MVP: The Fall of Bellinger and Yelich
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Cody Bellinger and Christian Yelich dueled for the 2019 NL MVP award just a few years ago. Now, they're both mediocre players struggling to live up to their massive expectations. How did they get so good? Why did they fall so far?
Check out Tieran's Twitter, his Bellinger article helped me out a ton: Tieran711
Video Soundtrack: • What Happened to Cody ...
MVP: Belli and Yeli 0:00
The Rise of Yeli 2:00
The Rise of Belli 6:43
A Game of MVP 8:38
The Fall of Yeli 9:18
The Fall of Belli 12:00
My guy Vinny was Yelich's first fan btw - Sport
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It looks like they both were stealing signs before. They are not the same hitters. Almost as bad as Chris Davis
I see what u did with the super sluggers music😂
Drugs obviously
Man, for a 15-minute video there sure are a lot of commercials. And if it wasn't enough, you have a commercial that you read personally! I've watched full documentaries that had the same amount of commercials. I'm talkin full-length hour-and-a-half documentaries. And then you come down to the comments section and there's even commercials down here!? Sorry dude that's too many, I'm out.
Of course it is because this is a shit channel.
Belli's swing is like Tim Lincicum's delivery. It's beautiful, explosive and violent. But as soon as any injury creeps into those mechanics, they fall apart.
That’s honestly a great comp
Yea blame it on the injuries 🤣 bellinger can't hit without stealing a sign... after 2019 he couldn't hit... the dodgers let him go because he can't hit without someone relaying the signs 🤣 cody even has the record of most strikeouts in the world series 🙄 stop with the injuries excuse 🤣
@@bryantchavira4857 he always struck out a lot. And his swing changed drastically during his fall off.
@@bryantchavira4857 You think he was good because he stole signs 😂 you can’t be a MVP because you stole some signs. You must hate the dodgers with a take like that. I do agree whatever happened can not all be blamed on injuries.
@Jeff Jones what has he done after the Crack down on signs???
Update as of August 3rd 2023: Both players have rebounded and are having excellent 2023 seasons.
And THAT'S Baseball
The "415 to right field" then cutting to Yelich grounding into a double play made me laugh more than I should have
Yelich, from August 2018 to August 2019, was unlike anything we'd seen in a long time. He literally carried the Brewers to the playoffs in 2018 with numbers similar to Carl Yastrzemski's famous run to close the 1967 season, and he had a 154-game stretch during those two seasons where he was putting up hitting numbers similar to Babe Ruth's 1921 season, considered arguably THE GREATEST offensive season ever.
I mean he was literally going to get the triple crown in 2019 if he wasn’t injured he was nuts
I'll have to investigate your claims myself
The 2019 numbers are eye-popping...until you consider the offensive environment in 2019. Everyone hit a ton of homers in 2019. Harper's 2015 season was better than Yelich's 2019 season by OPS+.
Steroids
Brewers faking yelich injuries.... so 3 yrs of not being able to hit since mlb started cracking down on sign stealing after 2019 🤔 blame it on the injuries huh? 🙄
I really hope both of them come back and have solid careers
Yelich is already 10 years into his career. There is no "coming back and having a solid career" unless he plays for another 10+ years. Going by MLB avg, his career is almost over.
just witnessed a yelli belli masterclass
Probably not Yelich
He's going to be 32 soon, that is the age when most players start their decline
@@J.C.....no HES back
2019 was such an insane season that I feel it skewed our opinions on so many players. Now that the offense has died out a bit we can start to see the guys who might have had some inflated numbers
Brett Gardner out-homered Aaron Judge, what a time to be alive
@@AndThatsBaseball well thats because Judge was injured for a good chunk of the games compared to Gardner
I checked out on baseball for the most part besides video games after high school-- what was different about 2019 that made em all hit better?
@@gforce97 shhhhhh don't disrupt my narrativeball
@@1WrongOne Balls were juiced that year. A lot of mediocre hitters looked a lot better than they were (check the 2019 Yankees lineup for examples)
Thank you for mentioning the Tieran article. No one ever talks about the fibula injury he suffered in Oakland. The article's main premise is that Bellinger basically got into bad habits at the plate to compensate for all the pain he was feeling in that area, which I believe is a very sound theory. Once someone starts practicing these "comfort" habits, it's very difficult to stop.
Bellinger's swing mechanics were always a bit of a wild card. His swing is made up of so many moving parts that we Dodger fans knew (even before 2021) when even just one part of his swing was off, it could make him look like the worst hitter in baseball. When he was on however, we all knew what he was capable of.
A lot of people point to 2019 and how he was supposedly so "bad" in the second half, but come on, do you honestly expect him to hit .431 and put up a 1.398 OPS for the entire year? That's just ridiculous. His lowest OPS came in September when he had an .891 OPS, which is still a top 10 hitter in the game. He had a .917 OPS in the second half, which again, still top 10. He kept his strikeouts in check every month as well as posting high walk totals to go along with it, and never stopped hitting for power. I'll take that hitter 10/10 times.
I think a big part of it too, like the mechanical, is the mental side of things as well. I remember when he went into Spring Training 2.0 in 2020, he had a new swing and was talking about wanting to be better than his 2019 finish. And I remember thinking, "Why?" He had a good thing going, and if ain't broke, why fix it? That swing had a bit of a hitch as he separated his right shoulder from his left, and he would eventually abandon it after the first few weeks. But he was always tinkering, and I believe part of it was because he started to believe the media and misguided fans saying he was so terrible in the second half of 2019.
Fast forward three years later, and he's still trying to recapture that 1st half 2019. And I honestly think that's just never going to be attainable anymore. Belli should take a hard look in the mirror and realize the present player he is today, and work off of that. I believe there's still at least decent potential with the bat, and there were always reports of him working hard in the cage at Dodger Stadium, even this past November, when let's face it, everyone knew he'd be non-tendered and he didn't have to. He's been equally one of my most frustrating players to watch, yet also one of my most favorite, because of the work ethic. I believe in Chicago, a team that isn't expected to compete to the level of the Dodgers in 2023, he'll have the free range to really find himself. If he can get that OPS to even the .750-.775 range, he's an all-star with that defense and that base running. Hopefully, we do get to see him in Seattle next year at the midsummer's classic
hoping we can see an update on this since they’re both awesome in 2023
definitely
This video aged like milk
I watched Yelich come to Milwaukee and almost immediately go on a historic tear where he was damn near unstoppable for almost 2 full seasons. Even seeing it in person, it was hard to believe how good he was. Then he fouled one off his kneecap in Miami and it was like the spell was broken. Still a solid player but not remotely the same. Seeing such drastically different versions of the same player, with no in between, has been jarring. I still half expect him to break out at any moment which is kind of dumb. Its been 3 years. I almost feel bad for this multimillionaire athlete.
The wait may be over my friend. He looks great so far
I actually remember seeing something about how yelich actually had a 2022 season very similar to his young Miami self. Contact with hard hits and not as many homers. I hope he makes a comeback because he was fun to watch when he was tearing the league up.
Yeah, I was kinda shocked at how similar his 2022 batted ball data was to his 2017 season. He's gonna need to add at least some of his power back because he doesn't have the same speed and defense he did in Miami
If he does start hitting again. I want the Cubs to go to AL in exchange for the White Sox. We might win a division there
He'll make a comeback once mlb let's teams to steal signs again 🤣 what's the point of hitting the ball hard if it's an out ? 🤣
As someone who has had a lot of injuries in my life it is very hard to come back from some of them and regain that carefree feeling you used to have before you got hurt cause its always in the back of your mind..
Another great one, man.
Not sure if Bellinger will be good for the Cubs, but I certainly hope for a Yelich' renaissance. Cheers to every baseball fan 🍻🍻
Im happy he proved u wrong. He’s been senstational
Cooking popcorn as we speak.
No your not
Hope to see your channel blow up soon. Quality content, keep up the grind
Great video, great content! Top notch stuff…big days are ahead for your channel.
Rooting for them both!! Good vid!!
How do you not have more subs? Stellar baseball content during a the time of year its needed most.
I know, right? It's like Foolish Baseball meets Dorktown, but with slightly less polish
@@dominicpancella3012 so true
first video i’ve seen from this channel, and i’ve got a new favorite baseball youtuber. awesome commentary, great graphics, impeccable music taste. keep it up bro
Glad to have you!
Same here. Nicely done (and great use of the music from DK Country)
Bro the animations and editing on this video is top tier holy shit🔥🔥🔥
Fantastic analysis. Great work.
Enjoyed ur content. I appreciate the music u included in the background, good addition 👍
Unrelated but i love how you threw in the GTA 4 theme in the background, felt like I was going through my childhood again
Edit: and Mario Sluggers too!
Great vid, man. Those subs will come. Great stuff!
I loved the music choices in the video. and the way you synced his stats and swings to the beat at 5:25 was cool
Very good video!! Can see how hard you work bro keep it up
Man this is really informative, peak sports journalism, mainstream sports channels have nothing on you.
I was teammates with Christian yelich in HS at Westlake in Thousand Oaks ca and man dude was a stud from day 1 freshman yr and one of the best guys u can know. Sucks to see the digression in his game but still serviceable. I’ve had conversations with him about his game he still got it just gotta keep grinding. Yelich is someone who can find it again
How big was he as a freshman? Height?
@@fletcherbrown9584 same height but frame was a lot smaller he was skinny bones yelich lol but still raked
@@mcee1993 I have a young son…I’m always curious about how good they are as freshman. So, you aren’t surprised by his success? Are there any HS videos on CZcams?
@@fletcherbrown9584 my freshmen year at Westlake was my first year there I just moved from Oxnard ca a couple cities over I was going to be the starting 1b at the original school I was supposed to go to I was probably the best 1b in my area tbh I was pretty darn good I played college ball d1 for a year but when I showed up to Westlake Ada new kid I saw yelich taking BP and new I wasn’t gonna start right away so I switched positions lol
@@fletcherbrown9584 I knew how good he was gone be day 1 it’s just one of those things that you have to see for yourself to just know how good someone is..
If you can make varsity by sophomore yr and dominate at the hs level is usually a good sign of future success not always the case but if you want to be seen and notice you got to be a starter by sophomore yr and now days club baseball and all these extra camps etc that they have always makes competition better.. in the early 2000s we didn’t have that kind of level of club ball etc wasn’t available .. so hopefully your kid goes to a good school that gets good recognition
This video has aged worse than my parents marriage
As a Brewers fan I know many fans still love Yelich, I still root for the guy, but I always tell people, I just want to see 2018 Yelich again
These are great videos. Thanks.
Great video. Very informative 😎
Nah the Mario super sluggers theme being used was a MAJOR throwback. Such a good game, imma fire up the Wii this weekend
A big fan of Yelich’s game since his marlins days. I feel like that freak injury really derailed his career a bit. I wouldn’t count out either of them from bouncing back
I will always love Cody. Wish him well. It was a good run in Dodger blue
Came back to this to celebrate (hopefully not too early) bellinger having a really good comeback year with the cubs. I hope he can keep it up and yelich can get some higher launch angles.
Yelich has been going crazy the last few weeks. Now too. But he tweaked his back
That ad read had the right amount of cheesy baseball facts.
I also think that Yelich's batting approach was catered perfectly to the juiced ball, and he maximized effectiveness with it.
It would be awesome if Cody and CY had bounce back seasons since they’re both in the NL Central now it would be fun watching them go toe to toe all summer.
As a Cardinals fan I disagree Lol
You can't have a bounce back season if it's been 3 seasons without a bounce back.... cody and yelich took advantage of the sign stealing....since then what have they done???
imagine if boras had allowed bellinger to accept a long term extension early in his career. better yet … imagine if yelich had hired boras and chosen to bet on himself and wait out until free agency 😬
Solid Channel, keep it up man
This is a fantastic video.
As a Cubs fan I’m excited to see what Belli can do. I think he’s got a lot more gas in his tank. He’s still pretty young.
I hope he gets back in form with the Cubs, as a Dodgers fan I feel like the organization gave up on Belli too soon and I hope he shows them it was a mistake to let him walk.
as a dodger fan, one of the best defensive outfielders youll ever have
@@joelo7135 He’s slated to be our first baseman. I heard he was a better outfielder, so I guess we will see?
@@JohannGambolputty22 he’s an incredible CF, it’s the only reason he was never benched. His defense was so good it was still better with his terrible offense for him to be out there defensively. He’s so fast and covers so much ground out there with a solid arm
@@JohannGambolputty22 his lack of offence doesn’t justify him playing first base. u need to be producing offensively at the levels of freddie freeman, matt olson or pete alonso for him to play first base. he doesn’t do that. if I had to play him, I’d stick him at centre field. his bat is below average nowadays … yet his elite defence at centre field can justify him manning that position while hitting 8th in the lineup.
As a Cubs fan, I hope Cody can be even 75% of the players he was in that stretch with the Dodgers. He'd be the steal of the century for my Cubs.
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man i really want to see them succeed. I miss that 2019 mvp race
Part of my hope as a Brewer supporter is that Jesse Winker awakes in Yelich The Edge that has been missing since Ryan Braun left. Got to get a little nasty sometimes to reawaken the Beast. Ironic that you mention 2011. And no I do not think Yeli was juicing. Great video!
Love the graphs. I don't know baseball. I know random names but you did a good job explaining something I wouldn't really know
This means a lot to me. I’ve worked hard to make my videos accessible, and sometimes I forget how much more of a nerd I am for this stuff than my viewers, so I’m really happy you feel that way
“Let’s start with 415 to right fiel- GROUND BALL TO SECOND” 😂😂😂 did yelich dirty with that edit bruh I’m dead
And now the both of them are having comeback seasons. Belli is currently hitting .298 with 8 HRs atm
Must’ve seen this video and realized what they needed to fix (not really Yelich still hits the ball into the ground and bellinger still doesn’t hit the ball hard but they’re doing other aspects of the game as good as ever)
@AndThatsBaseball oh wow thanks for reply hehehehe... I don't know much about baseball sorry I'm from New Zealand but fot Belli it must be making contact at lot more often and striking out a lot less.
This is a great video. You should have more than 15k subs
Don’t worry I’ll be at 50k by year’s end
Great video, kept me from playing Zelda for 20 minutes which shows how interesting the video was
4:08 you’re a legend for including Mario Super Sluggers music in here a true man of culture
Dude you did the best sponsor ad I’ve seen in a CZcams video
That’s why they pay me the big bucks
Who’s here when Belli cooking with the cubs
belli is my favorite player and i believe he will always be. i hope he has an amazing year and finds away back to the dodgers
I don’t know the full details behind Correa’s failed physicals, but seeing these sharp declines following injuries puts his Free Agency debacle in a new perspective for me. I never realized how much an injury could affect someone’s career in the long term based on swing mechanics and offensive aggressiveness. Giants and Mets must suspect something with Carlos that we’ll see develop over the next few seasons.
It’s definitely worrying for this very reason. If teams think Correa is due for a serious leg issue, he could end up with mechanical problems down the road.
Correa’s injury was gruesome for sure but the difference is that happened in 2014 and since reaching the big leagues he’s never been on the IL for a lower half injury + has been statistically one of, if not the best, shortstop in baseball every year even with the other IL stints. We’ll probably never know what the doctor the Giants and Mets consulted saw that concerned them unless leaked. It clearly hasn’t affected him so far.
What a great video!
Thanks!
Great background music. W
Great video bro, if I could offer you one suggestion the music is a tad jarring for the style of video you're going for. @3.10-3.34 is an example. You don't really want to notice it but you want to know it's there, something atmospheric that sets the tone or vibe. Jon Bois is such a great creator and you can see his influence in your video. Check out some of the songs he uses in his 'Pretty Good' series, I reckon that will vastly improve your videos. Keep up the good work though bro
I use similar music to Jon from time to time, but I’d like to keep my style distinct from his own by using music that I grew up with
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Even though Yelich hasn’t been the same he still has been an above average hitter and he could still bounce back.
This didn't age well
The background music is so good
Great job on this video. Haven’t seen your channel before but I’m impressed with your research and presentation. You definitely need more subscribers. Happy trails.
Glad you enjoyed!
if i had to choose a favorite player from any era it’s prime yeli that swing was too sweet
Great video
Thanks Vladdy
Thank you for using the Donkey Kong background music towards the end.
Jesus man I hope you're right. Those couple years with Yelich at his peak were special here in Milwaukee. Will never forget a playoff game versus the Rockies I attended where Yelich homered, thunderous MVP chants, the yellow towels swinging. Brewers end dup winning on a walkout single. That was awesome. Unfortunately I don't think I'll see such a special baseball moment again.
I wouldn’t be so sure, the Brewers are lacking bats but they’re still one of the best developed teams in the NL Central. And in the meantime, the Bucks shall treat y’all nicely… hope that wasn’t too soon.
There have been hundreds of these types of “collapse” stories throughout baseball history. That’s why I’m shocked that baseball executives are eager and willing to give out these 10-13 year 300-400 million dollar contracts.
this is a great video
thanks for the heart
9:23 might be one of your best edits to date
That one's mean lol
The Wario City theme from Mario Super Sluggers was a nice addition
The song in the beginning of this video brings back good memories. I miss GTA 4
To me, JV was right when he said they were great due to juiced baseballs, minus the injuries. Sure they’re good players, potentially great but that had something to do with their numbers in 2018-2019, etc. You literally just don’t see guys fall off like this unless it’s something like that. I really hope they both have comebacks, especially Bellinger playing in Wrigley.
As a A’s fan I missed watching them homer practically every night, also I just miss 2018-2019 as a whole.
The brewers GM used to be assistant GM in Houston under luhnow.. yelich gets traded to MIL and randomly becomes Mike trout.. the bellinger case is a little different since he had already been good since he came up and their was some injury stuff that happened. Also the rest of his teammates didn’t fall off. I think if anyone was cheating it was yelich and I’d been saying this for years
Ehh I don’t think yelich cheated I feel like there would be way more stuff in that is that we’re the case and I still personally feel like when his knee cap exploded it was over
the background music in this video is elite
Don’t look now but this video hasn’t aged well Cody is doing amazing in Chicago maybe a change of scenery was what he needed
Hey I’m glad for these guys
Belli and Yelli both having solid seasons so far in 2023
Bellinger's precipitous fall is just so perplexing in so many way. Yelich's peripheral at least indicates that he's a quality hitter both in plate discipline and contact quality. Bellinger's defensive numbers suggest that at least physically, he is suffering no ill effects of his injuries. He still throws hard and runs great. Having both contact quality and plate discipline decline so much from an elite level at the same time is so unusual. High level players tends to maintain one or the other even in their down year
Nice vid bro. Subbed
Thanks!
As a cubs fan I’m still stoked to have belli. I think he’s great and can turn it all around
I wonder what effect braun leaving has had on yelich. There could have been some great leadership and advice that went away with his retirement
Banger
Many people are saying this
I still loved Belli even during his down season wish the Dodgers could’ve kept him but wish him the best with cubs maybe he’ll bounce back
This video is somewhat funny in hindsight considering they are both having fairly resurgent years at the plate
They must’ve watched and corrected their issues
They’re both having really good years this year!
They have been having a good couple months, too early to say if they are actually having good years.
Although as a Brewers fan, I really hope Yelich will have a good season.
You officially have the best baseball content on CZcams
Thanks, glad you’re enjoying it!
This isn’t an endorsement of the Noles, though. Go Canes!
As long as they both find ways to be consistent at this point, I'll be happy with that.
this guy is the most underrated person on youtube
Many are saying this!
GTA 4 soundtrack in the back was such a great pick 😭😭😭🐐
Liberty City soundtrack to kick off was sweet.
That GTA intro had me sub right away 🤙
Let’s appreciate the great music in this vid bro went from Super Sluggers to Trippie to Kanye
Pretty good 🐐
another banga
Dude that Aura plug Matt Kemp analogy was legit.
As a Brewer fan I think if Yelich never broke his knee he would have stand the same baseball player.
I have hope for Yelich. He had a better season in 2022 and even hit for the cycle again. Now that the shift has been banned, I think we can expect to see a bounce back for him in 2023.
Bellinger, though, I’m not so sure.
EDIT: I am now eating my words, Yelich is more of the same and Bellinger has been electric.
Belli gonna come back strong 💪🏼