Do Hero Levels Even Matter Anymore?
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- čas přidán 24. 06. 2024
- Do hero levels matter in clash of clans after the th16 update? After the time reductions and the new equipment and the new ores that we're getting in clash of clans, do the hero levels matter at all? This video will break all of that down for you.
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0:00 Intro
0:30 New Hero Upgrades
0:52 Equipment vs Hero Levels
2:00 Practicality of Hero Levels
2:30 Hero Potion Rework
4:06 Why Upgrade Heroes?
5:13 The 1% Rule
6:30 My Recommendations
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Hey everyone! I wanted to mention something I completely missed when scripting this video: The HERO REGENERATION stat does increase every 5 levels. This actually makes hero upgrades a lot more worth it, but I don't change how I would handle everything in this video simply due to the hero potions. I just wanted to make sure that I do mention this, as it is important (:
You also forgot to mention that maxed heroes on defense slap as gear doesnt matter at all
Am i missing something? How can it be positive that the regeneration time increases, doesn’t that just mean it takes longer for us to be able to use the heroes again? You must mean the health recovery increases, right? Increased health recovery is the positive every 5 levels and increased health regeneration time is a negative. Did I missunderstand anything?
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@@2000rune Nah you got nothing wrong, it's a negative point but it doesn't matter too much as the army training time increase due to army capacity increasing
So just more Strategic rushing basically. But if DPS and HTP matters for a lot of people it would be optimal to get your hero’s within 10-15 levels of max for your TH level
It's only a matter of time, till supercell makes the equipment so that you'll need to be at certain hero level to upgrade a hero's equipment
Yeah, thankfully, I've been following a rushing guide for three months, and I now have high-level heroes so I can take a break from looting Dark Elixir like crazy
@@HajanyzHwbqba Keep doing it. I don't understand people trying to absolute max their base before upgrading th, Rushing is the way. Not too much. Strengthen your offenses and a touch of major defenses.
@@accidentalgnius yeah i feel the benefits from it
@@accidentalgnius I think maxing is the way, you get to enjoy the game and learn new strategies. When rushing it will take you roughly a year to be ready to actually play the game, you should only rush if its ur second account.
Nah I want to have fun with each th at its fullest so i don't rush
Faster Maxing out is borring
Imagine upgrading your heroes for years and upgrading them more than using them only to get this update
Yup I might as well go fuck myself right
What time to be alive
It's just what happened to me lol..
They should definitely lower the hero upgrade costs… as hero levels used to matter for upgrading the ability now its two separate things
Bruh they just did that 💀
@@bharatmatakayoda Not enough to compensate for the exorbitant prices of the equipment. I am at TH 12 and my Queen is lvl 65 which is max for my TH but after the update the equipment is at lvl 11 which is NOT max for TH 12. So I spent millions of Dark Elixir just so Supercell can take that progress away by not giving me max equipment for my TH level even though my Queen is maxed. Now I have to grind for months just to catch up to where I was before the update.
@@LadyMoonboy I know that that's why I am skiping th10
@@LadyMoonboy they did plenty tho because rhey also dropped pet time/cost
Nah just farm more
The hero equipment should've be automatically upgraded alongside hero's level. Or at least it should be easier to obtain ore
Honestly I agree. All the ores are kinda unneeded.
New currency for an old game is dangerous
At least they upgraded the og equipments/abilities.
I disagree with this comment completely this update is amazing it actually made my clan more active in wars were we are able to spin them back to back instead of once a week
That's why if you had a maxed out hero you got the gear at that level it should be. Ore will be easier, it'll probably show up on the next months gold pass, in the shop etc
They should make it where once you upgrade your hero to the next 5th level (every 5 levels you upgrade), you get a certain amount of ores to use to upgrade the hero ability items.
Additional Tip- Don’t forget your heroes are also help you in defence 🙂 …. Max Heroes = Harder for your opponent to attack you in war 🤝
Low hero’s = don’t have to use head hunters which = more troop space = easier to 3 star
Finally someone using his brain
Don't know how people enjoy rushing like I'm fully enjoying upgrading step by step with my clan mates it's like a mini competition between us 😂
I'm still going to max my heroes just so I can flex on my friends😂
HAHA SAME
Bro treating heroes like walls
Heroes are the new walls
Haha🤣🤣
This is really problematic in my opinion....what about our hard work all for all these years...n now we have to grind the equipment 😢
Yeah I dislike this update
Players do 200-300 attacks per season excluding wars...can u claim that much amount of potions?.
Truth I was a rusher but now 2 years of grind i maxed out my hero's now I am seeing no value of maxing my Heros i kinda like also dislike this update
@@Kickinoffthenoobs stupidity should not be rewarded. There is a 0 chance that supercell will leave it like this.
@@Dickdash rushing is horrible for CW performance. Our clan excludes any rusher from playing CW so they will be limited to starbonus to aquire the orbs.
Hope they either hard nerf the potion, make it impossible to get from normal means or preferably just revert it to a +5
Hero's are still in defense. So it is still really important to upgrade them so your defense is stronger. A hero potion doesn't effect defense in war
Yeah but if u are a rusher, you always have defensive building to upgrade and that upgrade always better than hero upgrade
@@HajanyzHwbqba I would choose a max king/queen above all wizzards towers
@@larshaver8561 Except that max wizard towers takes a fraction of max king/queen. If I remember correctly, maxing your heroes is over a year of upgrades. The more correct comparison would be maxed EA, inferno, xbox, air defence and a bunch of other stuff vs maxed king/queen
defensive heroes got nerfed
Heroes are very useless on defense tbh
Barbarian king gets 3 taps from e drags even at maxed levels, archer queen 2 taps and bad AI
Only the RC does it good but quite sucks for offense
As someone who warden walks for every attack for cwl its kinda sad that people say warden is useless other than the abilities
Yeah, same for queen walk
if you like Warden Walks, I have had great success so far using the Rage Gem + Life Gem or Rage Gem + Eternal Tome on the Warden Walk, because of the Rage Gem you likely wont need to commit Rage Spells to your Healers to keep the Warden alive so you can focus Spell usage on the rest of your army
Who does that
@@Karlriddle smart players
Whilst not guaranteed also need to protect against future updates. If the hero levels suddenly become more important again, the upgrade time makes that one huge hill to climb if you need to catch back up
Cool, 100% agree with all your argument. Thankyou for your rushing guide, because of your guide i have pretty high level heroes before update and it gave me high initial level in equipments
Us Low level town halls are abusing the earthquake boots btw😂
Th8 ko tho bk pura khol deta hoga 😂🤣
@@DevBokadia-xt1clth9 bhi
I would say, that when u want to upgrade to new town hall, you just shouldn't take into consideration levels of your heroes as much, like before
Nothing matters .. the game is completely defenseless. This is no longer a strategy game.
I agree.
Great video. I think hero levels will be most relevant on defense now
I agree. Hero levels apply at defense also
I think technically you don't even need hero potions from events because you can use 1 potion to do 2 cwl attacks
Yeah but if the next cwl war starts at 3am… good luck waking up for a week just to get value with hero potions
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Found this channel today.. Glad to see someone stating the facts instead of sugarcoating unnecessarily like official content creators..
Instead they should add the system where you can use your heroes while they're upgrading.
You can use troops,spells and seige even when they're on upgrade, so why not heroes?
I’ve been saying this for years. If you could use heroes while upgrading the game becomes more fun instantly since you can actually use heroes outside of wars. Make the star bonus every 12 hours and boom heroes equipment is also fixed.
Agreed😊
They got trash excuses for it like they always do. "Oh it will break the game" And selling power in your shop doesn't break the game???
Look at the shop now u can literally buy orbs for gems and more so tomorrow they are adding another PASS ingame exclusive with orbs in it for another 4.99
Loooooool
Barbarian king is definitely worth upgrading because of the hitpoints on damage per second, which was slightly buffed
At level 1 he got around 2k hitpoints, maxed he has 11k and the damage triples
Using earthquake boots and rage, when he gets in range of town hall, using his ability almost instantly obliterates everything in area
As someone who’s played for like a decade (on and off at times) and have maxed my heroes before going up to the next town hall I really hope they make it worth it cause now I regret not rushing smh
Was looking for the video like that for a while. Cheers!
What an awesome video. This is your best content yet. I was thinking about it all along.
I really liked your point of view in all of these aspects of the game, great work!
What if supercell nerfs the medal shop again and make hero potions not available like builder potions now that their value increased a lot.
That's probably going to happen! As soon as supercell realises what players are doing they are going to nerf it
@@guts4942 then players will quit 😂
Don't Give Them ideas Bro 💀
Hey remove super**** from the comment.. I don't want them to here this
@@lycoris0102 rage quitters lmao
when epic equipments come out those are gonna be the real game changers
If you want to save your potions in CWL, you can just attack at the end of one day and the start of the next, lets you double up just like in standard war
They even took out that small animation your queen does when she would activate her ability her arrows would start to glow till her ability is off 😭 it makes me feel like my queen isn’t doing as much damage as she did before
Hey man, I appreciate the effort you put into your videos! Keep it up!!🙌🏼
This is the wrong approach to fixing the hero issue imo. The cost and time investment is an issue yeah, but whats way more of an issue still is not beeing able to use em all the time.
Imo they should've stuck with the +5 levels and made it so u can use your heros while upgrading when the potion is active.
Nope, people gem the build time to have them available. No freebies. If they change that…..better give people who gemmed money back.. see the dilemma my friend? 🤷🏼♂️
@@thespons076 I can see where you're coming from... Still, I personally wouldnt mind. Where I'm at now with my progress I maxed out like 85-90% of my hero levels the way it works currently and I'd still rather have it changed then keeping it like this for new players.
Maybe if they introduce a new magic item thats a bit more expensive (cost cwl medals or a lot of raid medals or something) then in that case players like you wouldnt feel like they're beeing scammed since the new item also is quite expensive itself for the newer players (maybe make it last for 12 hours though).
Anyways, just a concept...all I'm sayin though is they could've done a lot better with reworking the potion.
@@thespons076 So ur saying that ur mindset is - if anyone every spent any type of currency like money or time on anything, it can never be changed because there will be someone who was negatively affected by the change?
@@gdta1738you just read what I said. Interpret any way you like. 😊thanks for the feedback.
To make it short, they nerf our hero
Well, for me since Hero Potion temporary max my heroes ill just upgrade them whenever Hero Book is available, save my builder time and i could immediately use my hero with slow progress but better than no progress
for a cwl, you can actually activate it in a way that it will cover 2 wars. just activate it 30 min before one ends, attack late in one war, and youll have time to attack for the next war
i max everything for every th, including heroes! I've done so since the start of the game, and it's the best way to experience the game
How have I just found your channel. Great content 👍
Bro you're doing God's work. Subbed.
If I see one big issue with this update is hero equipment ore Aquisition for alt accts is going to add up to a lot of extra stuff to do vs what i had to do before. Not touching minis at least till main is done in light of that reality.
Agreed. I can't even build blacksmith on my minis bro they are th12 with lvl 50-60 heroes and the equipment you get after building blacksmith that that level is horrible. I got a th13 account with lvl 40-60 heroes that got equipment lvl 8-9 and lvl 4 for RC hero. I feel bad for building the blacksmith on it now. My heroes got nerfed as soon as I built the building.
for the cwl u can just use one potion and attack at the last 30 minutes of the wars that way u will have it for 2 wars
As someone who was siting at maxed base and heroes before th16.. god id never wana go from the start with those lvls.. just rush the new lvls as soon as they come and ur at peace of mind..
They should of never changed the hero potion. But like someone else mentioned, the potion doesnt effect defensive heros, making their bases easier to smash. So sure, please dont upgrade your heros, makes it easier for me to 3.
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They had to do that to compensate for the fact that low hero levels give low equipments when you build the blacksmith. Like I got some accounts with equipment levels 8, 9 and lvl 4. Meanwhile my th14 has lvl 14 and lvl 15 equipments for heroes. You can use a potion and get a lvl 60-65 warden but you still got crap equipments which means that your lvl 60-65 warden only has skill that lasts 4-5 seconds instead of 12 seconds. So don't build the blacksmith until you get at least max th14 heroes or else you check out the price of orbs to lvl up the equipment LOL that's 20-30k ORBS you will need just to get your heroes to work like they did before at max level.
Are you going to update your rush guides? I'm particularly interested in hearing the TH13 one.
for cwl, attack 10 min before the end, so you have around 50 min for the next day so acctually you need only 4 potions for cwl
I have been away from the game all this month so watching this videos are very helpful since now i feel like i am a noob all over again
For cwl...use the hero potion at the last minute of a day....
U can do the next day attack of the cwl using that same hero potion...so technically even cwl needs only 3/4 hero potion for heroes.
Don't forget you'll need to use a training potion as well to train your troops that fast!
You can store 2 armies so no you don't need a training potion@@julessap3333
@@julessap3333yeah but training potions are much cheaper
Best coc youtuber by far! Great job
lol i watch every single video of yours cuz they are extremly useful
With 1 hero portion we can attack in 2 cwl, can collect 2 star bonus and multiple attacks for remaining time. Therefore upgrading heroes seems to be a very tiring process to me now.
Is that text that comes out on the bottom of this video closed caption? How can i disable it?
i quit upgrading my heroes (except RC) from learning from this video, but now i constantly have overflowing DE. how do you deal with the overflowing DE? do you just let it go to waste?
as someone whos about ready to max th 10 i gotta say how much harder it is to max and attack with new equipment because with maxed heroes you dont get maxed abilities anymore
Hmmm
So I normally use hero potion at end of the war day in cwl( having 30mins is ok for me) attack in cwl then wait a bit for the next cwl war day to start and then I can still attack with the potion in effect... In this scenario you will need only 4 hero potion total a week ... You get 3 from shop... You gotta get one from somewhere.
They should make hero upgrades still allow you to use them in your army
Wow great video
why does the book of Heroes still cost 500 gems 💀
Higher level heroes are lethal on defense too. Don't forget that.
You regularly avoid attacking the Max level 90 Heroes over the level 30 Heroes.
I mean... To get them to level 90 you will spend like 5 months upgrading them and in that time span you will get attacked by heaven and hell. Only for them to attack with E-drags which melt your heroes in 2-3 hits
@@leonel392best opinion so far 🤘🏽
It's weird that clash is now promoting town hall rushing
It isn’t
It will come down to you can get level 20 equipment without a certain level of the hero so like a level 30 hero
They should drastically reduce the upgrade time on the heroes or make those hero books a lot more abundant. Everyone likes having high lv heroes. But without their abilities a lv90 king is more or less the same as a lv80.
At the moment heroes are a dark elixir sink like walls are a gold/elixir sink.
I literally was up till 1 am last night thinking about exactly the same things that you mentioned lol. thanks for assuring and confirming my thoughts!!
edit: 5:45 i really thought someone was bombing my discord
I have decided to only keep my heroes on for the cwl, and upgrade them other times. I only upgrade queen and warden atm
Does upgrading warden now worth it?
Looking forward to maxing Heroes for the yellow flames and nothing else
I already maxed my heroes for th13 just before this update fml with my defenses still having like a month or more left
Hero levels have always been a drag and now it just feels even worse. After the equipment update I stopped upgrading my heroes (Im a th13 with max heroes for th12) and the game is just so much more fun. I mainly use hybrid which needs heroes and it sucked having to use sneaky goblins for farming or electrodragon because my heroes would be constantly upgrading. It's ridiculous having to spend 2-3 months and tons of DE/Elixir for what has now become minor stat buffs.
I mean if u use your raid medal for hero potion you wouldn't be able buy research portion which means your troops upgrade is delayed. Hmm 🤔
casual player who never war seeing that he need to war to upgrade unnecessary hero equipment be like:
Yeah, if it wasn't that hard to obtain the ore for this shi
Just upgrade them hero levels. Why? Cause you can practice any army, especially those with sui hero dives without thinking about your low level heroes.
“How many of you are relying on your wardens dps to get you through an attack? Probably no one”
Warden walk: Am I a joke to you?
Every 5 lvls of hero upgrade should give 2 free upgrades to that specific hero or give a equivalent of gems needed to upgrade the gear
This would've been a good time for them to rework hero upgrades
Now this is the content which every F2P players would love to watch, where rest of the content creator are just flexing there spending spree ..
Would be waiting for more content like this🔥
They should make hero levels have a buff on there gears. Instead of an ability upgrade, it should be a boost of the effects of Gears. So if you have like a lvl 10 Warden it’ll be like a 2% boost on Healing Tome time
I've th13 base with queen level 66... Before this equipment think was introduced, I decided to make her to level 70... But now should I upgrade her more before going to th14 or just stop here?? Also my warden is level 44, what should I do with him?? Want a helpful reply please
nice Video, you look a lot like akshan from lol :D
BD!!!! when will u start the Srushing lets play series i am waiting
I love the new update, I basically own like 2 rushed accounts in th13, th14 with this update I can 3 star max th14 easily and even some th15 with my rushed th14
0:45 actually no,every 5 levels the health recovery when activating an ability gets a buff, and every hero gets that, even the grand warden
So yeah hero upgrades are not that useless
Technically you only need 4 heroes to get you through all of cwl if you time your attacks in between days
Make a video on new event what to buy for progress
3:50 there's another way. You can enable the boost during the last 10 minutes or something and then attack. You can attack on the next war day using the same boost. Lol
Whats the name of the song from 5:24 - 6:28?
I am going to th15 after couple days, so what should I do regarding heroes, how fast should I upgrade them or the overall priority regarding heroes ?
imo just still keep heroes your first priority for a couple months you can max them and then do other upgrades,th15 here so i can feel ya, keep up the grind brotha
I just want to max everything on my base ,,,,,, literally everything 😅
Yeah im th16 with lvl 90 heros and im not worrying about my heros anymore. They are strong enough to not even bother anymore, the gear is way more important
Yupp!! Exactly. The way im also scripting a video and saying what you just said too LOLOL
Imo hero upgrades can be very nice if they dont need a builder
Atleast the OG abilities should be automatically upgrade like they used to.
They can add something in update
Like you can upgrade your equipments to max level, but can't use the max level with lower heros
I've idea
Like 3king ,3queen, 2.5warden, 1.5RC lvls to 1 equipment lvl
So to use a 18lvl equipment hero lvs must be 54, 54, 45, 27
& to use 27lvl epic equipment hero lvls must be 81,81,67,40
Or something similar to this model🤔
Hey, I hope you are gonna make a video soon about how to most efficiently use Cooki medals for all TH levels and for both free users and those who will buy the pass.
It'll help a lot knowing how we should get the most value out of it.
with the introduction of hero equipments, its about time Supercell readjust the cost of upgrading the heroes
They will increase the hero portion rarity
Absolutely!
I defiantly think this this is the case with how it’s going. Agree 1000 percent. Bdñegwnd always telling it like how it is 💯💯
Supercell should give ores when you upgrade your hero so it will be somewhat worth it
I like levels less relevant now the dark elixir they need for upgrade is a lot and its not fast to farm dark elixir
Idk and idc because I’ll still upgrade them in case they make them more significant
Man I found your channel just recently and watched your stretagic rush method I loved it but can I use that same guide now after the update??
I am th 12 and I was th 11 max with lab included but now I am new th 12 and don't know what to do max like old school or rush
Can advise me on this it will be a huge help😅😅😅
No its Not worth
Ok then what is your advice for my coc account
You forgot one point
Hero's play major role in defending a base.
Supercell already said the boost to the Hero potion and the Power potion are only for a short time, the Hero potion will revert back to mediocrity in a month or less I bet.
heroes are still really important on defense, you still need to upgrade your heroes