Which World Tour Team Has The LIGHTEST Bike

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  • čas přidán 10. 06. 2024
  • We've already unveiled this racing season's World Tour bikes, but which is the most superlight bike in the 2024 pro peloton? Alex weighs the pro cycling team bikes and using the raw data calculates how the weight of each bike could affect pro riders' speed and power.
    00:00 Intro
    01:20 EF Education Easy Post
    01:52 Intermarche Wanty
    02:16 Lidl-Trek
    02:23 Visma Lease A Bike
    02:57 Astana Qazaqstan
    03:14 Movistar
    03:57 Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale
    04:08 Bahrain Victorious
    04:29 Arkea- B&B Hotels
    04:49 UAE Team Emirates
    05:24 Ineos Grenadiers
    05:56 Team Confidis
    06:03 Dsm-Firmenich PostNL
    06:32 Jayco Alula
    06:54 Soudal Quick-Step
    07:19 Groupama-FDJ
    07:40 The lightest bike winner
    09:00 Does the weight make a difference to speed?
    13:00 How could you make your bike lighter?
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  • @oliverbridgewood3929
    @oliverbridgewood3929 Před 3 měsíci +7

    UPDATE! A Note from Cannondale - The team bikes reportedly have an average weight of 7.4kg (some are lighter/some are a little heavier). 7.78kg mentioned on screen is for a systemsix, but some imagary depicts an EVO which is actually lighter.

  • @MrMeowNow
    @MrMeowNow Před 4 měsíci +26

    56 cm frame Specialized Allez Sprint 2017 rim break, 7.95 kg… paid about $2000 and loving it!

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 3 měsíci +1

      The Allez spring is a classic bike! Crit racing dream machine 🙌

  • @IainBakerplus
    @IainBakerplus Před 4 měsíci +27

    i'm on a 2023 TCR Advanced SL, with mechanical Dura Ace 9100, rim brakes, Roval CLX 32/50. All in, it's 6.25kg.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Wow! That's one light weight bike 🤯 How does it ride?

    • @jcwu1531
      @jcwu1531 Před 3 měsíci

      Goodness, this sounds like a dream hill climb machine 🤤

    • @canday5947
      @canday5947 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Dream bike man!

  • @vikexp
    @vikexp Před 4 měsíci +38

    16kg with the bike lock, old mtb bike XL size, needed for crappy roads where I'm from. I would absolute love to try a 7kg extremely responsive bike, just the energy difference needed to put my elephant of a bike into motion at a crossing compared to a pro bike would be insane.

    • @bbnflpn
      @bbnflpn Před 4 měsíci

      Just like when I went from my lug frame Dawes to a Cervelo R2. Still got the Dawes!!!! Piss ant roads around here Reynolds 531 drives it like a champ. Weight Weenees at the Fondo may turn the nose up at my R2 but then they see the Dawes at the after ride beer garden I get approval and/or a pass!!! Woman wants a eTap Cube to match her Nissan Cube............hates the long throw to shift gears..............maybe for 50th bday??????

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 3 měsíci +2

      Sounds like a great bike 👌 These lightweight race machines are really something 🙌 Do you think we all need the latest and greatest though? We put this to the test with a willing amateur 👉 czcams.com/video/XLvjUEeT_-w/video.html

    • @vikexp
      @vikexp Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@gcntech most people don't need the latest and greatest, but as for myself, i do want it, just cant afford it.

  • @joostkonijn5851
    @joostkonijn5851 Před 4 měsíci +43

    The alpacine bike on the picture is an ultimate

  • @gcntech
    @gcntech  Před 4 měsíci +8

    Which bike is your favourite? 🪶
    Let us know in the comments 💬

    • @supercoder7
      @supercoder7 Před 4 měsíci

      No factor bike?

    • @troycollett8540
      @troycollett8540 Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@supercoder7 Israel isn’t world tour

    • @supercoder7
      @supercoder7 Před 4 měsíci

      @@troycollett8540 : 👍 thank you

    • @jascollinscork
      @jascollinscork Před 4 měsíci

      10k lightweight wheels 🤔🤔

    • @MichaelWilliams-iv6dj
      @MichaelWilliams-iv6dj Před 4 měsíci +2

      It’s hard to argue that the Scott Foil isn’t the fastest all around bike in the World Tour. Simon Smart aero design and 7.2kg.

  • @greengonzonz
    @greengonzonz Před 4 měsíci +2

    Loved the closing statement ❤.
    Many of us have owned many different types of bikes in our lifetime (so far), but we will remember most fondly the bike/s that brought us the most joy.

  • @paulbr82100
    @paulbr82100 Před 4 měsíci +7

    This makes me feel so good .... just bought a new bike and decided to furnish it with the "lesser/heavier" groupset which only added 312g but saved me €1800 .... I'm OK with that

  • @niceracleous9999
    @niceracleous9999 Před 4 měsíci +29

    I have a dogma f10 rim brake. Aero bike. deep aero wheels, 38cm aero handlebars, wide tyres, and I am still under the 6.8kg limit. So that’s aero and light weight, this is the fasted setup period.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 3 měsíci +2

      Fastest in what setting? 💨

    • @niceracleous9999
      @niceracleous9999 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@gcntech in every setting. At 6.7 kg and full aero setup l believe it’s faster then the new dogma f, this is why I haven’t upgraded, and upgrade in my mind, should be faster then before, so what’s the point in spending £14000

  • @seascape
    @seascape Před 4 měsíci +18

    One caveat: using the same Park Tool scale, I've found that bikes can vary by up to 0.5 kg on successive weighings, due to amount of arm shake, location of the placement of hooks (ideally weight should be evenly distributed on the two arms), wind, and other factors. Spoke with Calvin at Park Tool about this 3 years ago, and he said the best way is to weigh the bike with the scale in a clamp, or if handheld, take averages. He also said that bike weight doesn't really matter that much (unless there's a big difference).

    • @czeckson74
      @czeckson74 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ParkTool scale is SHIITE (would hambini say)

    • @bilwit
      @bilwit Před 4 měsíci +3

      the bikes weighed were also not the same size across all, nor did they have the same wheel depth setup for the same parcours

    • @user-sc4sp6tb2j
      @user-sc4sp6tb2j Před 4 měsíci

      Absolutely, scale needs to be on a fixed platform, not hand held

    • @8rk
      @8rk Před 4 měsíci

      You just gotta hang it with its strap from a very sturdy (i.e. not flexing) place. It's very consistent that way. Even clamping to workstand doesn't work cause with the weight of the bike whole thing flexes.

    • @SpicyTrifongo
      @SpicyTrifongo Před 4 měsíci

      is the pen working @@czeckson74

  • @fernandodisola6675
    @fernandodisola6675 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Colnago v3rs rim brake, tadeg pogacar all time FAVOURITE bike, he won 2 TDF. V4rs too heavy.
    My colnago V3rs rim brake weighs 6.82kgs with ultegra di2 12speed with 2x bottle cages and garmin mount, super responsive and agile.

  • @OnkelHucke
    @OnkelHucke Před 4 měsíci +8

    I bought a topstone 4 alloy (10,6kg) and converted it to GRX 600 with Elite Wheels G45 CS and I am quite happy with the 8.8kg, excluding the pedals and the lights.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 3 měsíci +1

      8.8kg is great! 👌 Especially for a gravel bike that you can throw around!

  • @scchua4203
    @scchua4203 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Please don't be returning to the weight loss at any cost. Back in the late 1980s, I remember when some people were obsessed with reducing the overall weight of the bike. To the point where brake levers were drilled out to such an extent that structural integrity was at a bare minimum. Cranks were thinned and drilled. Frames were denuded of paint and highly polished. Stems (quill stems back then) were drilled out. Seatposts were (judiciously) drilled out. In fact, anything that wasn't important in making the bike go, was drilled out to reduce weight.

  • @user-xe4xd3ki9j
    @user-xe4xd3ki9j Před 4 měsíci +40

    Supersix Evo Black Inc 2016, size 56. 5.7 kg, probably worth less than £2000 in today’s market. I’ll most certainly be keeping it!

    • @user-xe4xd3ki9j
      @user-xe4xd3ki9j Před 4 měsíci +4

      Zero interest in a 8kg £12000 that costs me more time and/or money to maintain! So that’s almost 2.5kg, and yes: 12.5 watts extra up Alpe D’Huez is a lot of extra work that I don’t feel like paying £12k for the privilege of having to gain those extra watts 😂😂😂

    • @the.communist
      @the.communist Před 4 měsíci +7

      Todays bikes are a step backwards

    • @DjDeepfry1
      @DjDeepfry1 Před 4 měsíci +5

      I don’t care how much my bike weighs. The UCI has no power over me.

    • @swe223
      @swe223 Před 4 měsíci +1

      For this weight it's probably with tubulars and not tubeless, am I right? So more like 6kg for it to be comparable.

    • @user-xe4xd3ki9j
      @user-xe4xd3ki9j Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@tt-tk9076 Correct: I am not a pro. But I did ride this bike as a pro 2016-2019, and I have receipts for that 👍

  • @tonictones
    @tonictones Před 4 měsíci +13

    26 seconds is a MASSIVE amount of time over AdH! Even half of that is quite significant. If you're performing at the top level, 4 watts is quite a big deal to add on to your threshold.

    • @HarryFunmaker
      @HarryFunmaker Před 4 měsíci +3

      Exactly. Weird of them do downplay that difference. The Giro was decided by 14 seconds over 3 weeks. The 2024 TDF is going to have more than 50,000 meters of climbing this year. There has to be a balance between weight and aerodynamics.

    • @dominicbritt
      @dominicbritt Před 4 měsíci +6

      …. Yeah but EF would not race up any mountain stage on a System Six.
      This whole video is pointless.
      Teams use different wheel sets for climbing stages….

    • @tonictones
      @tonictones Před 4 měsíci

      @@dominicbritt Indeed, they do change up their equipment obviously, am not sure if the current supersix is currently 6.8kg. Just addressing the point made that weight doesn't make a difference. It certainly does! 4 watts is a solid few weeks of gains when your threshold is over 400 watts.

    • @meibing4912
      @meibing4912 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Aero times are a lot better going downhill, so its not all a loss and aero advantages will also take away some of the the 26 sec going uphill, just as the deeper rims with larger tires may reduce the rolling resistance. You cannot isolate one factor from all others if you want a fair comparison. I don't do the "superman", but I still "outrace" everyone on the steeper descents (>6%) without touching my pedals just by taking an somewhat radical body aero position, with my deep wheels and narrow aero bars (and I'm just a go lucky amateur).

    • @tonictones
      @tonictones Před 3 měsíci

      @@meibing4912 Not a WT pro and would typically not rush the descents and prefer not risking my life, just aiming for climbing KOMs for fun! Be careful out there. Those sound like modifications more than capable to be made on a bike that was manufactured five years ago, while still able to keep the bike at or even below 6.8 kg.

  • @jonasvieth
    @jonasvieth Před 4 měsíci +5

    #askgcntech Alex suggested in that video to switch from a 28mm tire to a 23mm in order to save weight.
    But what about the rolling resistance?
    If I remember correctly Josh from Silca said in one of his videos that a Continental GP5000 compared to GP4000 saves you the same amount of energy on a 10% climb like losing 0,5kg. So weight weenies should also be rolling resistance weenies.
    Would be interesting to know wich tirewith actually is the fastest uphill.

  • @Adub101
    @Adub101 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Good video @gcntech no weight on the new Factor Ostro?

  • @user-ws2jw6wg7f
    @user-ws2jw6wg7f Před 4 měsíci +3

    Excellent episode, makes me feel better about my 2020 Supersix Evo being just under 8Kg 😊 although my specialised crux gravel bike is almost the same weight as some of these bikes 😮😮😮 is all the modern tech worth it past tubeless rims and decent 11 speed gears 😊

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 3 měsíci

      The Supersix is a great looking bike - Aero bikes are becoming a bit heavier but aero can trump weight 💨

  • @christocan4710
    @christocan4710 Před 4 měsíci +1

    6,5 with everything. Pedals, Computermount, Cages, Powermeter. Value approx. 5000 Euro. Rose x-Lite. Few years old. I still like it very much.

  • @Millicente
    @Millicente Před 4 měsíci +9

    12kg alloy bike with alloy wheels and Microshift group set. Only decent part is my specialized power saddle and gp 5000s. Cost me $700 usd new. Does the job but boy do I hate it haha

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Hahaha you don't want to hate your bike, a bike that you love will make you want to ride more - it doesn't need to be super high end just as long as you want to get riding 🙌

  • @stuey90
    @stuey90 Před 4 měsíci +3

    @GCN Surely you’re missing something when they were using the “ Aero trumps weight over a TDF stage” counter argument.
    If they were riding solo or in a small group i tend to agree, but the majority of GC contenders will be in the peloton getting the big draft and even when slightly more exposed when they string it out, they will be nicely tucked middle or back of the of the teammates wheels. Surely the lightest bike with the most aero features they can get away with will seem them unleash the watts saved in the pack when finally exposed on a climbs where aero doesn’t have as much effect.

  • @victorlee4214
    @victorlee4214 Před 4 měsíci +3

    2021 Orbea orca omr size 47 disc. changed most of the stock parts except frameset with aluminium steerer carbon fork weight 7.3kg with 2 bottle cages, computer mount and Speedplay pedal. Total cost 5k usd. Still can be lighter as less than 7kg if I would spend another 3-5k for top end frameset.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 3 měsíci

      Sounds like a great bike! Would you like make the bike lighter again? 🪶

  • @universe-juice
    @universe-juice Před 4 měsíci

    I enjoyed this. Would love to ride each one of them and decide for myself which one is nicest to ride.

  • @rideSYV246
    @rideSYV246 Před 4 měsíci

    Great video! excellent hearing the weights. Too bad the teams are locked into sponsoring heavy components. Seems like they are trying to use what we would, eg. clincher / tubeless vs. tubular, Dura-Ace pedals…

  • @almin9751
    @almin9751 Před 4 měsíci +1

    2021Tarmac SL6 52 with c38s rims, carbon bars, Pzeros w/ tpus tubes, cut fork and seat tubes to the minimum which is exactly my fit😅 aaaaand still with my original 105 11speed weights 7.9 for me who rides just on weekends I see it quite nice and enough😊.
    Also considering when having to change my drive train when worn out and my seat I could still lower it to 7.6 nearbys is more than enough for me

  • @Caaaapri
    @Caaaapri Před 4 měsíci +2

    BMC TeammachineSLR01 One, zipp353 with pedals and bottle cage. Just above 7kg. Size 51

  • @ambotlakokabalo9997
    @ambotlakokabalo9997 Před 4 měsíci +1

    You should make a video about bike/component brands that are not in the worldtour. That would be interesting. To compare the top brands that made the cut and the rest that are good but didn't quite get in.

  • @ianparkes5097
    @ianparkes5097 Před 4 měsíci

    Alloy GT ZR3.0 with 9-speed 105, 9.7kg with pedals, bottle cages and pump bracket. NZ$600, ages ago. Spent a couple of grand on a secondhand 2020 Roubaix three years back but thought handling was too slow on steep, twisty, hilly descents, so sold it again. Prob a mistake but I'm still getting to top of climbs ahead of most of my mates on my GT. It works just fine with 28mm tyres, waxed chain and a 34-tooth cassette so I'm reining in the desire for something enviable. For style points I've got a gleaming trad Columbus ELOS steel bike, handmade in Lombardi, which I built up with alloy Campag. It's heavier but light in spirit.

  • @krishnansrinivasan830
    @krishnansrinivasan830 Před 4 měsíci

    Awesome :)

  • @alexclare4992
    @alexclare4992 Před 4 měsíci

    My bike is an Orbea Orca OMX 2023 fitted with Ultegra 12s Di2. Zipp 404 Firecrest wheels. Zipp Aero SL70 handlebar and in a size 60 weighs in at 7.7kg with pedals, cages and mount. No flashy saddle. also duo power meter pedals from Assioma.

  • @spezi_alex1416
    @spezi_alex1416 Před 4 měsíci +1

    8,2kgs! BMC Roadmachine SLR5 with 105DI2 and Alloy Wheels and tubeless setup. My first proper Road Bike, i love it and all around, it just cost about 3200€ last year

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Oooof sounds like a beauty 👌

  • @robertgray9807
    @robertgray9807 Před 3 měsíci

    My main ride is a Pinarello Dogma F10 in matte black, with full Campagnolo Super Record EPS (non-wireless), Bora 45 WTO with Vittoria N EXT tubeless, Wahoo power pedals, Selle Italia 3d printed saddle....8 kg on the nose.

  • @jeansebastienroy5456
    @jeansebastienroy5456 Před 4 měsíci

    Aethos pro with Alpinist wheels, butyl tubes; 7.2 kg with bottle cages and wahoo mount. Pretty reasonable weight, no aftermarket light parts, and it’s an extraordinary ride. I’ll try tpu tubes next summer, will maybe gain a little more than a hundred grams…

  • @TheOneAndOnlySteppa
    @TheOneAndOnlySteppa Před 3 měsíci

    11kg of city bike! bought it at the beginning of the pandemic to commute rather than riding trains/buses, we became buddies for life. I just did my first 100km ride with it

  • @golfstud88
    @golfstud88 Před 4 měsíci

    Had a thought while riding and wondering if it’s ever been tested. When comparing lighter carbon wheels to a quality but slightly heavier aluminum wheel (same deepness), would the slightly heavier wheel do better in a crosswind? Thinking the slightly heavier weight would be less susceptible to being “pushed” around. Thoughts anyone?

  • @uiroxcv
    @uiroxcv Před 2 měsíci

    @oliver bridgewood do you still have that custom SuperSix? Is it for sale?😅

  • @pennyblue6372
    @pennyblue6372 Před 4 měsíci +1

    my small siced filante slr astana with 50 mm dt swiss wheels weights 7.2 and it is half ultegra and dura ace cranks.

  • @dugldoo
    @dugldoo Před 3 měsíci

    There are so many race day variables at play that trying to rank bike weights is like trying to hit a moving black target on a foggy moonless midnight.

  • @emiliorossi1841
    @emiliorossi1841 Před 4 měsíci

    Twinsix gravel bike that I use as a touring/commuting bike - weighs around 11.5 kg without stuff for work and with a front dynamo hub. More like 13 to 15 kg when commuting with all my stuff.

  • @michaelmiller3002
    @michaelmiller3002 Před 4 měsíci

    Around 13:50 Ollie suggests Speedplay Nano pedals over Shimano Dura-Ace pedals for weight savings. However, it is the pedal *system* (pedals + cleats) weight that matters. I doubt that with a full accounting that Speedplay represent much, if any, weight savings advantage.

  • @SNR20001
    @SNR20001 Před 4 měsíci +8

    But does aero actually matter this much for pros in a peloton? All aero claims are based on a single rider in the wind but when Roglic races the tour he will have at least one rider in front of him almost the entire race. Do you have any data on the effect of an aero bike vs. light weight when sat in draft?

    • @pepijnbruil957
      @pepijnbruil957 Před 4 měsíci

      Aero is still better most off the time but most of gc contenders have a lighter option for mountain stage

  • @Robert-mn8gc
    @Robert-mn8gc Před 3 měsíci

    My SL8 S-WORKS TARMAC complete weighs 6.72 kilos ride away. Includes Carbon Bottle Cages, Computer Mount, Time Xpro 15 Pedals & Titanium Ceramic OSPW Jockey Wheels .
    54cm 40mm wide Roval Rapide Bars & Includes the original Roval Rapide CLX Aero Wheelset 51/60
    with TPU tubes 11/34 cluster Dura Ace Di2 12 Speed Groupset.
    Had my Bike Shop in Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺 remove the Sram Red Groupset. Obviously the frame was in the sensational Red Paint 🎨 Scheme.
    My SL7 S-WORKS 54CM TARMAC same set up weighs 6.83 kilos with FSA VISION ONE METRON Carbon Cockpit.

  • @JesseReko
    @JesseReko Před 4 měsíci +1

    I feel like I could catch a wave on that guys hair 🏄‍♂️

  • @nigel_wadsworth
    @nigel_wadsworth Před 4 měsíci

    I'll let you know the differences shortly. My 13 year old Felt AR4 was written off a month ago after I was hit by a motorist. Its replacement is a Cervelo R5 hopefully arriving next week. The Felt was under 8Kg with HED 60mm wheels. Will be interesting to see what the R5 will be!

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Rest up! We hope you are back to full fitness soon 🙌 - Enjoy the new Cervelo! We would love to see it in the bike vault 👉 gcn.eu/techuploader

  • @MagisterSpectaculi
    @MagisterSpectaculi Před 4 měsíci +2

    Is no one gonna talk about the fact that the Supersix Evo (15k+ bike) weighs in at almost 8kg.
    that‘s insane to me. whats the weight of their heavier bike then?

  • @meibing4912
    @meibing4912 Před 3 měsíci

    As for my bikes I have no clue what any of my bikes have weighed - ever... But I did (do) like riding them all and they have become more and more aero and comfortable as well as faster for sure!

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 3 měsíci

      Weight is fun to get nerdy over but it's not everything, having fun on the bike is the most important thing 🙌

  • @simonwoodthrillerwriter
    @simonwoodthrillerwriter Před 4 měsíci

    I have a 2021 Tarmac SL6 Pro that I bought 2ndhand for $3,000 and weighs 8kg. It doesn't have any special light parts per se just Ultegra componentry and DT Swiss carbon wheels. This is heavier than my old rim brake SL4 which I think was around 7kg. That did have an FSA SL-K carbon crankset which was very light.

  • @loufkinsendit
    @loufkinsendit Před 4 měsíci +4

    7.5kg XL Canyon Endurace rim brake with Ultegra 6800 and alloy hoops. Cost me £1700 8 years ago. Would have to spend at least £8k to get a new bike at that weight these days.

    • @jayobannon5359
      @jayobannon5359 Před 4 měsíci

      I have that bike, good machine

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 3 měsíci

      Great bike! Bikes are getting heavier but does this mean they are slower? 🤨

  • @milandekkers2795
    @milandekkers2795 Před 4 měsíci

    This is surprising. My V4RS with normal Dura Ace and no Carbon TI custom stuff weighs in at 7.00kg flat in a size 510. I’m 180 so not tiny. Also have got an alu deda superbox stem with carbon bar instead of a lighter full one piece option. I also thought the Enve wheels were weighted competitive to the Cadex alternative I have.

  • @brentpoole6880
    @brentpoole6880 Před 3 měsíci

    It's worth noting that all the Specialized teams have access to the Aethos but none of them have used that bike for mountain stages. It would be well under the UCI limit.

  • @nemeanf27
    @nemeanf27 Před 4 měsíci +1

    time for a GCN challenge then, put a model of the same bike from 2014 up against 2024 version, ride at 250 watts on a long enough uphill and see which is quicker

  • @MichaelWilliams-iv6dj
    @MichaelWilliams-iv6dj Před 4 měsíci

    Interesting to compare the watts saved for weight to the Tour Magazine aero data. The S5 and Aeroad are at around 203 watts while bikes like the Tarmac are at about 208 or higher. So the all around bikes never manage to close the aero penalty.
    Other thoughts, this makes the Foil even more impressive. Too bad the new Factor didn’t get weighed.

  • @jayobannon5359
    @jayobannon5359 Před 4 měsíci

    I have a custom built carbon bike that is a dream, light, aero....... Built up a Ti bike with fatter tires this year. Crushed all of my previous KOM's!

  • @belowthehill
    @belowthehill Před 4 měsíci

    9.10 Kg 2020 Specialized Allez Disc Comp Pro with Shimano 105 and Shimano dual SPD/flat pedals. Was $2400 three years ago (w pedals).

  • @michaelnewman4302
    @michaelnewman4302 Před 4 měsíci

    Are we to weigh our bikes with or without bottles? Full bottles? Head units or no?

  • @abrahamvega1660
    @abrahamvega1660 Před 4 měsíci

    Magnificent hair @ollie! How do get them like that?!

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Should we do a barbering episode with Ollie? 💇

  • @brianeberly3279
    @brianeberly3279 Před 4 měsíci

    Maths question for Ollie: On the mountain rides, assuming up and down, if you have a slightly heavier but more aero bike, won't you make up most/some of the lost climbing time by having higher descent speed?

  • @jestag2
    @jestag2 Před 3 měsíci

    3:57 Winning it's second mountain top finish so far this season and one from a break-away beating a Cervelo is proving that the Van Rysel is a value all-rounder.

  • @rossmitchell3296
    @rossmitchell3296 Před 4 měsíci

    Canyon Ultimate CF SLX, Campagnolo Super Record , Bora wheels, 6 years old and 6.2 kg. Progress?

  • @zachrichardson7099
    @zachrichardson7099 Před 4 měsíci

    Do the Jayco riders ever use the tcr in mountain stages?

  • @mipko
    @mipko Před 4 měsíci

    With 12 speed cassette you can easily run 1x setup, Shallower wheels and bit lighter saddle and you are bang on the money

  • @adrianthomas8225
    @adrianthomas8225 Před 4 měsíci +1

    1% drop in weight (800g on 7.5kg bike + 70kg rider) = 26seconds or 4 watts on alp d,huez? Time to go ride up some hills and shift the remaining Christmas weight

  • @maximilian3004
    @maximilian3004 Před 4 měsíci

    my 56 tarmac sl8 was 7.2kg without pedals, bidons or head unit. i "skimped" on the wheels (CLII instead of CLXII), drivetrain (new sram force), and saddle. i imagine you could get to the legal limit if you really tried, and it seems like bora is there or thereabouts. i think the difference between the rapides and the alpinist wheelset is probably the majority of the difference between quickstep and bora.

  • @apolion200384
    @apolion200384 Před 4 měsíci

    Sl6, 58, with everything stock besides the fullcrum wind400 wheels 8,3kg, not bad at all 🙂

  • @lodvaessen
    @lodvaessen Před 4 měsíci

    My bike is around 7,6 kg
    Merida Reacto with 303 firecrest in a size 52. Includes Sram Red AXS and dura ace pedal.

  • @JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe
    @JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe Před 4 měsíci

    Under loving care how long do modern bikes hold up over time ?provided they are riden enough.

  • @ronm2287
    @ronm2287 Před 3 měsíci

    $2.8k USD for a road bike I'm glad to say my Pinarello Paris weighted 8.7kg after only upgrading cheap alternatives of 44 carbon Hunt wheels and a carbon sqlab saddle. While still having the basic stock aluminum bar and stem and an entry level shimano 105 mechanical groupset! Which will be my next upgrades hoping to shave down to 8kg or below. So far $4k well spent I must say!

  • @9biggee
    @9biggee Před 4 měsíci

    Old Trek Madone 5.2 was built from scratch 6.82kg, without pedals. Total build probably cost me around £1000 using a mix of new and secondhand parts.

  • @livibam
    @livibam Před 4 měsíci

    Got a BMC Teammachine SLR_01 with Roval Aplinist CLX II 36mm in a 54 frame: 6.93kg
    Little heavier when I have the deeper DT SWISS 1100 ARC 50mm on

  • @patricklumplecker
    @patricklumplecker Před 4 měsíci

    Factor Ostro VAM 7.6kg size 54 with head unit, bottle cages, sram red etap axs (race setup) 60mm Black Inc Wheels, TPU inner tubes and Pirelli P Zero Classic 28mm

  • @charlesdonly776
    @charlesdonly776 Před 4 měsíci +1

    This is actually quite easy. Bike design optimizes efficient energy transfer. As you go faster, you prioritize aerodynamic loss. First order is rider position and power output (comfort). Riders have become much more athletic from training, fueling etc.. so w/kg has gone up in recent decades and hence the ability to go faster… so bike design prioritizes aero. Climbers are shielded and they are free to ride lite bikes on their team.. the others ride fast.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 3 měsíci

      You make some great points here! Do you think the average rider would benefit from an aero or lightweight bike? 👀

  • @antibejbi
    @antibejbi Před 4 měsíci

    a 2012 Bianchi infinito with carbon Campagnolo and FSA components and shallow-ish 35mm wheels is just around 8.00kg, and I paid 1000€ for a used one 7 years ago, so not too bad :)

  • @pippinc7113
    @pippinc7113 Před 4 měsíci

    8.5 kg steel bike, GRX 2x, aftermarket billet cassette, DT alloy wheels, 9 kg with dirt wheels on. $4000

  • @kubatosik1676
    @kubatosik1676 Před 3 měsíci

    Factor o2 Vam size 54 and disc brakes - 6.5kg with pedals, wahoo mount and bottle cages.

  • @philpdm312
    @philpdm312 Před 2 měsíci

    Planet x Pro Carbon with Sram Hydraulic 7.2KG - Changed wheels to 50mm Carbon with GP5000tyres - Carbon Seat Post, Carbon Saddle, Carbon Bars, Carbon Pedals, Carbon Cages, Size is 50cm

  • @FotoFischkopp
    @FotoFischkopp Před 4 měsíci

    As someone who is roughly the same height as Connor, it would be very interesting tho know the weight of his bikes over the years as compared to smaller riders on the same team for whom the setup/component choices were more likely optimised.

  • @ryansamsky8709
    @ryansamsky8709 Před 4 měsíci

    Built up a 22' Allez Sprint frame for crit racing, just priced it up and got to about $2880 USD. weighs in at 9kg with 105 group, vision crank and 55 wheels, deda stem, and control tech bars. Got all items except for bar and stem either new take off prices or reduced new price though. Felt like an accomplishment as the factory built and tax would be somewhere at $3300 with stock 105 and alloy wheels.

  • @anthonyteo5444
    @anthonyteo5444 Před 4 měsíci

    You guys should do an episode on how to lighten bike weight for us, common folks. The restriction - have to set a realistic cost:savings ratio, e.g cannot be more than 10 US$ per 1W savings or 10 US$ per 250 gm savings. I sure you guys can come up with a better limit.

  • @albertkikstra
    @albertkikstra Před 4 měsíci

    My bike is 7.8 kg, Canyon Aeroad CF8 SRAM Red/ Force mix. $5000US
    Favorite definitely the Cervelo Jumbo lease a bike

  • @jackavle
    @jackavle Před 3 měsíci

    Good to know my bike weighs about the same as Ineos's bike but cost about 1/2 the Pinarello Dogma's price.

  • @jacekkapela6754
    @jacekkapela6754 Před 3 měsíci

    Mine and my son's bikes
    ARC8 Escapee Disc, Ultegra Di2, Mavic 45 mm tubeless wheelset, 8.0 kg
    Specialized Tarmac SL6 Pro rim brake, Ultegra Di2. In the lightest veriosn with 990 grams Chinese tubular wheelset 6.9 kg including pedals, water bottle cages, Garmin sensors, computer mount and powermeter
    Flat racing version on Roval CLX 50 mm tubular wheelset, around 7.2 kg
    My old 2013 Specialized Roubaix SL3 with my alloy Campaq Neutron Ultra wheelset, mix of Campaq parts and triple cransket 7.5 kg without pedals
    Our old Tarmac SL4 Expert on Campaq Chorus mechanical and Zonda wheelset was under 7 kg.
    What we really should have is weights of bike without wheelsets. That would be best starting point for comparisons.

  • @markmueller5081
    @markmueller5081 Před 4 měsíci

    What are the pro crank sizes?

  • @RyonBeachner
    @RyonBeachner Před 4 měsíci

    If the teams have two bikes to choose from, I’d be fine with the Aero bike being a bit heavier, which seems to be the case with Cervelo and Cannondale.

  • @Lacelru
    @Lacelru Před 3 měsíci

    2018 SW Tarmac SL6, mechanical dura ace, EE brakes, aero handlebar, 50mm hunt wheels and including pedals and garmin mount 6.8kg (15lb). Built/updgraded over several years so not sure on exact total $.

  • @deonmcneilly5592
    @deonmcneilly5592 Před 4 měsíci

    My bike is a Elves Falath Evo weight with bottle Cages and pedals 7.8kg , cost £3500 self build with full Axs Red groupset including power meter.

  • @Litespeedultimate
    @Litespeedultimate Před 4 měsíci

    2011 Fondriest TF3, Dura Ace, 48mm Citec CX6000 wheelset - 7,2 kg. Investigate for me how much of a gain an aero frame produces in a TdF stage where almost 200 riders are densly packed in a peloton.

  • @jrh1704
    @jrh1704 Před 4 měsíci

    I love Cannonade bikes, always have. Hate their company/ customer service. But it's pretty wild to think that they are riding a +17lb bike in professional races. Yes I'm american so the Kilo's confuse me and I had to get the google calculator out. Hydraulic disc brakes and electronic group sets sure do take a toll on the weight.

  • @PedroPrego
    @PedroPrego Před 4 měsíci

    A Ineos rider other than g Thomas rode the last stage of the giro 2023 (the uphill tt) without bar tape

  • @alexflorance1111
    @alexflorance1111 Před 4 měsíci

    Does your modelling include the added aero and rolling resistance gains possible on a heavier bike?

    • @alexflorance1111
      @alexflorance1111 Před 4 měsíci

      My bike is 7.7kg, paid £3200 (disc brake)

    • @alexpatonGCN
      @alexpatonGCN Před 4 měsíci

      Hey, no unfortunately not, just looking at weight in isolation, so you could expect some variations here.

  • @thomaspellizzari598
    @thomaspellizzari598 Před 3 měsíci

    Cubes also use the cube litening air

  • @matthiaswuest7271
    @matthiaswuest7271 Před 4 měsíci

    Cool idea and something i would love to see closer to the grand tours, but as is this video feels a bit off the mark. I love tech and i love weight weenie-ism but why go to a race where the bikes are set up for flatter/rolling parcours and compare their projected times up alpe d'huez?
    The nerd in me also wishes you had been more explicit in your adjustment calculations -- what frame size and wheel setup do they represent?

  • @DaanHoogland
    @DaanHoogland Před 4 měsíci

    Old 10 speed Van Nicolas Astraeus, with bel (and tools and bottle gages) 8.9kg. nice to learn in ons a kilo and a half behind

  • @swites
    @swites Před 4 měsíci

    My 56cm bike is 7.6kgs with pedals. Is rim brake mechanical, and cost NZ$2500(40% off on special) but then bought lighter 50mm wheels for ~$1000, new seat, seatpost, new longer stem for around $600. So around NZ$4100 all up => US$2500 give or take.

  • @gigglingchicken8444
    @gigglingchicken8444 Před 3 měsíci

    When I ride with my saddlebags on, it probably weighs around 16 to 18kg.
    Its a gravel commuter bike mixed. I still average around 27kph on tarmac so I am happy with it.

  • @ricardorusso1462
    @ricardorusso1462 Před 3 měsíci

    I find it a bt shocking that pro bikes weigh so much. I managed to build up a BMC SLR (second tier frame) down to 7.5kg (pedals and power meter included) for 4k€. Found a used ultegra groupset and a pair of Speedsix 45 wheels after looking for a few months and managed to surprise my mechanic with how loight the build was. It feels like a lot of teams are not riding the best equipment but really only putting together whatever they can find

  • @benjaminpk
    @benjaminpk Před 4 měsíci

    Hey! Wasn’t this on GCN Italia a while ago?!

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 3 měsíci

      Chicken and the egg 😉

  • @lennartschmidt5385
    @lennartschmidt5385 Před 4 měsíci

    My Alloy Trek Emonda in Size 60 weights about 7,27 kg with Pedals Bottlecages 58 mm Aero Wheels Powemeter and Disc. Brakes.

  • @FGIRAFFE
    @FGIRAFFE Před 3 měsíci

    Lazzaretti 1990's Steel, Campagnalo super record, 2x8, Old Brooks leather saddle : 11,0 kg. Love to go to work with it. Lights, bottle cages and powermeter pedals on. Ah yes, front wheel is now a lightweight Easton from the 2010's.

  • @mikehhhhhhh
    @mikehhhhhhh Před 4 měsíci +7

    SL8 Pro here. Added integrated cockpit and Zipp 353nsw - weighs 7.1kg.

    • @Evaso_CC
      @Evaso_CC Před 4 měsíci +2

      Boat anchor

    • @mikehhhhhhh
      @mikehhhhhhh Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@Evaso_CC nah, it’s a bicycle

    • @JayLato
      @JayLato Před 4 měsíci

      With or without pedals?

    • @mikehhhhhhh
      @mikehhhhhhh Před 4 měsíci

      @@JayLato without pedals, but with cages, computer mount etc.

    • @JayLato
      @JayLato Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@mikehhhhhhhnice similar to my Scott Addict RC

  • @hankbluebullr4661
    @hankbluebullr4661 Před 4 měsíci

    Riding a VanRysel rcr road cf from 2019 rim brakes alloy handlebar and stem, ultegra r8000 7.4kg, inverted got it cause i used to work there for 1300 euros.