Therapist Gives Mental Health Review on Joker (Movie) | Therapist Reacts To Joker
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- čas přidán 11. 04. 2021
- The Joker's origin story seemed primed for me as a psychologist and counsellor to take a look and give my opinion on Arther Fleck and his mental descent within the DC world.
00:58 Opening scenes
04:29 Social work appointment
08:00 Bus scene
11:52 Adoption papers
20:52 Joker kills Murray
28:00 Final scene
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** The clips in this video are used purely for educational purposes and fall into the fair use rights act. These clips have been used for illustrative purposes to educate, highlight and elaborate on mental health issues and mental health treatment. As a mental health practitioner, these views are based on 10 years of experience and studies, but if you believe that you need direct mental health attention, please speak to your doctor or a therapist of your choice.
I remember tearing up every time he laughed, there is something so powerful in Joaquim’s acting that completely amazed me, as much as it made my heart break for this character (sorry my Englishs not perfect, not my native langage)
Your English was perfect :)
Your English is splendid. Looks like the only issue with the comment is the encounter it had with the Autocorrect police. Don't feel bad, though. Autocorrect has messed with many a comment, and many a youtuber. 😉
Joaquin’s joker is 1st
Heath ledger is 2nd
I completely understand your feelings.. his laughter made me uneasy. He is an excellent actor
@@maxzomick8733yep! I canNOT believe go on and on about the stupid Heath joker. The ONLY REASON they say that is cuz he DIED right before it’s released and he got that pity Oscar. He was a good actor not some powerhouse….just tiring seeing people do that JUST AND ONLY cuz he died. 🤡🙄🤮
It’s like, with a traumatic childhood, you can feel silenced at all times. And it gets you to a point where you just scream, act out, and scream louder just to finally be heard. Especially if you’re in a certain mindset, it feels like it’s the only way to finally get people to hear/recognize that you need help. That you’ve needed help for a long time. Trauma can make good people do bad things because, eventually, bad things are the only thing that get some shred of attention or help. I loved this movie. I loved it a lot. I’ve watched it so many times and it just hits me so close to home every time (not the murder part, but I suppose the behaviour I dunno but I’m not a murderer let me clarify). Wonderful video!
I get it. It's so hard to try and express yourself when it feels like no one is listening.
I wasn't heard or understand till the point I didn't care no more for validation. So I watched anime, cartoons, learned English, learned cooking, had a cleaning job for a while. There is always distraction.
But when I needed (need) help and lay it out. They don't get it, my thoughts can get real dark. A need a therapist, but it's full now in the place I live. What's left, just tag along. Crop it in, like when I was a child.
For me acting out: glare angery at people. They leave me, I let them. No one gets hurt. A friend of mine told me: please don't lose your shit.
Despite all the therapists and psychologists I’ve met with, this is the by far the person who helped the most, and I’ve never met him in person, I have so many of these problems, I can finally express myself properly
I love this movie so much, because it shows the darker side of Joker, not like the other movie with Suicide Squad with that "joker" version, it was shit with jared leto whoever. Joaquin Phoenix, and Heath Ledger, are better. @Abigailn Wollam I understand what you mean about trauma, not being heard or listened to, and it really freaking sucks.. but just know that you're not alone, not like Joker, and that goes for anyone. There are different types of mental illnesses, and it kicks my ass, I try not to let it, but sometimes it wins, but then I win against it: music, gaming, and poetry helps me, I know it's not the same for everyone, but we're not alone. And I do thank Joaquin Phoenix for being the Joker as well as Heath, but they are awesome
I'll be damned if you didn't just perfectly explain what I have felt my whole life, and tried to communicate. Much love.
This movie makes me want to cry every time I watch it. It feels so close and real. Thank you for your review.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Agreed. Mental health awareness and checking up on your friends , family , and loved ones at least once a week should be encouraged. This movie makes me wanna just hug the joker and tell him everything will be okay given the failure of the world thru his eyes.
It’s you when you snap one of these days eh
16:40
You shouldn't need to be a psychologist to figure that out...
Unfortunately, you're the first one I've ever seen doing it.
The point of this movie isn't to root for Arthur or justify his actions, its to *understand* why and who he is and becomes.
The problem isn't the person, its society and its complete lack of empathy.
I agree with you but we still have to find a way to live in a world which we don't feel welcome in.
Therefore by understanding our triggers and motivators we can shape our identity to work within a world which isn't empathitic to our needs.
It's not right or fair but it's a plight we all share.
@@Counsellor I agree with the statement, but what if a person is tired of trying to get into the world, be part of a society multiple times only to be rejected again and again. What kind of a life would he have? will he be ever able to accept himself? If he does manage to accept himself and realize that society treated him badly now its his time to do the same, what will happen of him?
@@sandeepreddy6265 When you say society do you mean friends? family?
If people are not respecting you then are they really people you should be hanging around with?
If it is the world at large takes a different stance.
Getting things wrong doesn't mean top it means keep on going until you get it right.
It's hard to keep on going but the more you try the more likely you are to succeed.
What is it that you are struggling with?
@@Counsellor Well sorry, I was in a pretty sad mood that day, well job stress, family stuff and all, well right now it's all better I sometimes feel, facing it all is way better than sitting in a corner, well people say try and try till you succeed. Thanks for the motivation....!!!!! This world would be much better with people who understand others just like you do......!!!!!😃😃😃
Why so serious?
The brilliance of the Joker is that you understand why. You don't really agree with what he did but you get why.
One time a had a severe panic attack and I experienced hysterical laughter after something really upset me, but to laugh uncontrollably hurt in such an emotional way.
Another time was a very severe panic attack and I couldn't stop screaming, I screamed my lungs out which was awful on it's own. But not being able to control the screaming or laughter was unnerving and I hated that
I’m really sorry you had to go through that. I hope that you can find a way to overcome attacks. I’m really sorry
When I was a teen/early twenties I used to laugh uncontrollably when I was nervous, anxious and scared. I once ran to the toilet because I started laughing when I saw my first dead body. I was a student nurse at the time, the psychologist happened to be on the ward and explained to me that it was an Emotional immaturity response and it will get better as I get old and more aware of my emotions. I am 32 years old now, I don't do it anymore because I am able to express my emotions better.
dude i getcha it’s hard to feel comfortable….😢
The painful forced laugh comes out of him involuntarily whenever he's stressed, uncomfortable or in emotional pain.
That's what a lot of ppl do, or force a smile
"How did you get these medical RECORDS, Arthur?"
'I used my head.'
Head butting is a classic sign of mental illness, but in this instance, he used his head as a weapon to get what he wanted., and things start turning around for him.
"If it was me lying in the street, you'd walk right over me" - ties Into the sign scene, where he was literally lying the street, with onlookers walking by. He knows Gotham is a cesspit as much as Bruce will learn later.
When we see that opening scene, everyone says, "Unfair" no one says "Help him."
My mind has broke to the point I went from crying to laughing this movie hits home with me very closely
I said a long time ago, we 'all' have a little bit of Arthur Fleck in us. Cuz when you think about it, this isn't the 'Jokers' story, the Joker was just the end result. This was Arthur Fleck's story, or should I say his tragedy. 🃏
@@QoQabai658 sad to say my ex broke my mind, ive had mental health issues for years been dealing with deptession and voices for as young as 11 I cut my wrist at age 12. When I watched this everything he said hit home specially the line where he said he realized his life is a comedy. I feel that way about mine
@@jaytincher1105 just know that I'm not laughing
I'm glad I see movies like this because it helps me realize how getting professional help may possibly help in the future. Making me more aware of my own mental illnesses
That's what's it's all about 👍
I remember the day I watched The Joker in the Cinema with my Stepfather, back then when it came out.
Absolutely loved this movie and it became one of my favorite movies ever.
I understood why Arthur felt like that and also understood why he did the things, that he did.
I even kinda felt like connected to him.
My stepfather said the movie was trash, but I knew that he just couldn't understand Arthur.
Thank you so much for the video! It was really interesting :).
Before the 24:24 mark the Joker's body language showed a man in complete turmoil and self loathing contemplating suicide and at that mark is the exact moment he decides instead to kill Murray displayed by a death look (Staring into ones eyes) and trembling lips (Intense hatred). The spreading of his legs at the very moment of him shooting is a classic expression of dominance. Twitching legs is technically not a sign of anxiety but a self soothing reaction to deal with anxiety.
Sooooo then twitching legs IS A SIGN OF ANXIETY. Christ maybe REREAD what you wrote! You say it’s a self soothing action one does when ANXIOUS but it’s not a sign of anxiety. Buuuuut so IF one is seen twitching their legs to self soothe FROM ANXIETY…..when I see them doing this then I l…..KNOW THEY’RE experiencing ANXIETY! 💥 BAM got it? Get it? Gooood grief. 🙄🤡😂
@@6Haunted-Days I didn’t say he wasn’t experiencing anxiety. His body language shows many signs of anxiety. I simply said twitching legs is not a sign of anxiety it is a self soothing technique that can used for many reasons. Twitching legs is a self soothing technique used when anxious, excited, disinterested, or bored among others. Therefore twitching legs by itself is known to be a self soothing technique but the reason for it can not be determined by itself. You must look at the totality of body language and in doing so it is obvious disinterest and boredom can be ruled out but there is no way to determine if the twitching of the legs was caused by anxiety, excitement or a combination of the two. Therefore, my point was it was a self soothing technique the reason of which cannot be determined. In this case it is more likely that the cause was excitement since the twitching was almost non existing before the shooting and very pronounced after the shooting.
I think the Clerk was trying to protect Arthur form the cruel truth in that document, the saddest part of a sad movie.
Loved the film. As an unfortunate suicide attempt survivor (unfortunate bc i survived + am now disabled), i saw myself as the Joker in my daily life 😭 I related to his feelings hardcore. I hate humanity. All we do is destroy the planet and kill others unnecessarily. I'm also vegan now after my attempt.
Anyone that didn't like this film is because the concept and the message went right over their heads. Movies like this easily goes over heads that are low to the ground
Actually, I didn't like this film because it just isn't very good. And there isn't really anything in it not to understand; the film beats you over the head with each plot development. No real drama, let alone suspense, as far as I can see.
@@wet-read must have been watching the wrong movie then. Some people try so hard to stand out
@@wet-read you're either 9 years old or 82. This movie was one of the most thought-provoking I've watched.
@@wheresmahat345
Ok. What are some other films you feel that way about? And have you seen the two films that chiefly inspired Joker?
awesome ! i really needed this explanation, i love how you talk. thank you sm
what he did was self defense until he hunted down the last guy and killed him but he must’ve enjoyed killing after the the 2 in the train
He was right tho, those guys were scum. Did they deserve to die? I don't know, it's not for me to answer these things. However, it was their direct actions that led to their demise. Consequences are usually a reflection of actions.
Thanks for the video! This was really an impressive piece of analysis!
Hi Phil great video mate keep up.the good work 👏
One thing that really came across to me in this performance is the difference between Arthur before and after becoming "Joker". It was almost as if Arthur wore the mask, and the Joker, despite the face paint, was the shedding of the mask. The real mask was the way he would laugh to conceal any negative emotions he had. As Joker he was relaxed and confident, things Arthur never was. His behaviour was so extreme (to the point of uncontrolled violence and murder) because he was aligning his actions with his feelings for the first time, having never done it before and having never learned to properly regulate either.
love your reaction
Great breakdown of a great movie!
The most beautifully crafted origin film I've ever seen.
You have a great understanding of why Arthur is the way he is. I think most of us can understand Arthur. What I was a bit uncomfortable with was the Counsellor in you forever trying to see a way in which to try and mould someone like Arthur to the World, to have him use the old coping methods, integration strategies etc. Mental health and personality issues are never in a vacuum, as you know. They're exacerbated and sometimes created by society's absolute lack of empathy, awareness, and brutality. Arthur says it best himself..'Why do people who know you have a mental illness, expect you to act like you dont?'
There has to be at least some acknowledgement of society's blame, and some validation for folk that are suffering the isolation and alienation. If everything that comes from mental health professionals mouth is yet another formulaic 'coping skill', or breathing exercise, with a distant approach,..then nothing in the mental health field, or within a patients life will change. Arthur represents society's failure. We really should be doing better.
I was in the theater watching this movie, but before I could watch it I had to agree that I was suffering from depression or aniexty from the clerks there. I said no but I am actually severely troubled by aniexty and depression. I didn't understand why that even matter though cause I thought it was just another film or something. But as I watched the film I felt uncomfortable and troubled...but since I was with my friends I couldn't really show it too much. I mean they probably could see something but didn't pay no to it cause I didn't make a sense or anything.
But during that night or past few days I couldn't forget the movie because I related with joker in this film almost to the letter. I even laugh sometimes uncontrollably even when I deal with scenes from a show or movie in around people, if their people in the area, or if I don't think I'm alone, which is never honestly.
Nothing I felt like has ever worked out for me and everytime it does I stop whatever I am doing to make it worse for myself. For example I've been homeless for 10 years working in one area to the next sleeping on the next couch I can find.
I tried to get help but my situation that I put myself doesn't allow me to stay in one area for too long and I'm getting tired of it...but I can't stop..
People who know me think I'm like the boy who cried wolf way to often and doesn't believe me anymore...
Soon after they just stop caring cause I'm wanting to much from a person...
I can talk about it all day..bit I don't feel like I ever getting anywhere cause I might be forcing myself to forget or not pay attention to any kind of improvement.
Sorry I went on a long rant...but as I was watching this I felt like you were talking to me a little in this... But I felt disorientated or felt an outer body experience and was feeling uncomfortable for some reason. Then felt dizzy and had to sit up, pause the video to collect my thoughts and keep myself from shifting to a different mind set. For fear of losing myself to a different personality of some kind...
I know I'm not doing so well...but I'm just trying to survive. I don't know what to do cause I can't keep up with a routine...and even if I did I lived with out a routine that living in one would give me anxiety and a feeling of needing to leave. Like when your in a small room getting smaller...
Hope you are doing alright buddy. When I watched the movie, I was feeling deeply uncomfortable and disturbed... Seeing Joker evoked an emotion to empathize with him and I really cried for him.
You are not alone in this journey. If you need someone to talk, I can help you out! Don't give up!
This was amazing and an extremely interesting breakdown thank you new sub
I really felt for the joker when he found out he was adopted... coming from a Foster home I see kids like that go through stuff. I was so impressed at how clever this movie was
one wonders how can somebody kill a man and besides taking a life, ruining your own life...at 27:10 the joker does this little reaction of relief after murdering his agressor thats so primal, yet his legs are twitching as he is immediately aware of what he just did...phoenix's acting is sublime in every frame, really worthy of his oscar
Thank you.
The fact that his mother said he was a happy boy but he couldn't cry because of his condition
It seems that you are a good man.
Hello! Love your content. Would love to see your analysis of the movie Good Time (2017).
he has Pseudobulbar Affect.
Love this movie the joker is an awesome guy 👍 I wish Deadpool could meet him they would have a lot of fun together
The whole point behind the Joker character is that humans will always be primal, violent, selfish creatures. He’s everything that is base about us that we try to ignore.
Arthur isn't a bad person, the people around him are..
thank you from a vet. no help i got anymore only meds. sounds silly i just found your vid and you sound much smarter then the psychiatrist that helpt me , after 5. they denied me. i think that is wrong so i went over there with a gun. and told them to please help me or take it shoot or i will take it and kill him. wich i would not do. a free kill thats what i thought.. later i talked to him he said he was scared and dident want to shoot me but the gun was on the table in the middle. i dont know what i would have done. i was not meself , spend some time in a mental hospital and went home. things are decent but far from perfect pills and no mental help
I think you skipped out on a lot of clinically significant information from before and after he went to the mental health hospital to retrieve his mother's mental health information.
Yea I know right? I was SHOCKED he left out him KILLING HIS MOTHER! 🤡😂🙄 I’m like whhhat? Kinda HUGE area there that’s important! I wonder why he didn’t show that and discuss it? Very odd.
You missed the train and the killing of the guy and letting the little person go!
Such an amazing portrayal of mental illness coupled with feelings of betrayal and trauma. At least from this psychotic's perspective. I've never seen anything so relateable.
Cam you help me
Your analysis are amazing, I love your channel, you should react to The midnight gospel, especially the last episode The mouse of silver.
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The last 2 episodes of that series really opened a door of emotions that I had closed for a while regarding losing family members that I loved and coping through those loses. And I don't wanna spoil a lot to you, but the fact that those are real conversations perhaps somewhat too philosophical from time to time, but it makes it really incredible to watch.
Can you help me
Taxi driver?
No one listens no one wants to listen to him .
Story of my life .
All hope and light at the end of the tunnel snuffed out .
Some of us feel that in our inner soul .
Btw that soul is gone . Ripped out and stomped on .
There are millions of " jokers" running around in this world...nothing special..numb to it
"Hoooly shiiit, I caame out loooooking the same way as i do today...aaaam a gigaaantic baby, and i do not know shtiiiiitt."
by the way, that is you, LOL
While I appreciate you and this video. I don’t think you’ll ever understand the mental health struggles due to poor American healthcare until you live here. It’s brutally terrible and should be seen as a crime against humanity