Hämeenmaa-class minelayer | Is there any place for the minelayers in the modern navies?

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  • čas přidán 5. 07. 2024
  • We are investigating the Hämeenmaa-class of the Finnish Navy, one of the last in its type. #hameenmaa #finnishnavy #minelayer
    Special thanks to Satunnaista sotilashistoriaa channel to share its unique video footage and information with us
    Channel link: / @satunnaistasotilashis...
    Why did Finland prefer to design and build minelayers for a long time?
    What missions have been performed by the Hämeenmaa-class in the Finnish Navy?
    Why is Finland now giving up the minelayers?
    Is it the right time to decommission the Hämeenmaa-class?
    00:00 Introduction
    01:22 Historical background
    02:44 Programme history
    03:25 Design
    05:00 General characteristics
    05:53 Radars (TRS-3D/16 E / CEROS 200)
    06:18 Sonars (Kongsberg ST2400 / SS2030)
    06:39 Rheinmetall MASS
    06:57 Umkhonto IR - ITO 2004
    07:28 57mm SAK Mk1
    07:47 RBU-1200
    08:03 Merimiina 2000
    08:34 Analysis of sea mines and minelayers
    09:44 Analysis of the Hämeenmaa-class
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Komentáře • 33

  • @WeaponDetective
    @WeaponDetective  Před 2 lety +4

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  • @tommiterava5955
    @tommiterava5955 Před 2 lety +21

    Naval mines are still a very formidable threat to enemy ships and submarines. And if necessary, a minefield can be laid pre-emptively to deter any aggression. A minefield makes enemy amphibious assault almost impossible. In addition, the Finnish Navy can guard its minefields and prevent an enemy mine countermeasures operation with anti-ship missiles from missile boats and mobile coastal batteries. The Gulf of Finland is very narrow so Russia's access to the rest of the Baltic Sea can be easily blocked by laying naval mines. So in Finland's case, I would say that dedicated minelayers are still relevant.

  • @ghansu
    @ghansu Před 2 lety +10

    Sea mines are very effective at the shallow and narrow area like a baltic sea. There are so many islands in there that with mining those narrow paths makes it very risky for naval operations. One mine sinks a ship and nobody wants to take a risk to sail hugely expensive ship on the area if there is even some sort of risk theres mines in there.

  • @kk-gr3ly
    @kk-gr3ly Před 2 lety +18

    The biggest problem is the structural integrity's detrition, which makes them extremely dangerous to operate without modernization or extensive maintenance. And taking account the cost for the maintenance or upgrades keeping them active just isn't worth the price.

  • @dawnsparrow4477
    @dawnsparrow4477 Před 2 lety +7

    Too nice video about..Finish FNS Hammeenma class minelayer ship 🚢 ..video clearly explained all characteristics and its history background of designed thanks ( weapon detective) channel for sharing

  • @roderickcampbell2105
    @roderickcampbell2105 Před 2 lety +5

    A very comprehensive and complete analysis to squeeze into a short video. I kept looking for something to complain about, but came up empty. I especially concur with your conclusions. Thank you for posting this.

  • @kronop8884
    @kronop8884 Před 2 lety +9

    Well, if you want to block part of the Russian fleet from entering the Baltic sea (from the Kronstadt naval base at St Petersburg) they can be put to good use.

    • @herptek
      @herptek Před 2 lety +2

      Like in the good old days.

  • @ajk1616
    @ajk1616 Před 6 měsíci +1

    In summer 2019 FNS Hämeenmaa accidentally violated russian sea border near Suursaari island in Gulf of Finland. Depending on the news source FNS Hämeenmaa sailed in russian territorial waters for 600 meters or 600m beyond the border. Russia never responded to this area violation which raised some speculations that the event went in fact unnoticed. Finland issued a formal apology afterwards.

  • @AnimeSunglasses
    @AnimeSunglasses Před 2 lety +2

    I'm reminded of the extreme range of utility the Royal Navy got out of the Abdiel class...

  • @habahan4257
    @habahan4257 Před 2 lety +3

    Good video. Another video that nobody mentioned. I love this. But, a little note that you should also mention the LSTs as minelayers.

  • @erkanylmaz5564
    @erkanylmaz5564 Před 2 lety +1

    Harikasın usta. Çok güzel bir video daha .

  • @michaelmulligan0
    @michaelmulligan0 Před 2 lety +4

    Seem like very capable flexible vessels

  • @louiswilkins9624
    @louiswilkins9624 Před 2 lety

    Cool

  • @solstice5605
    @solstice5605 Před 2 lety

    A dedicated minelayer class is kind of outdated, if you look at the German K-130 class, wich also got mine rails, you get an idea of what is at least needed today.
    Second to it, you showed already the replacement of the Hämeenmaa-class, so I wouldn´t be worried.

  • @Ho_Lii_Fuk
    @Ho_Lii_Fuk Před 2 lety +12

    They can supply Joukahainen-class Nuclear Subs that can launch both Väinämöinen 1 and Väinämöinen 2 nuclear missiles. Of course both the missiles and subs are insanely secret and can't be found on internet but they are real. I swear this is truth (not).

  • @petertimowreef9085
    @petertimowreef9085 Před 2 lety

    I never understood dedicated mine-layers. I can see how crucial the capability is, but I would think dumping mines in the sea doesn't take any advanced equipment, almost any ship can be adapted to the mission with minimal effort.

    • @Pyhantaakka
      @Pyhantaakka Před 2 lety +1

      I think it was partially about the speed at which the minefield could be laid. Amphibious assault from other side of the gulf was one of the main concerns during cold war.

    • @johanmetreus1268
      @johanmetreus1268 Před rokem +2

      Dumping a few mines overboard is not a problem to arrange capability for, but mines, as a efficient as they are, are also quite bulky weapons.
      That requires a ship laying a field over several nautical miles to not only have large enough cargo hold to transport the mines, but also facilities to bring them out both fast and safe to minimize the vulnerable period of the steady course and speed needed to place the individual mines in their position within the minefield.

    • @herptek
      @herptek Před 8 měsíci

      On the other hand, a coastal fleet barely needs to be optimized for other kinds of warfare than minelaying. Other capabilities are a bonus.

  • @mini_bunney
    @mini_bunney Před 2 lety

    ah yes, the Nakkivene

  • @saroarrony3621
    @saroarrony3621 Před 2 lety +1

    Give more and more new update

    • @kk-gr3ly
      @kk-gr3ly Před 2 lety

      Too costly compared to their effectiveness

  • @meejinhuang
    @meejinhuang Před 2 lety +2

    Taiwan needs a big fleet of these.

    • @falanglao01
      @falanglao01 Před 2 lety +2

      Taiwan just commissioned 2 new minelayers

    • @WeaponDetective
      @WeaponDetective  Před 2 lety +5

      @@falanglao01 We did not cover the Min Jiang-class, because they are minelayer boats, not ships.

    • @Adrian-qk2fn
      @Adrian-qk2fn Před 2 lety

      @@WeaponDetective I posted a comment mentioning them before I had read your comment above.
      As a sidenote, an interesting historical fact. These two ships- and the preceding Pohjanmaa-class- were named after Finnish Provinces but also after various types of warships used by the Swedish Archipeligo Fleet based in Finnish waters in the 18th Century & into the beginning of the 19th Century.

  • @kaponnews1408
    @kaponnews1408 Před 2 lety

    Why did Finland accept Russia's request of limitations?

    • @johanmetreus1268
      @johanmetreus1268 Před rokem +1

      Because the previous invasions by the Soviet Union proved rather costly for Finland.

  • @micahh9351
    @micahh9351 Před rokem +1

    These ships are literally designed to troll everyone.
    U mad navies?