Magic Johnson and Tim Duncan | Nick Wright’s Top 50 NBA Players of the Last 50 Years | 5 & 4
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- We have arrived to the Top 5 of Nick Wright’s Top 50 list! Nick reveals players 5 and 4 - two players whose style of play could not have been more different, yet who both displayed consistent excellence from early on and helped transform their teams into dynasties. One is often regarded as the greatest power forward in NBA history, while the other is known for his dazzling passing skills and playmaking ability. Let Nick know your thoughts on this week’s rankings in the comments!
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Magic Johnson and Tim Duncan | Nick Wright’s Top 50 NBA Players of the Last 50 Years | 5 & 4
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Did Nick get it right this week?
Lebron doesn’t have arguably greatest coach of all time . Top 10 player in the league every year with him (healthy) , 6 man(Kukoc) , and league leader in rebounds (Rodman) over 5 yrs in a era of big men he lead in rebounds at 6’7. Lebron has to fill out all those spaces. If we talking scores Jordan has it by default because that’s all he had to do
He’s gonna put Michael at 3, Kareem at 2, LeBron at 1
Next week he get it wrong.
Could you give an honest explanation for why Pistol Pete was left off? He was otherworldly, yes he lost ALOT, but if Earvin was Magic, Pete Maravich was Wizardry
@@bluewhale2846 Nahhh!...I think he does Bron at 3, Kareem at 2, and Mike at #1..........'course, I could be wrong about Kareem and Mike......;-D
Say what you want about Nick Wright, but this is some of the most thorough player rankings I’ve ever seen
Except for Luka at 20
Anybody can just read off stats. If you didn't see the games then it is hard to put into context what really happened
He is all about stats that go with his argument not with history he goes with personal narratives that supports his cases
@joceja23 it sounds like he did watch a lot of these games though
@@genofalconejr5717 Do you think he didn’t watch any of these games? It would be bananas for him to attain the status in the analyst space but not watched games.
Nick forgot to mention that game 6 finals Duncan vs the Nets where it was well documented that the stat recorder missed Duncan's 2 blocks and Duncan should have had a quadruple double that game which would have been the the only quadruple double in playoff history much less finals history.
Thank you! Was thinking the same thing he should be credited for a quadruple double
Another reason he's solidly above Kobe, but I don't think it moves him pass any of the 4 guys in front of him.
"the stat recorder" LMAO
@@shamidullah1 a solo game should not be a factor in his placement in front of or behind Kobe. That is silly logic. Nick nailed it with the 50 win seasons for Duncan/Spurs.
@@jstdun it's not THE reason it's ANOTHER reason. This game shows that Duncan's peak was just as high as Kobes. And then you factor everything else In aswell.
I really want to see skip being one of the callers for when Jordan gets revealed behind lebron cuz that would probably have to be its own episode 😂😂😂
We need that!
And Shannon for LeBron 😂
Nah it will be Broussard, I agree skip would be better. But for some reason I've seen Nick give no love to skip or Shannon and Vice versa. Only two people that seem to get love from everyone is Colin cowherd / Chris Broussard
How is this comment from 11hrs ago.. Vid just premiered at 9am ?😂
It's Nick's show, and I would imagine he'd veto that decision. Skip doesn't even have Lebron in his Top 5, they are so far apart in their views. Skip is one of those "Jordan sycophants" that Nick refers to, and I just get the impression he wouldn't want to engage with somebody who doesn't even respect Lebron as a Top 5 player
I’ve never known a bigger Tim Duncan fan than myself. He was the classiest player of all time and an exceptional player. This was a masterclass summary of his career. Well done, Mr. Wright.
Goat level consistency but no where near a top 10 peak
His mechanical and colorless game will hurt him for future generations when highlights and individual moments will have to tell his story
The visual component of his game will always be lacking
They don’t want to hear that they’re brainwashed off things like ‘efficiency’, like he wasn’t a Big or something
@@giokarp peak is kinda overrated. Having a great 5 year peak is not as good as being excellent for 20 years. Which is why Duncan > shaq
He was no where near excellent for any part of his career
@@1YpsiBoi uhh.. winning MVP is excellent. Winning finals MVP is excellent. 1st team all NBA and All Defense is excellent. Not sure what you call excellent other than probably only scoring
The remaining players are the starting 5 for the last 50 years. The best player at every position. Magic at the point, Jordan at the 2, Bron at the 3, Tim Duncan at the 4 and Kareem at the 5. There is no beating that team.
Definitely the best players of each position.
Agree. That’s my all time starting 5!
Curry, Kobe, Shaq, Bird, and Giannis would eat that team for lunch.
@@AliHusain-in2pv lol what 😂 significant significant drop off defensively. Shoots better sure but the other team would lock them down
kobe as the 6th man
Nicks top 3
1.LeBron James (Cleveland)
2.LeBron James (Heat)
3.LeBron James (Lakers)
...
51.Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
77.Michael Jordan
🤣
4. LeBron James (St. Vincent-St. Mary)
Nick, life time Kobe fan here…..you’re the first person to ever convince me on Duncan. Well done
Respect to you for actually listening. I'm a life long Shaq fan,and I obviously loved Kobe as well. But I was always worried about Duncan. He didn't just play the right way, he got so much out of other guys...kinda like a Tom Brady
@@paulrancourt9925 man y’all letting these people brainwash you guys. Everyone knows during their primes everyone was calling Kobe the best player in the world. No one ever had Tim Duncan as the best player in the world. Don’t let Nick Wright and the Kobe haters/Lebron Lovers change the narrative now.
@@paulrancourt9925 y’all sit up here and value this man’s opinion like it’s the Bible, but literally 99% of the NBA players have Kobe in the top 3 and you guys give no credit to that. Basically telling me y’all think Nick knows more than the guys that played or play in the NBA .. it’s crazy lol
@@mickfoley9578 Kobe has as many rings as Duncan’s dynasty teams and was the top 2 player for all of them. They definitely got people brainwashed. Nobody ever thought Duncan was better while they were playing
@@1YpsiBoi Man bro it’s crazy, leave it up to these dudes Tim Duncan was the face of the league smh
Thank you Nick Wright, your content is a basketball junkies Dream!
Not really. A stats and numbers junkie dream. That’s not basketball, that’s math.
@@greatest515 lemme guess you're a Kobe fan lol
I completely agree on the top 5 players. Cutting the list to the last 50 years was a great idea. So many of those guys from the 60s are hard to judge. The game was so different. It's nice to see Tim Duncan getting some love. While he's always respected, I feel like too many analysts have him low on the lists. Can't wait to see 1-3!
Love Nick still acknowledging Wilt and Russell.
The idea that there are 10 men better than Chamberlain is absurd.
@@SmartDave60 I think in all time lists Russell and Wilt are kinda locked somewhere around 5 and 6, they're the oldest players you can still see a good amount of footage of but it's also agreed that it was a lot easier to get Bill's rings or Wilt's stats back then. They're kind of the gatekeepers of the pantheon, you have to be, somehow, more impressive than the both of them to be one of the true GOAT contestants.
@@USALeonHeart if it was easier to get stats like Wilt back then, why is there no one even approaching his stats in that era?
@@SmartDave60 it might be more fair to say it was easier for Wilt specifically than it would've been in subsequent eras. I still think Wilt would out-athlete a lot of guys in today's NBA, but he also rarely faced guys even approaching his size or speed. I'd also imagine if we could measure usage rate pre-1978 we'd find Wilt had the highest usage rate of any player in the era of basketball with by far the highest number of possessions.
@@USALeonHeart I’m just thinking there HAD to be other crazy athletes in that era who also should have feasted on the overall lack of size and athleticism in the NBA back then.
Tim Duncan is easily top 5. The fact he never won less than 50 games in a season, is 15 time all defense for the most ever, and has 5 rings but EASILY could've had 8....makes him top 5. The most boring superstar ever, but probably the best teammate and leader of all time.
Hall of famers his entire career. Most overrated player of all time. Not top 10
@Pretend you caring about who I subscribed to 10+ years ago is weird
Duncan isn’t top but is likely somewhere between 8 to 10.
Nick, you remember the smallest details in the most memorable games! You're great at what you do. I'm glad Tim Duncan is getting recognition
This is my favorite content right now. I legit look forward to Sunday for the show to post. I’ve pretty much known who the players were going to be the last few weeks and still couldn’t wait for the next show to drop. The detail on each player along with Nick’s enthusiasm. It feels like the smart guy in the barber shop hyping his favorite player. I could see how aghast he was at some of the Magic stuff and I felt the same. Just a great job. Really enjoying this. I get to talk about the guys I watched growing up all over again it’s been fun.
Until LBJ came around, people were ok with using stats to back up a debate. Stats do matter,and of course they are not the only thing. However,being the guy to try for a buzzer beater isn't the only thing either. What if player A doesn't drop 30/9/11/2/3...the buzzer will sound anti climatically. Clutch moments are so much more than at the end of a game. Anyone watching the game,and being honest,can see that there are many clutch times in every game.
Stats have alway mattered and always will. What I believe people say is that it’s per game stats that indicate who’s better, not totals. Magic is 6th in total assists yet he’s by far the best passer in NBA history, Kareem is #1 in scoring yet I could argue there’s at least 8 players that have been better scorers. The only one case that total and best are the same is Steph with 3s, but that record is not gonna hold for long because players like Trae Young, Donovan Mitchell, etc shoot so many threes that they will surpass him if they have a healthy and long career, but Steph still will be the greatest shooter even if they some they pass him.
In conclusion, stats have always mattered but not total stats.
Edit: forgot to mention that Rodman is the best rebounder of all time (he’s at least top 3 with Wilt and Bill Russell), yet he ranks 24th in all time rebounds. Another example that totals do not mean better.
@@angelaquino6755 yes that is a good point that per game stats matter. But it does also matter for the total. Being amazing at something for a long time has to matter on a ranking list. I agree that the total list is a very different stat than per game, and if you listen to his list,he only briefly mentions totals,but breaks down every year on a per game basis. Your point is understood and I partially agree. Both matter and carry different weight toward different argument
@@paulrancourt9925 Nick specifically addresses this when talking about Dwade the 3rd best 2 guard of all time. He doesn't have the career totals but he is clearly a top 20 player.
@@shamidullah1 yes, and that is why any good, well thought out list will have an inclusion of per game and totals. If D Wade had stayed at his best for longer without the injuries and such,he might be higher than 20. Enjoyed your feedback
Ah please specify which type of stats because per game stats has always been use what people push back on is the total numbers. The only stats that matter is per game averages
Yes Nick got it right this week. Big fan of Duncan and Magic.
Kobe!!!! Lol
Great job! I've loved getting to watch this series
This is why Nick top notch in the sports talk world. This is detailed as it should be. THIS is how you talk sports💪🏽🤙🏽
Have loved the journey to your top 3 and can’t wait to see where you land and the justification for the absolute crème de la crème over the next 3 weeks.
Nick great job bruh i love the list
Fantastic episode. It's very true Magic might be the true GOAT if he wasn't out of the league due to his diagnosis. Absolutely great all around player.
Skip and Shannon HAVE to be the callers for Jordan and Lebron
Never going to happen but it would be nice
I honestly didn't know Duncan was that good. He was so humble and nothing about his play really jumped out at you
He wasn’t that good. People who actually watched him play knows that
@@1YpsiBoi Lol yes he was
@@1YpsiBoi you bugging 🤣
I've been waiting on this! Thank you! This series is so good and your rankings are so on the money except for Luka of course.
His luka take is wild😂😂
I love that everyone is praising most of the rankings and all the work he put into it but nobody agrees with him on Luka lmao
@@connorbrennan4631 I 100% agree with him about Luka.
Luka will easily be a top 10 to 15 player ever maybe higher so it’s not that insane to have him
On here
@@carlosacosta4957 for sure but he isn't yet😂
Duncan and Magic
I think Nick has Jordan 3, Kareem 2 and Bron 1…… Can’t wait until next Sunday lmao
I think he said on First Things First a while back that there's an argument for Jordan to be 3rd. So you're probably right.
Great job Nick.
Thanks!
Nick low key foreshadowing Michael Jordan at no 3 and will break the internet 😂
It will break it more if he somehow has Jordan at #1 after all these years of bashing him lol
:)))))))
Love how much work he's put into this. He and I do not agree on the top 10, but I understand his position after listening,and I respect him a little more after hearing his thoughts on all these players.
He's done serious homework
Except on Luka. There’s no defending that
@@ericdupree8603 lmao facts
What work? He read off a bunch of stats. He didn't analyze any games. FOH
@@genofalconejr5717 geno..you sound angry buddy. Take it easy lol
Based on what Nick said at the end. I'm almost certain he has Jordan at 3.
Agreed. My guess he has LeBron at 1, Kareem at 2, and Jordan at 3.
yeah its either gonna be Jordan or the surprise is that its Lebron since everyone knows he's such a big Lebron guy. Maybe he's gonna pull the argument of his career isn't over yet or something like that. But seeing as how Nick seems to put Jordan's legacy down whenever he can, wouldn't be surprised LMAO
If he put jordan at 3 , lebron 2, kareem 1 im fine with, but if he put jordan 3 and lebron 1, ooooh man it’s gonna be wild lol
@@XTheGamer101X that's what it's gonna be
Nah if u look at accolades and winning jordans on another planet 🌏.. He more then likely got bron at 3
Imagine this being a big work and Jordan not even being on the list
He's gonna be 2 on the list, pretty obvious.
Love this series Nick looking forward to your next special episode saga this is A can’t miss collection
He's seriously gonna put Jordan at 3 next week 🤦🏻♂️
lol Nick hates him so much
Even watching highlights now I still don’t understand how magic made those no-looks seem so easy lol.
He previously looked..lol not hard
@@xavierb9061 this is the dumbest comment lmao. How tf would he have looked previously with 5 world class athletes running at full speed up the court? He watched film and knew basketball. He knew where his teammates would be
@@joshfincham8678 lol he saw..looked away and passed..easy lol
@@xavierb9061 just stop you casual. It’s not that easy.
@@TheNFLPick6 scarborough 20 mil
Have to use this space to thank Nick (maybe sarcastically, maybe not) for getting me into Wimbledon. I’m watching the final, the Aussie is the most entertaining tennis player I’ve ever seen 😂
Krygios is hilarious man.
Nick, I did see Magic in real-time, and he was all that and more! I already think he is in the GOAT conversation. Is he the GOAT...No. However, an argument for him to be the GOAT certainly has merit!
Nick Wright is one of the best in the business, but this top 50 presentation would be much more effective if he gave us a brief general overview of their playoff numbers and then spent the majority of the segment getting into the nuance of what made this player so good, or why you have this player over this player. The stories and context are more important/interesting than reciting dozens and dozens of playoff stats.
That's cause he doesn't know anything but numbers. Guy is a clown. He is wrong more then anyone on TV but yet sheep listen to him like his word is gospel
Objectivity and facts are is forte and his style. Leave the subjectivity to the barber shops.
15x all defense is so underrated considering bro was dropping 20+ and 11+ basically his entire career
So was Kg, without the hall of famers
@@1YpsiBoi nah kg got 12 and duncan got 15 idk what u on lmfao just straight up wrong
Completely false. He did that only for his first 8 years in the league. His stats are literally trash in comparison to the rest of the top 10.
In 1989, Hurricane Hugo caused massive damage in the Caribbean, some $11 billion. Among the structures destroyed was the only Olympic-sized swimming pool on the island of Saint Croix, which ended the swimming career of a ninth-grader on the island. Instead, the young man took up another sport: basketball. The kid, named Tim Duncan, ended up becoming one of the greatest NBA players of all time, winning multiple championships and getting inducted into the Basketball Hall of Fame in 2020.
Duncan then Magic. Three is interesting, I wouldn’t put it past Nick to make it Jordan but that’s a bad viewership move. I think Kareem gets his own episode at 3 and 2/1 is a full hour discussion before placing LeBron at 1.
Jordan will be 3. On the contrary, it's a brilliant move for viewership cause it's antagonizing and obviously wrong. However, Nick is a wordsmith and it's his list so he'll make it work.
Tim Duncan is my favorite athlete ever… the 2014 Spurs that came back after having their hearts ripped out is one of the most amazing things I’ve ever witnessed. And yeah, 3 titles in 3 different decades and the best teammate ever.
Hall of famers with him the entire way. Never went back to back. Wasn’t a top 2 player for all his rings. The most overrated player of all time
@@1YpsiBoi what did Tim Duncan do to you lmao? he was the clear best player for 4 rings, only other players on the list that can say that are Lebron and Jordan. Parker and Manu are only hall-of-famers because they played with him, and they aren't even on the top 75 list--meanwhile Jordan, Kareem, Magic, Shaq and Bird never won titles without another player on this top 50 list. Lebron did it once and Kobe twice but they still had teammates comparable to Parker and Manu. Duncan had a great coach and very good teammates yes, but he never had superstar teammates, he had an old David Robinson, a young Kawhi Leonard, and Parker and Manu who were great but not on the same level as these other names. It was Duncan and Pop that made the Spurs what they were.
@@1YpsiBoi TY
@@1YpsiBoi someone sounds like a biiiiitter kobe fan - you can pretty much say the "hall of famers" garbage take for anybody...literally anybody, save for one or two. "wasn't a top 2 player for all his rings"...do you mean on his own team, or factoring in both teams? bc...idk what spurs games you watched but he was 1000% a top 2 spur - interesting stuff tho
Nobody said anything about Kobe weirdo he wasn’t a top 2 player on neither team for his last rings. There’s levels to greatness
That ending was Nick telling us that he put Jordan at #3
If he dug as much as he did and consider playoff performances i dint see How jordan cant be at least 2 but im excoted to see how he does it if that is true
I was hoping we would get a call for Breadle! One thing about new media (lol) that I love is that Nick and company can be independent contractors regardless of company! #LosSpurs
Awesome take
I do like how objective this list has been up until this point. Curious if it will stay that way. I like how he's explaining what made player A great without tearing player B down. We need more of that. Ironically by himself lol.
Other than Luka lol
Do Kareem and Magic lose points for winning mostly with each other? I agree they should both be Top 5 but people hate on Kobe and Shaq for needing each other. Same for KD/Steph needing each other. Or even Lebron + (insert teammate here). But I never hear people using that against Kareem or Magic.
Fr, also nobody ever talks about Kareem only having 2 fmvps
@@kvonmenifee1863 yah or Kareem and Magic being 6-4 and 5-4 in Finals losing almost as much as they won. (If Steph was 5-4 in Finals he'd get way more hate today and people would say he's not a winner like Magic)
@@soulslayer434 People today are stupid. It doesn't mean we should revise our opinion of Magic.
@@kvonmenifee1863 Shaq and Kobe would probably be a bit higher if they hadn't let their egos collide and get in the way of further success. I do think Kobe should be 5 and Shaq 7 or 8 on this list.
@@soulslayer434 the argument that its better to be 6-0 in the finals than 6-4 is dumb AF. you're literally just penalizing people for getting further in the playoffs. Jordan lost just as much as Kareem he just lost in the earlier rounds instead of the finals.
I got my popcorn ready for the comments next week. Already know a lot of stans are gonna be in their feelings 😂😭
Nick is always Wright
Glad somebody showing some recognition for Tim Duncan. I feel like he's always left under the radar because of how quiet he is
The regular season and the playoffs used to be so thrilling in the 2000’s with the spurs lakers mavs nets rockets suns sonics. There were so many superstars throughout the league and they played hard every game and more often
*Kings
Don't forget the kings
Magic’s averages would be ridiculous on NBA 2K. The fact he was doing all that in real life doesn’t get spoken about enough, despite his unquestioned legendary status
I knew duncan was good but those box scores from 98 to 2006 were just ridiculous.
Nick failed to mention that in 03 Duncan won a title averaging 11 more PPG than his next best scorer who was a 20 year old Parker averaging 13/3 on absurdly bad 37/29/71 shooting splits.
Not only was he the best defender in basketball, he could carry a mediocre offence to titles. Outscored his next best teammate more than Shaq or Kobe ever did for a title run
The list is interesting but it would be sweet if analysts could talk about players' skillsets without just listing a bunch of numbers from basketball reference. Anyone can look up WHAT someone did, but not WHY someone was a better shooter, passer, ball-handler etc. than their peers.
We definitely need a super cut version after it's all over
He will put Jordan #3, Kareem #2, Lebron #1. It's such a shame to destroy an otherwise great list due to his bias. He will manage to get the order completly wrong. #ListMeaningless :/
The ending of this smells like he’s going to put Jordan at 3 🤦
I wouldn't b surprised. Kareem N especially 🐐 James that gud.
Duncan is unique because you can argue him high as #2 or within reason low as 7 to 9 . This. Is a good ranking tho I have Kobe ahead of him I understand the argument..
Very objective points and totally correct, I have Duncan over Kobe but you’re right that he can be argued either way
@@hardwoodthought1213 absolutely it can I completely understand someone having Duncan over Kobe it’s even a good argument for him over Lebron although I also have Lebron ahead of him
Nobody ever thought that Duncan was on Kobe level when they were playing. You would NEVER think that if you actually watched Duncan play
LETS GO NICK!
Only if Magic had been for more years, absolutely GOAT 🐐 numbers
Magic would have had to beat the Jordan Bulls first three peat team in the finals for that to count
Finally someone put the proper respect to Magics career. And properly contextualize how good he still was when his career was cut short. And remember Nick had to "gloss" over so much.
Nick puts guys like skip bayless to absolute shame. He speaks substance not BS.
Crazy part is that you could make a case for any of the top 3 remaining to be number one
That's exactly where I have Tim Duncan as well number 5 of all time. Tim was a consistent leader great defender and passer, consistent scorer and knew how to play with lesser talented players. Greatest Power forward of all time.
I put Kobe before him but not by much tim Duncan deserves far more respect
Absolutely no issues with Duncan and Magic being 5 and 4. Duncan's numbers in the second half of his career demonstrate his leadership and team attitude not a loss in ability. He was still easily the best player on the team, even in '14. He won playing on bruising defensive teams. He won playing on one of the most beautiful ball movement, team centric offenses ever seen. And he won all the way through the transition from one to the other as the unquestioned leader and best player. His final season his team was winning 67 games. He didn't take a retirement tour and chuck up 50 shots to score 60 points in his final game. He was too busy winning and stepped away quietly when he finally couldn't anymore.
Nick gonna bave Jordan at #3 and its gonna make his Luka placement seem like a more reasonable choice
Duncan has a very good argument to be number 1 all time but people ain’t ready for that conversation
Duncan's such a fkn beast. The most humble as well.
Nobody ever thought of him as a beast when he was playing
The biggest plottwist would be if Nick doesn’t have Lebron as number 1 😂
Superb
When he puts Jordan at 3 everyone is gonna lose their minds and I can't wait lmaooooooo
I knew magic was good but When you lay out all the numbers for magic i think he is a little underrated
This man is literally going to get 1-3 backwards and then spend each episode explaining how he’s not a contrarian.
Nick's been pretty consistent that Lebron is #1 all time so I'm pretty sure he's putting Jordan #3, and frankly I totally agree.
How would u get LBJ over Jordan just curious...
@@Travis-tj3mj He's better. That's it.
True Grit: with age mid-20s Michael Jordan & Scottie Pippen given Magic everything he could handle, the dude competed to the end including game #5 where James Worthy & Byron Scott did not play yet the game was close to the end; ironically at this point (1991) Magic was a halfcourt assassin in the post being too powerful for one man to guard and too lethal a passer to double team plus a deadly set shot if he got an open look from distance (its actually an old school shot with almost no jump allowing increased accuracy but harder to get off against defenders luckily Magic was 6foot9inches)... fax!!!
kareem was 29/15 as a rookie lmao, he was second team all-nba, al defense second team. the bucks went from 27-55 to 56-26 and made the ECF lmao, he might be the best rookie ever
My Top 5 will be a touch different than Nick’s list
5.Magic 4.Duncan 3. Kareem 2. Lebron 1. Jordan
Nick! Hoping you read these. I trust your artistic vision, but you're building up something great here. Give "Making the Case" by Clayton Crowley a watch. To me, you're gonna be competing with that guy for best GOAT discourse on CZcams!
Bill and wilts competition is severely underated
There's a lot of confusion around Bill Russell. You play to win there game and no one won more than Russell, Russell crushed Wilt every time they went head to head, Russell won almost every game 7 he was in, highest Def Win shares/greatest Defender in NBA history. He was Duncan, before Duncan and he beat Wilt and Jerry West in game 7 of the 1969 Final gm7 while being the player-coach!!!
Don’t lie, Russell did not crush wilt every time they played. Wilt beat him statistically most times, and recorded his 55 rebound game against Russell
yea... but the big BUT is pretty big. how many teams where there? in what era was it? it was an era that shooting 2s at a 40% field goal was seen like the greatest thing.
How Magic and Kareem don’t get the same criticism that Kobe n Shaq get for the accomplishments without each other. Magic never won without Kareem, Kobe won without Shaq and vice versa.
Kareem won a title without Magic, Magic never won a chip without Kareem.
He's gonna have Jordan #3.
He's gonna put Kareem at #2 for longevity... I'm predicting this before seeing this episode.
this guy cant pay thos who got the list right on his 1k dollar contest. thats why hes gonna put jordan at 3. what a troll move
Kareem should be #1
@@tyjohnson3111 In my list he is not even better than magic. Magic was the engine on that laker team
forget the 6 regular season mvps jordan got 5. its more or less a wash. Kareem won 6 rings but only won 2 finals mvp. no waaaay hes the goat
@@gbreezy6405
And Kareem was the backbone of the team…who was the primary scoring option and backline defender.
Did Magic ever reached the level of a 2-way player Kareem was? Don’t be foolish.
That final quote got me to second guess myself but I really think it’ll be 1 lebron 2 Jordan 3 kareem
Nope Kareem 1 Jordan 2 and bron 3 even though I think bron is best all time bron’s carrier ain’t over but rest guys are all over
I’ll help you guys out. Nick Wright’s NBA Top 5 All-Time:
1. LeBron Raymond James
2. Michael Jeffrey Jordan
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Irvin Magic Johnson
5. Timothy Duncan
Nick. The blasphemy!!!!!! Lol. Kobe Bean Bryant is top 5 but that’s another story. I do like your breakdown. 💯
Nah Kobe isn’t top 5, his resume and impact doesn’t stack up to those 5
These two can go any of the 2 positions for me,, magic was magical,, but Timmy was heavy in a silent kinda way,, but heavy
Kobe is my all time favorite player. But Tim Duncan had the more consistently successful career! I watched him throughout his career and he is criminally underrated!
Lmao because tony & manu who extend tim duncans run 🤔more success they both have 5 rings last i check kawhi n tony won the last two rings for tim
Nick has the right top 5, but my order is a little different...I flip flop Jordan and Kareem and I flip flop Duncan and Magic. Honestly I’ve always had in that order.
Where can you watch playoff games of old of you pay for it?
Magics numbers r crazy
Based on what he mentioned about his 1-3 ranks, and his past takes on other shows, I’m going to confidently assume that he has Michael at #3, with Kareem at #2 and LeBron at #1.
I really hope not but I think it will be
Tim Duncan has 5 rings, equal with magic, able to tie magic, toe to toe with a standstill… oh and thats with Kareem helping magic. So how exactly are they ahead of Duncan??? He literally tied them by himself vs both of them together 🤦♂️
By himself? Did Robinson, Parker, Genobili & Kawhi all cease to exist?
That is because the teams timmy beat in the finals were so so..the knicks in 99..the nets in 03..dtroit pistons in 05..the laughable cavs..even with lebron in 07..likewise the heat in 14..even the previous year..it was a combination of stupidity on the part of popovich, the missed free throws in the closing minute..the clutch 3 of allen to force an overtime due to lapses ..
Are arguing difficulty of schedule on Duncan? How many times did he have to go against the Lakers and Dirk? I just think that take is weak sauce.
@@UShouldLaugh ok Tim played better teams in the western conference. But the Lakers of the 80s played the best teams in the finals compared to any other great teams, in the history of the league. The early 80s Doc's 6ers, Bird's Celts, Zekes Pistons and the young Bulls. No one had to play teams in the finals of this caliber!!!
@@antoniouy9704Spurs did beat Detroit who was a defending champ (knocked the Lakers off). Also, Miami another defending champ had two titles. You can also throw the Lakers in as they were three time champs. So who did Duncan beat? The best during those moments.
Duncan had to be 5 (spurs fan here). It’s Magic or Kareem at 4/3 most likely Magic at 4 and Kareem at 3.
nah Jordan will be #3
He should be below Shaq and Kobe.Used to get destroyed by Kobe post shaq too
@@vincewilson8969 lol ok
Nick brings up an interesting point if magic never got the hiv diagnosis he might have been higher than Jordan.
Jordan got pretty insanely lucky in terms of ascending right as the three best teams of the 80's all got old at the same time. Also a real shame we never got to see Kareem, even old Kareem, in a finals against Jordan, having 3 of the 5 best players of all time in a finals together.
@@USALeonHeart truth
Love the list but I have a funny feeling I’m going to strongly disagree with 1-3 but I’m excited to see the rest of the list nonetheless
Jordan is going to be 3, watch
Yeah, it’s gonna. Be Jordan Kareem Lebron
If Jordan isn't 1 this whole list is wrong period
@@parthverma9294 It’s going to be Jordan-Lebron-Kareem from 3 to 1. Kind of avoids controversy that way
@@josephsanchez5987 wrong, deal with it.
People forget Kobe had the deepest teams to work with which is why he only has 2 finals MVPs. And I'm not even mentioning the best coach ever and a commissioner that fixed games for the Lakers.
I think Duncan went from Nike to Adidas around 09 that caused him to have plantarfasciitis, so i think that's why he dipped in performance 09-11, i might be wrong tho
sorry Nick but I can easily make a case for Duncan being ahead of Magic and Kareem. The list is long, but put it this way. 5 of Kareem's titles and all of Magics titles came with each other, as well as other stars like Worthy. So that's two top 5 players on the same team in the 80s West which was weak.
Duncan did the following:
-Won 3 titles without an all nba teammate (record)
-Won 2 titles without an all star teammate (T-record)
-Won 4 titles without a teammate average more than 16ppg that season (record)
-Won all 5 titles without a single top 75 player in their prime
And he did it in the killer west, maybe the hardest conference the NBA has ever seen.
Also vs Magic, besides passing, Duncan is the much better scorer, rebounder and 100x better defender, and has a case for greatest defender ever in modern basketball.
Vs kareem, remember 70s and 80s was a much faster pace. If we go by per 100 possession stats, Duncan actually has better numbers than Kareem over their careers. And Kareem only won a single title in the weak 70s, and his MVP competition was incredibly weak vs any other era.
Duncan can and should be 3rd all time.
I'd have Duncan over Magic, but I do think these are the 4th and 5th best of the last 50
Jordan at 3 next week just to stir up some controversy and then on first take & undisputed all week it's gonna be Jordan and LeBron segments 😂
Nick it would be awesome if you went 3. Jordan 2. James 1. KAJ!!
I think that's what he's going to do. When I first heard about the list I figured he would go Jordan Kareem LeBron but after the end of this video I think you are right
Him having Jordan at 3 which I know he will is making my stomach in knots
Tim Duncan and magic Johnson
Magic was a video game in the playoffs