What's My Line? - Charles Coburn (Aug 2, 1953) [UPGRADE!]
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MYSTERY GUEST: Charles Coburn
PANEL: Dorothy Kilgallen, Steve Allen, Arlene Francis, Bennett Cerf
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Candy Sheridan was absolutely delightful. Definitely a favorite challenger.
Of all the seasons, Candy Sheridan is my favorite challenger too.
If you look up her name there’s a small piece in The New Yorker about her. Somewhat sad as well.
The lady weatherman was hilarious--perfect deadpan.
I was waiting for her to say 'why are they laughing?'
Adorable!
Lovely lady brought tears to my eyes. Lol
She didn't know she was.
Oh they don't have actors like Charles Coburn anymore - what a joy!
Probably a good thing. According to Wikipedia, "Coburn was a member of the White Citizens' Councils, a white supremacist group which opposed racial integration."
Agree. He and Jack Benny my favorites.
I'm watching these chronologically and so far Mrs. Sheridan has to be my favourite guest so far. The deadpan delivery and straight face mixed with her accent made her answers somehow very funny.
She was so deadpan, she was almost catatonic. She sure kept everyone in the studio amused.
She was so taciturn and reserved (a product of her deep Southern upbringing, no doubt) you almost couldn't hear her. THIS to me is the definition of "charming." One of the sweetest young women I've ever seen or heard in any venue. If all women in the South had her personality and character, that would be the ONLY thing that would entice me to move to the South.
@@bluecamus5162 She reminded me of Steven Wright!
Yes, and she said that she was scared and still managed to pull that bar joke. Wunderbar!
She was a weatherwoman in Nantucket, who has been with the U.S. Weather Bureau since 1947. One night the writer found himself sharing a table with Candy, Tim Costello & Burl Ives. Candy's first husband Mr. Lee was a weatherman & she worked with him in weather bureaus in Charleston, Memphis, and then Alaska. After Mr. Lee was killed in an accident, she married Mr. Sheridan, an air craft-communications specialist. She & her husband are stationed in Nantucket, where Candy's work involves sending up radar-controlled balloons to find out what's cooking at heights like 100,000 feet and drawing weather maps. She said they fill balloons with helium, send them up, and keep in touch with them by radar until they explode. Candy said there were several other women in the Weather Bureau
Candy Sheridan was the best & most intriguing character i've seen on WML!
Certainly was...she was quite the yam.
She had the strangest affect.
Steve Allen was so funny in such a charming kind of way. 😂❤
That panel had a very high combined IQ. They finally guessed the prison cell!
@@leannsherman6723The audience helped them 😅
Mrs. Sheridan (the meteorologist) was so personable and funny! Definitely adding her to my faves list!
Adorable. More personality than many 'professionals" I think she takes her work and southern heritage with . I just move to the South and people down here still do. The PC police will be out protesting Weather MAN, but in those days man meant mankind and was respectful.
The US weatherman was great. I loved her accent. It was true that the designation "man" did apply to both sexes, yes, as in "mankind." Female flyers in the military are still called "airmen." Depending on the branch of service.
I love her! Very drôle.
@@shirleyrombough8173 Being old enough to have been alive to watch the originals and being a language major, I fear that the situation with "man" was a double-edged sword at the time. While it is true that the "nature of man" generally meant mankind because it was a social science, if not hard science construct, the names airman, mailman, fireman, etc., did not really. The armed services were not anticipating women warriors, so had not prepared to call people simply flyers or sailors, etc. Likewise, mail carriers and firefighters had not been considered because few outside of the feminist movement had anticipated women doing such jobs regularly. Paid work of certain types was for men and others for women. So, WML continues to utilize job descriptions such as male nurse or lady barber or lady butcher or lady cop or male secretary, when each of those lines of work was adequately described without the modifier noting the sex of the worker in front of it. The airman and similar designations in the military were retained, at least for a time, because it was too cumbersome and expensive to change all the tons of paperwork before knowing how the experiment with women in such posts would work out. My father was a supply officer in the Navy and an economics professor at a university, so knew of these things. He shared when questioned because they had not occurred to him as odd. I, personally, think the name of the job should describe the tasks being done while never strangulating the language. That became a bit of a problem for a period of time after these had aired with all sorts of lengthy descriptions that tagged either "man" or "woman" onto the end. It got silly. One who fishes is a fisher. Sufficient. It's even in the Bible. I suspect that meteorologists always had trouble with "weathermen" being assumed to be meteorologists when they were merely weather readers. I understood from one in my city that this designation was accidental because at the TV channels and radio stations they were all talking heads, whether hard news, sports, society gossip, weather, and they read the news in their area or predictions that came over the wires from those in the field they handled. So, when even folks at home began calling weather readers (before there were actual meteorologists in those jobs) merely weathermen it stuck because back in my friend's day they were all men. It was before the attractive busty blonde phase and the phases following it. So there's midshipman and there's sailor. One costs a lot of money to fix.
Instantly brings back the movie Gone with the wind!!😊
Mrs. Sheridan, if you are alive, YOU Were precious!!!!! 💅💅💅
*Mrs. Sheridan is just the sweetest thing to come down the pike in the whole history of this show!*
I SENCS A SADNESS IABOUT HER
Solomn 😊
Candy Sheridan - the MOST Adorable contestant ever. One could listen to her talk all day.
Move to the back woods of Kentucky. There are still some cutey pies running around.
@@steelcantuna Well.. it's a long way from West Australia... but what the heck! I'm on my way! X-D
I agree .
She's annoying as heck.
Sho' 'nuff, I found Mrs. Candi Sheridan absolutely delightful. While she admitted to being very nervous (as I can imagine many of the challengers were), she had an amazing capacity to be very forthright at the same time as being very soft spoken. And yet despite the softness of her voice, the panel seemed to hear all her answers clearly. That wasn't always the case with non-celebrity challengers. Watching her, I would describe her as a woman in the positive sense of the phrase that "butter wouldn't melt in her mouth."
Although they spelled her first name "Candy", Mrs. Sheridan was the subject of _The New Yorker_ magazine column "Talk of the Town" by John McCarten in the Dec. 19, 1953 issue. Apparently because Nantucket was a cozy place where the rich and famous often vacationed, she occasionally had the opportunity to hobnob with such folks. I can't link to the entire article because I would have to subscribe to their website for $1 a month to retrieve it, but this excerpt was interesting to me:
Talk. Interview with Candy Sheridan, a weatherwoman in Nantucket, who has been with the U.S. Weather Bureau since 1947. One night the writer found himself sharing a table with Candy, Tim Costello & Burl Ives. Candy's first husband Mr. Lee, was a weatherman & she worked with him in weather bureaus in Charleston, Memphis and then Alaska. After Mr. Lee was killed in an accident, she married Mr. Sheridan, an air craft-communications specialist. She & her husband are stationed in Nantucket, where Candy's work involves sending up radar-controlled balloons to find out what's cooking at heights like 100,000 feet, and drawing weather maps. She said they fill balloons with helium, send them up and keep in touch with them by radar until they explode. Candy said there were several other women in the Weather Bureau ...
Lois, thanks for the additional information about Mrs. Sheridan. I'm originally from the South, and Southerners love to have fun with "Yankees", appearing to be talking "slow as molasses and being rather dumb". One of my aunts was from Ohio, and was derogatory about Southerners. We had so much fun "pulling her leg", and then Wham!! We let her know we were teasing.
@@elizabethmorgan2621 I moved from a life in NYC to the South 8 years ago and people are still proud polite and genuinely genuine. I remember the first time I said ya'll and nobody was insulted !!!! The New York line is "We tink youse from da south jus' sound Stooopid."
2:36 I do believe she spelt her name with a Y. No big deal, just saying.
Steve Allen to Mystery Guest: 19:20 "Have you been in the public eye for say, longer than 15 years?" Delayed response. Allen: "And now its 16." lol The guy was simply the best.
Charles Coburn should have yelled, “DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!” 🏆
That movie is my favorite comedy. The More the Merrier.
Mrs. Sheridan first appeared to be quite nervous, but then settled in quite nicely. I enjoyed her accent, as I'm originally from Tennessee too. She was quite lovely! John is hilarious when he says "We've had an executive meeting". He was always intelligent and helpful to the guests. BTW, I can't stop watching these WML shows. So entertaining! Thank you so much!!!🥰👏👏🥰
I Googled Charles Coburn and found out that he was James Coburn's grandfather. Learn something new every day.
NOPE. No relation.
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Arlene's laughter! Goodness. She was such a delight. ❣️
I loved Mrs. Sheridan. She was so funny and deadpan which only made that segment funnier! I love the twang in her voice- just so cool. I think that has to be my favorite segment, so far. But I still have a long way to go! :) Arlene looked so beautiful, with the darker hair and her sparkling personality! She's my favorite, I have to say. Great episode! Thank you for all the hard work and time you put into this channel, Gary. As a mentally ill young woman unable to work and living with my parents, life is so hard some days. But this show just always brightens my days. I get such joy from WML. I'm forever grateful I found this channel. Keep up the fantastic work! :)
Kate Luxor I thought Steven Allen was serious and deadpan, Sheridan girl has him beat !!!
Kate Luxor With all respect I have to chime in, Kate. I am also mentally ill as well as physically iIl. However I find that as badly as I want to stay home at times, my little part-time job helps my emotional outlook. I work as a seamstress in the back room of a retail store, but do interact gently with other staff. On the days I feel well, staff is there for interaction. On the days I don't feel well, staff stands back. Could such a job be of benefit to you? I don't ask you for an answer, just want to give you something to think about. Good luck to you!
Wow, where did they find her! One of my favorite WML contents!!! If she were on a show today it would be so non PC....which I find ironic as she's 100% natural.
I agree. She was so seriously delightful. I also love these shows and in a strange way, I sometimes think of them as friends who cheer me up with their timeless charm.
I agree! Smart as a whip and deadpan. Fantastic!
I LOVE the weather lady. She was great!
This is my favorite episode so far because of the the southern bell. I am from Texas & have actually met a few girls like her over the years. One from a small town had an accent so thick sometimes I could not understand her. I think maybe she thought I was going deaf because I had to ask her to repeat herself so many times.
Funny "Deadpan Candy" just became one of my favorite challengers.
Great to see all these wonderful pioneers of TV. Sad to see TV fade away.
Coburn was a white supremacist. If that's on TV today, I wouldn't like it.
Mrs. Sheridan is a GREAT contestant! So much fun!
Love Mrs. Sheridan!
Been following the series since its inception and really enjoyed Mrs Sheridan, despite Mr Daly butchering her surname at the start. She really gave the show a boost and is one of the better contestants I've seen so far. For a 64 year old tape this is really well done. thank You.
🌹💙 Candy Sheridan is such an adorable person in so many ways; I hope wherever she is, she is just fine. Thank you Candy for brightening my day. 💕
She's passed many years ago😢
Love Coburn's acting.
For anyone wondering, Gentlemen Prefer Blondes WAS in color. However, Mr. Coburn had done TWO films that year and the other, Trouble Along the Way, was black and white. Since he was not asked for specifics, he was able to choose one and say "no," even though the panel was obviously thinking of Gentlemen Prefer Blondes. That's why the whispered conference and why John said it, "suddenly got more interesting."
Delightful, Charming, Adorable, and Captivating !!!! My parents would flip out if they could see these wonderful episodes! Endless thanks, dear Mr. Vaughn. You are my hero ♥♥♥.
Coburn appeared with Marilyn Monroe in two movies, most famously in "Gentlemen Prefer Blondes," the movie that made her a superstar the year of Coburn's appearance here. But the year before, Monroe had a small part in "Monkey Business," where Coburn tells her, "Find someone to type this."
I love this show. Excellent television.
Candy Sheridan. In addition to what has been said, I would've been curious to see her in colour particularly for her make-up which is quite different for the time, almost gothic. What an extraordinary challenger she was. Played it perfectly, they would never have guessed her profession even if the prize money went up to $100.. I would've loved to have been on there myself (I'm a piano teacher) and played it slow like she did.
Would've loved to see her stay utterly deadpan in response to what Hal Block might have had to say! Ha ha,
The best panel.
Another marvelous episode. Arlene sparkling as always, just with darker hair. Thanks for the upgraded video!
Dorothy looked radiant too!
Excellent upgrade. We, your humble audience, stand in awe of your skills. :D
Love that suthin' accent on the first (very cute) contestant! I grew up in southern Virginia and we never talked like that!
This was 70 years ago 😊
I sometimes forget I'm watching a show from the 50's, so when I go to look up the mystery guest, I'm always shocked by the birth dates every time. Charles Coburn was born in 1877. That's a mindbogglingly long time ago for a 27 year old to think about.
That may be the furthest back for a Mystery Guest so far...
Not to brag but... most people REALLY DO think I'm in my mid forties. I'm really 61 with no natural gray hair. My Grandmother was born in 1888 & remembers crossing form east Texas to west Texas in 1900 (when she was 12) to "the new farm" in a covered wagon. There's a guy only 22 years old told me not long ago, "it really wasn't all that long ago, was it?????
Coburn was a certified white supremacist. If that's on TV today, I wouldn't like it.
He may have been the earliest birth date among mystery guests on WML. "I've Got a Secret" has an episode featuring a 90-something man who was in Ford's Theatre the night Lincoln was assassinated.
@@frereM No, Frank Lloyd Wright was born ten years earlier.
@@dangerkeith3000
And you know this because...
This upgrade is a HUGE improvement on the previously-posted copy of this episode - and this episode is well worth the time spent doing so (particularly, but not exclusively, Mrs. Sheridan). Thank you very much for sharing it with us!
such clean, funny comedy! I love these shows!!
This one aired the evening of my parents' first wedding anniversary.
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Dorothy’s cute channeling her inner Betty Boop!
Gentlemen Prefer Blondes - a 4D picture! LMHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Nantucket Weather Girl from the deep south moves to my personal top 10 favourite segments! Delightful and good lookin'!
M. M. They called her weatherman on the screen when she's a woman. Male dominating times in the 50's.
Joseph T. In the 50s, the preferred term of reference for women in jobs with the suffix -man was lady followed by the occupation, such as lady fireman or lady policeman. Man for those jobs essentially meant person, and the non-gender alternatives were not commonly used, such as police officer or firefighter.
Litigious Society Thanks for the clarification,I had forgotten.
Ronald Reagan's Hollywood autobiography, "Where's the Rest of Me?" derives its title from a line Reagan said in his mostly highly-regarded acting performance in "King's Row." After suffering an accident, a doctor for misguided moral reasons and due to the interest of Reagan's character in his daughter, amputates both of the character's legs. Charles Coburn played the sadistic doctor.
Thanks so much for this better version! I know that what you had before was the best available at the time, but the nicest thing that could be said about it was that it was tantalizing. Keep up the good work!
At 19:12, Steve asked, “Are you larger than a breadbox?” (15th usage)
8:23 The best line from this episode.
No one has really commented on Charles Coburn who was an incredible character actor. He enhanced every movie he was in. I would watch anything that he was starring in. My favorite is The Devil and Miss Jones with Jean Arthur(also one of the best).
He is my favorite!!! Loved them and Joel McCrae in The More the Merrier. Best comedy ever!😊😂❤
Candy Sheridan is hilarious and Charles Coburn is classy and fascinating!
Candy Sheridan is my favorite WML guest. She's so adorable and sweet and she completely fool the whole panel.
Great episode, and one which I don't really remember, which makes it almost like a new episode for me! :) Thanks for the upgrade.
Steve gets literary at 16:15 -- "Does it have anything to do with the law, or punishment, and crime, and Dostoevsky?" The name of the author of Crime and Punishment is a bit hard to hear at the end of the sentence, but it's there. Who but Steve Allen would have finished the question that way?
Charles Coburn did indeed seem very charming. That was riotously funny and racy what John Charles Daly said about a “four dimensional picture.” 😂
70 years on and panel shows are still all the rage.
Marvellous tv programme.
Ha ha Allen's reference to Dostoevsky was a little too esoteric. Dorothy had a little 'hyuck hyuck' at it though.
This is a delightful one! I laughed out loud many times! Footcuff? Funny! Four dimensions? Mr. C being racy? A total surprise! The sweet Southern girl, far sharper than some realized, was a delight in how she deftly handled the panel’s questions. And Miss Arlene’s sharp mind getting the cell! Love the panel, but I worried that some of Dorothy’s laughter may have been condescension toward the weather “Man .”
Love Coburn ... everyone should see The Devil and Miss Jones , The More the Merrier ... my favorites.
THANK YOU !
A new opening debuted with this episode, including some "special effects" with the sponsor's product introducing the name of the program and the panelists blindfolds featured: the ones worn by Miss Francis with the eyelashes drawn on most prominent of all.
Can a more sophisticated method of doing the closing credits be far behind?
Thank you, I thought those were masks, but not sure, now I am
Wonderful actor. He was my 5th cousin.
Plz tell us more about delightful and talented Mr. Coburn, he and Jack Benny my favorite comedians and he also great in dramas.
Candy is very "relaxed".
So relaxed I think maybe had taken a tranquilizer b4 hand.
first contestant should have went on the road with a comedy act.
dead pan with the southern accent. very funny.
MrYfrank14 I love how she really turns on that accent.
I had to laugh when she, with that wide-eyed innocent look, said the most awful things happen when you marry a Yankee.
True southern women spoke like this, not an act!!😊
John Daly's barber had a previous occupation as a samurai...
ROFLOL😂😂😂
A loving riot in The More the Merrier.
Boy...the walk of shame and the free guesses sure slowed down the show.
Glad they quit the guesses and the walk
Absolutely.
Yep it’s lame😊
Like Steve's laugh during the second guest questioning.
Dorothy wasn't intentionally funny, but here she played incidental straight man for Steve Allen, who came up with some of the best throwaway lines, "I have an odd look, but she didn't give it to me."
Her voice is so pleasant enough back then during those times women were more pleasant looking and manners and all of that. They are today to but I like more back then old fahsion
“women were more pleasant looking”? GTFOH incel
Pure joy! 🤗
Mr. French is very handsome.
If the entire show was developed around the blond girl (weather person) from Nantucket Island and the mystery around her profession would have been quite entertaining. Very mysterious girl!
These “free guesses” verge on insulting sometimes.
I was 2 months old :)
I was 1 yr. & 4 months old. Love, love, love these shows.
Meterologist remind me of Carol Kane played on Taxi.....
Reminded me of Miss Schell in The Hanging Tree.
It's a good thing the camera work improved over the years.
What's my line is the original TV show in New York City
Great show which ran for a great many years, still they never got the sound right; the panel and the guests could often not hear each other.
4:19 The good old days when the language was not corrupted and she was known as a weatherman.
Amazing women of the 1940s and 1950s
The first contestant had a very good poker face...except for those occasions she did not.
Arlene got credit for guessing the line, even though she indicated the man was involved with 'making or selling' the product - with other contestants, the panelist would have to also guess if the contestant made or sold the product.
That was her natural look😊
Charles!
The women are always so polite, classy, courteous....everyone is really. Wish we still had that today. The shrews on the view could use some lessons 🙄
Charles Coburn must have been hard of hearing. John had to repeat a number of questions for him.
He was a white supremacist, he heard only what he wanted to hear.
You must not be in your 70's yet.
@@dangerkeith3000 and you are a one-track arse.
I suspect once again Bennett Cerf was tipped off.
I married a Yankee too .. I am a Louisiana lady and he’s from Upstate New York and we live in Texas
You lost the war - get over it
Everyone lost in that stupid war .. 😡
620,000 white soldiers fought and died to free the slaves. 😢Reparations paid in full
Candy Sheridan: www.newyorker.com/magazine/1953/12/19/an-isobar-unexpected Remember, at this time in the US, women were expected to be secretaries, nurses, teachers, and mothers. Remarkable woman!
John congratulated the MG on his sixteenth birthday, but Coburn was actually seventy-six at the time of this show. I’m surprised John got that one wrong.
"A man is as young as he feels" was John's setup for his 16th Birthday joke.
She seems more stoic than deadpan to me. . Wonder if she had been so nervous that she took a tranquilizer and is exhibiting the side effects.
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At 18:33 Dorothy asks the mystery guest if he is in "the movies" - is this the first time they are called movies rather than "motion pictures" on the show?
Lee Vines is the announcer.
The first contestant bears a resemblance to Lucille Ball.
Nope
Was not John Daly born on the CONTINENT of Africa in southern Africa?!
Nobody got the “4-D” joke? 3-D was big in the fifties and what do Marilyn Monroe and Jane Russell together famously have four of?
Until I realized that it was a monocle, I thought that that design on the chalkboard was a sperm cell.
Isn't that wonderful?
You don't see many monocles these days. I never understood why anyone would wear one as it just seems eyeglasses would be easier. Even if you only needed vision help in one of the lens. A monocle just seems like continued effort.
A monocle was often something of an affectation. And there was some class distinction in monocles. The wealthy could afford to have them custom made and therefore would fit them well enough that under most circumstances they would not fall out. That wouldn't be as true for those who could not afford a custom made monocle.
Even so, a common comedy device was to have a snobbish wealthy man be so shocked or surprised that his monocle would fall off and fall someplace interesting (someone's drink perhaps) and fall on the floor and break. Raising one's eyebrows too high is one of the ways a monocle is likely to fall out.
Lois Simmons Monocles for stuffy wealthy men were also ideal in pie fights on screen, in the 3 Stooges Genre, almost as great as those eyeglasses on sticks that the rich dowagers used.
They were all the rage for white supremacists such as Mr Coburn.
I wondered the same. Did people only have one bad eye that required a monocle? Then I read an article about a German man who wore his monocle on his good eye so as to force his bad eye to improve.
@@dangerkeith3000White supremacist, No such thing 70 years ago 😅
was charles coburn related to james coburn?
FlavioGirl not relation at all. Both great and very different character actors.
HAHAHAHA that weatherman was sure not funny lol (that MADE her funny lol)
and also, since when did they have color tv in the 50's? If that were the case, why did Andy Griffith, the Beverly Hillbillies, Petticoat Junction start in color?
The first color TVs were in 1953. The Cisco Kid was the first series to be filmed in color. Most shows were shot in black and white until well into the 1960s.
She seems to be more a "weather woman." What a nice job!
That is what she called herself, in the "Talk of the Town" column by Peter De Vries in the New Yorker magazine of December 19, 1953. De Vries called her a "meteorologist". She drew weather maps and sent radar-controlled weather balloons to a height of 100,000 feet, so she was not someone who went on TV and read the weather report off a Teleprompter.
Very nice banter with Coburn, considering he was such a vile human being.
Had to look him up to see what you’re referring to