SBT90.2 hype train. Is the Astrolux FT03S worth triple price than FT03?
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- čas přidán 20. 01. 2020
- Banggood or Astrolux I want to help find the solution. if you send me a few reflectors I will try them what batch is the best.
Got my astrolux FT03S yesterday and not really impressed by the numbers I got. see video where I found out where is the loss.
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Nice video with good information as always, thanks Zozz. Good job. Keep doing this.
This honest review earned my subscription
Very good detailed video.
I’m wondering if your output levels would’ve been any higher with the Samsung 30T or 40T, 21700 battery?
Thank you.
Thank you for this honest review. After receiving word from Banggood they were unable to ship, rather than wait I have requested a refund. Maybe I'll buy one if they fix these issues.
Zozz - excellent dissection of the FT03S. I hope the people at Astrolux get to see this analysis of the serious shortcomings of their design. If they follow your recommendations, they can get to work on an appropriate reflector (and heavier gauge wire). Cheers!
Subscribed. Thank you for the straight forward video. I bought ft03s yesterday before watching your whole video. I am still ok with the 310kcd at the price I got it for, as it will be my longest throwing light so far. Is disappointing it doesn’t come closer to spec. I may try switching out mcpcb wires like you did. I figure if the K1 gets 420kcd (Hanks claim I trust), then even if this got 400kcd that would be great. Do you think the reflector alone would bring the KCD up another 70-100k? I appreciate all of your input here and on BLF. thanks !
Very good honest in depth reviews.. pls post the final build with the sbt.90.2. 🙄👍
Wiat type battery are used for testing? other tests confirm the specifications.
I am trying to get my head around the sbt-40 v. Sb-90.2. I take it the advantage of the sbt-40 over the xp-l v6 is lower forward voltage means less heat at a given current. I assume it can do 202 lpw, or 384 lumens at my 700 ma, 10 hours work day. I dislike the AMC 7135 lights, because the linear driver just burns off the excess voltage. But, I am not convinced that my buck driver magically converts the voltage to amps either. So, maybe 15 more time before cutting out? Or 15% less heat. Is there a dedomed sbt-40 available. I have ruined about a dozen leds trying to dedomed, never happy with results. I am happy with the xp-l hi. The xp-l and xml sucks in that you need to use a 31 mm driven at 1 watt to get 4000 candela, which is the maximum drive level allowed if you want a single 18650 light to get a full workday. Thus a single AMC 7135 and xp-l hi are necessary for a useful single cell light. However, the AMC 7135 kinda sucks, and you get 70% of promised 10 hours, while the buck Puck 700 offers 92% of the promised 10 hours off 2 s 18650..... I am hoping the 90.2 is just a dedomed sbt-40, but from the looks of the lights, probably not. Isn't the led footprint smaller than the xp-l or xml? Apparently, not.... The tint of the luminous is a step backwards. But maybe cost makes up for it? Unfortunately, my target is 10 hours, 4000 lux, 2s18650 (21700 isn't big enough for a good single cell, and too heavy for a 2 cell wearable).
How would you compare the FT03S sbt90.2 vs. FT03 in sft40 (if offered again)???
Did they ever fix these lights? Did you just happen to get a bad one? I have one and it visibly lights things out to 1300 meters or so. So I think mine is up to spec. Just was wondering what ever happened with your situation.
Good work, thanks, to bad it costs that much more, I like that wider beam and brighter spill but cant justify triple the price with the results you found.
how did you mod the FTO3 with Flat white Osram. is it replacing the led only with pure stock driver????
Driver need modding too because it will kill the white flat
What is the thickest guage wire I could squeeze in there, have 12guage on hand
My 18 gauge wires has only a t8ny clearance left so I don't think even 16 gauge will fit. Maybe if you drill the holes a bit bigger.
Mine not bad. Measured 440Kc with FT03 reflector. I’m happy.
F03s luminus sbt 90.2 hotspot same like f03 xhp50.2?
As you saw it depends on the reflector you got. My XHP50.2 FT03 is dedomed so I can't really tell if a stock version similar. I can't direct compare the two. But from the numbers I saw at other people the stock XHP50.2 need to have a bigger hot spot than SBT90.2.
Hello, due to the language barrier, I don’t understand what the reasons are. What to pay attention to what is wrong FT03S
Should I buy it, or buy wurkkos ts30s
Thank you! I thought my sst40 version was the only one making cracking noises from the lens...is that because it’s cheap glass?? Never had any of my other flashlights do that. Of course I don’t expect a lot from astrolux. The built in charger on mine doesn’t work consistently and have had other issues with Astrolux flashlights. But hey...their inexpensive as hell..so....
mine makes the same noises
My xhp version does not do that. I have the sst40 ft03 coming in as well as the ft03s coming in. Hope it doesn’t make those noises, or at least if it does make them it doesn’t effect the glass? Water seal? Cracking noise seems bad from glass? Also, I have about 4 astrolux now and I really like them, although I’m not that knowledgeable of internals and what justifies price and quality. I know (so far) they’ve been as reliable as my emisars/ noctigons.. maybe long term is different story. Of course with the amount of lights I have I don’t use any one more then a couple hours a month except my edc
it's not the glass, it's thermal expansion and it cracks when parts expands at different rate.the charger will not charge if the battery is over 4/4,1V maybe it's the case
Love that color blue I have to get this I'm tired of black and green I want something different beautiful color 🤩💝
could someone help me.
I have the astrolux ft03, I'm using a sofirn 26650 mah, 25a, discharge battery. My question is, this battery can use all the power of the flashlight?
dude. the astrolux is a FET device maxing out @8.5-9A of output at its peak discharge, your battery is more than capable of reaching 2400lumens (sst40 version), or even higher at ideal conditions. im assuming youre using the HD 5000mAh 26650 sofirn battery, yes?
Hello! What driver are you going to use in MF02? You said lexels driver, but how did you modify it? And please make a video of MF02 with SBT90.2. Best wishes from Finland.
I am using a tesxas avenger based fet+1+some 7135 driver which basicallí made for MF01. But same driver cavity so it fit. It is designed for 8.4V so I need to replace a few parts to work with 4.2V. I definietly make a video of that. Currently have to make the MF01 mini video and Brinyte SR8 and 2 convoys. Thank you!
Hello my friend sorry for my bad english 😊🙏, im test reflector ft03s to ft03 sst40 dedome, and the result is very focused light compared to the original reflector but I don't know how much the intensity of the light maybe 300k-350k CD 😊
Hello, what's the best battery for this flashlight ...? Greetings Steffi
Maybe Samsung 40T 21700 but you loose a lot on long led wires too.
interesting video about the different quality of reflectors in one and the same model. Looks like one better orders two extra reflectors, once you buy a new torch.
I want to get one, but I'm confused when it comes to drivers..... I rather have an XHP 35 HI but it's not available..... Do you recommend the SST40 or the SST 50 ?
Have you check if the shelf under led was flat?Greetings
It was flat
I ordered two extra reflectors for FT03S. I have Sst40 and XHP 50.2.. both excellent.. ft03s even brighter..One had a spiral machine line faintly slanted with the cone revolution. BG..The other I swapped out and didn’t see a difference other than if that sbt90.2 is not sitting just right. The hotspot which is tight but immediately around the hotspot is a sloppy smear of light in a weird off center mandala. I used one of the new reflectors and best I could do to center the hotspot with a secondary N,S,E,W, pattern from the huge square LED. My observation. Screwing the whole cap assembly together and moonlight the sbt.. shake and twist till you get a uniform pattern..
Which version is "the other version" that's you said "its' like a laser"? Can you do a video how you mod to achieve that "laser" beam?
I think he said "osram"
Hey bro, here I answer your question after a year by different account😅,
That led was "Osram KW CSLNM1.TG"
With about ~850lumens achieving ~500000candela in ft03 host.
It requires about 4 amps.
With a faulty muggle mode, bad calibration out of the box and 100m short of the throw claim, I'd personally go with the FT03.
I suggest your 21700 is past it's best, very high capacity or fake. It should make way more than 100 lumens more than a 26650!!!! I get 4100 lumens with a 26650 as you do but with a Samsung 40T I get over 5000
Liitokala 26650's aren't that bad. And I get over 20A with this 21700 in other lights. And it is not used much. Few mobths old and it had less than 10 charging cycles. Never was under 3.5V But to make sure I will get a few 30T.
I know I’m a tad late here but for anyone researching this FT03S as I am , I just want to add that I got a hold of a couple Samsung 40T 21700’s per Flashoholics advice for both my FT03 SST40 and XHP50 versions and could immediately tell my SST40 version was much brighter and am pretty sure the XHP50 version is a little brighter but need to do some further checking. Ordered them from “18650 Battery Store “ for only $14 for 2. Going to order a third for my FT03S that is currently on its way 😁. Thanks Flashoholics for the tip.
@@krapeevids6992 I just ordered the flashlight and I got the same batteries you did and from the same place @ 5.50$ each. I cant wait to use this thing.
What type of osram diode you Use?
That LED sure was a laser!
Haven't received mine yet. Kinda worried now.
I subscribed, maybe someday I will try modifying a flashlight to make it brighter. Know nothing about it
Finally just received mine from Banggood which took a whole damn month to get here in Arizona, USA . Why does it take so long????
Anyways, I’m actually very happy with it so far. It is definitely brighter than my other two FT03 flashlights, the XHP50 and the SST40 versions. It’s basically a scaled down version of my AceBeam K95 although I’m sure other Flashoholics would disagree with that comment.
Is it worth the $139 they’re asking? I certainly didn’t think so which is why I searched around for other videos here on CZcams that were reviewing it and offering links for discounts. Got mine for $94 which I think is a fair price for it.
Jeffy Bean thank you for your feedback. I have the xhp50 version and really like it. I bought ft03s last night on sale and after finishing this video had mixed feelings. Meaning 310kcd seems fine for me, still better then my xhp version, but was worried real world application wouldn’t be that much more noticeable in improvement then xhp version. Glad to hear you are happy with yours gives me hope I’ll enjoy it without too many modifications as I’m relatively new to this hobby. Cheers man
Astrolux ft03s is the same Mateminco Mt90 mini flashlight or not?
Yes they are the same.
@@ZozzlightsRC I saw on Aliexpress Astrolux ft03s for 900 reais while Mateminco mt90 mini for 615 reais. Why will it be a big difference if they are the same?
Aliexpress prices vary so much depending on the seller. I usually find something a good price and I can find same thing for triple price also 😄
I noticed that the xhp50.2 and this new sbt.2 have the same die size.
Mine has been dedomed.
How to dedome xhp 50.2 with clearly
Astrolux (Mateminco) sure cut a lot of corners with the FT03S, yikes. For such an expensive light this is not excusable. Guess gotta keep the profits high huh.
I want to see the mod in the fto2 with the 90.2 PLEASE
Glad i didnt order one. I believe this led needs a bigger host anyway. Did you make a topic on blf?
You're very very good love your video 🙂📸😎🙂🖐️🎸
5:37 this 13,5 volt ?
No. Amps
You should use longer testing fields. It would be better for us to understand the beam performance
Szervusz.Nagyon jol megoldottad..Nekem is volt eszembe ha levenném azt a cseppenetet az xhp50.2 ledrol akkor a kerulete csokken igy négyzetmilimeterre atszamitva nagyobb lesz a leljesitmenye es messzebb fog vilagitani ,mar majdnem olyan lessz mint az sbt90.2 Csak mivan ha megsértem a ledet ..Mar csinaltam ilyet még xm l leddel de volt mikor nemsikerult..
XHP50.2-nél elég macerás mert én a széléről a felesleges sárga részt is leszedem és 3 vezeték is van a leden.
Would be curious to see compared to Fireflies E07x Pro.
I don't have any Fireflies currently
Szia, jó lett , biztos sokkal jobb de szinte ennyiért akciósan megtudod venni a manker mk35 II , a régit meg még olcsóbban, a 2.0 - nak meg van 6k lm és 2km throw-ja!
What benefit do you get from dedoming the 70.2? Why would you dedome it? Excellent video Thank you for all the info and the time you took to make it.
Thank you! If you look az my google tables with my measurements and look at BLF GT70 numbers you can see I lost a few lumens from 8160 to 7760 lumens but gained a lot in the intensity. It jumped from 516 kcd to 1008 kcd so almost doubled it. The trow jumped from 1437 to 2008 m.
And as an extra benefit as I making the XHP70.2 dedoming I remove the yellow edge around the diodes I get rid of ugly yellow corona of the beam. Watch my XHP70.2 dedoming video for more info.
czcams.com/video/QVJSDJFqC8I/video.html
@@ZozzlightsRC I knew there had to be a reason. That's good to know Thank you for the reply. I love LEDs and flashlights have always enjoyed tinkering with them and playing with them Love the info you gave me I'm going to try to dedome one of my 70.2 flash lights see if it gives me further throw for that awesome laser effect 😎 Thank you
It is easy to kill the led while dedoming so be careful!
@@ZozzlightsRC Thank you for the input I managed to get it off rather easily it just took time and was very tedious as long as you're careful I ended up getting the LED hot and it pretty much just popped off lol😂. Might not be the best way or the safest for the LED or prolonging the life of the LED but it seemed to have worked good enough haha. Definitely made a difference with how far the beam was throwing That's for sure it's kind of crazy I never would have thought that that would do something like that. Hey I wanted to ask you I didn't see much info on that OSRAM LED, what is it? what is the wattage of it and the info for it? I would really like to get one cuz that LED is a laser haha. Thank you for all the help and the videos and the replies keep up the good work I appreciate you and your content Thank you!!
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Спасибо за полезное видео из России. Скажите, пожалуйста: 1) Какую оценку Вы поставите этому фонарю за качество изготовления из 10? 2) Какие фонари на Ваш взгляд имеют высшее качество изготовления? Назовите несколько фирм и моделей.
Great video, sorry for disappointment...
But if you like to sell that blue FT03 with one of your dedomed xhp 50.2 I will gladly take it :)
I have a Hungary delivery address.
We can talk about it. Please give banggood or astrolux a few week if they respond or send me test reflectors and after that we can talk about it. Remind me a month later please! I will forget it maybe :)
@@ZozzlightsRC ok, sure, I will remind you :)
Write me an email to zozzlights@gmail.com if you interested in the dedomed XHP50.2 FT03S
Bloody hell I've already ordered 1 from banggood cost me £109 last week the blue 1 like you have
Cancel it. I paid £65 and even I'm not happy. I mean it's OK but they need to fix the issues which they said they will do for the second batch. Next time you order ask for a code here budgetlightforum.com/node/70094
Hope you didn't cancel, got mine and it works fine.... definitely better than old version. A better "distance" video would show this. I have 120 acres with creek and a pond 300 meters from my back door. I can light up anything on the banks at night with SBT90.2 and not at all with sst-40.
@@michaelhammond7115 no I'm still waiting for it since December the funny thing is they had 30% off in February for it so ordered it again from banggood and got that 1 within 2 weeks and yes it is great and I have a 40T Samsung battery in it 💥👍
@@MRGOOPY123 sorry bout that....who knows? I saw a video of a mail room in China mid January and they had huge stacks of mail they were trying to sort and get out. The virus had the whole country in lockdown for 2 months. Bet your box is sitting there waiting to be uncovered and sent to next part of destination....just a guess. Good luck though, I will say, don't buy cheap generic batteries.
@@michaelhammond7115 Where did you get it from?? Link? Is there much difference with the sst40 version?
Either your camera's WB is off or that is one hella green tint. Yikes, not good.
On the table inside video I did not set up very much the camera if you mentioning that part.
egyet vetem de meg az eross/high modot se tartsa 5 perczig se!
The XHP is close enough to the SBT90.2 that it makes the SBT90.2 unnecessary. Save the money.
Sbt90 in MF02👍
Or… 18 in an MF01👍👍😅
That soldering job looks like the sloppy ones I do but that should not be the case for something you pay for. But coming from Astrolux I’m not that surprised. This is why they are so inexpensive compared to something from Fenix for example. And I know Fenix doesn’t make monster throwers like Acebeam or Imalent but I don’t recall having reliability issues with them as often as I do with the previously mentioned ones.
To answer the thread title, No. Terrible heat management, literally shuts down after a short turbo
Vártam az 1km-es tesztet!
Már a videó készítése után szétszedtem és azóta is led nélkül hever. Nem lesz megint összerakva SBT90-el. Sajnálom. Az 1 km a gyári béna reflektorával éppen csak alulról volt meg szemre. Még ha mérve tudja is. De lesz majd MF02 építve ezzel a leddel. Illetve az régen kész. Azt hasonlítom majd manker MK35-II-vel és dedómolt GT70-el. De az a videó nem tudom mikor jön ki. Astrolux pedig elhintette, hogy lesz MF02 is SBT90.2 leddel. Ha van olyan jó mint amit építettem akkor azt már merem ajánlani de amíg ki nem próbálom a gyárit nem biztos.
No vale la pena pagar el extra, parece que no supera claramente al xhp50,en la vida real
3x cost is too much, i prefer buy xhp50.2 is good enought for real uses, and i a want cheap and the best throw buy the sst40-w version of the ft03
I couldn’t resist for just a 100 with a good code. The ft03$ series regardless of overinflated numbers. You have a longer more powerful throw than the SST40 and a longer more powerful throw similar to the width of beam and hotspot of XHP50. The SBT90.2 and anduril features is a step up from the ft03 if you have the geech. I’ve one on the way. Deodoming etc and risking ruining the diode modding for more candela on cheaper units, meh.
Just ordered one today for 88$ USD.. hope by now they dont have issues.
@@ballpenkennjohn3129 Do you have any issues? i'm considering buying it too..
your using a crap battery get a samsung 30T in it lights it up 2 . 6300 lumens
Are you measured that lumens? I measured 5830 lumens with this led and 4x samsung 18650 30Q in parallel.