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  • čas přidán 14. 05. 2019
  • The debate was hosted by Oxford University Forum on 6th May 2019. The topic debated was "Does Islam explain reality better than Atheism?" and the arguments made were powerful, passionate and intense. Al-hamdulillah, the truth of Islam was demonstrated to be not only the best explanation of reality but the only explanation of reality that makes sense with what we can observe. On the other side, the Atheist's denial of God meant that they couldn't provide an ultimate explanation of reality without falling into self-contradictions.
    The speakers were me (S.A.L.A.M Initiative), Abdullah al Andalusi (Muslim Debate Initiative) debating against Atheist speakers, Alex O’Connor, an international speaker and popular CZcamsr “Cosmic Skeptic”, and writer for the New Humanist Journal, and Psychiatrist, Dr Colin Brewer.
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Komentáře • 585

  • @pabedam5808
    @pabedam5808 Před 5 lety +50850

    Am a Atheist man live in Washington. To be frankly speaking,Islam make sense and I will start reading the Quran. Muslim people please pray for me 🙏

  • @hidayaamani2904
    @hidayaamani2904 Před 5 lety +10757

    “The truth has come and falsehood has vanished. Indeed, falsehood is bound to vanish.” Qur'an (17:81)

  • @S.Mir786
    @S.Mir786 Před 5 lety +9664

    The old fella is thinking ‘What have I got myself into here’ 😀

  • @Gainmaker1
    @Gainmaker1 Před 5 lety +6358

    I'm a Christian and i believe Mohammed won this debate

  • @amyc.513
    @amyc.513 Před 5 lety +11447

    These guys are so much better than every Christian I've ever listened to

  • @oneel3859
    @oneel3859 Před 5 lety +8823

    Assalamu Alaikum. The greatest thing that ever happened to me was being an ex anti theist atheist. I turned against God at 10 but Alhamdulillah I found him. Love from Botswana

  • @reza_3q
    @reza_3q Před 5 lety +8889

    I knew it he will bring Aisha R.A to the debate....

  • @cecilguyton
    @cecilguyton Před 5 lety +6473

    The believer should be strong and confident when debating atheists. However, be careful from being so proud because pride can kill your faith and make you loose debates.

  • @K0edYouWithMyWords13
    @K0edYouWithMyWords13 Před 5 lety +7743

    Mohammed, as a muslim I agree with you. But you should realize that your passion sometimes can put people off from the (true) points you are raising. You should keep in mind that your ability to convince is affected by whether people find you sympathetic or not. People tend to believe people they find sympathetic. When you put up a performance like this, it in part negates your convincability. Al andalusi did a better job in this regard.

  • @30251
    @30251 Před 5 lety +4332

    They did the old man dirty...he had no idea what was going on the entire time

  • @aali1992
    @aali1992 Před 5 lety +5233

    46:00 As an atheist, he said "peace be upon him" after the mention of prophet Muhammad 😂 Lol I know he was only reading off a sheet of paper, but it's still somewhat funnily odd to hear from a non believer

  • @matmirza5376
    @matmirza5376 Před 3 lety +2335

    1,3 Mil views
    669 comments
    Hold up!

  • @chabakbou
    @chabakbou Před 5 lety +4436

    That professor is retired for real

  • @AliGgamer
    @AliGgamer Před 5 lety +1232

    This debate was awesome. Alex genuinely seems like an intelligent guy and Inshallah Allah guides him to Islam one day as he would make for a great dawi!

  • @Redd-Haired
    @Redd-Haired Před 5 lety +2855

    Legend has it that the old man's still waiting for answering his "already answered" question.

  • @urbanwaters296
    @urbanwaters296 Před 5 lety +4375

    I love how their sitting in height order 🤣

  • @moeabdul8728
    @moeabdul8728 Před 5 lety +543

    Cant believe the athiest just said 'it's good to know the truth but it's better to be happy' . Wowww. Even if deep inside they believed Islam was the truth they will still reject it

  • @nikhilrewar1057
    @nikhilrewar1057 Před 4 lety +2306

    Are you still deleting comments?

  • @turkishhman45
    @turkishhman45 Před 5 lety +3185

    To understand their debate. You have to watch the video more than once. 😂🤣

  • @sALah1550
    @sALah1550 Před 5 lety +886

    I love how bro Abdullah after each point referred back to the beautiful Names of Allah. Very eloquent and profound

  • @TheChefCain
    @TheChefCain Před 5 lety +3030

    Here from Alex’s channel. Great discussion and I appreciate the civility

  • @endriiitselita3772
    @endriiitselita3772 Před 5 lety +509

    I can say that the ideology of Islam will have to be of interest to atheists now as the strongest debaters and claims are coming from Islam due to the rise of Muslims in the west alhamduliah, this is one the first times i have actually seen atheists stuck and the theists end as the dominating side, once they will actually delve into Islam it will be interesting how their minds will change.
    Great argument,responses and research
    Allahu Akbar (God is the greatest)

  • @soumayyahrahmtullah9563
    @soumayyahrahmtullah9563 Před 5 lety +3395

    First comment. Ramadan Mubarak to all muslims

  • @newmin8705
    @newmin8705 Před 5 lety +2280

    I haven't watched that yet but I know it's gonna taste like an intellectual piece of chocolate cake. Ramadhan moubarak from Algeria.

  • @alih3408
    @alih3408 Před 5 lety +2222

    TAKBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER

  • @hussainapplications4355
    @hussainapplications4355 Před 5 lety +588

    Brother Mohammed Hijab, I watched your debate with David Wood.......You really are blessed with great knowledge by Allah.....ALHAMDULILLAH.....Keep up the good work brother.May Allah protect you and give you highest place in Jannah

  • @wolfganghumboldt4830
    @wolfganghumboldt4830 Před 4 lety +1047

    I am an atheist and still disagree with them about the subject, but Abdullah and Mohammed defend the theist worldview better than anyone. I have to challenge my thoughts harder when listening to them than when listening to any other theist defend theism.

  • @mattdiaz9648
    @mattdiaz9648 Před 5 lety +717

    As a Christian, that old man is extremely unprepared and unintelligent. When he asked "Who created God?" I was like.... Seriously?! Even I could have answered that question, lol

  • @farisfuad4679
    @farisfuad4679 Před 5 lety +1250

    “You are not special” lets that sink slowwly

  • @s.al-hindi4774
    @s.al-hindi4774 Před 5 lety +2076

    Assalaamu aleykum Mohammed, just a constructive criticism: I think you should be less hasty to interject because the conversation is less constructive if you don't let them make their point.
    Good debate otherwise, may Allah bless you guys and guide us all

  • @ohiduddin911
    @ohiduddin911 Před 5 lety +1402

    *_that old dude should have known it’s an academic debate_*

  • @vizier87
    @vizier87 Před 5 lety +863

    Here are my thoughts, from the left:
    1. Dr Colin: Shouldn't be there. He clearly has no grasp of basic philosophy, let alone quite an advanced set like Mr Alex and the rest. His insistence on "Whether we know God commanded" question can't possibly be answered without a discourse, which the session is unequipped for. This is the reason Mr Al-Andalusi seemed evasive; it was a waste of time to entertain his questions for it to branch out into more irrelevant pursuits. I was pretty much letting his voice drawl while doing something else until Alex or Al-Andalusi speaks up.
    2. Alex O'Connor: Honestly a likable atheist. His arguments were quite on par since he was up to date with Kalam cosmology though he may not grasp it completely. What I was a tad bit disappointed with was with his pitch of Quran 4:34, it is a red herring and again, requires a discourse of multiple angles. However his assertion on points of morality not being answered deserves another look. Honestly, I'd had to grapple with some of the concepts he brought up, and will continue studying them for better understanding of his arguments.
    3. Mr Hijab: Not much to say since he was the crowd puller, and I understood his points pretty ok. As people have pointed out, he has to learn to tether his passion and not interject every time Alex says something. I'd say I'm a bit let down, but otherwise he made his points stand.
    4. Mr Al-Andalusi: Impeccable and polite, enough said.
    I'd say the crowd winners are Alex and Al-Andalusi. As for the debate, I don't think there's any need to claim winning anything here. Have a great Ramadhan, all!

  • @pashtun8025
    @pashtun8025 Před 5 lety +1891

    Or were they created by nothing, or were they the creators [of themselves]?

  • @josephyossef1061
    @josephyossef1061 Před 5 lety +392

    Allah said in the Quran :
    "(77) Does man not consider that We created him from a [mere] sperm-drop - then at once he is a clear adversary?
    (78) And he presents for Us an example and forgets his [own] creation. He says, "Who will give life to bones while they are disintegrated?"
    (79) Say, "He will give them life who produced them the first time; and He is, of all creation, Knowing."
    (80) [It is] He who made for you from the green tree, fire, and then from it you ignite.
    (81) Is not He who created the heavens and the earth Able to create the likes of them? Yes, [it is so]; and He is the Knowing Creator.
    (82) His command is only when He intends a thing that He says to it, "Be," and it is.
    (83) So exalted is He in whose hand is the realm of all things, and to Him you will be returned."
    Soura Yassin.

  • @Hussletheamtrix
    @Hussletheamtrix Před 5 lety +977

    The Atheist grandpa talks every time hoping only to portray himself smarter than others but fails to understand that his talk is nowhere relevant to the topic being discussed. that his lack of being able to listen to others. I guess he is there for free water.

  • @rkt2583
    @rkt2583 Před 3 lety +794

    come on Hijab. don't be so aggressive. let him speak. you are only allowed to be aggressive against David Wood only because we can't stand Wood.

  • @lidaaletap2646
    @lidaaletap2646 Před 5 lety +3107

    1:20:31 lmao look at Hijab and Abdullah

  • @dhdowlad
    @dhdowlad Před 5 lety +260

    The conclusion of Atheism is I DON'T KNOW!

  • @prorepair1263
    @prorepair1263 Před 5 lety +1089

    hold on hold on.. hold on hold on...

  • @TehDwelleR
    @TehDwelleR Před 5 lety +902

    I love that regardless of their differences they shake hands and smile it off

  • @aliriaz3654
    @aliriaz3654 Před 5 lety +1093

    “Wait a minutes. What did you say?” 😂😂😂

  • @ousballajobe8444
    @ousballajobe8444 Před 5 lety +264

    The old man is very gentle. He ask if his time was finish n wanted to leave the podium

  • @abdulfatah48
    @abdulfatah48 Před 5 lety +383

    I feel weird when I see an atheis ( like Alex and others) talks about isuues for example women in Islam, Aisha's (R.A.A) marriage etc, wait a minute??
    Are these issues will help you to prove that there is no necessary being exist? What about if we justify and clear up ur misconception about these issues will you believe that there is a God exists??

  • @MrMatchboxman
    @MrMatchboxman Před 5 lety +1525

    That grumpy old dude was bringing the athiest side down. Lol

  • @SaltyTofu
    @SaltyTofu Před 5 lety +359

    Debate starts at 1:50

  • @Iunnnooo
    @Iunnnooo Před 5 lety +406

    The old man ironically isn't ripe for this discussion. He couldn't keep up throughout.

  • @shahauddin5253
    @shahauddin5253 Před 5 lety +799

    I feel sorry for colin..what the hell was he doing in this debate? It was like having a fly weight boxer against heavy weights

  • @skybond4
    @skybond4 Před 5 lety +442

    Everyone sat in height order

  • @brolytard4life441
    @brolytard4life441 Před 4 lety +410

    Please let Cosmetic Atheist upload the full video.

  • @erwinsmith5381
    @erwinsmith5381 Před 5 lety +490

    My iq too low for this

  • @mukailarafiu2718
    @mukailarafiu2718 Před 5 lety +646

    What a debate! Bro Mohammed Hijad, i want to be like you, please share some knowledge with me. HUGS FROM GHANA.

  • @NurulHuda-ky3hz
    @NurulHuda-ky3hz Před 5 lety +526

    Muhammad Hijab, I recently knew you. The first thing about you i learnt from the debate with David. Alhamdulillah, MashaaAullaah, you are a very intelligent guy. May Allah protect you and choice you putting Barakah in your life. Ameen.

  • @HexagonSyndicate
    @HexagonSyndicate Před 5 lety +561

    When it’s prayer time:
    Mohammad Hijab: Time to worship the one and only necessary existent and show gratitude,
    Everyone else: ...

  • @beastminded
    @beastminded Před 5 lety +545

    Save your Brain cells-----skip when u see old guy talking.

  • @ahsanjawad8819
    @ahsanjawad8819 Před 5 lety +131

    Bro Hijab
    I think if you’d be a bit more gentle to this young boy, he’d be able to understand in a batter manner/sense!
    I feel he has light inside him. I feel he is some1 who is ready to accept things if he gets answers

  • @iad3832
    @iad3832 Před 5 lety +305

    who is the moderator? he did not have control of the panelists.

  • @faanster
    @faanster Před 5 lety +595

    Br Suboor should have been one of the speakers also,

  • @Yaheiy
    @Yaheiy Před 5 lety +774

    Yesterday I commented on your video where you debated a Christian, saying that you should debate an Atheist like Alex O'Connor. It's so weird that you actually did (I'm an Atheist too btw)

  • @fazeelalaher6250
    @fazeelalaher6250 Před 5 lety +638

    Going to watch after taraweeh in shaa Allaah
    Great work brothers in Islam

  • @lnfernalGamingYT
    @lnfernalGamingYT Před 5 lety +386

    That old guy did not belong in the debate he asked a question even though it was already answered lol

  • @mekhrinisokholmuratova7591
    @mekhrinisokholmuratova7591 Před 5 lety +623

    What an Amazing debating!!! I read all the comments and got more faith to my religion, and he did honestly great job!!! Thanks you Mohammad Hijab!!!

  • @kreativechild
    @kreativechild Před 5 lety +198

    this was amazing, and its funny how it turned into a back and forth like that lol

  • @kiki_eq
    @kiki_eq Před 5 lety +586

    Ramadan Mubarak, may Allah bless the speakers and lead them on the right path. ❤

  • @newscore4964
    @newscore4964 Před 5 lety +572

    1:02:34
    Legend has it, the old man is still waiting for an answer to his question

  • @healthymaners1334
    @healthymaners1334 Před 3 lety +425

    I'm Moroccan and hearing the old man saying that a taxi driver, that studied in britain, was talking about Judas dying on the cross is a lie.
    Taxi drivers in Morocco are poor people, they work for taxi owners. Only a rich person can afford teaching his children outside of Morocco and especially in Britain. Just to say that delusional granpa was using deceptive arguments based on dreams he had instead of real facts. I was hoping to see at least someone close to Alex. It would of made this debate more interesting as it already is.

  • @jamesrodriguez9042
    @jamesrodriguez9042 Před 5 lety +157

    Mohamed hijab is a very knowledgeable and intelligent man MashAllah they way he quotes books out of nowhere just amazing

  • @alimalikashraf7623
    @alimalikashraf7623 Před 5 lety +78

    How can the atheist say more than half way through the debate, "you havent answered, who made God", Allahuakber, it's like he was blocking his ears for the whole debate 😂😂😂

  • @openminded472
    @openminded472 Před 5 lety +475

    Couldn't believe it - Abdullah and Hijab together - is fangirling halal?

  • @pessimistkai5569
    @pessimistkai5569 Před 5 lety +690

    i want alex vs hijab once more

  • @lalalala7512
    @lalalala7512 Před 4 lety +462

    Most people comment here dont understand physics and logic ..

  • @AKA1MAN
    @AKA1MAN Před 5 lety +162

    جزاك الله خيراً أخ محمد وأخ عبدالله على هذا الابداع والاقناع والحجة البالغة ما شاء الله تبارك الله
    وفقكم الله

  • @Dude-eu5ce
    @Dude-eu5ce Před 5 lety +792

    Brother Hijab need a longer tie like Donald Trump 😂😂

  • @fahad055
    @fahad055 Před 5 lety +34

    jazakom Allah khair brothers Muhammad and Abdullah .

  • @Ach-raf-
    @Ach-raf- Před 5 lety +98

    The way mohammed hijab spoke in this debate is much better than in previous debates. He spoke slower and that made him more authoritative and gripping to listen to. He got so much better. Amazing! Thank you to Alandalussi and Hijab

  • @zainkhan5692
    @zainkhan5692 Před 5 lety +613

    Did the old guy make one good point or did he make a plethora of laughable comments

  • @bilalyahya3128
    @bilalyahya3128 Před 5 lety +68

    Alhamdulillah, after a long long wait. JazakAllah bro Muhammad Hijaab and Abdullah Andlusi, may Allah bless you with higher rewards.

  • @bigsam5588
    @bigsam5588 Před 5 lety +270

    Hijab killed 2 birds with 1 stone

  • @user-eq2re6df4v
    @user-eq2re6df4v Před 4 lety +659

    So you do monitor the comments mohamed

  • @ryanreynolds7199
    @ryanreynolds7199 Před 5 lety +190

    Poor performance by this two Atheist. As a Christian i can say Muslim won this Debate. And there wasnt any necessary To bring Trinity

  • @fatixa6792
    @fatixa6792 Před 3 lety +312

    36:36 "they're trying to silence people like me" bruh you're public speaking before an entire audience at oxford,

  • @sheharyarkhan2384
    @sheharyarkhan2384 Před 5 lety +342

    Alhamdullilah the wait was worth it. May Allah Keep you humble but confident as always. Made me so proud when I heard brother Abdullah speak, What a fine gentleman.

  • @Max-jf5vu
    @Max-jf5vu Před 5 lety +161

    A fascinating debate. Passionate but civil. Thanks for your participation and uploading of this video (even though I wasn't convinced of your assertions)!

  • @HamidSain
    @HamidSain Před 5 lety +376

    when on earth do Islam prohibit research on itself?

  • @johnbon7633
    @johnbon7633 Před 5 lety +100

    In his opening statements this Alex O’Connor guy kept making active claims while saying he doesn’t claim anything. He recognises he has never observed nothing or claim that it can even exist but makes claim it can create something. Then he brings in emotions by asking people to judge a set of moral standards through their subjective set of moral values and apparently that is proof of something.
    He is covering his lack of rational proofs by ignorance and emotions.

  • @ajax1618
    @ajax1618 Před 5 lety +405

    1:20:30 ...that fist bump😅 U both really did a great job in this debate, may Allah bless you.

  • @zerotollorence1991
    @zerotollorence1991 Před 5 lety +153

    We are not in speakers corner? What a low blow!!! Mashallah moh you are so intelligent lol i laughed through this video because he really thought that p and q was going to confuse u yet u come with an answer with pure confidents hahaha.. amazing work guys!! So intresting and iv learned so much. May allah bless u both.

  • @xJubei
    @xJubei Před 5 lety +630

    1:20:30 - pssst,
    1:20:32 - *fist bump*

  • @uzyjewlz
    @uzyjewlz Před 5 lety +249

    That old man really has no clue

  • @GringoleboZebulon
    @GringoleboZebulon Před 5 lety +255

    Much respect to both Br. Mohammad Hijab and Abdullah Al Andalusi! Spot on, may Allah protect you and the dawah men/women out there.

  • @saddamsaeed3904
    @saddamsaeed3904 Před 5 lety +10

    Thank you for the Video......

  • @aryankhan8075
    @aryankhan8075 Před 5 lety +337

    First comment love from Afghanistan 🇦🇫
    Now I’m going to watch it then I’ll come to comment again ..to share my views 😊

  • @JulaGnieber
    @JulaGnieber Před 5 lety +475

    Daaaaaaamn bro, beards do come in handy after all!

  • @AAA-vf2qr
    @AAA-vf2qr Před 5 lety +406

    55:38 dude on the left is stoned out of his mind lmao

  • @reza_3q
    @reza_3q Před 5 lety +211

    At last !! Thank you brother...keep up the great work.

  • @Icemissa
    @Icemissa Před 5 lety +226

    "Guys, guys, it's descending into chaos." 1hr 14m 😂😂😂

  • @lalaluv093
    @lalaluv093 Před 5 lety +61

    1:45 oooh I saw that hesitance from Alex when he started clapping and nobody joined until a couple seconds later. I was about to start cringing so bad

  • @Robert-fe4uf
    @Robert-fe4uf Před 5 lety +291

    Can you set up a debate with Alex o Connor again. 👍👍✌️

  • @cassh6430
    @cassh6430 Před 5 lety +31

    spot on allahumma baarik. well done !!

  • @_gammingsultan7162
    @_gammingsultan7162 Před 5 lety +46

    جزك الله خيرا اخى محمد

  • @lanialost1320
    @lanialost1320 Před 5 lety +117

    I didn't actually hear the 2 atheists describe what atheism is about, because they were both more focussed on spouting the usual tirades against Islam, and against our beloved Prophet, by "quoting" from al-Qur'an (out of context, and in English), and rounding it off by "quoting" some unknown Hadith. In any case, atheism is vague and evasive, and they just make things up as they go along.