Joining and Leaving the Moonies / Unification Church - Cult Expert Dr. Steven Hassan | Ep. 1743
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- Please join us today as Dr. Steven Hassan tells us the story of how he was recruited into a cult (The "Moonies"), and how he became one of the world's experts in cults.
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Chapters
00:00:00 Introduction to Steve's work
00:09:00 Steven’s Jewish upbringing
00:27:00 Education emphasis, Liberation from Pharaoh
00:33:00 What made Steve vulnerable or interested in the Moonies?
00:40:00 Three women at college cafeteria flirt with him
00:48:00 Being taken to a retreat without consent
00:51:30 Introduction to Moonie theology
01:00:00 First spiritual experience
01:07:00 “You’re special”
01:11:00 Samantha’s reactions re: her conversion to Mormonism
01:14:30 Moonie theology & brief history
01:29:00 Cult “copy-cat-ism” of Mormon politicians
01:34:45 Converting to Moonies and dropping out of college
01:39:30 Destruction of identity, & other cult tactics
01:41:00 “Child of God”, Leader worship, negative thoughts are Satanic
01:43:00 Fear, turning off doubts, Parallels w/ Mormonism and Moonies
01:45:30 Music as emotional manipulation, Pledges
01:51:00 BITE model, Behavioral manipulation in Moonies
01:53:00 “Cain/Abel relationships”, obedience mindset
01:57:00 Sexual controls, Homophobia
02:00:10 Gender and racial divides, rebranding
02:07:00 Parallels w/Mormonism
02:17:00 Is it scary to criticize the Moonies?
02:19:00 Hassan's political involvement & recruiting
02:24:30 Hassan has a near-fatal crash
02:26:00 Throat slitting and Moonies, Information and Thought control (I & T of BITE)
02:28:00 Always “upping’ the goals, Lying, thought-stopping
02:33:00 Information about leader withheld & hidden from members
02:35:00 Being willing to die or kill for Mr. Moon
02:40:00 How he got out of the Moonies - family connections
02:44:00 Superiority and isolation
02:47:00 Being moved by the love of his father
02:54:00 Learning about “Brainwashing” and Chinese Thought Control
02:57:00 Dominoes of belief fall. Cried for 3 hours. Shame & other feelings
03:01:45 “Anti-Moonies”
03:04:30 Reality testing to see if you’re in a cult or unhealthy organization
03:08:00 Buddhist story of town well being poisoned…would you drink it to fit in?
03:13:00 Feeling terrified to leave, making movies, aligning self with high-profile people
03:17:00 Deprogramming self, Talking to Dr. Lifton, Deciding to become an activist
03:21:00 Meeting Lifton, dedicating his life to this cause
03:25:45 Love is stronger than mind control
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Talking about his sister Thea made me tear up. To be "safe" for someone is such a beautiful thing.
It’s not an easy position to take, but he made me realise in an instant just how vital that role is.
Incredible interview. I exited an abusive marriage and so much of what he said reminded me of being trapped in that abusive situation. The mind control is soul destroying. It is so difficult to get away from.
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So true- my own sister & her ex husband were part of a quasi cult led by the typical dictatorial, arrogant, hypocritical and womanizing narcissistic founder & leader - Big shocker🙄, turns out they embezzled $1mil+ from their gullible, earnest followers *_HOWEVER_* the absolute worst part was the terrible & long term impact that twisted man & his apostate mindset & teachings wrought upon his group’s members…no drama, just facts: to this day, the fallout includes sister’a family splintered and broken…a book could be written😔💔
God loathes such egomaniacal cult leaders & the devastation heaped upon searching, vulnerable individuals.
I'm an ex member of WMSCOG which Dr Steve has extensively investigated and spoken out against. In the church they make videos about how bad he is :'D Thanks for your work Steve!!
Those kind of call outs almost ALWAYS cause members to seek it out if they've never heard of it. Lmao I had never heard of John Dehlin, or exmormons anywhere but reddit. Thankfully I learned how to google.
Amazing man !
My life has been almost stripped away by another religious cult at my mother’s hand - your story resonates with me, and I understand the tears. I am there as well.
“Love is stronger than mind control” Thank you, Steven
Steven Hassan is an absolute legend! Thank you so much, Steve, for everything you do and for sharing your story. Sam was absolutely the best cohost for this episode! Excellent choice, John! I've read all of Steven's books, but I feel like I learned so much from this episode. I think this just became my favorite episode of Mormon Stories. Please make sure this video is never lost to time or space, because it is going to make a difference to lives for decades to come.
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I agree! I'm a huge M.S. student & listener! I often take notes with books recommended and or make copies of clips, to keep track of information for my own research! Steve is a cult favorite now! Pun intended! LOL! Thank- You, O.S.F., and Sam! 🎻♥️😎
One thing I always thought, back when I was a true believer in the church, was “there are so many people more intelligent and educated than me that believe this so it must be true”. I now realize there are intelligent people who believe all kinds of things and just because a bunch of “smart” people believe a religious or political doctrine doesn’t make it true. I am amazed at the things otherwise intelligent people can believe in. It helps me forgive myself for the things I used to believe in that are pretty silly looking at it from the outside.
It’s also very easy to view your own beliefs as logical and see other people’s beliefs as ridiculous.
I thought the same thing!
This is a good point about being smart and yet being fooled . Jesus says, be careful, even the elect can be deceived! I always think that Satan is smarter than most people's faith. He is the deceiver!
Just because you're smart doesn't mean you are intelligent. I was in the Pentecostal religion out for 30 years however, I'm still affected by what I was taught! It goes back to the brimstone and fire!
@ Marlene What does “true believer in the church” mean? Yeshua never called us to believe in church. Seems you were preoccupied with the happenings of people, rather than ever encountering Yeshua who calls us to Himself.
@@christoffesedao3579 I love Jesus with all My heart, I am wary of churches though. People can be so full on.
Another incredible guest and interview. I am Ojibwe/Blackfeet/European and my husband is Jewish (both Ashkenazi and Sephardic) so this resonated with me, personally, more than other podcasts. When Dr. Hassan spoke about the Holocaust making him feel more in touch with his Jewishness, that really cannot be overstated. It is highlighted in the famous quote of Golda Meir told to a new young U.S. Senator, Joe Biden, who was in Israel during the Yom Kippur War of 1973. She said, "We don’t worry, senator. We Israelis have a secret weapon. We have nowhere else to go.” That feeling really is a weapon and a strength for a people who have been outcasts for, as you said it, Dr. Dehlin, "millenium". I see now in my husband, and in other American Jews, the return of that absolute assuredness that there is nowhere else to go, especially with the rise in antisemitism and what appears to be an extreme left-leaning support of Palestine in popular media. Which isn't to say that I don't understand that leaning. Of course, I do. Three generations of homelessness and refugee status, in not just Israel but also in Jordan, Egypt, and Lebanon, creates great despair, hopelessness, and helplessness. As a Native American, I understand those feelings and where that history can take you. BUT, I know you prefer not to discuss politics (what can I say, I'm a political scientist), and really this comment was just another thank you for an excellent broadcast. I wasn't familiar with Dr. Hassan until now.
It would be so powerful for Hassan to dive into the programming of the former president's followers. We've watched a huge cult forming before our eyes that is poised to take over our government and destroy the constitution. Knowledge like Hassan's could make a difference if it were widespread.
It would be interesting to hear what he thinks about Israel now after the October 7 massacre.
In the early 90s, I went on a trip to Korea paid for by the Moonies. They were doing a PR campaign, to show the world how normal they were, and anyone who had a leadership position in their own church, could go on the Moonies dime. It was mostly pastors from Christian churches, but as a Mormon and youth leader, I was excepted to go on scholarship. They took us by bus to their version of the sacred grove, and it was déjà vu learning about Reverend Moon’s experience there as I had heard it so many times about Joseph Smith. Nearly identical.
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@@notnow7973 What does that supposed to mean?? Are you in denial?
*accepted not excepted
@@philmabarak5421 The sentence"What does that supposed to mean?" is incorrect because "supposed" is not the base form of the verb that follows "does".
Instead, "is supposed to" is a set phrase where "is" acts as the auxiliary verb.❤
I find it hard to accept that adults get caught up in nonsense like Mormonism and the moonies. . What a waste of time. Even if you meet someone you like, they are caught up in nonsense too!!!! It’s ridiculous and absurd. But millions of people are deluded. So dumb.
It was so refreshing too hear how positive it was to grow up Jewish. Too have had the freedom to explore life and how you felt about it without external pressure to confirm, must have been a true gift.
I especially appreciated his point that anyone can be manipulated into a cult in the right circumstance.
I usually stay away from cults. But I like that a mormon told me that the holy bible was written by sinners. That gave me thought that a lot of people are ruled by the flesh and it God.
They called the flesh for Bible God, I meant.
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I’ve been watching Dr. Hassan for years (he helped me see how much thought control there is in fundamentalist evangelicalism) and it was wonderful to hear a deep dive into his own story 💛 What a powerful legacy he has created
Are you kidding? The Mormons aren't evangelists. They are a cult - no religion. Here in Europe they don't even have legally the status of a religion. And they have nothing to do with the Evangelium. Stop spreading false information.
I’m not new to Steven’s story, nor yours John, but I have learned new lessons today. Thank you all, Samantha included, for the vulnerability and guidance.
I could listen to dr Hassan all day.
I love how Steven's emotional reactions to certain moments of time illuminate what's really important in life and what has the deepest and truest power: instances of connection, love, valuing another, and the like. These are what can dislodge rigid belief systems.
"Cults are BAD........ unless u join OUR cult"
@@josephinetracy1485 What are you talking about? Nothing in what I said has anything to do with some other cult.
@@Cat_Woods We need to stay away from cults.... such as the Moonies, Jehovah's Witnesses, the Mormons, etc.
This did not disappoint. I am very thankful Steve was able to come out and spend his time to share his story with us. What a valuable way to spend his time here.
This man is incredible to listen to.
What an amazing interview. So VERY powerful. As a former JW with all my family still in, this is so moving hearing how he decided to do his true life’s work ❤
I was JW 🙃
Coincidentally, JW’s came to my house today . I live in Connecticut and we have JW visits often. I wasn’t here but my husband spoke to them for quite some time. It was extremely hot- 98 degrees and very humid. My husband said they were the nicest, most respectful people he’s met in awhile and he understood how we can be influenced by them. WOW! ! We humans… what a bunch
@@MKConnecticut by far and away most of them are genuinely sincere and good hearted people, thank your husband for being kind to them. Many people slam doors on them and I personally as a child had a gun pointed at me more than once while “in the ministry”. Arguing and mistreatment only add to the already indoctrinated persecution complex. Kindness and sincere questions are how to get through to JWs. Thank you for sharing!
I am a witness. We would never use moonie methods to force or trick people. We study what the bible says. Then people use their free will, become a witness or not.
Love Steve and his story! He's transformed his life, and now is attempting to assist all who has been through this experience! Talk about "paying it forward!" A fantastic individual, and inspiring! Also, just a another revealing aspect of this incredible podcast, notice here is John and Steve, both have their image mirroring each other! There's a brilliance within these two! Of assisting people with their lives, teaching unconditional Love! This will have a ripple effect to perhaps thousands of people! Best, interview yet! ♥️🎻😎
Steven, thank you for being your authentic self in this interview.
Wow! Steve had me tearing up too.
What a wonderful man, bringing such a powerful message.
That bit about, "you lived it". Being able to find value in even the worst of circumstances is something I live by. Using the lessons on One's own experiences to help others. Sharing empathy. Not telling people what to do but rather helping them to find their own answers. To me, one of the most fulfilling things we can do.
Thank you Steve, for using your life experience to help so many others.
"Cults are BAD........ unless u join OUR cult"
SO many people deconstructing have your questions about Judaism ... I appreciate you asking!!! I really loved that
I can't help but cry with Steven. The Mormon cult has taken so much from me and I just feel so much empathy for this man!
This was an all timer, thank you John for bringing Steven on the show and thank you Steven for sharing your story!
"Cults are BAD........ unless u join OUR cult"
I’m really excited about listening to these interviews! I’ve been a huge fan of Stephen Hassan for several year. I am an ex- Scientologist, and have found his books and talks eye-opening and educational. Plus, he’s an absolutely delightful human being 😎 I have a Mormon sister, and am also a fan and supporter of yours, Dr. Dehlin! It’s going to be such a treat to listen to this! If either of you makes it out to Northern California, I would love to take you out for a meal. ❤
Having read Combating Cult Mind Control, I was excited to find that Dr Hassan would be appearing on Mormon Stories. Great interview!
My grandfather was in a cult called Direct Credit Society during and just after the Great Depression. The head guy was Alfred E Lawson who also named part of it Lawsonomy. Member families had many rules to live by including vegetarian foods, and sending your children who lived in cities to live with members who were farmers to learn how to grow their own foods, being loyal to your spouse. When you Dad went to their " university" he saw Lawson eating steak, and a member revealed her teenage daughter was having Lawson's baby although he had a wife.
thank you for this info I am going to dig into it soon. The vegetarian part, not so culty, sending your children off totally culty. Teenage daughter issue, religion in general. The name of the cult is what has me interested
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All the way from Gaborone, Botswana, Africa..I’m grateful for this interview..an eye opener , recovering from leaving Mormonism ,will definitely get the books🙏Thank you ❤️
Thank you for sharing your story Steve! It was shocking at times to hear the parallels. Looking forward to listening to the next one!
I didn't want this conversation to end.
Enjoying Dr. Hassan's life story and delivery of same.
I always have these impressions that Joseph Smith and Rev. Moon are privately laugh at how they've got their followers manipulated.
And L. Ron Hubbard.
Mormon Stories continues to outdo itself! ✅💯🙌🏻
I am SO STOKED about this episode!!! I’m a HUGE fan of Dr. Hassan and his work, and I’m a fan of MSP. So excited for this! 💜💜💜
I can’t turn this interview off! This is AMAZING. Thank you
So glad!
.amazing .. on the Wake up... everyone is in a love bomb life. Yes, the fact is life is about love, and God is love and the true love bomber. and as a Jew taught to accept rejecting Yeshua/Jesus to keep being love bombed by others who reject Him. In Judaism, it was defined in the Messiah, who as Isaiah 52 verse 13 through the 53rd chapter explains that He would be rejected and lay down His life for our sins and offer to make intercession for us. Now He is my forgiver and best friend. When others tell us to reject that they are asking us to take their love instead of His. Mormonism, Modern Judaism, and whatever belief aside from salvation by grace=His amazing grace is a form of love bombing. Even seeking money, fame, self, or a girl friend or wife and leaving God in second place means you intend to worship a mate.
Fascinating discussion. I'm so inspired to follow in Steve's footsteps after suffering immeasurable personal loss as a result of being indoctrinated by the Jehovah Witness cult. I too dropped out of university but now desire a psychology degree to ultimately be able to help people be equipped with strong mental health to empower them to exit and heal from cults. Thank you MPS, the insight shared here by Steve relating his experiences are truly precious.❤ and much respect to you all.
I think that would be an awesome way to take your pain and contribute to your and others healing. I hope you have been able to take some steps in that direction.
Good luck to you in your future endeavors.
I'm so glad this episode was playing when I woke up this morning. Wow Steve, You got Me at the end, I'm crying like a baby. Love is it, it's everything.
Beautifully powerful interview. Thank you for your work Dr Hassan, MS Team and Samantha.
A few months ago I discovered this podcast and I was so sure that I would not ever subscribe bc it's so long and my time is precious. But here I am, already subscribed bc of a previous podcast, and I am glued to this one. I am 65 years old so I have heard a lot about the Moonies in my youth, but never ever as much as this. As an educator, I am even more convinced now that young ppl should learn more about various "religions", cults, and strange love-bombing groups and simply read more. Or more now, simply listen to informative podcasts. This guy is absolutely fascinating. I never had a clue about such tactics, rules, and regulations of this group. I got into researching more about cults bc I was absolutely convinced that I, an intelligent person, could never be drawn into a cult. But apparently, even the most intelligent of us beings can and will continue to be led down rabbit holes. Interesting. Keep them coming Mormon Stories Podcast. You have an avid listener all the way in the islands of The Bahamas!
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Thank you, thank you. Looking on my experience with JW’s and major depression after being disfellowshipped. 30 years later, still struggle. I relate to the mind control and the need to understand how that happened. Appreciate your education and life focus which helps me trust what you say.
Can't believe how lucky I was today, I went to purchase Steven's book on Audible and I had credit. Guess what I'll be listening to for the next 13 hours! With a few breaks of course 😁
"Cults are BAD........ unless u join OUR cult"
This was helpful, interesting and powerful. Thank you so much for coming on this podcast. I'm not particularly educated on this area and it's been a pleasure.
Glad it was helpful!
I have found maintaining my conscience, always asking questions, always considering new information and applying critical thinking are the most effective methods to defend against "cult like, controlling behaviors".
Fyi I had ( past tense, no contact) a Narcissistic "mother" and alcoholic father. I was the scapegoat because of what I saw AND SAID. By four I realized "the idiots were running the asylum".
At 19 my mother "disowned me, because I borrowed a dress, from my divorced father's girlfriend.
I had a fantastic therapist in my twenties, who after extensive work encouraged me to invite my mother to therapy. When she refused the therapist called her and said "IF you refuse to come in and work on this relationship, it then becomes my job, to teach her to live without you".
Months later, when I was ready I sent a letter saying:
"You win.
You get your way for the rest of our lives.
You're no longer my mother.
I'm no longer you're daughter.
BEST decision of my life!
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So very sorry. Families are very strange places. Really. Nearly every family is kind of crazy.
What an awesome interview. Just recently found your channel and this interview was just great. Thank you all for the work you are doing.
Wow! This interview was incredible! Steven's story, all the interesting beliefs of the Mooneys, Samantha's commentary and John leading the interview. It was all wonderful! It's incredible as a former Mormon to see all of this cult information revealed on Mormon Stories. It helps me feel like we can learn a wiser way of living. ❤️❤️❤️
Brilliant podcast! Dr.Hassan’s experience and teaching of the BITE model is priceless. He has helped more people than he may ever know. Sincere gratitude to all @Mormon Stories for their time and talents. 🙏
"Cults are BAD........ unless u join OUR cult"
So moving thank you x
I was part of a cult in AA in where I had to be happy joyous and free all the time and was shamed if I wasn’t!
20 years later I’m allowing ALL my emotions and learning to be kinder to myself ❤
The word cult is grossly overused and most, like you, don’t know what constitutes a cult…
What a great guest! The BITE model is valuable.
One of the most amazing interviews I have ever watched - and I have watched a lot of them... Steven Hassan is so perfectly well spoken and the interviewer did a terrific job just letting Dr. Hassan speak. So impressed!
Wow, I grew up in Flushing at the same time as Steve--same age!--but I never heard of him before, even though I am fascinated by cults, which is why I follow your podcast. We lived just blocks from Queens College. (Another famous alum of the same year is Jerry Seinfeld!)
We lost people in our family to the Sri Chinmoy cult, also based on Queens. When I was in college the Moonies were on a big push on campuses in the U.S. Another member of our high school class joined the Moonies. Another joined the Sri Chinmoy cult. We all went to Jamaica High School. Did Steven go there? It was right in the neighborhood he described.
My cousin finally left the Sri Chinmoy cult in her 40s. Her mother never left. My family is nonpracticing Jewish, as were all the people above.
EDITED TO ADD: Steve must have gone to Jamaica High School. We were Citywide Champs!!
Steven is incredibly kind and brilliant, love him!
"Cults are BAD........ unless u join OUR cult"
Appreciation+ for you Dr. Steven Hassan your strength, bravery and love for others you are such a wonderful inspiration to me and I am sure for so many others. At this moment you are my favorite man on the planet. Thank You for sharing your experience and your dedication for others fulfillment and finding the truth.
Love you Steven Hassan!
I was married to a pathological narcissist for 2 years. So many similarities. I was brainwashed, controlled, lost my identity. Last January, I snapped, realized it was all a lie. After a difficult time of recovery, I'm finally starting to feel healthy.
Same here. Being with a pathological narcissist is the exact same as being in a cult. It was the worst thing I have ever been through, resulting in a nervous breakdown. Best thing that ever happened to me. It have me armor I will use for the rest of my life. I now completely understand how this happens to absolutely anyone.
My husband also has a personality that I have diagnosed him with. This personality developed over time. I got out 2 yrs ago. I got SSDI. Before the disability came I remember my husband saying what he would do with that money. I'm so glad I'm out of the marriage. I live now in a manageable 1 bedroom apartment. I was in the marriage for 30 yrs. I have 3 adult children.
This was an amazing episode! I admire Steve so much and what a powerful story. “Love is more powerful than mind control ❤🤯I was familiar with the story, but this episode really brought things home for me. Thank you John and the Mormon stories team for all you do!
Steve, we grew up in Queens and went to college at the same time. I remember the Moonies at college, trying to recruit, moving around in small groups and trying to engage us. They seemed kinda suspect to us ( like what were they about any way?) A few kids here and there did get pulled in and we really didn’t understand what happened with them. We didn’t understand cults at all but it unsettled us.
I remember the Moonies recruiting in NYC back in the 70's. They were on every block with a blackboard and chalk.
Very strange indeed.
My husband told a story about a cult in California. He was on leave and cute girls invited him and his buddy to dinner and meeting people. He went of course and the same thing progressed. He felt uncomfortable and closed in. He told the girls that he and his friend belonged to Uncle Sam so they better let them go. They did.
I think it is fascinating how it is possible to extricate oneself from mind control like this.
I did successfully apply this methodology without knowing what I was doing at all and prior to ever being introduced to Steven Hassan.
I think that it is important to share this information to help as many people as possible.
An amazing man with an amazing story, who is so generous sharing to help others. Humbling.
What a deeply enlightening conversation! Thank you to all for taking the time to make and share these stories.
It is so impressive how honest he is about his past life. Not many people would be so blunt and honest about their past errors. All the more impressive that he dedicated his life's work to fighting against these horrible organizations.
I agree. He gives strength to others to share their stories even though it could be embarrassing. ❤
This is brilliant! What a great approach John!
Thank you, again.
Watching from Alaska.
Hassan is a treasure.
What a brave soul this man is. Not all heroes wear capes. Steven's BITE model is amazing.
Excellent interview! Thank you Dr Hassan.
Listening to Steve describe his experiences, as a fellow Jew on Yom Kippur, has added a new level of this to me - as atonement/reflection are at the forefront.
Thank you for all you do, John (and crew)!
Samantha is a legend. Thank you for bringing your/her insights to this discussion.
Thank you. Excellent interview. My family history includes many from the Amish community. I didn't grow up in this but my heart goes out to those entrapped by conformities etc. Yes love overcomes mind control.
The story about Steven thinking about killing his own father is OMG!!!!! And then his father started to cry 😭 and wanted to know Steven's feelings.
Powerful, so necessary we are in a mass psychosis as a Nation as Humanity, lifting one another up is so essential to our survival. Thank you so much. Love never fails.
Mass psychosis. Perfect description of what the world is like.
It is a linguistically accepted fact that Mary was a “maiden” and “virgin” was a mistranslation in the English version that was added fairly late
Steven, we’re so grateful for your experience and the time you devote to helping others ❤️
3:24 - I cried! 😢 Thanks for sharing this story. So powerful! ❤
You are so welcome!
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INCREDIBLE!!!! Going to watch the next part now!
Thank you for your video! I have a truly wonderful friend who had pancreatic cancer. She now is free of cancer thanks to God. She’s been now getting into those crystals, tarot reading, everything you mentioned 😢 I’ve tried telling her that’s not of God but she doesn’t listen.
I ask people on your platform to please pray for my dear friend Velma in Texas. Thank you once again and may our Lord Jesus Christ continue to bless you and give you the peace you’ve been searching for all this time young lady (I say young lady because I’m 60yrs old lol). God bless.
Wow. My neighbors say, they're mormon. But they're somewhat fitting your description. But one is an alcoholic and claimed, he used to be catholic. He handed me a sheet of paper when verbally saying, it'll change my life forever. It said what my mom used to tell me which was idol hands were evil.
Thank you so much for this interview! Very interesting and educational! Greetings from me in Norway 🇧🇻
Hope you been feeling’ better Dr Hassan. Thank you for being a trooper! Respect!
I loved steve on the show, "Cults and Extreme Beliefs," he is amazing.
Second listen. Well worth a 3rd. Hoping you have him on the show often!
Via the mysteries of the CZcams algorithm (I fell asleep listening to a Warhammer novel) this interview was playing when I woke up this morning, and after a couple of minutes of groggily listening to it I put it back to the beginning and listened to it all. I'm interested, because I was young when I started "studying" (being indoctrinated) into the Jehovah's Witnesses. I never got baptised, but I was fully involved. They, like other groups, look for a person's Achilles heel, or both heels, and use it to draw you in. My own? My intelligence and my mental health issues. They will use those "heels" of yours both positively and negatively. Concerning intelligence they would appeal to your vanity, "Oh you're so clever, we need people like you", and they use your curiosity. Then later if you are expressing doubts they will belittle you with "I don't understand! You're so intelligent, so how can you not see this is true?" Decades later I'm contented to be an agnostic, but my experiences in that group will always stay with me. These groups all use the same techniques to control their members, even though they profess different things.
I’m listening to this after the ruby frank, Jody hildebrand, conviction. Now just starting into the chad Daybell trial. Such a great lesson here.
This is worth every minute!!!!
Oh the voice example sounds like the speakers at conference. Getting members into a hypnotic state!
This is amazing! Invaluable information from wonderful people
Liking and commenting for the algo! Will loop back and watch this when I have time for a full sit through!
This was Amazing to watch and learn 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼thank you 😘🇬🇧great trio 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽xxxxx
❤❤❤ This was so good! Thank you!
Glad you liked it!!
Just learned of Dr. Steven Hassan, so am viewing as many CZcams videos as possible! Thank you!
Thank you so much for sharing your story, Dr. Hassan! Your work has helped me so much in my deconversion of the Mormon church and in seeing the red flags with some people I have dealt with. Again, thank you.
What a wonderful interview.
What a raw and touching testimony ❤
What an amazing story. Thank you so much for sharing this with everyone.
Another aspect of singing is it creates that feeling of togetherness and belonging. Learning and performing tonal vibrations along with the message of the lyrics.
You have a way of getting more out of people that you interview. I know that being long form is one reason, but the questions you ask are excellent.
Very powerful story! Steve, thank you for reminding us how important it is to keep loving our family members who have been pulled into cults and for not blaming them for being pulled in.
Best show y’all’ve ever had!
Wow! 🤯
This was so good.
I think the temple segregates men and women on different sides because of the way the brain is made. Right hemisphere is feminine and left is masculine. So much of the temple allegory is relatable and translatable to the brain.
Thanks for a wonderful video. Great interview hugs and kisses from grandma Sandy and Debbie.
In my opinion, if someone joins the Mormon church after taking the missionary lessons, they join without informed consent. Nothing is taught in the missionary lessons about all the weird doctrines of the church. Those would raise big red flags for a thinking person.
I soooo agree. And often people join because of a pretty face. Another parallel.
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Yes then they spoon feedbyou the other stuff...it was so hard for me to leave because I loved my friends and the peace I felt in the church but I knew it wasn't the Jesus of the bible:(😢
I agree but there is a low threshold at least in America for this type of thing.
For example “ignorance of the law is no excuse” is an oft cited phrase. Adults are presumed to know the law. I bet if more people actually read the law instead of relying on lawyers and cpa types to distill it for them that they would never sign up for all the crap that government sells with all the “duties and obligations and strings” which attach. At the end of the day whether informed consent is achieved is a matter of caveat emptor. As an adult especially all the resources are available to make an informed decision on almost any matter these days with the internet. Anything else is just people forsaking their own personal responsibility which I believe is a reason why narcissism is so rampant these days.
Red flags can be ever so big if your glasses are rose tinted