According to a USA government report in 2007 (Republicans in power), the NHS was equal top 5 in quality to the rest of the world, and cheapest of those 5 by far. Today we're 37 in the world, behind Cuba.
The Torries saw how much money private insurance and privatized healthcare was making for our rich people and wanted to copy it. The US, Canada, UK, Australia....all are being canabilized so the super rich can get richer and the rest of us can go back to peasantry.
It would have been useful to extend the graph further back in time to demonstrate how unprecedented this is in the history of the NHS. i.e. we haven't seen declines like this happen before under other governments- this genuinely is a problem of the last 13 years of policy.
You are right it is the worse state the NHS has ever been! By extending the Graph It would show the previous record was held be Thatchers Tory Govenment during the 80s & 90s when they abolished NHS dentists and all waiting times were over 2yrs.. Cancer patients died waiting over 2yrs to see a hospital consultant - only for their family to receive the hospital app after theyd buried their loved one...!
@@christea9582 indeed. And this is worse than that, even. Real-terms per person spending has gone down every year since the Tories came in, which is why they only ever talk about total spend. It had been completely stable for a decade previously. I think the Tories' mental model is that all public services are inefficient and cost savings can be made everywhere. If you reduce funding, that will motivate those lazy public sector workers to be more efficient. This was simply not the case with the NHS, as should have been obvious if you looked at the numbers instead of going on gut feel and ideology. The NHS, famously, offered world-beating outcomes and value for money. When you reduce funding for an already-efficient system, we would expect outcomes to get exponentially worse as funding reduces, because problems with underfunding in one area compound in others. That's exactly what we see in reality. What should be happening in the context of an ageing population is per patient spending going _above_ the levels when the Tories came in, because our per-person healthcare need is higher now than it was then. How to pay for that? Well, UK real terms per-capita GDP is higher now than it was before 2008, so if we don't have the money now but we did then- where did it go?
Torys have pulled the same trick the GOP did in the US. Convinced the working class that the party of the super rich somehow cares for them and uses social wedge issues (immigrants and euro phobia in the uk, abortion, racisms, guns, xenophobia you name it in the us) to distract them from the fact that the people they support are the very people breaking all the systems of government. They want the NHS so broken that people put their hands up, say fuck it all, and agree to privatize the whole system. You dont want out system in any form. People making six figures have what are called high deductible plans, where you have a deductible of 2k (on the low end) to 4 or 5k on the high end, before the insurance company pays a dime. This is a plan you pay for out of your check every pay day. Also, you still have co pays on top of that. The number one cause of bankruptcy for the working and middle class in america, those with health insurance, is healthcare. Get a serious health injury, one that takes out of work for a month or more....it can financially cripple you for the rest of your life. Fix the NHS. Tax your uber rich and fix the NHS before its too late. Our system is awful, it works for the uber rich and no one else.
Hmm how much of this is due to Unions? Also public sector bad management? Unions just want more and more money which is not sustainable especially as the public sector haemorrhages money. Tories not perfect but however. Unions just want everyone to pay more and more for less and less rather than the other way around.
Seen as the pay for nhs staff has been horrendously low for over a decade, I'd say anything to do with a union is for the birds. Its underfunded by choice. When it does get any funding its normally siphoned off to the private sector. Unions not the problem by any messure
According to a USA government report in 2007 (Republicans in power), the NHS was equal top 5 in quality to the rest of the world, and cheapest of those 5 by far. Today we're 37 in the world, behind Cuba.
The Torries saw how much money private insurance and privatized healthcare was making for our rich people and wanted to copy it. The US, Canada, UK, Australia....all are being canabilized so the super rich can get richer and the rest of us can go back to peasantry.
It would have been useful to extend the graph further back in time to demonstrate how unprecedented this is in the history of the NHS.
i.e. we haven't seen declines like this happen before under other governments- this genuinely is a problem of the last 13 years of policy.
You are right it is the worse state the NHS has ever been!
By extending the Graph It would show the previous record was held be Thatchers Tory Govenment during the 80s & 90s when they abolished NHS dentists and all waiting times were over 2yrs.. Cancer patients died waiting over 2yrs to see a hospital consultant - only for their family to receive the hospital app after theyd buried their loved one...!
@@christea9582 indeed. And this is worse than that, even.
Real-terms per person spending has gone down every year since the Tories came in, which is why they only ever talk about total spend. It had been completely stable for a decade previously.
I think the Tories' mental model is that all public services are inefficient and cost savings can be made everywhere. If you reduce funding, that will motivate those lazy public sector workers to be more efficient.
This was simply not the case with the NHS, as should have been obvious if you looked at the numbers instead of going on gut feel and ideology.
The NHS, famously, offered world-beating outcomes and value for money.
When you reduce funding for an already-efficient system, we would expect outcomes to get exponentially worse as funding reduces, because problems with underfunding in one area compound in others. That's exactly what we see in reality.
What should be happening in the context of an ageing population is per patient spending going _above_ the levels when the Tories came in, because our per-person healthcare need is higher now than it was then.
How to pay for that? Well, UK real terms per-capita GDP is higher now than it was before 2008, so if we don't have the money now but we did then- where did it go?
This is truly frieghtning!!
David Cameron is one of the biggest reasons.
The causes......? !
If you're working class and can't afford private health care and vote Tory I must question your sanity.
Torys have pulled the same trick the GOP did in the US. Convinced the working class that the party of the super rich somehow cares for them and uses social wedge issues (immigrants and euro phobia in the uk, abortion, racisms, guns, xenophobia you name it in the us) to distract them from the fact that the people they support are the very people breaking all the systems of government. They want the NHS so broken that people put their hands up, say fuck it all, and agree to privatize the whole system. You dont want out system in any form. People making six figures have what are called high deductible plans, where you have a deductible of 2k (on the low end) to 4 or 5k on the high end, before the insurance company pays a dime. This is a plan you pay for out of your check every pay day. Also, you still have co pays on top of that. The number one cause of bankruptcy for the working and middle class in america, those with health insurance, is healthcare. Get a serious health injury, one that takes out of work for a month or more....it can financially cripple you for the rest of your life. Fix the NHS. Tax your uber rich and fix the NHS before its too late. Our system is awful, it works for the uber rich and no one else.
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Was the public/private partnership used in 1930's germany - to clean up the population?
Hmm how much of this is due to Unions? Also public sector bad management? Unions just want more and more money which is not sustainable especially as the public sector haemorrhages money. Tories not perfect but however. Unions just want everyone to pay more and more for less and less rather than the other way around.
Seen as the pay for nhs staff has been horrendously low for over a decade, I'd say anything to do with a union is for the birds.
Its underfunded by choice. When it does get any funding its normally siphoned off to the private sector.
Unions not the problem by any messure