Charcoal over graphite power actually works pretty good, i use the powder to create the under tones and light shading then charcoal pencils for the darker finish work, as long as the graphite is put down to a level you can't see it's infamous "shine" you shouldn't have any problem although you'll have to use a softer grade charcoal than you'd would on clean paper. The trick is to not completely fill the paper's tooth with the graphite powder so the charcoal still has something to bite into, that takes a little time to use to and using the right paper is a must, velum bristol and most Canson papers have the right amount of tooth as does 300 series Strathmore. Mixed media, hot press water color and smooth bristol won't work and heavier (90 plus lb, 130 plus gsm) drawing papers can be a challenge as well.
I’ll have to try that. I’ve had good luck with Mix Media but I mostly draw with charcoal only. I haven’t drawn enough with mixing the two mediums to have a paper preference past Mix Media paper. Alway down to try new techniques though. Thanks for the info John 😊🙌🏻
voila is really the cherry on top, thank you so much on the tutorial on how to mix graphite and charcoal together, i really feel like this was the simplest and easiest tutorial ever.
Thank you for this channel! I love how u explain step by step. I’m a newbie when it comes to drawing, I’ve done a few portraits, and I’m so proud of myself. I Absolutely LOVE , drawing and I love learning new techniques, and your tips! ❤ 🙏🙏🙏
@@MesserCreations since you said to keep it in the family, should I just stick with 2b charcoal with a 2b graphite and like 6b charcoal with a 6b graphite as an example?
@@MesserCreations thanks bro I'm new to charcoal and I'm trying to get hang of it. I heard graphite are great for sketching but I'll make sure the family groups stick together 💯
Absolutely, I prefer charcoal over graphite for my drawings but it’s only because I like the rich contrast I can achieve between my high and my low values. I’ve always thought graphite just left something to be desired in that regard. That’s just my opinion though. Take care! 😃
Hi. This is very helpful for beginners as well. I want to do a blend of the 2 mediums. By the way, I'm interested with the glove you used. Nice to use.
I’m glad you enjoyed this video. The glove I use is nice especially if you draw A LOT like I do. Plus it keeps the oil from my hand off the paper. Hope you are well and take care! 😃🙌🏻
I want to use charcoal but i only have the bar style compressed chacoal because chacoal doesnt shine unlike graphite. But i use graphite more than charcoal because its kinda messy because of the powder. And thanks for this video because i know how to use both charcoal and graphite.
Excellent tutorial. Very professionally presented and the fluency and clarity of the artist was phenomenal. I will definitely follow the techniques demonstrated today and try to master my art which I understand is an ongoing process to no end. Thank you. GQ
Nice video, will be trying to apply graphite and charcoal appropriately and trying to plan my drawings out beforehand, which would make sense lol. I agree with when you say you'll always be learning new stuff as you go. For me even some of the most basic things, took me a while to wrap my head around and understand. It's good sometimes you understand why before you execute.
Glad it was helpful! For me I think the biggest thing that will help any artist is to understand the fundamental principles of their medium of choice. That way they will have a solid foundation to go off of. Hope you are doing well and staying safe, take care! #neverstopdrawing
I learned this pretty quickly, charcoal and graphite don't play well together. Curious how mixing powder for different values would work. On a side note, Gelly pens are overrated. They clog so easily.
Wow been looking for this for some time, struggling with dark backgrounds and attempting to mix both mediums. Your simple yet comprehensive explanation has given me food for thought, and demo was just excellent. Great video thanks
That’s a great question Chelsea. I have yet to use those two mediums together so I can’t speak to it. I would think that they would work but as far as the aesthetic being appealing I have no idea. Maybe try it out and let me know?
Maybe im slow, but does soft medium and hard (charcoal or graphite), mean the variances of shades of light and dark, or how soft or hard it feels on paper. When looking at the charcoal scale, the soft, medium and hard I didnt see any difference in shade or how it looked. The graphite scale it all looked the same to me til you got into the H's. Hard maybe looked lighter, but I honestly didnt see any differences. That really confuses me. I try to note similarities to make things easier but cant here. Like was thinking maybe the higher the number the darker the shade but all the numbers vary.
Thank you for asking about this Anna. When it comes to charcoal the less binder that is in the charcoal the lower of a value to typically get, (but not always)* it depends on the brand and type of charcoal you use. Also your pressure control that you use when applying the charcoal onto the paper will also play into how light or dark it appears. When it comes to graphite typically the softer the rating the lower the value and the higher the rating the lighter, again this has to do with the amount of binder infused into the graphite and the pressure control you use during your actual application. I hope that helps? Let me know if it doesn't and I can try to clarify more.
Excellent instructions. I've made the mistake of mixing with no regard to matching groups, as you have done here, with predictable results. Can't wait to have a crack at it. Thank you for posting.
Absolutely, whenever you go to seal your drawing with the spray you’ll only spray it after you have decided that you are completely finished with the drawing. Hope this helped you, and take care! 😃
Hi! May I ask, when do I use the soft, medium, and hard charcoal pencils along with their specific graphite ranges? Can I use each range for different parts of an image or I must stick to a certain range only when drawing an image? Would appreciate your response, Thank you!
Hello, the range chart that I show in the video is more so one can see and understand which charcoals correlate best to graphite’s of the same consistency. So to answer your first question you can use them whenever you feel is necessary. You can use each range for different parts of your drawing. The biggest thing to remember is soft charcoal is for your base layers so naturally the graphite’s that correlate to the soft charcoal are the ones you would want to use with your soft charcoal. Medium charcoal is for building up your low values and solidifying your underlying form. Lastly your hard charcoal is for detail work. Hope that explains it better? Let me know and I can always clarify to help 😃 take care!
I really appreciate the fact that you took the time to film this video however, I would have liked for you to explain it instead of writing it and talking about it simultaneously. I am very visual and i tend to look at what you are writing instead of what you are saying and it throws me off.
Absolutely, I had a professor once who would write and talk about what he was teaching at the same time and I personally enjoyed that teaching style. Everyone is different, I do have a lot more drawing tutorials where I just talk and draw. Maybe those would be useful for you? Hope they help and thank you for the feedback. Take care 😊
Hello Seiya, unfortunately beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder. What looks right to someone, will look completely wrong to another. I appreciate your perspective though, take care!
@@MesserCreations wew i dont think that's got anything to do with the elements in mixture my friend. Try my suggestion, you'll get it. I know its not easy to admit hehe.
2 years old video and you have seen each and every comment..... big respect man
Of course! 😊 I always want to help you guys out anyway I can. Take care!
@@MesserCreations u too
Charcoal over graphite power actually works pretty good, i use the powder to create the under tones and light shading then charcoal pencils for the darker finish work, as long as the graphite is put down to a level you can't see it's infamous "shine" you shouldn't have any problem although you'll have to use a softer grade charcoal than you'd would on clean paper. The trick is to not completely fill the paper's tooth with the graphite powder so the charcoal still has something to bite into, that takes a little time to use to and using the right paper is a must, velum bristol and most Canson papers have the right amount of tooth as does 300 series Strathmore. Mixed media, hot press water color and smooth bristol won't work and heavier (90 plus lb, 130 plus gsm) drawing papers can be a challenge as well.
I’ll have to try that. I’ve had good luck with Mix Media but I mostly draw with charcoal only. I haven’t drawn enough with mixing the two mediums to have a paper preference past Mix Media paper. Alway down to try new techniques though. Thanks for the info John 😊🙌🏻
voila is really the cherry on top, thank you so much on the tutorial on how to mix graphite and charcoal together, i really feel like this was the simplest and easiest tutorial ever.
That’s awesome to hear! I’m glad you enjoyed this one. 😃🙌🏻
@@MesserCreations 😁😁 thank you sensei!!
Thank you for this channel! I love how u explain step by step. I’m a newbie when it comes to drawing, I’ve done a few portraits, and I’m so proud of myself. I Absolutely LOVE , drawing and I love learning new techniques, and your tips! ❤ 🙏🙏🙏
I’m so glad that you found the channel and that it is helping you 😊🙏🏻
i just started drawing and this was the best tutorial ive ever found. thanks a alot
I’m so glad it was helpful for you! 😃
I usually do this opposite to the way you do it. I usually put in the charcoal last.
Nice work. I left you a giant like!
I create art tutorials.
That’s actually the correct way, graphite on Charcoal is a big no
This video was very helpful.. Thank you for the information!
Glad it was helpful! :)
Thank you! I had been searching for exactly this content! Instant like, and subscribe w/bell ring!
Awesome, thank you! Glad it helped :) Welcome to the Messer Creations family!
Oh that's cool, I like using graphite but now I will try to use charcoal with it and experiment!! thanks, much love.
So glad it was helpful, take care! 😃🙌🏻
2B is they lightest one for me, 8B is the darkest one
If it works for you that is all that matters 😊
@@MesserCreations since you said to keep it in the family, should I just stick with 2b charcoal with a 2b graphite and like 6b charcoal with a 6b graphite as an example?
Hey Allen, that’s what I would do. Keep softer ratings together and harder ratings together as well.
@@MesserCreations thanks bro I'm new to charcoal and I'm trying to get hang of it. I heard graphite are great for sketching but I'll make sure the family groups stick together 💯
Absolutely, I prefer charcoal over graphite for my drawings but it’s only because I like the rich contrast I can achieve between my high and my low values. I’ve always thought graphite just left something to be desired in that regard. That’s just my opinion though. Take care! 😃
Really good video ! Loved the examples and clear instructions thank you 🙏
Thank you 🙏🏻 I’m so glad it was helpful for you.
Hi. This is very helpful for beginners as well. I want to do a blend of the 2 mediums. By the way, I'm interested with the glove you used. Nice to use.
I’m glad you enjoyed this video. The glove I use is nice especially if you draw A LOT like I do. Plus it keeps the oil from my hand off the paper. Hope you are well and take care! 😃🙌🏻
I just bought a graphite set and i wnat to know more UwU
Thank you!!
Btw your voice is calming 👀
Yay! Thank you so much. I am glad that this video helped you :) Take care Vanilla!
Thank you when you just start you got these pencils and font know what goes with what great job beautiful eye
This was the best video ever! Thank you!
You're so welcome!
❤very helpful
Glad you think so!
I use 2b for shading and 8b for sketching.
Nice! I draw more with medium charcoal than anything else.
I want to use charcoal but i only have the bar style compressed chacoal because chacoal doesnt shine unlike graphite. But i use graphite more than charcoal because its kinda messy because of the powder.
And thanks for this video because i know how to use both charcoal and graphite.
Glad I could help :)
Just discovered your channel! Thank you for your invaluable tips!! ..
Hey Kathy! So glad you found the channel. You are most welcome 😊🙌🏻
Excellent tutorial. Very professionally presented and the fluency and clarity of the artist was phenomenal. I will definitely follow the techniques demonstrated today and try to master my art which I understand is an ongoing process to no end.
Thank you.
GQ
I appreciate that. I’m glad it was helpful for you. It is an ongoing process but the trick is to enjoy ever moment of it. Never stop drawing 😊🙌🏻
Most basic tutorial ever! Very helpful
Glad it was helpful! :)
Where did you purchase the black glove that you use when drawing with the pencils? I really enjoyed your video...thanks for your time.
Carol Harrill im also looking for that glove hey. It really helps
It will come wit H& B drawing set
Ok sir
Question. Can you grind charcole sticks? And how do you grind them? I love you,re video,s
You can totally sharpen them. I use the sand paper strips that come with most art sets to sharpen mine.
Ok thanks😁😄😊🖐🏾👍🏾
You,re an amazing artist. I love you,re eye drawing. Can you use charcole pencils alone or do you need grapith pencil? 😁👍🏾🖐🏾
I appreciate that 😊🙏🏻 you can use charcoal alone.
Thank you😁🖐🏾👍🏾
You are welcome
Wow, it would have taken me a very long time to figure this out myself, Thank you!
Of course Katherine, glad it was helpful for you! 😊
Brilliant video, what a talent you are !
Thank you so much Stephen! I really appreciate that 😀
I like the matte look of the charcoal. The graphite often gives this shiny look. I hate it. Maybe just using it smudged will work.
I like the matte look of the charcoal too :)
Tq bro for this video its help me aaa lot
My pleasure, glad it helped 😊🙌🏻
Thank you very
You are so welcome my friend 😊🙏🏻
Nice video, will be trying to apply graphite and charcoal appropriately and trying to plan my drawings out beforehand, which would make sense lol. I agree with when you say you'll always be learning new stuff as you go. For me even some of the most basic things, took me a while to wrap my head around and understand. It's good sometimes you understand why before you execute.
Glad it was helpful! For me I think the biggest thing that will help any artist is to understand the fundamental principles of their medium of choice. That way they will have a solid foundation to go off of. Hope you are doing well and staying safe, take care! #neverstopdrawing
im also using this both medium in my art works ..
That's great! What do you like to draw?
Really, thank you for this awesome video!
My pleasure! Glad you liked it :)
I learned this pretty quickly, charcoal and graphite don't play well together. Curious how mixing powder for different values would work.
On a side note, Gelly pens are overrated. They clog so easily.
Interesting! I've never used Jelly pencils, Ill have to try them.
I only use charcole,soft pastels and acrylic paint.
I’m mostly charcoal and graphite. Sometimes I’ll sketch out drawings in colored pencils.
Ok cool😊🖐🏾👍🏾😁
Wonderful
. . Great information
Many many thanks Menaka :)
This video was very helpful 👏
Thanks
That’s awesome! I’m glad it was helpful for you 😊🙌🏻
I use cotton
That works really well too 😃
this is so helpfull for me as a art beginner
Yay! I’m so glad
Wow been looking for this for some time, struggling with dark backgrounds and attempting to mix both mediums. Your simple yet comprehensive explanation has given me food for thought, and demo was just excellent. Great video thanks
You are so welcome! I am glad that it was helpful :)
This explains my problem.
Glad it was helpful Tom :)
Can you usesoft pastels with charcoal and or graghite?
That’s a great question Chelsea. I have yet to use those two mediums together so I can’t speak to it. I would think that they would work but as far as the aesthetic being appealing I have no idea. Maybe try it out and let me know?
Maybe im slow, but does soft medium and hard (charcoal or graphite), mean the variances of shades of light and dark, or how soft or hard it feels on paper. When looking at the charcoal scale, the soft, medium and hard I didnt see any difference in shade or how it looked. The graphite scale it all looked the same to me til you got into the H's. Hard maybe looked lighter, but I honestly didnt see any differences. That really confuses me. I try to note similarities to make things easier but cant here. Like was thinking maybe the higher the number the darker the shade but all the numbers vary.
Thank you for asking about this Anna. When it comes to charcoal the less binder that is in the charcoal the lower of a value to typically get, (but not always)* it depends on the brand and type of charcoal you use. Also your pressure control that you use when applying the charcoal onto the paper will also play into how light or dark it appears. When it comes to graphite typically the softer the rating the lower the value and the higher the rating the lighter, again this has to do with the amount of binder infused into the graphite and the pressure control you use during your actual application. I hope that helps? Let me know if it doesn't and I can try to clarify more.
Can you mix both graphite and charcoal dust and use them to draw/blend?.. Mixing the complementary shades
Absolutely you can! 😃
New to your channel, but this is a great video.
Welcome Marie! Glad you enjoyed this video 😊
that was fantastic
Glad you enjoyed this one Bruce. 😃
I'm an idiot, I keep trying to layer it and then end up thinking "this charcoal isn't very dark at all".
Thanks for the video.
You are NOT an idiot Dale. It’s all about learning new techniques and having fun while you learn. Take care my friend! 😃
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Try that, blending first an being subtle
Excellent instructions. I've made the mistake of mixing with no regard to matching groups, as you have done here, with predictable results. Can't wait to have a crack at it. Thank you for posting.
My pleasure :) Glad it was helpful!
Great info. Thank you. What about charcoal powder? How does it fit in here?
You’re welcome, as long as you know the “grade” of the charcoal powder then yes.
@@MesserCreations Thank you!
Sure thing 😊
Sir can we use fixative spray after blending charcoal and graphite???
Absolutely, whenever you go to seal your drawing with the spray you’ll only spray it after you have decided that you are completely finished with the drawing. Hope this helped you, and take care! 😃
Thank you so much! 💖
You are so welcome! :)
Thank you sir but I am so confused in a medium charcoal & oil give me some suggestions
What questions do you have my friend?
Hi! May I ask, when do I use the soft, medium, and hard charcoal pencils along with their specific graphite ranges? Can I use each range for different parts of an image or I must stick to a certain range only when drawing an image? Would appreciate your response, Thank you!
Hello, the range chart that I show in the video is more so one can see and understand which charcoals correlate best to graphite’s of the same consistency. So to answer your first question you can use them whenever you feel is necessary. You can use each range for different parts of your drawing. The biggest thing to remember is soft charcoal is for your base layers so naturally the graphite’s that correlate to the soft charcoal are the ones you would want to use with your soft charcoal. Medium charcoal is for building up your low values and solidifying your underlying form. Lastly your hard charcoal is for detail work. Hope that explains it better? Let me know and I can always clarify to help 😃 take care!
@@MesserCreations Wow!! This helped a lot. Keep up the great work! Thank you so much!!
Nice..
Thank you! Cheers! :)
DUDE I HAVE THE SAME KIT AS THE THUMBNAIL
Hahaha that’s awesome! What are the odds of that! I actually really like this art set. It’s better than a lot of other sets you can buy.
whenever looked at your subs i was so shocked u didnt hsve at least1m
Haha thank you for that Niamh. Maybe someday the following will be that big, but who knows. Hope you are well and take care my friend :)
Very smart
I am glad you think so :)
Helpful video! Where did you get the glove ?
Hey Farah, I am so glad you enjoyed this one. Here is the link to the exact drawing glove that I wear. amzn.to/2YxfVeC Hope it helps and take care! :)
@@MesserCreations Thank you :)!
you sound like damon salvatore :)
Hahaha that’s funny 😆
Which is the brand of charcoal pencil ?
Hello, here is the link to the exact same kit that I used in this video. I hope it helps and take care my friend! :) amzn.to/33qP8CQ
Yo too my friend 😅😅
I really appreciate the fact that you took the time to film this video however, I would have liked for you to explain it instead of writing it and talking about it simultaneously. I am very visual and i tend to look at what you are writing instead of what you are saying and it throws me off.
Absolutely, I had a professor once who would write and talk about what he was teaching at the same time and I personally enjoyed that teaching style. Everyone is different, I do have a lot more drawing tutorials where I just talk and draw. Maybe those would be useful for you? Hope they help and thank you for the feedback. Take care 😊
fuck the subtitle, ill do it by myself XDD, brooo love you :D
I just found where to purchase the glove...but thanks anyway
Hope you like it!
Where'd you get the glove ?
Hey Brian, here is the link to the glove I wear, hope this helps :) Art Glove: amzn.to/2pY6qDJ
Woah, I draw both graphite and charcoal in one piece 😂
I do sometimes too. Mostly I just draw with one or the other though.
Btw I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS! ❤
Thank you so much! I really appreciate that 😊
That was stupid. You should definitely mix graphite from 8b to 4b with hard charcoal and the rest are out of the window. They just don’t look right.
Hello Seiya, unfortunately beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder. What looks right to someone, will look completely wrong to another. I appreciate your perspective though, take care!
@@MesserCreations wew i dont think that's got anything to do with the elements in mixture my friend. Try my suggestion, you'll get it.
I know its not easy to admit hehe.
Wow dude too many ads four in 6 minutes? Pass on your channel!!