The box in Aus is... weird. The price took a huge leap, $205 vs the typical $160-180, but then the actual kits themselves took a monster leap and many that I know who were considering them have since backed right off, they want $110 for the knights and $105 for the warriors, so by that comparison the vanguard box is still a 'good deal', even though for many, breaching the $100 mark for regular troops is causing many to go cold turkey. On the other hand, if you manage to get the previous start collecting, you get both the knights and warriors, and it was $165, if you keep an eye out or search swap and sells, seems you can still get it for same or cheaper here, picked mine up for $120 about two weeks ago. Just seems the vanguard box is only decent if considering what's *currently available*
@@richardgonzalez9773 actually where I get the few things I do but directly. Pretty reliable. Still, doesn't excuse the absurd prices GW are throwing out there
I ended up pre ordering the vanguard and lord on mount. I already bought the new army box set and 5 chaos knights, so my purchases round out the essentials I need (minus the chariot)
It’s even less value now that the same boxset is being used for Spearhead. What’s always amazed me about AOS / 40K fans is how they say “that boxset is great value because it’s $50 off” but they never stop to think their plastic sprue was very overpriced to begin with. It’s a great marketing trick by GW.
Got the Army box (still available online for $170) and Vanguard box (sold the chariot). Then completed just under 2k (1960) with a Chaos Sorcerer on Manticore, a box of Varanguard, and a single Endless Spell.
I think im going to get the vanguard kit i have the new start collecting and launch set so i could use more warriors and knights. I already have a chariot someone at my local shop gave me so an extra 15 bucks for the chaos lord sound pretty worth.
Sounds like a great plan! I forgot to mention the new battletome has an option to run chariots as a unit of 3 so you'd be one closer to that if you're at all interested.
I pre-ordered the Vanguard kit, then cancelled my pre-order and ordered the Warriors and Knights separately. If I didn't already own the Lord on foot I'd have stuck with the Vanguard box, but I can't see myself wanting two of him, and I don't like the Chariot at all. Sure, I could probably have sold the Lord and Chariot for enough on eBay to have made it cheaper, but I imagine eBay will be swamped with those kits for a while and prices will be incredibly low, so I didn't want to take that risk.
Yeah I think it's a pretty awesome kit if you're sure you want everything included. Particularly if you don't already have the battletome. Like @LeonElJohnson mentioned it's not a full army but you could build into one, chosen are a battleline option in Host of the Everchose which looks to be one of the stronger options at a glance
Maybe if I pick up 40k some day (I have been tempted by the newer models and the lore) but for now I'm planning to continue to focus on AoS (and to a lesser degree AoS spin offs)--currently I only have the time for one game unfortunately (and still a lot of grey orcs in my pile of shame haha)
The box in Aus is... weird. The price took a huge leap, $205 vs the typical $160-180, but then the actual kits themselves took a monster leap and many that I know who were considering them have since backed right off, they want $110 for the knights and $105 for the warriors, so by that comparison the vanguard box is still a 'good deal', even though for many, breaching the $100 mark for regular troops is causing many to go cold turkey.
On the other hand, if you manage to get the previous start collecting, you get both the knights and warriors, and it was $165, if you keep an eye out or search swap and sells, seems you can still get it for same or cheaper here, picked mine up for $120 about two weeks ago.
Just seems the vanguard box is only decent if considering what's *currently available*
Totally agree, and yeah I've noticed Australia seems to get some of the worst pricing of any region :(
Emerald Hobbies has a consistent 20% off and 10 dollar flat shipping aus wide.
@@richardgonzalez9773 actually where I get the few things I do but directly. Pretty reliable.
Still, doesn't excuse the absurd prices GW are throwing out there
@@silentark6023 oh not at all, the prices are ridiculous
Hey! I love your channel and am looking forward to more. Have you looked into the seraphon box? Just curious on your take on it
I ended up pre ordering the vanguard and lord on mount. I already bought the new army box set and 5 chaos knights, so my purchases round out the essentials I need (minus the chariot)
sweet new budget waagh video
I've bought the Slaves to Darkness release box with the intention of using them as a Fantasy Army for Old World
Only one box?
same
It’s even less value now that the same boxset is being used for Spearhead.
What’s always amazed me about AOS / 40K fans is how they say “that boxset is great value because it’s $50 off” but they never stop to think their plastic sprue was very overpriced to begin with. It’s a great marketing trick by GW.
Got the Army box (still available online for $170) and Vanguard box (sold the chariot). Then completed just under 2k (1960) with a Chaos Sorcerer on Manticore, a box of Varanguard, and a single Endless Spell.
Still waiting for the return of the king!
Hey bro come back! I just started a Lumineth realm lords army and you should make a tactics vid you are such a great channel! :)
I think im going to get the vanguard kit i have the new start collecting and launch set so i could use more warriors and knights. I already have a chariot someone at my local shop gave me so an extra 15 bucks for the chaos lord sound pretty worth.
Sounds like a great plan! I forgot to mention the new battletome has an option to run chariots as a unit of 3 so you'd be one closer to that if you're at all interested.
Almost same! But I got wild lucky and got the old start collecting box just waiting for the mail man to bring me my army box now
wish it came with the new chaso lord or a different HQ unit
I pre-ordered the Vanguard kit, then cancelled my pre-order and ordered the Warriors and Knights separately. If I didn't already own the Lord on foot I'd have stuck with the Vanguard box, but I can't see myself wanting two of him, and I don't like the Chariot at all. Sure, I could probably have sold the Lord and Chariot for enough on eBay to have made it cheaper, but I imagine eBay will be swamped with those kits for a while and prices will be incredibly low, so I didn't want to take that risk.
Yeah sounds like probably not worth the hassle of flipping either, best of luck with your army!
Hope you are coming back when 4e hits
I feel bad for Americans having to pay 50% more. I was so shocked when I went into warhammer stores in America.
disappointing box for me as I'm only interested in the warriors and the knight. would have preferred the karkadrak tbh
They wouldn't redo something theyve boxed up before
My local store still has the Release Box is it worth picking up if I like all the units in it?
I would say yes. Just bare in mind the box by itself is not a legal army. Read the book first then decide how you want to expand from there
Yeah I think it's a pretty awesome kit if you're sure you want everything included. Particularly if you don't already have the battletome. Like @LeonElJohnson mentioned it's not a full army but you could build into one, chosen are a battleline option in Host of the Everchose which looks to be one of the stronger options at a glance
@@BudgetWaaagh I don't have the book yet I really like the Beast Units and the Prince
Return when?
Have you ever considered learning 40k and doing some 40k videos? That would be awesome
Maybe if I pick up 40k some day (I have been tempted by the newer models and the lore) but for now I'm planning to continue to focus on AoS (and to a lesser degree AoS spin offs)--currently I only have the time for one game unfortunately (and still a lot of grey orcs in my pile of shame haha)
You got 15 Chaos Warriors in the old Kit.
i dont like the new vanguard set the old warlord model and chariot shouldve gotten a new look.
Yeah hopefully they get an update one day
honestly what has been released in terms of refreshes now is currently it for std for a while