How to make and use pickling solution (Cleaning metals)
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- I get a lot of questions when it comes to pickling solution so I’m making this video to explain and teach you just about everything you need to know about it and how to use it.
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I get a lot of questions when it comes to pickling solution so I’m making this video to explain and teach you just about everything you need to know about it and how to use it.
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Thanks for this. I use a product called Ph Down (swimming pool chemical - sodium bisulphate) that I get from a Home D for about $10. Apparently it’s the active component in Sparex, but at a fraction of the price.
That's awesome and great info to share. I'm going to pin your comment so other can see it. :)
Nice tip!! Thanks!! Slap
my tits, it sure is sodium bisulphate! I'll check that out. I wonder if it's even cheaper at walmart. It's a pool chemical, right? They have pool chems in summer. I will look! ;-)
Is sodium bisulphate the ONLY ingredient in sparex?? If so I’m goin to Home Depot right now! Lol
How do you mix ph down. What ratio? And do you also just keep that in a crock pot?
Friggin awesome man thanks so much! I'm out of pickle and not wanting to buy more (cuz I'm broke atm) and I have a pool that is broken in my yard from a previous hurricane but I've got left over chemicals that I wanted to get rid of 😆 now I know how to get rid of some of it
Good information, nice job. As my journey begins making the transition from a retired machinist to newbe jeweler, there is a lot to learn. I do bring my tool making, engineering and chemistry experience with me. It's going to be a interesting journey. Thank you for all the videos, the skills you share, these how to and look out for inclusive to the trade skills are a reflection of a confident and talented jeweler. You are doing a great job teaching. Cheers!
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Dear GomeowCreations, or anyone else who can answer this question for me, it would be very much appreciated: what if I were to use steel tweezers to retrieve my silver or gold from the salt and vinegar pickling solution? Will that contaminate it and/or the piece of jewelry that I’m working on?
Can someone please help me out with this question?? Thank you!!!
Also, I just want to say, great video GomeowCreations!!! It was extremely well spoken and informational. I had no idea how easy it was to create a pickling solution with such simple household items!!
Also what temperature should I set the hot pot to?
I've been watching all your videos because I'm self teaching myself to become a jeweler and your videos are super helpful and we're actually both in the same town how do I email you !
Well thank you and that's awesome, you can email me at gomeowcreations@gmail.com
Thanks! It's looking more and more possible to create my own jewelry studio
I was just randomly looking up on how to Solder, when The instructor kept referring to the pickle or the pickling and to not mix any other metal other than copper tools to remove your silver from the pickling for it will contaminated it. 😱 Ohh Noo I thought, but what the heck IS Pickling. Hey don’t make fun of me but up until my late 30s I found out that a 🥒 Cucumber in vinegar actually made a pickle. 💁🏼♀️ so when I heard them say pickling I automatically thought of vinegar but wasn’t sure until I came across your post. Thank you Very much for confirming my thought that vinegar and a whole bunch of stuff is what pickling is. However, ruining my crockpot ? THATS a whole Nother discussion. 🤨🤔😬🙃😎
Just buy a small cheap $10-20 crockpot for it. Also you can put silver or copper in the same mix with no problems. It's when you get steel into that mix that it's a problem. The steel will make a chemical reaction happen and plate everything in copper. This is why you use copper tongs to take anything out of the pickling solution. 😊👍
@@GomeowCreations right on 🥳 Thanx for clearing that up for me and making this Pickling thing even more clearer for me. 😋🌸🍃
No problem. I have a lot of other videos you might also like that just show how to make jewelry so feel free to check them out and ask any questions on those videos of you need help.
Thank you! I just found your channel and your content is amazing!
Very useful and thank you. My question is: If I heat the vinegar and salt for a faster clean, will it damage an enamel roasting tin? I need sth this size (30 x 30 cm) for my copperwork?Can I use stainless steel or aluminium? Also, is it injurious to health when heated? Thanks again.
Thank you, very informative and easy to understand for us beginners. 🙃
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Frikken perfect. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks from Colville, Randy. Glad I've subscribed
Happy to help 👍😁
Cheers for that - will give the vinegar/salt a go with a set of 3 Russian wedding rings :)
Seems simple enough to begin right now !
I loved your video also love to learn about zinc and stuf, but i have a question after soldering how long do i need to put my gold or silver in the acid for example if i use vitrex how many minutes to stay and what to look for to understand its ready to go out of the acid bath
Very helpful, thanks for the link to this video.
No problem 😁 👍
Hi, thanks for the video, I wanted to buy some pickle powder and the jewellery supplier wanted $50kg plus shipping $15, after searching I found out it can be brought from the local hardware store sold as dry pool acid or sodium bisulphate for only $15 for 3kg
That is a lot of money for pickle and I'm happy you found some for cheaper. You can also use salt and white vinegar if you wanted to 😁👍
@@GomeowCreations I melt scrap gold jewellery and a fair bit of borax, I'll try the vinegar and salt one time, thanks for your reply
@@GomeowCreations i use a large potato to melt it in, I find it works better for me compared to graphite, I find the bar can get stuck in the graphite sometimes
Does this vinegar and salt solution still need ventilation, like being next to a vent or window? Or is it safe to just be around mostly as long as the top is on? I was looking up sparex also, but is this more natural? thank you
Ooh, this is a good video for me. THANK YOU!
You're very welcome!
Thank you. Going to try the vinegar and salt
Cool, let me know how it works for you.
GomeowCreations worked good on my head pins, thanks!
This is kind of a long one. Sorry.
That's a very very cool tidbit about removing copper plating from brass! I'll try it with bronze and let you know how it works. I haven't worked with brass in years. Or bronze for that matter, but have some now. Hell, I haven't worked with any of this stuff since like 1985.
My very serious question about Sparex: I'm working in my really little studio apartment & I have a small crock pot that I use for pickle. As Sparex is an acid, will the steam escaping the crock pot do damage to the wooden cupboards? I mean, if you know. I don't know whether the steam carries the acid or not. I made a circle out of a wash cloth, embedded it with baking soda and I keep on the top of the lid of the crock pot with some over hang just to maybe neutralize the acid in the steam. Shit. I should get some special paper to see if it reacts with the steam. I honestly have no clue here so anything you can add would be really helpful, and I would be grateful. I never took chemistry!
Also want to ask if one can simply add baking soda to the Sparex until it is completely neutralized (very foamy-Idid it once, but my pickle's filthy and I need to change it!) and then dump it in the toilet or down the drain.
I bought some fiber glass screen and cut a pot sized circle then threaded a piece of copper wire through the edge for my crock pot. I also made a little handle from copper wire so I can pick it up to get little pieces off the bottom of the pot. Works pretty good and the temp doesn't affect it. Not so sure about having the copper in there all the time though. That's probably why it gets so dirty. Black bottom pot.
Jeez. I use my pickle for food all the time. I wonder if that's why all of my teeth disintegrated and I have indigestion after I cook with it. ;-) teehee.
Is there a benefit to using a commercial solution vs vinegar and salt?
Yes, it lasts lot longer. All you really have to do with it is add water. The vinegar will not last as long and become weaker over time and you will have to add more vinegar.
What if im making a piece with gemstone beads and brass jump rings how do i polish it after soldering the jump rings it do i just use the pro olish pads
Same goes for stainless steel jump rings how do I polish it after I solder it
brother how can I create a solution for electropolishing gold at home, which acid to use, I would appreciate your help since I live in Cuba and there are few resources, my respects, good videos
So sadly I don't know when it comes to gold or silver and you might not be able to do that at home. If you can get your hands on the gold solution itself, that would be a different story. I wish I could be of more help, sorry 😓
How often should I dispose of the vinegar salt pickle solution??
Same with the neutralizing solution and the etching solution, just making sure I’m doing things safely!
what things can i use to replace a crockpot ? and how warm does it need to get? , could i avoid using a pickling solution by sanding/drummer
thanks ol great one
You can us it cold if you want it just takes a lot longer. You can use a hot plate to heat up your pickle too.
You can sand stuff off but you really should just use the pickle to do this.
@@GomeowCreations thanks for the info
I have been using Sparex 2 with a baking soda bath to neutralize. I understand that I can save my pickle solution for a long time, but what about my baking-soda water? During Covid lockdown, we’re reducing trips to the grocery store. I’m out of baking soda, but still have the soda/water mixture I used 4 days ago. Will it still neutralize the pickle on my sterling pieces after pickling, or is it dead?
what temperature do you set your crock pot in when you do your pickling, is it particular per or the same for all metals? love this video, randy, very informative👍👍
I normally just keep it on low for everything. It doesn't seem to matter what temperature it is really as long as it warm/hot it works fine on everything I throw into it. 😁👍
thanks! i'm going to attempt a simple rustic copper ring with a stone to compliment my copper band so been studying a couple of your videos haha goodluck to me!😌😜
Best of like and let me know how it turns out. Also don't cut your finger on the metal like I did in the video haha. 🙃
oh yeah-i caught that haha you shd be careful! i will try my best not to cut myself either...will let you if how it turns out😝
I'm working on a paid course right now but from the sounds of it your not going to need this course haha. It's going to show in detail how to make a couple different rings. I will be working on some other paid and free videos.
Hi! I've recently gotten into silver soldering and have started soldering at home. I have the pickling solution from rio grande, and now am wondering about what temp to keep my small croc pot at. Do you know if its ok to turn the croc pot on/off and reuse the pickling solution? Will it matter if I only turn it on when I want to pickle something? Love this video too!
Yeah just turn it on as needed. I normally turn it on high when I first start working so by time I need to use it it warm. If it starts to boil just turn it down to warm or low.
You can use pickle over an over again.
@@GomeowCreations Wow thanks so much for the quick response!! You ROCK!
Love this Randy, thank you!
Thank you :)
Thank you very much for the information
No problem 😊 and. If you have any questions in the future just let me know 😊
Thanks for good video. So much info
No problem. 😄
Great info thank you! Should you pickle gold FILLED metal when you're done soldering?
Yeah you can do that the clean them up
Good question 🤔.
what if you don't have a crock pot can you just heat up the vinegar and pour it into a container and then add the salt?
Yeah you can do that 😄
Great information, thank you,.....can you explain what is meant by a tumbler for making and cleaning metal pieces....thank you...TheFinder
Can you point me to the part of the video that I said that? 😄
thanks for the vid, its very helpful. how long is ok for brass to be in the pickle solution? 10min?
10mins should be fine just don't leave it in for hours on end haha
That was super helpful!
I'm happy that you found it helpful 😁👍
How can you get copper off your silver. ? Sometimes my silver comes out of the pickle with a slight copper look.
That sounds like fire scale or some copper plating. First make sure you have no steel in your pickle. To get this copper look off you can used the hydrogen and vinegar set up to remove the copper from the outer layer of the silver. You can also sand or buff it off if needed.
Thank you for your very informative videos! 🙂
If I'm going to use the vinegar pickle, will I have to dispose of it the same way as the Sparex pickle?
The vinegar will get copper in it just like the Sparex so you will want to get rid of it the right way. 😁👍
@@GomeowCreations thank you ☺️
does the vinegar pickling solution also need to be disposed of at a hazardous waste disposal, or is that just for the other one?
It does. That is making it hazardous is the suspended copper in the liquid. If you let it all dry out it will be safe to through out as normal
What temperature do you recommend?
Ik its been awhile but I just got into jewelry making. If I don't have a croc pot is there anything I could use in the meantime?
what temp must your crock pot be at, will a baby bottle heating pot work?
I just have it set to low. Acid work better/faster when hot so if the bottle heater can make it warmer than room temp it would be better than nothing. If you do use that make sure you use something that is not going to react with the acid and something you will never use with food again. 😄👍
Spareks is sol NO2 right?
so using this making such a mixture by adding H2O to HNO3 Is created. Nitric acid in pot ?
The fumes of such a solution are not very healthy.
If nitric acid is formed from this after mixing with Sparex No2 with water then then it mąke sense as a safe form of storing dry acid.
That junk is not junk. Get yourself one platinum electrode. and a plate or ring you wish to plate in copper. And apply electricity. This will clear up the copper, from the solution.
Note: Getting the polarity wrong will only coat the platinum in copper, so switch. * Oxygen and hydrogen are made during this process, so do so in a well ventilated spot. or you could go bang.
What about Using citric acid?
You can
It would be nice to click on a button and turn this background noise off! That kind of noise is probably used in the Guantanamo Bay!
Otherwise, the video would be very good! Thank you.
This is an older video so I was still learning how and then to use music in my videos 😅
THANK YOU !!!!!!!!
Maybe a dumb question, but if the purpose of the pickling is to make sure the surface is clean of any oxidation before soldering, then would pickling still be necessary for pieces that were just sanded?
You can sand it if you want but at some point your are going to have to pickle your work to lean off the flux
@@GomeowCreations Ohhh, gotcha! I've only been cold working my stuff so far, and your channel has inspired me to try out soldering soon. I'm putting together a list of stuff to buy now and your channel has been a huge asset. Thanks!
Can I use wooden chopsticks in my pickle? I’ve been using them for years but I guess never asked if that was ok?
Yeah that would also work
Hi Randy, i did something wrong I think......i did some silver soldering, the pickled it......then a few days later i used the same pickle solution for copper, and the copper turned green, so getting in touch as you might know why this happened? Also when i did the copper one, i'd forgot about the baking soda step, and just left the copper piece to dry, and overnight it went very very green! like it was growing on it, did it go green because i didnt do the baking soda step? i accidently used metal , steel tongs once in the pickle....did that effect it also?
Yeah, you did something wrong haha but it's ok.
1. don't use steel in the pickle unless you want everything to be copper plated.
2. You have to clean it off of it will turn green if you let it air dry, you can just use water for the most part but you want the acids and salts off the the metal of it will "rust"
3. You can just clean the metal again using a brush and put it back into the hot pickle again for like 10-15 mins and it should clean it up just make sure to clean the acids off of it.
Try that out and let me know if it fixes things.
You have to use distilled water tap water chlorine will do this
Daft question but will this work cold or at room temperature, as I don’t have room for the croc pot , just room for a jar ?
I’m a newbie, so I’m still learning
Cheers Simon
Yes it will but a lot slower. Look for a cheap mug warmer and but you jar on it to keep it hot 😁👍
i've also seen baby bottle warmers
Hello does the salt need to be iodized salt or not iodized?
It hasn't mattered to me 😅
Hi, I often hear that you shouldn't use a crock with metal, but I notice you do (and what I have available, but I'm worried about used it) have you ever had issues with contamination because of it?
I have had not problems with it other than cracking the container one time by putting l large piece of red hot silver into it.
Just make sure you only use it for metals and don't get any steel into it. Also never use it to cook food again
@@GomeowCreations Why not steel?
Hi, is there a specific temperature you try to get?
Do you still use baking soda in water after the pickling solution #2
What do you mean?
Do you still have to use the baking soda and water with the second pickling solution you talk about?
Yes. 😁
I made a mistake and left my pickle pot on over night. The solution is almost dried out. Help. What can I do to fix this?
I did the same thing over the weekend. You can just add water to it and heat it back up and see if you can mix it back up.
Is there a stainless safe pickle you recommend?
If I choose to use pool chemicals, I.e., muriatic acid, what would the ratio of water to acid be?
Sorry about the late reply, sadly I have never used that for my pickle 😅
The pH lowering solution is Sodium bisulfate not muriatic acid.
Is this like wink? Is this process good for anodization?
Sorry if this question has already been asked, but how do you pickle steel?
I don't know. I don't work with steel and if you do put steel into this kind of pick it will rust and become copper plated if the pickle has been used.
How many cups of vinegar do I put?
Wil reticulation work ass good with this kind of pickle? :)
Do you mean like a tumbler? If so, no. this is an acid that is cleaning off the glasses flux along with the oxidation. Also this is all don't minutes and not hours like a tumbler.
what is the temperature you need??
Hot? I just turn it up to high and back down to low once it heats up.
What temperature do you get the solution to?
Hot lol I just set the pot to high to get it hot and then turn it to low to keep it warm
can i use this to pickle sterling silver
Yes you can. 😁👍
vinegar and salt become a hazardous product? or was it just the Sparex?
Anything with suspended copper solids in it is considered hazardous material
@@GomeowCreations thank you for this. I did not know.
Hello, I speak Portuguese and I would like you to speak a little slowly so I can get the translation please