybristophilia, and watching all her fellow Jedi get massacred in front of her flipped a switch.
When this show ends, there needs to be a proper fan edit where there is a laugh track at the end of every dumb moment in this show and Pronhub music during the stalker scene.
To be fair to Sol, Mae doesn't have to try hard at all to pretend to be her sister. Both characters are so insanely devoid of personality and purpose that she could have kept up the ruse for years without any effort.
@@BumfluffAddlepate It's vague. And it's probably vague on purpose, so they didn't have to think about it. But we DON'T know how long Luke is on Dagobah training, we DON'T know how long Empire is chasing Millenium Falcon, we don't really know how long they are on Cloud City either. From what we see in the movie it could be hours, days or weeks with us seeing only key points. In OT you can insert a time skip into any hyperspace jump and it works. Disney SW is not vague. It's blatant teleportation.
@@BumfluffAddlepate because it really doesn't. At no point does lack of tangible distance effect the world building. We don't need to know how much time any of the travel takes, we just need to know 'the outer rim' isn't about 15 minutes from the galactic fucking capital.... This is just how abysmal the writing under Disney has become. They can't even grasp the utility of 'vague', it's always exactly what the story needs to get to the payoffs as quickly as possible. They actively draw attention to how blatant the convenience is.... It's such fundamentally awful writing it defies belief sometimes.
"The Outer Rim" 15 minutes travel. This is just teleportation. Hell, this doesn't work logic wise: 15 minutes away is the outer rim? How mucch time does it take to reach an internal planet? 3 minutes taking into account 54 seconds for take off and landing.
That's a weird bad sign with these writers rooms, I remember that kind of sloppy regards to in universe consistency specifically with travel times also showing up in Game of Thrones after season 5 when they started straying further away from the books and running out of good material.
The interactions between the characters aren't the kind of discussions adults have. These are lines taken directly from young adult books and movies. The trope that the plot can only move forward because people hold back info is getting old. Also, these women are 20 something years old and have no motivation or agency based on experiences they would have had during their lifetime. It's really thin and uninteresting.
I’m in awe of how a show can clock in at, roughly, 4 hours and a good 75% of that is useless information, superfluous information, or just butt fucking nothing happening.
"Hm, a bunch of Jedi were murdered. Sol must have suddenly turned crazy and murdered all the team members he brought to the planet for no reason!" Jesus christ, that's quite the fucking leap there for someone who has no context, Mog! Also: "That's the path to the dark side." "Semantics." Fucking how!? Even a Sith would acknowledge the difference between the dark side and the light side and how they interact with the force. And if anybody was allowed to have an actual conversation, Osha would easily counter that.
Does he not now about the fact that two jedi MASTERS are already dead? How do you not conclude that it's the person who killed Inara, or else someone connected to her? But then, I guess Mog doesn't know about anything that's happening since they're not telling the council, so two jedi masters can just die and nobody knows anything about it.
@@TheNoonish Even if he doesn't know anything about why they were there, it's such a leap in logic to go "Ah, a respected jedi master just suddenly turned evil. Nobody else could have beaten jedi masters!".
Mog is just there to look like a weak incompetent male so the green wahman can seem strong and intelligent by comparison. It's the only way feminists know how to write strong female characters. What if we just make the men look weak? Brilliant!
A Jedi who served for over sixteen years. Trained at least two Padawans (Osha and Jecka) and was so important and respected he was allowed to lead a contingent of Jedi to a planet. A lot of Jedi btw.
So not only did he absolutely dominate against multiple Jedi knights and against a Master, he did so BLIND!!!!!!!! WT-Absolute-F! Also what a nothing burger of an episode. Also also, shouldn't Sol be freaking out wondering where Osha is? Like does he not care?
I pointed this out on TikTok and some idiot replied to say that I clearly hadn’t seen the episode because the mask is meant for sensory deprivation like the younglings’ helmets. My immediate response was to ask why there would be eyeholes at all, since surely the pinpricks of light coming in would be more distracting than anything else.
He didn't care when Jecka and Yord died. He just let it happen. Why would he care about some person he's not seen in 16 years? Jecka cared more about her and they've known each other for less than a day. Dude didn't even care his former teammates from that Lesbian Witch convent mission were dying despite supposedly knowing them for years. Or when Joffrey's brother got tortured in front of him.
In about 3 episodes we have gone from "I live for revenge" to "I'm done with this" to "I don't care what happens I just want to be with my sister" to "I actually do care and don't want to get arrested" to "I'll impersonate my sister to get revenge" to "Maybe I won't get revenge after all cause the Jedi looks sad" and mirroring that we have "The Jedi are good" to "The sith are kinda hot". What an absolute skidmark of a show. You can tell they cut and spliced a LOT of the script here because character motivation is flying wildly in all directions and people are teleporting to where they need to be.
Leslie Headland claims this was a passion project she greatly cared about, and she had over 3 years to work on it. There's not enough story here to fill 8 relatively short episodes. The entire purpose of this one is to tease things out so they could do the big reveal in the next episode. It's absolutely shocking. You can make a show that has episodes where the characters aren't doing much, and it's still telling a story. Maybe they're simply doing basic maintenance on their equipment and that allows the audience to learn more about what a routine day is like for the character, and they can do things and express themselves in unique ways as they do things. It can be "filler," but if you've got characters, just spending time with the characters itself allows you to craft a story. There are no characters here. Nobody has traits that define how they feel, nobody has a routine they engage in every day, nobody has a history that is expressed through their decisions and their actions. So we're just waiting for the episode to stop dicking around enough to tell us what the plot is, and this episode's plot is "Delay until the next episode which has a bit of plot." It's even worse than just random Mando sidequests, where he at least has to do or see something new (which is equally vapid and stupid, but at least there's a reason the story starts and ends). There is such a lack of interest in telling a story here.
From what I heard elsewhere, she re-wrote the last several episodes solely because of Smilo Ren's popularity with her crew when filming earlier episodes. So yeah, she spent years getting approval fro an IDEA she had but basically wrote it as she went along.
I hate and have always hated a light whip because it's purely an aggressive weapon. It's not made for defence, you can't block with it, you can only relentlessly attack. It's not precise, or elegant, it can't be a tool, or have any other utility besides attacking. It's barbaric and completely antithetical to everything a Jedi should stand for and represent.
Funny you should say that cause the character the creators stole the light whip thing from in the EU is a purely aggressive sith. Like they know literally nothing about storytelling beyond "ooh, it looks cool, I want it!"
@@mrmcawesome9746The EU version of the Lightwhip made more sense technologically as well. It had an actual physical cable covered in tiny filaments that ignited together when activated. Making it a floppy plasma noodle is fucking hilarious and stupid.
Smile-o Ren's counter arguments to Osha's accusations are pure narcissism; Yord arrested YOU, (never mind that he was following evidence and doing his job), and Jackie would never get together with YOU, (because her young life apparently worthless if she isnt with Osha).
The extent that time and distance means nothing in this show is impressive. In the hour to hour and a half, that master Squid was in orbit after sending his message easage to the Jedi on Coruscant, the Jedi 1. Received the message and presumably unscrambled or somehow recovered it, then listened to it and realized the importance of the message. 2. Found Master Nepo and told her about the message. She seems pretty important and may have a good amount of things to do and may not be available or easy to find. 3. Master Nepo hears the message and makes a decision to send back up and to go herself to see what happened. 4. She then decides who is going with and contacts them to let them know they need to get ready to go as soon as possible. This is going to take time unless you've got a Jedi quick reaction team permanently on stand by. Given that in the grand scheme of things, there aren't that many Jedi, a quick reaction team is unlikely. 5. Master Nepo and the Jedi who are going to investigate the incident need to travel to wherever the Jedi keep their space ships, prepare one for take off. Submit a flight plan to whoever runs the airspace over Coruscant and get that plan approved. The Jedi ship then needs to clear the planet and probably wait to use a specific hyperspace lane because given the amount of space traffic on Coruscant, you probably can't just jump in and out of near Coruscant space with out the danger of running into an incoming or out going ship. 6. FINALLY, they need to actually travel from Coruscant to the planet in the Outer Rim. There's a reason it's called the Outer Rim, by the way. It's really, really, really far from the core planatary systems at whose core is Coruscant. It should take a decent amount of time to travel there! Traveling by hyperdrive, no matter how fast it is, still takes TIME! It's not teleportation. So the fact that Master Nepo and her team of Jedi can do all that in the hour to hour and a half Master Squid Game was in orbit is utterly ridiculous. This show can't even get the most simple things correct.
@lordmontymord8701 Lol, how could I have forgotten about those? They must have run out of them in the next hundred years cause they never seem to use them again.
@@beowulfsrevenge4369 Until they are miraculously rediscovered for the sequel trilogy given the way they are bouncing around all over in Rise of Skywalker within a very short time frame (seriously doesn't Palpatine say he will attack within a day or so?).
Don't forget that Mae and Sol are on their ship at the end of the episode, taking off, while Smilo Ren finds Osha. So let's examine what Smilo Ren did. 1) Scooped Osha up and carried her, unconscious, all the way back to HIS ship, also through the jungle. 2) Piloted his ship to a different planet. 3) Landed his ship on a different planet. 4) Carried Osha inside and gave her some kind of treatment for her injury. 5) Had enough time for the tide to apparently come in. 6) Wandered off. In the meantime, Sol and Mae have reached orbit after taking off. This show has no interest in internal continuity.
The fact that Disney keeps the Clone Wars 3D series as canon despite multiple times the long times between warps were mentioned (some took days to get to places closer to Coruscant than Kelnakas world) is so fucking funny. They just love to ruin their own shows.
For anyone who's seen "A New Hope," if Mae could easily rest Osha's droid to its orginal factory settings, then why did Uncle Owen (100 years later, mind you) needed Luke to take R2-D2 to Anchorhead to have his memory erased? Couldn't he have just hit the reset button? Leslye Headland: "Consistency, what's that?"
It also makes the whole "are droids sentient beings?" question all the more disturbing. Plus, they _just_ did a whole stupid episode about droids being people on The Mandalorian.
My issue is how easy it would be. She pressed and holds like 2 buttons, that's how you take a screenshot on most phones. You know how many accidental screen shots I take? Imagine accidently resetting your primary device to factory settings every couple days.
@@mattparsons2045 Yeah, it's ridiculous. It also takes away some of the uniqueness of the droids, imo. It seemed like some of the droids were very special in their designs that someone would have to take them to specific facilities to have them re-programmed. Acolyte makes them no more special than an I-phone in your pocket.
@@tyrannozilla the only thing that is give them is that this seems halfway between a droid and a mutlitool. It's the age old question of why would you give a toaster feelings
1:50 Y'alls predictive abilities are waning. Obviously, the communications console won't be able to tell which way is up without a command ship nearby, and therefore the signals won't go towards the intended recipients.
"They have no principals or convictions" - It is as they say "a character is only as smart as the writer". A writer with no morals, principals or convictions is going to have a rough time writing a charcter who has them.
sooo he asks her if it 'feels good?' when she's holding on to his two handed lightsabre... and 'instructs' her how to hold it better for a 'quicker block' and she doesn't turn it on... what you doing disney i mean really
These god awful Disney shows are designed to be watched once and never again. There's no longevity, after you learn what the "great mysteries" are there's no point in repeated viewing. Honestly the only way I'm able to follow the acolyte is by watching you all shit on it. Keep up the good work. 👍
This is perfect, just perfect. People are telling me that this is actually good. I say Osha is an 11 out of 10 on the Padme-murderboner-skale. If it really takes not more than this to convince her AND she falls for Smilo because hot, then i think there will be a switch in the end: She's the evil twin and Mae, who actually has a reason to hate the Jedi (because it's 100 % clear they are responsible for the death of her mothers), will see that things are not that easy and repent. And Sol is just an idiot.
Nobody can convince me that this pointless episode wasn't made in strong part for Headland's wife to get a sort of girl boss moment with her whip and a chance to embarrass/emasculate a scrawny white male character. Since, despite how bad at writing they all seem to be, they couldn't find a way to shoe-horn her into the finale that didn't cut time for the Osha/Mae OC fanfic. That, and to force Green Bean's character into the script to have her on set needlessly again so she gets paid more for her time. This Green Bean character has never served any purpose to the plot, most could have been cut, and what remained could have been done through a hologram conversation, filmed in a near empty set against a green screen delivering basic orders to Sol and co. The other reason this episode exists is make Osha and Mae's incomprehensible characters suddenly change motivations for the 100th time to set up the last two episode set pieces and story beats that Headland wants to ram into this show (like some awful shipping with the bad boy trope) and IP, regardless of making a lick of sense with anything else she's Frankenstein'd into this corpse.
The twins are going to flip and Smilo is just a Sith apprentice looking to have his own so he can take HIS master who is actually the REAL BBEG ...which will be Saber whip lady or one of the twins mothers. Just what i sense is going on because this is textbook Filoni writing 101. He's done this multiple times throughout Clone Wars and Rebels and i see no reason for them to change formula now.
Still waiting for Mauler's KotOR streams. Would love to hear his opinion on what most consider one of the best EU stories. Can't believe he hasn't played them.
The most interesting thing they've probably done with Smilo Ren is briefly address the idea that the Jedi are "less than human" because of their practice of shunning (it's supposed to be controlling but seldom comes across as such) their emotions and attachments. Of course, this has been much more thoroughly explored in EU material, such as KotOR 2.
People say Anakins turn was quick af Took Palpatine years of eroding Anakin's faith in the Jedi and give in to the dark Osha sees Qimir's 'lightsaber', feels it throbbing in her hand. We dont know exactly how long she was there but its filmed like she turned in less than a day Also note, a powerful man takes the sister of woman he's "raised" since she was orphaned, now doing the same to her sister after kidnapping her. Is this empowerment?
This is probably the first time ever for me, where a show could have done better without the main plot. That being the twins plot. Take out the Twins, the lesbian witches, and make Smilo the main bad guy, keep the mystery who done it through the entire season, and you have yourself a significantly better story by default.
The Acol-izers. 🎶Bazil the Kungfu Beaver🎶 Maybe the writer thinks sensory-deprivation means it blocks mind-control. It's obviously not SD, it has eye-holes and ear-holes. The grinning teeth make it look like a Hallowe'en mask.
Imagine if the second Jedi ship had arrived just two seconds earlier and they'd both become space dust when the first crashed into it entering hyperspace? Funny how -Venestra- Handsome Squidward didn't need a guide. And just for a little extra soul crushing, based on some estimates I've seen online an episode of DS9 was about 2 million. That would make it roughly 4 million adjusted for inflation today. That napkin math would make these 8 episodes the equivalent investment to *45* DS9 episodes. Meditate on that.
This has the same budget per episode as House of the Dragon and Andor - i think that's even more depressing. Going for Nu Trek: SNW costs only 7 mio. per episode ... Btw.: Wasn't the idea behind the Volume to save money?
"Write what you know"
Leslye: Kidnaps woman and pose nude infront of them
Ah yes...the Weinstein side of the force
She was his Weinstein’s personal assistant, after all! Learn from the best…
On an island no less.
Tut tut how can you insinuate those things about her best bit of fiction.
She really belongs in prison.
"I'm not easily corrupted."
*Gets easily corrupted*
It's like terrible poetry, it doesn't rhyme.
Women.
He was packing “the power of one” down there
It only took her a few inches.
“I forgot you could corrupt me with things I want” -Osha Oshing Rodríguez
If I had a nickel for every time a Disney Star Wars heroine decided to forgive the dark side villain because they saw them without their clothes on I'd have two nickels... which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it's happened twice.
@terrasur4168 and they're both tall, dark, and swole.
Coincidence? I THINK NOT!
Its one of their fetishes
@@austin9568AuraMasterDX they’re both conspicuously not dark, though.
Not only forgive, but to actively side with the antagonist is beyond the pale, but Smilo was fully unclothed unlike Kylo so it checks out.
It's actually the greatest force power the dark side can master. Force abs, force glutes, force cock. No light side user can resist 🤷
The power of Rag's's's
The power of Mauler
The power of Friiiiiinggyyy
The power of the Dark Brood of the Toxic Spawn
The power of many!
The power of One FAP
The power of Two FAP
The power of EEEEEEEFAP
"You killed that girl I kinda liked!"
"Yeah but you didn't like her *that* much, right?"
"Oh, good point. I forgot that a person's life has no intrinsic value beyond what they have to offer me in particular. One evil helmet, please!"
She was raised by lesbians, seeing Smilo naked to her was a massive revelations that there are other tools to use, so she forgets the tradition of her mothers, the way of the multiple orgasms, in favour of the corrupted way of the curved sabre, the style that can hit the G-spot better
I have aspd and that last sentence hit so hard lol
I don’t think it was “Yeah but you didn’t like her that much right?”
I thought it was “Yeah but you guys probably couldn’t like hook up or anything right?”
Pretty sure everything else you had was right on the money though.
Just a quick reminder to everyone that there is still a container of Phrik floating around the galaxy in the Star Wars universe
HEHAAAAAAAAAY!
And one fateful day it's going to open and Phrik all over the plae.
It'll finally be Phrikin' time!
Doing the lords work
What the phrik
Get the phrik outta here 😅😂
So weird Headland wanted a scene where a man takes an unconscious woman to his home, gets newd in her presence, and then strolls out of the bath with everything hanging out before he tries to seduce her to cast off her old life and consider a new villainous career of doing whatever the hell you want, to get what you, at the cost of others.
"Write what you know"
Nerdrotic.
Self help therapy session someone's jealous Harvey never wanted her spungebob jaw
She worked for Harvey Weinstein.
now, now, I'm sure it's just a coincidence considering her past employer
@@benjaminsnyder9587 I know. I'm being sarcastic.
Sad Fact: As a bridge worker in construction, the average cost of building an entirely new bridge in my state (assuming there's no refurbishing work) is approximately 3 million. That's for four lanes and about 500 ft. So every episode of the Acolyte is equal to about 7 bridges on average in the United States. (my state falls on the average mean). Not only are you getting sustainable infrastructure for at least 30 years but you're also providing work for approximately 25 to 50 people for almost a year with that many to do. All for 30 minutes of this show.
It has to be accounting tricks to cover loses from other areas, $180 million is ridiculous. Dune 2 cost less and tells way more story and is visually superb, Disney stuff looks crap because they rely to much on CGI rather than locations and practical effects. Yea when you put into perspective what the money they piss away could be spent on its sad, and then they all lecture us about the environment and socialism.
@@dmac318310m more dune 2 had. Still that's embarrassing AF because they are probably the same length in the end. The quality, that's just a joke to compare lol.
Yeah, I hadn't written that on social media because I didn't want to sound too serious, but you can also think of the equipment it would mean in the health sector...
Yes but making propaganda will influence people which is more valuable to them and their agenda than bridges.
@timbothejedi4146 glad someone can see my comment because I can't (strange). Yea your right these episodes are so short if you remove credits,intro and recap it probably is the same length as Dune. I don't watch it but I watch EFAPs watchalongs.
*Smilo's Darksaber got Osha acting unwise*
The dong side of the force is a pathway to many positions some would consider unnatural...
*looks down at a limp noodle*
I've been dead before
But is it red?
She about to get vadered.
Shocks it back to life with force lighting 😂
If only they could have added the brilliant line " TELL THAT TO YORD'S SNAPPED NECK"
Get stuckmanyyyyyyyyyyyd
Ah you beat me to this joke lmao
Where were you raised? On an Unknown Planet?
"That man corrupted your sister." No Sol, I think the coven of darkside, lesbian, space witches did that, given that she tried to kill her own sister when she tried to leave. But no, blame the Sith Lord, who just lucked out on finding a child who was already conditioned to be a psyco murderer, because god forbid we hold women accountable for their evil actions in a Star Wars show.
Which funny because the "if theres an evil woman there's a man who made her that way" trope is usually considered pretty sexist
Didn't Sol slap Not Ezra around when he didn't have his helmet on?
@@megapixzel I mean, seems like Osha and May are easily corruptable by his looks...
What a straaaange message for Leslye to support, don't ya think? 🤔
-he corrupted your sister
-he probably just showed her his penis
Osha: “Sol’s strength to the Force is very powerful.”
The same man who can’t sense that Mae is not Osha
At this point the powers of all the Jedi have fluctuated so wildly between scenes that I'm not even sure how powerful anyone is anymore.
One second Sol is forcefully reading a guy's mind, the next he can't tell the sisters apart. One minute his padawan is an actual student doing basic lessons, the next she's competently fighting an alleged not-Sith.
There are no rules, they're always precisely as strong or weak enough to perform whatever action the writers want.
To be fair with Amandla's acting the audience can't tell which is which either
@@sweetpeaches6955 I expected him to say: Yeah, I fought him, duh. The power of my cape is stronger btw.
That such a "translated from chinese via hoogle" sentence
It was labeled "Unknown Planet" because the writers don't know what planet it was.
Perhaps that's kiadi mundi's home world.
Or they had it labeled unknown during shooting then forgot to name it
More like they did not want anyone to check if that planet makes any kind of sense lore wise
Planet Bul Shittet.
I get the vibes that in one of the remaining episodes, they're going to pull a Rings of Power supermove and have "Unknown Planet" actually morph into a planet name that's known to diehard fans. I mean like, otherwise, there's no point in labeling it unknown. It remaining unlabeled would accomplish the same thing. So, the title must exist to be altered. Right?
Unless of course, in episode 7, we get an establishing shot with "Unknown Planet" AGAIN, to confirm we are on that same unknown planet.
The twins didn’t flip flop, they just forgot their own names.
Can't wait for the reveal that Osha was Mae and Mae was Osha in the flashback.
Maybe if we are lucky they will do a fusion dance in the last episode and turn into Super Mosha to fight Smilo, Sol and Leslye's wife at the same time.
@@Arko777777I can definitely imagine these "writers" pulling this out of their ass in the final episode
@@reginaphalange9417 You know, now that I'm thinking about this... it might be the way they go about it. Jedi had to brainwash Osha to behave, while Mae ran away and found Qimir.
Man, and that would add to the "there is no good or evil in Star Wars" that they want to push... Oh, jeez...
Im so sure thats honna happen
Writer 1:How is our stalwart character going to be seduced into the dark side?
Writer 2: Wowowo repeat that word.
Writer 1: Stalwart?
Writer 2: No, the sex one.
Writer 1: ...Seduce?
Writer 2: I've got an idea.
Absolute Cinema. Lesley really took "write what you know" to heart.
You joke, but that's litreally her explanation of this, that she always loved how Obi-Wan described Anakin as being 'seduced' to the dark side.
@@nobody2996 Against my own will, I'm now picturing Palpatine doing a sexy poledance for Anakin.
@@idiotcubeHe was feeling a lot more than Anakin’s anger, if you know what I mean.
@@idiotcube well he's not called Creamy Sheev for nothing, if you know what i'm getting at
Nobody: "Remember when he tried to kill her last episode? Why did he do that? And if that was his motivation, why is he trying to seduce her right now?"
Writers: "...."
"Prepare these bodies for burial" Um, don't you cremate Jedi?
I have every confidence this is the *origin* story for why they instead burn their dead 130 years from now!
You see Jedi Mistress Green Bean will have the bodies awaiting burial aboard a ship, but Smilo Ren resurrects them (with the established Ahsoka-witch powers), so to avoid this ever happening again, it becomes the jedi way to cremate.
@@kylefrank638 at this point, everything happened here will be retcon as of "why" it happened later on with canon story
fucking grill me pls
Are you expecting anyone on the writing team to know something of Star Wars outside the sequel trilogy? Knowing one thing is asking too much out of these people x)
@@kylefrank638 they added that line in after
@@oldschool8330 No yeah. Me was dabbling in a bit of memeing
Disney protagonists are unable to resist the urge to fall for shirtless, murderous men. No matter the events leading up to their meeting (or lack of events).
Women always simp for murderers.
Shows how morally strong our protagonist is if she’s got corrupted right away thanks to a naked man
@@nont18411 A life of nothing but enforced feminism will do that to ya, it seems.
@@cattrucker8257 There's a reason that "f**ked straight" is such a popular theme in certain women's erotica.
Their one weakness 💀
I just love how two episodes ago, every Disney shill was endlessly mocking all of us for still taking EU canon seriously, and now they keep pointing to it to defend most of the sh*t that’s happened in the past two episodes.
They were? 🤔
I don't pay much attention to what the Disney Supporters say.
@@johannesseyfried7933 Wisdom.
I love how in the same breath they’re able to say that anyone who hasn’t heard of Cortosis is an ignoramus, but also say that anyone who knows the longstanding canon backstory of Ki-Adi-Mundi is pretentious or some shit.
@@Phoenix0F8 Thank you, but I am still curious.
What do they say?
Explain
Fans: "His genitals are made from a material called Dongosis, it's really rare, and it can turn anything it touches into a lightsaber. This doesn't break canon because it was mentioned in this one sentence from this one book."
The book is actually a piece of promotional material from the last jedi. Its still "canon" 😅
What they didn't know is that this was from a digital book, only available through a... CD-ROM.
I think I have read this book before, but strangely I couldn’t find it in the sci-fi section of the book store. In fact, I’ve seen this book when browsing the web on incognito mode.
Naw, Dongosis is a material that turn women to the dark side. Lesbian witches had no men to protect themselves from its influence, but Ossie fell to its might.
😂😂😂
"It feels good to hold my lightsaber in your hand, doesn't it?"
Nahhh stfu that's just diabolical
"My evil sith demeanor is up here."
"Oh, sorry."
"Sorry for what? Daddy told me not to be ashamed of my lightsaber."
“And I see your Schwartz is as big as mine!”
@@BumfluffAddlepate Depends on if it's a female one...
I’m getting tired of this “jedi do not attack the unarmed” thing that this show has made up
Which really doesn't make sense when dealing with force users who are always armed.
Yeah it's like one of the writers saw the scene where Luke throws away his lightsaber through a reccomendation on youtube and made the rule based off that.
If they saw the Mace Windu vs Palpatine scene on youtube maybe they wouldn't have made that rule.
"Lightsabers wont harm Jedi!"
*kills 8 with it*
"Misunderstood, you have, Padawan. Attack the unarmed, Jedi do not, since with arms already sliced off, no further need is there."
@@2ndlegend125 No: They are not armed then. Because if they were then Smilo's stupid "an Acolyte kills without weapons"-line wouldn't make any sense. And we can't have that.
So a Jedi Master can't distinguish between two Force users that have very different psyches, ideals and emotions, but an otter can distinguish between two identical twins wearing each other clothes? Obviously they wouldn't smell identically due to diet, environment and stuff, but still.
Bare in mind, Jedi can easily recognize CLONES.
Jedi can recognize a person's "presence" in the force.
They're also telepathic, and if you're not locking down your mind, they can read your thoughts without even trying.
Well, they're supposed to be able to do that. It's just some useless lore established in the movies
Also, a huge white mark on their forehead
Yoda a master jedi can literally sense from across the galaxy.
Especially during order 66, he felt something horrible
But you see, what's the point of having twins without body swapping shenanigans. Everything else be damned. This is peak writing for very smart people.
"There is not much to look at sir, we are clones after all."
"Yes. But in the force, very different you are."'
Thanks for reminding me of that scene, make this "wuhuhu I pretent to be my twin" sceme so much more hilarious.
gotta love Smilo's actor putting the ABSOLUTE FINAL FUCKING NAIL in the dumbass cope of "Welllllll, Stranger's not REAAAAAALLLLY a REAL Sith! He hasn't explicitly stated-"
No. He's a fucking sith. Stop carrying water for the fucking multi-billion dollar entertainment corporation which couldn't script-write its way out of a paper bag. I had to unsub from several channels over this absolute bullshit where they kept tryna gaslight the fans when we all *very clearly knew* exactly what was going on with this plot point.
I love that we have this discussion now again. How did that turn out for the people who said that Snoke and Kylo aren't Sith, because it's not stated in TFA - and all the typical signs of being a Sith don't count.
Something tells me some of those people are the same who cry now too ...
I need a count of every interveiw pre show when siths are mentioned and she said "it's about a sith acolyte" lol
It’s starting to get irritating
Red sabers are a mark of the sith in the older movies, so either Disney explains whow did he find the knowlaedge to create those or I'm gonna call bulls
@@luispalao74184️⃣
Is it not the height of irony that Leslie Headland writes a scene where the male character is wearing only a robe which he then takes off in front of the female character? I mean, there's leaning into the meme, and then there's LEANING into it.
but he's evil. it's a commentary on how all men think its a privilege for women to see men naked and that makes all men sith.
She didn't write it, but this is one of two episodes of the series that she directed, but she only co-directed it.
If you look at the credits, Leslye was actually only really involved with the first episode and this episode. Every other episode was directed and written by other people, usually a different writer and director for each.
The only difference is, the woman in Acoshite isn't tied down and naked, and the guy isn't an uglier version of Jabba the Hutt.
In this episode, OSHA and Mae are one motion away from easily terminating their intended targets.
*Mae doesn’t for no reason, and OSHA doesn’t for WORSE reasoning!*
They really ARE sisters, aren't they?
@@Jasper_Silva It's almost like they're played by the same actress in a way that makes it impossible to distinguish between them because she can't act and they have no attributes or personalities.
@@TheNoonish
what do you mean?
Mae is angry and Osha just wants to do the right thing.
thats all you need for characters. complexity, depth and nuance are for racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic genocide supporters.
Sol’s ship taking off and the other one appearing immediately after is like something out of a comedy sketch. They can’t even do the most basic stuff (one ship leaving and the other one arriving at the same planet) without making it laughably stupid.
"Fun" fact: Smilo Ren is the apprentice of the green Jedi lady. It's been obvious since the last episode, because... they stole the idea from Expanded Universe.
Luke was trying to fight a wannabe Sith Lady name Lumiya, who seduced and trained Jacen Solo (the original, better Kylo Ren) in the Dark Side of the Force, but she was difficult to deal with due to her using a lightwhip instead of a lightsaber. So later Luke constructed a new lightsaber shoto (a red one, for some reason) for defensive purposes and this allowed him to finally defeat Lumiya.
Back in the day, lots of people had red lightsabers.
Exactly from the very start it’s obvious that she is gonna be the one at the end that steps out as the secret traitor to Jedi
Another example of Disney stealing ideas from previous material. Some many cool concepts could’ve done using the legends material, but they instead trashed it and poke at its dead corpse for ideas like a vulture, picking and ripping it apart for their own benefits and pretending it’s “their” own idea. 🤦♂️
@Mr.observer47
I don't care that they're taking ideas from the stuff they axed. I care that they're using it horribly.
I get that there's SO much expanded shit and SO much of it can be conflicting and confusing to keep track of. I'd argue that yknow... they do their fucking jobs and figure it all out. but sure, if they wanna axe it all from canon, then go right ahead because it opens up the possibilities of SOOOOO much shit you can do. but they've barely used any of it and used none of it well at all.
I'd love to see Darth Nihilus in live action. or just in animation. but I want him done well and not turned into some cringe booty cheeks ass villain.
Luke did fall to the dark side for a time in Legends also.
The problem with the way they present the Sith here is that the writers are so ideologically captured that they genuinely believe stuff like Yord arresting her and the Jedi being against the relationship (with another woman mind you) is clearly equal or worse than this sexy Sith Jedi just killing them all. They have a complete morality failure which is what's causing so many of the stupid things in this show.
The people making this show are fanatics. They are evil people that really thinks they are the good guys.
A jedi gets a credible accusation that someone murdered someone else. He arrests her. Then after her innocence is cleared, he works with her without suspicion and allows her to participate in the hunt for the real murderer.
This is apparently a ready for that jedi to die. What an asshole!
@@TheNoonishSometimes I'm genuinely worried about the people who write these shows, given the downright sociopathic writing on display. Then I remember these people are also massively incompetent and getting paid peanuts.
The guy's name is Mog. Half man, half dog - and his own best friend 🐶
OMG.. thank you for that!😂
I want him to suddenly defeat everyone in the end and walk off into the sunset as the new protagonist. Mawg deserves, in memory of the original.
Why are you still watching this? Don't you know there are starving children in Africa???
the starving kids should be sending us charity; we're the ones who've had to suffer through watching the Acolyte
When do I get africa to pay me Millions of $$$$?
They'll never live that down
"Spiderman's coming out! SPIDERMAN!"
@@SamtheBravesFan They shouldn't be allowed to
You know, this kinda makes the Jedi in Episode 3 look far more justified.
If a sith serial killer can turn a former jedi to the dark side with 3 questions and a quick glance at his abs, yeah you would need to keep force users away from the dark side by any means possible.
I think the true meaning is that Sol just chose poorly. Osha is the evil twin and Mae just got a bad start - it's like in this one Simpsons-halloween-special, where we learn that Bart's "evil" twin was locked up in the attic. And then Hibbert figures out Bart was the real monster all along.
“Abs”
@@lordvarrax5060 penis
Jedi burn their dead. They ADR’d in that line about burying the dead because they realized they forgot to have the characters give a sh*t, and they didn’t even get the correct Jedi process.
I don't want to be seen defending the show, but perhaps her saying "bury" is an intentional hint that she's a Sith and not a Jedi. Maybe? Maaaaaaybe?? O.o
If I'm right you owe me half a Shlurpo. If I'm wrong I owe you nothing because there's no way the writers are smart enough to do something actually intelligent.
@@casbynessWhy would she be saying that to Mog though? Are you saying mog is also a sith? Darth Mog??
@@Jasper_Silva Sounds like an awesome Star Wars/Final Fantasy cross-over.
@@Jasper_SilvaGreen Bean's real name is Darth Meg. Meg and Mog, now in Star Wars form.
@@Jasper_SilvaYou know, I have a terrifying thought from what someone said. Mohg is Sheev Palpatine. I thought it was a joke at first. But seeing Mohg now I now realise in horror that actually might be what Disney is trying to do. They fucked up Ki's age so why not do the same to Sheev?
"Maybe Osha will flip this time..."
*Osha puts on helmet pretending to have a lung disorder*
Yeah, she flipped alright...so much for all that Jedi training. Worst Padawan of the Year. No wonder the Jedi booted her out of the Academy. This also means neither Osha, nor Mae, have any redeeming character traits or values...so neither are worth saving.
"Neither are worse saving"
But... but... but they're wahmen! Black wahmen at that! They're worth EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!111!!1!11!!1!!1!11111!1!
... yeah I'm pretty sick of this shit, too.
@@Phoenix0F8 Half-black, as much as she tries to pretend that isn't the case.
@@billjacobs521 The two together make one full black woman then.
@@Jasper_SilvaWith our powers combined I am Captain Allblack.
13:00 Lee Jung-Jae continues to carry this show on his back alone. I'm glad that the cast and people in general recognize he's still bringing something to the table and I hope that this won't hurt his career prospects. If anything, it increased my respect for him. He really is just a good actor.
“His strength is powerful” is such a wonky line, only there to set up the next one.
The writer's intelligence is smart.
It pretty much only works for an RPG character creation screen--I'd say "powerful" is, what, 8/10?
"My sword is my blade"
The Shlurpolite, Episode 6:
This week, Bad Shlurpo becomes Good Shlurpo and Good Shlurpo becomes Bad Shlurpo. More news at 11 after the Weather.
WHERE'S GLUBB SHITTO!?!?!?!
Writing room.
- What kind of characters are there?
- Stoic.
That'll be all.
I really hope in the last episode they change the font for the "Unknown Planet" and write "MORDOR".
The music better be super dramatic to let us know it's a dramatic reveal.
“MUSTAFAR.”
Osha puts a lightsaber into a keyhole and the world explodes in volcanoes.
It's insane how little is accomplished in this episode.
What do you mean? I think this established a lot: Osha will fall for every attractive guy who poses nude in front of her, even if he's a serial killer and Sol turned out to be even dumber than before. So it was great character-work.
I mean, it's only the second filler episode in an 8 episode series
I think that's very efficiently establishing that there is no talent involved in the creation of this show
The scars on his back are lightsaber-whiplashes because 400 years of oppression or something.
Edit: I know he's not black but details historically haven't stood in the way of these show creators' stupid references.
Isn't the actor not Black?
@@grandarkfang_1482You should read Hiddel Subbeldees' books
@@grandarkfang_1482 I believe he's Filipino, and they had a few centuries of mistreatment by white Europeans as well. They just don't have a victim complex over it.
@@grandarkfang_1482 It was more the general message they would be trying to convey if this was in fact from whiplashes, since they normally don't care about anything else than the horrors of American history.
HOW DID WE GO FROM WHIPS AND CHAINS TO WHIPS AND CHAINS
Seriously, the writers have no idea what they had. Just make a show about Smilo. Blank face 1 and blank face 2 are terrible lead "characters".
Smilo's stonks rose drastically since he disposed of almost all the stupid people coming after him
"I apologize, I wasnt familiar with your game"
They are just diversity hires.
Smilo is the only close to interesting thing about this show, but I imagine he's not gay enough for the vision they had.
Fifty Shades of RED! Grace Randolph is getting worked up and jilling up a storm as we speak!
Bro why would you put that image in my head
@@jackwhite2654 because I don't like to suffer alone.
Her neighbors are thinking "the fuck is that sound? Is a horse dying next door?"
@@BumfluffAddlepate you gave me ED
“SOOOOOOOO…”
(Make it stop, make it stop, make it stop!)
The fact that that Jedi has the same name as a character from spaceballs is amazing
Jedi Master Pizza the Hutt
"I'm Mog, I'm my own best friend"
Palpatine had to build a whole plan and foster good will and rapport to make Anakin turn, this chick just goes "oh ok"
Anakin was male. Osha Mae is a girl. That's the difference.
Not me saying it, literally just the actual writing.
Anakin was gettin' some on the regular from Padme. He needed extra convincing.
OSHA has Hybristophilia, and watching all her fellow Jedi get massacred in front of her flipped a switch.
@@cattrucker8257It really does pose some awkward questions, doesn't it?
All Sheev had to do was disrobe and bam! Instant Sith turn for Anakin.
When this show ends, there needs to be a proper fan edit where there is a laugh track at the end of every dumb moment in this show and Pronhub music during the stalker scene.
To be fair to Sol, Mae doesn't have to try hard at all to pretend to be her sister. Both characters are so insanely devoid of personality and purpose that she could have kept up the ruse for years without any effort.
Except for the giant white tattoo on her forehead 😂😂. But yeah, I get your point.
Hyperspace was basically teleportation since TFA. It's funny how people are still surprised by that.
@@BumfluffAddlepate It's vague. And it's probably vague on purpose, so they didn't have to think about it.
But we DON'T know how long Luke is on Dagobah training, we DON'T know how long Empire is chasing Millenium Falcon, we don't really know how long they are on Cloud City either. From what we see in the movie it could be hours, days or weeks with us seeing only key points. In OT you can insert a time skip into any hyperspace jump and it works.
Disney SW is not vague. It's blatant teleportation.
@@BumfluffAddlepate because it really doesn't. At no point does lack of tangible distance effect the world building. We don't need to know how much time any of the travel takes, we just need to know 'the outer rim' isn't about 15 minutes from the galactic fucking capital....
This is just how abysmal the writing under Disney has become. They can't even grasp the utility of 'vague', it's always exactly what the story needs to get to the payoffs as quickly as possible. They actively draw attention to how blatant the convenience is.... It's such fundamentally awful writing it defies belief sometimes.
"The Outer Rim" 15 minutes travel. This is just teleportation. Hell, this doesn't work logic wise: 15 minutes away is the outer rim? How mucch time does it take to reach an internal planet? 3 minutes taking into account 54 seconds for take off and landing.
That's a weird bad sign with these writers rooms, I remember that kind of sloppy regards to in universe consistency specifically with travel times also showing up in Game of Thrones after season 5 when they started straying further away from the books and running out of good material.
Jecki lying there dead for one frame...
Best acting in this entire show
So not only did Sol completely abandon the bodies of his fallen comrades, he couldn't even bother going around to close their eyes and mourn a little.
@reignman30 no time to mourn, we got to get to the next cringe!
The interactions between the characters aren't the kind of discussions adults have. These are lines taken directly from young adult books and movies. The trope that the plot can only move forward because people hold back info is getting old. Also, these women are 20 something years old and have no motivation or agency based on experiences they would have had during their lifetime. It's really thin and uninteresting.
I’m in awe of how a show can clock in at, roughly, 4 hours and a good 75% of that is useless information, superfluous information, or just butt fucking nothing happening.
Leslye should've casted someone looking like Harvey Weinstein for smilo ren for those scenes to be accurate to her experience
"Hm, a bunch of Jedi were murdered. Sol must have suddenly turned crazy and murdered all the team members he brought to the planet for no reason!"
Jesus christ, that's quite the fucking leap there for someone who has no context, Mog!
Also:
"That's the path to the dark side." "Semantics." Fucking how!? Even a Sith would acknowledge the difference between the dark side and the light side and how they interact with the force. And if anybody was allowed to have an actual conversation, Osha would easily counter that.
Does he not now about the fact that two jedi MASTERS are already dead? How do you not conclude that it's the person who killed Inara, or else someone connected to her? But then, I guess Mog doesn't know about anything that's happening since they're not telling the council, so two jedi masters can just die and nobody knows anything about it.
@@TheNoonish Even if he doesn't know anything about why they were there, it's such a leap in logic to go "Ah, a respected jedi master just suddenly turned evil. Nobody else could have beaten jedi masters!".
"Who else could have done this?" I dunno, any other Jedi Master? He says it like Sol is the most powerful Jedi alive.
Mog is just there to look like a weak incompetent male so the green wahman can seem strong and intelligent by comparison. It's the only way feminists know how to write strong female characters. What if we just make the men look weak? Brilliant!
A Jedi who served for over sixteen years. Trained at least two Padawans (Osha and Jecka) and was so important and respected he was allowed to lead a contingent of Jedi to a planet. A lot of Jedi btw.
So not only did he absolutely dominate against multiple Jedi knights and against a Master, he did so BLIND!!!!!!!! WT-Absolute-F! Also what a nothing burger of an episode.
Also also, shouldn't Sol be freaking out wondering where Osha is? Like does he not care?
I pointed this out on TikTok and some idiot replied to say that I clearly hadn’t seen the episode because the mask is meant for sensory deprivation like the younglings’ helmets.
My immediate response was to ask why there would be eyeholes at all, since surely the pinpricks of light coming in would be more distracting than anything else.
So the helmet allows you to perceive things better through the Force...but also blocks the Force so your mind can't be read.
@@billjacobs521 That sounds stupid, so that's probably how it is.
He didn't care when Jecka and Yord died. He just let it happen. Why would he care about some person he's not seen in 16 years? Jecka cared more about her and they've known each other for less than a day. Dude didn't even care his former teammates from that Lesbian Witch convent mission were dying despite supposedly knowing them for years. Or when Joffrey's brother got tortured in front of him.
remember when fire in space was the biggest problem people had with this show? ahh simpler times.
No. I don't.
The biggest problem with the show, from the outset is the show itself. It should not exist, and yet it has the audacity to continue.
That was never anyone's biggest problem with the show. It was just the most meme-able problem.
"An Acolyte kills the dream". This is just 'let the past die, kill it if you have to' 2.0. It's ALL meta. It's ALL deliberate.
Everything about this show is allegorical and it’s so repulsively bad
It killed the dream of any Disney stockholders hoping for a return in their lifetime.
Referring to blaster bolts (or even worse, lightsabers) as 'lasers' in one's final product totally screams 'Star Wars fan'.
22:59 Mog, he's a mog, half man half dog. He's his own best friend.
In about 3 episodes we have gone from "I live for revenge" to "I'm done with this" to "I don't care what happens I just want to be with my sister" to "I actually do care and don't want to get arrested" to "I'll impersonate my sister to get revenge" to "Maybe I won't get revenge after all cause the Jedi looks sad" and mirroring that we have "The Jedi are good" to "The sith are kinda hot". What an absolute skidmark of a show. You can tell they cut and spliced a LOT of the script here because character motivation is flying wildly in all directions and people are teleporting to where they need to be.
Leslie Headland claims this was a passion project she greatly cared about, and she had over 3 years to work on it. There's not enough story here to fill 8 relatively short episodes. The entire purpose of this one is to tease things out so they could do the big reveal in the next episode. It's absolutely shocking.
You can make a show that has episodes where the characters aren't doing much, and it's still telling a story. Maybe they're simply doing basic maintenance on their equipment and that allows the audience to learn more about what a routine day is like for the character, and they can do things and express themselves in unique ways as they do things. It can be "filler," but if you've got characters, just spending time with the characters itself allows you to craft a story.
There are no characters here. Nobody has traits that define how they feel, nobody has a routine they engage in every day, nobody has a history that is expressed through their decisions and their actions. So we're just waiting for the episode to stop dicking around enough to tell us what the plot is, and this episode's plot is "Delay until the next episode which has a bit of plot." It's even worse than just random Mando sidequests, where he at least has to do or see something new (which is equally vapid and stupid, but at least there's a reason the story starts and ends). There is such a lack of interest in telling a story here.
From what I heard elsewhere, she re-wrote the last several episodes solely because of Smilo Ren's popularity with her crew when filming earlier episodes. So yeah, she spent years getting approval fro an IDEA she had but basically wrote it as she went along.
I hate and have always hated a light whip because it's purely an aggressive weapon. It's not made for defence, you can't block with it, you can only relentlessly attack. It's not precise, or elegant, it can't be a tool, or have any other utility besides attacking. It's barbaric and completely antithetical to everything a Jedi should stand for and represent.
If we're luck, that might be the point, and it's a reflection of Vernestra as a character.
Funny you should say that cause the character the creators stole the light whip thing from in the EU is a purely aggressive sith. Like they know literally nothing about storytelling beyond "ooh, it looks cool, I want it!"
@@mrmcawesome9746The EU version of the Lightwhip made more sense technologically as well. It had an actual physical cable covered in tiny filaments that ignited together when activated. Making it a floppy plasma noodle is fucking hilarious and stupid.
Smile-o Ren's counter arguments to Osha's accusations are pure narcissism; Yord arrested YOU, (never mind that he was following evidence and doing his job), and Jackie would never get together with YOU, (because her young life apparently worthless if she isnt with Osha).
no wonder it worked on her so well lol
“Jecki didn’t have THIS!” {helicopters his ‘lightsaber’}
Playing up to a woman's over-inflated sense of ego in order to seduce her? Jesus, it's more true to life than I first realized!
Ah, so terrible when the jailbait you're eye-fucking isn't on the table anymore. May as well turn evil. Is Osha a femcel?
@@scionofdorn9101Smilo Ren is a better company than a droid. And more flexible too!
The Thirst Awakens
OSHA'S mind this episode:
"The power of one egg, the power of two eggs needing to be inseminated, the power of mannnnyyyyy!"
The extent that time and distance means nothing in this show is impressive.
In the hour to hour and a half, that master Squid was in orbit after sending his message easage to the Jedi on Coruscant, the Jedi
1. Received the message and presumably unscrambled or somehow recovered it, then listened to it and realized the importance of the message.
2. Found Master Nepo and told her about the message. She seems pretty important and may have a good amount of things to do and may not be available or easy to find.
3. Master Nepo hears the message and makes a decision to send back up and to go herself to see what happened.
4. She then decides who is going with and contacts them to let them know they need to get ready to go as soon as possible. This is going to take time unless you've got a Jedi quick reaction team permanently on stand by. Given that in the grand scheme of things, there aren't that many Jedi, a quick reaction team is unlikely.
5. Master Nepo and the Jedi who are going to investigate the incident need to travel to wherever the Jedi keep their space ships, prepare one for take off. Submit a flight plan to whoever runs the airspace over Coruscant and get that plan approved. The Jedi ship then needs to clear the planet and probably wait to use a specific hyperspace lane because given the amount of space traffic on Coruscant, you probably can't just jump in and out of near Coruscant space with out the danger of running into an incoming or out going ship.
6. FINALLY, they need to actually travel from Coruscant to the planet in the Outer Rim. There's a reason it's called the Outer Rim, by the way. It's really, really, really far from the core planatary systems at whose core is Coruscant. It should take a decent amount of time to travel there! Traveling by hyperdrive, no matter how fast it is, still takes TIME! It's not teleportation.
So the fact that Master Nepo and her team of Jedi can do all that in the hour to hour and a half Master Squid Game was in orbit is utterly ridiculous. This show can't even get the most simple things correct.
The answer is simple: They all have class 0.0 hyperdrives ...
@lordmontymord8701 Lol, how could I have forgotten about those? They must have run out of them in the next hundred years cause they never seem to use them again.
@@beowulfsrevenge4369 Until they are miraculously rediscovered for the sequel trilogy given the way they are bouncing around all over in Rise of Skywalker within a very short time frame (seriously doesn't Palpatine say he will attack within a day or so?).
Don't forget that Mae and Sol are on their ship at the end of the episode, taking off, while Smilo Ren finds Osha. So let's examine what Smilo Ren did.
1) Scooped Osha up and carried her, unconscious, all the way back to HIS ship, also through the jungle.
2) Piloted his ship to a different planet.
3) Landed his ship on a different planet.
4) Carried Osha inside and gave her some kind of treatment for her injury.
5) Had enough time for the tide to apparently come in.
6) Wandered off.
In the meantime, Sol and Mae have reached orbit after taking off.
This show has no interest in internal continuity.
The fact that Disney keeps the Clone Wars 3D series as canon despite multiple times the long times between warps were mentioned (some took days to get to places closer to Coruscant than Kelnakas world) is so fucking funny. They just love to ruin their own shows.
For anyone who's seen "A New Hope," if Mae could easily rest Osha's droid to its orginal factory settings, then why did Uncle Owen (100 years later, mind you) needed Luke to take R2-D2 to Anchorhead to have his memory erased? Couldn't he have just hit the reset button?
Leslye Headland: "Consistency, what's that?"
It also makes the whole "are droids sentient beings?" question all the more disturbing. Plus, they _just_ did a whole stupid episode about droids being people on The Mandalorian.
My issue is how easy it would be. She pressed and holds like 2 buttons, that's how you take a screenshot on most phones. You know how many accidental screen shots I take? Imagine accidently resetting your primary device to factory settings every couple days.
@@mattparsons2045 Yeah, it's ridiculous. It also takes away some of the uniqueness of the droids, imo. It seemed like some of the droids were very special in their designs that someone would have to take them to specific facilities to have them re-programmed. Acolyte makes them no more special than an I-phone in your pocket.
@@tyrannozilla the only thing that is give them is that this seems halfway between a droid and a mutlitool. It's the age old question of why would you give a toaster feelings
@@mattparsons2045 The toast would always be burnt if that were to happen.
Cheers for Fringy and Das in the Longman Inc. Editing Dungeons!
You boys are quick.
Qimir’s true betrayal was when Kilnaka stole his stew recipe and passed it off as his own. I mean, that would turn me
A jedi grass stew can't be prepared with a wok.
@@Jasper_SilvaIt can, but it needs to be a Phrik Wok, not a Kortosis one. It just doesn't cook well with that one.
Sole slapped the table in this episode! Where’s the wacha bring me meme with that?
1:50 Y'alls predictive abilities are waning. Obviously, the communications console won't be able to tell which way is up without a command ship nearby, and therefore the signals won't go towards the intended recipients.
😂well played.
Ryan is the best thing about EFAP in a looooong time.
Ummmm...
@@parsa1372 yes
@@parsa1372well the answer certainly ain’t Star Wars Theory.
@@nhagan001 oh believe me i agree with THAT!! :)
Agree I actually want only Ryan and the others are annoying
My favourite part was when Ultron showed up and said
"I wanna be a real Acolyte."
15/10 episode.
When he said "It's Tronin' time", and Tronned all over the place, I wept.
It was a scene of all time.
2 episodes left and we still don’t know what the jedi did wrong. This deserves to be rated lower than the holiday special
Next episode will be the big reveal where Sol and Mae tell each other what they already know happened, so the audience can be clued in finally.
19:16 He just said "Attack me with all your strength" to her in Beaverese...
"They have no principals or convictions" - It is as they say "a character is only as smart as the writer". A writer with no morals, principals or convictions is going to have a rough time writing a charcter who has them.
remember The Holiday Special? Wookies are known for their excellent cooking.
*Stir whip, stir whip, whip whip stir!*
Jedi Master with the power of the Force, which can detect unique life signatures and read minds
Versus
One Sniffy boi
Sol's powers are so inconsistent that at this point I'm not sure what he's actually capable of.
This is written as a soap opera. As the Unknown World Turns. Days of Our Jedi Lives. All My Padawans. Guiding Force.
This legitimately is a soap opera. Somehow being sold as the next evolution of Star Wars.
This episode would have been greatly improved if Osha said "Tell that to Yord's snapped neck." If only
What a bizarre, excruciatingly painful to watch episode of television this was.
sooo he asks her if it 'feels good?' when she's holding on to his two handed lightsabre... and 'instructs' her how to hold it better for a 'quicker block' and she doesn't turn it on... what you doing disney i mean really
It's a bit bigger and thicker than she's used to, it seems.
@@TheNoonish never mind the quality feel the width
"No, Osha, you are just mashing it. It doesn't feel good that way."
@@Phoenix0F8 "shake it like a shake weight not a polaroid picture"
He was trying to get her to touch her elbows to her belly button
I can just see them having smilo be plagues’ master, or worse, he names himself plagues and retcon everything, including him being a muun
These god awful Disney shows are designed to be watched once and never again. There's no longevity, after you learn what the "great mysteries" are there's no point in repeated viewing. Honestly the only way I'm able to follow the acolyte is by watching you all shit on it. Keep up the good work. 👍
Confusion is their replacement for a mystery. But it isn't.
Osha and Mae have no conviction.They keep switching motivations so easily
It doesn't help that the actress fucking sucks.
This is perfect, just perfect. People are telling me that this is actually good. I say Osha is an 11 out of 10 on the Padme-murderboner-skale. If it really takes not more than this to convince her AND she falls for Smilo because hot, then i think there will be a switch in the end: She's the evil twin and Mae, who actually has a reason to hate the Jedi (because it's 100 % clear they are responsible for the death of her mothers), will see that things are not that easy and repent.
And Sol is just an idiot.
Nobody can convince me that this pointless episode wasn't made in strong part for Headland's wife to get a sort of girl boss moment with her whip and a chance to embarrass/emasculate a scrawny white male character. Since, despite how bad at writing they all seem to be, they couldn't find a way to shoe-horn her into the finale that didn't cut time for the Osha/Mae OC fanfic. That, and to force Green Bean's character into the script to have her on set needlessly again so she gets paid more for her time. This Green Bean character has never served any purpose to the plot, most could have been cut, and what remained could have been done through a hologram conversation, filmed in a near empty set against a green screen delivering basic orders to Sol and co.
The other reason this episode exists is make Osha and Mae's incomprehensible characters suddenly change motivations for the 100th time to set up the last two episode set pieces and story beats that Headland wants to ram into this show (like some awful shipping with the bad boy trope) and IP, regardless of making a lick of sense with anything else she's Frankenstein'd into this corpse.
The twins are going to flip and Smilo is just a Sith apprentice looking to have his own so he can take HIS master who is actually the REAL BBEG ...which will be Saber whip lady or one of the twins mothers.
Just what i sense is going on because this is textbook Filoni writing 101. He's done this multiple times throughout Clone Wars and Rebels and i see no reason for them to change formula now.
20:08 “These paper clips are absolutely perfect for tinkering with any machine I’ve come across.”
Coruscant to Outer Rim?...eh, we'll be there in seconds.
Violations of time and space alone is enough to warrant this series as non-canon by default.
Still waiting for Mauler's KotOR streams. Would love to hear his opinion on what most consider one of the best EU stories. Can't believe he hasn't played them.
The most interesting thing they've probably done with Smilo Ren is briefly address the idea that the Jedi are "less than human" because of their practice of shunning (it's supposed to be controlling but seldom comes across as such) their emotions and attachments. Of course, this has been much more thoroughly explored in EU material, such as KotOR 2.
People say Anakins turn was quick af
Took Palpatine years of eroding Anakin's faith in the Jedi and give in to the dark
Osha sees Qimir's 'lightsaber', feels it throbbing in her hand.
We dont know exactly how long she was there but its filmed like she turned in less than a day
Also note, a powerful man takes the sister of woman he's "raised" since she was orphaned, now doing the same to her sister after kidnapping her.
Is this empowerment?
Apparently it's empowering if it's done by a man they're sexually attracted to.
Plus Anakin had his own problems, a large ego and a lack of self-control.
His "strength is powerful?" That's not words. You can't grammar that way.
8 Jedi were killed on Kofar, so we should take 4...Vernestra logic...
Jedi aren't very bright most of the time, so i can see her being to dumb to count. Probably skipped Jedi-math just to built her cool whip.
wahmen math moment
Well, she obviously counts as like 10 Sols. She can probably beat Yoda in Lesley's mind.
Dooku: Twice the pride, double the fall!
Green lady: Half the team, die twice as fast.
This is probably the first time ever for me, where a show could have done better without the main plot. That being the twins plot.
Take out the Twins, the lesbian witches, and make Smilo the main bad guy, keep the mystery who done it through the entire season, and you have yourself a significantly better story by default.
On an unknown planet
The Island of Mêlée
The Secret of Floompy Island
"Hi! My name is OSHA Threepwood, and I want to be a jedi!"
The Acol-izers.
🎶Bazil the Kungfu Beaver🎶
Maybe the writer thinks sensory-deprivation means it blocks mind-control. It's obviously not SD, it has eye-holes and ear-holes.
The grinning teeth make it look like a Hallowe'en mask.
Imagine if the second Jedi ship had arrived just two seconds earlier and they'd both become space dust when the first crashed into it entering hyperspace?
Funny how -Venestra- Handsome Squidward didn't need a guide.
And just for a little extra soul crushing, based on some estimates I've seen online an episode of DS9 was about 2 million. That would make it roughly 4 million adjusted for inflation today. That napkin math would make these 8 episodes the equivalent investment to *45* DS9 episodes. Meditate on that.
This has the same budget per episode as House of the Dragon and Andor - i think that's even more depressing. Going for Nu Trek: SNW costs only 7 mio. per episode ...
Btw.: Wasn't the idea behind the Volume to save money?
I wish they did crash into another, it would have actually been an interesting and surprising plot twist.
Queue the 🌽 Hub music.
Lesbian Headlamp took "being seduced by the dark side" the absolute wrong way.
Gurl was reset to factory settings
I've always felt people are missing a free opportunity to refer to her as "Lesbian Headcanon."
That's the only way she knows how, and boy does she know it well.
I think Disney Star Wars is channelling serious 'I can fix him' vibes here.