Customer states "CSW DID TIMING BELT NOW WILL NOT START!?"🤔😨🤬😉
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- čas přidán 4. 03. 2022
- Hey guys, today we have a 2004 Lexus Ls430 that we are replacing a timing belt and water pump. We take it up top to look around and we go through some tips and tricks when performing a timing belt service. SOMETHING WENT WRONG! ENGINE WILL NOT START AFTER TIMING BELT REPLACED! CSW made a slight GOOMBA move? Enjoy!
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Most impressive is that he is doing the job with the efficiency standard the dealer wants while making these videos
You’re the epitome of what a good mechanic in a dealership looks like and a good role model as well, very good!!
Do you watch 1a auto on youtube
A dealer in FL did this service on my 4.7L and forgot to route the harness to the crank sensor properly. The belt eventually cut through the wires and left me stranded a month after the service. Goombas are everywhere! At least you caught it.
I have a love/hate for all timing kit changes. They're always massively anxiety inducing to triple check that everything's lined up but man. When you turn it over, the anxiety disappears & comes a wash of god damn joy hearing that the vehicle is actually running so smooth. Awesome job CSW
Crapped myself last time I did mine and the engine didn't start , luckily I had just missed plugging a multiplug in , big phew moment when it started.
I love how you are not afraid to show your mistakes. Another excellent job!
Right on, Man. The world needs more skilled, honest auto techs. Keep up the good work. The new guys are watching and learning from you.
I have the same car, mechanics denied this job because it's too risky...
I work on cars and trucks all day and then i come home and watch dudes working on cars. Mostly because i like to learn but i also enjoy the banter. Keep up the good work
all finished after a complex job and...no start. Heart drops and the thoughts roll to the drum beat of "Oh crap what did I forget" lol.
THANK YOU!!!!You are the first mechanic on CZcams that I have seen protect the radiator while working on the front of the engine.
This is honestly news to me. Being in the aftermarket world, my rule of thumb on first inspection is "plastic cover, timing belt. Aluminum cover, chain." Seeing you pull the aluminum cover to expose a belt is honestly something I've never seen before! love it.
Forever I assumed Mazda MX-5 (Miata) had a timing chain, having seen enough engine photos of them. then I owned one... it's a belt. You'd never know by looking at it.
What a PITA! OMG. Thanks for taking us along for your ride!
I am always amazed on critical parts replacement that customers spec aftermarket parts.
Apparently someone already made the goomba move of hitting the radiator already. LOL! Keep up the good work!
You have to remove the a/c compressor on the 3.5l 2grfe to get the belt tensioner off aswell, but at least it has a timing chain!
that motor looks a lot like the 2uz-fe on a tundra, just a 4.7 instead of a 4.3. A customer changed his own timing belt, but when he was re-installing everything he munched the CKP sensor and shorted it out.
Nice to see all of the important components included in that NAPA kit. That engine should outlive the rest of the car now. Of course all of the external accessories will go for a crap but the engine should keep on ticking. Nice to see how its done.
Looked pretty good for a 2004! Most cars this old are moving piles of favor at this point!
I have an '03 ES300 with 220K, and is like new, minus some very minor battle scars on the body. Toyota builds their cars with pride and great workmanship.
@@jamesb8305 I had an '05 Durango before my Audi, and the favor was strong with it. lol
@@jamesb8305 My 2001 Toyota P/U has 217k miles is the same . It has been maintained and no rust at all . One good thing about living in the south and away from the ocean salt water and salt covered snowy roads .
Third times a charm had no doubt it was gonna start on this take well done and another happy customer….
In other words, they threw a timing belt onto the assembly line and built a Lexus around it.
"Take 3............Please Start?" I think we've all been there
I feel the anxiety on 1st start up. My Gx470 was having cooling issues 3 days before Christmas. I knew I was getting close enough to the 90k mark so I did the job in my shop. That 1st start up always scares the hell out of me. I turned it over just as many times as you and still I prayed to every higher power that it starts hahaha. I've done these multiple times, that feeling just doesn't go away I guess. Great video as always.
me too when I did my first timing job on my own acura tl, I let it ran over an hour to make sure it didnt leak haha
"Japanese metal doesn't rust as fast as German metal."
Truth
Your videos and the rain man ray are most entertaining and informative automotive videos on the CZcamss, thanks
Pesky engine grounds, I forgot the little brown ecu ground on an audi, the cluster said "push clutch to start engine", and it was an automatic 😵
Cluster: TILT!!
Uncle Remus said it is a year latter and still fun. Cheers!
Even after triple checking I accidentally left an earth strap off after an engine rebuild, the first crank to build oil pressure used the fuel injector earths for cranking current. The wires got very hot, the insulation very crispy.
That's a terrible design.
glad i hate engines with timing belts ,,none in my car collection ...you do very good work
love these vids brother, great info as always
Very good, I learned some more things I didn't know! Thumbs up!
I wonder how many people would be shocked that a dealer doesn't use OEM parts all the time, I think if they knew they'd be pretty pissed off.
With the amount of disassembly you had to do just to get to the timing belt, you’d think the 4 rings designed the engine compartment 🤣 As always, great job!
If you're lucky the studs come out with the nuts on the PS pump and alternator when removing the idler to save you from removing those items. Lol
10:42 is gold 🤣 great video 👍
Customer- "I need a new timing belt"
Mechanic- proceeds to disassemble the entire engine
Two Tacoma manuals advise against DIY timing belt replacement, unless you already know the procedure. ($280 labor plus parts).
Damn, what a pain of a job to replace the timing belt! How many hours of labor?
I bet the failure to restart was a HMMMMMM moment or 2 for you, enjoyed seeing this longer video mate love your work your professional attitude and your dedication.
Keep safe Keep Strong Hugs from Australia
Ya goombah! HAHAHA!!! Glad you got it sorted. Great work, sir!
I forgot to tighten down my ground bolt on my Acura last week doing the same job. My mistake was worse because the ground was on top right in my face. Apparently telling yourself not to forget to tighten the ground a thousand times isn’t as effective as I would have liked. 😂😂😂
Crazy that some places require such a deep inspection on cars! I've only lived in 2 states and one I didn't even need an emission test, the other just checks emission and for codes but nothing physical of the car - no tires, no cracked windows, no inspecting of anything beyond digital data 🤷♀️
Most of Europe the inspection is far stricter than it appears to be anywhere in the USA. Wheel bearing like that would be an instant fail.
Those inspections are useless. It's just another money making machine the corrupt states use.
@@bikerz3857 Never mind about breathable air or vehicle safety, it's a conspiracy, I tell ya! Next thing they'll want us to wear masks durin' a pandemic or sumtin'!
Would you get on an aircraft where there was no reasonable level of inspection?
@@katywalker8322 I would NEVER get on an aircraft built to STATE standards as I bet they would make them lower than federal standards. And yeah, they should be inspected with as much detail and precision as we see with the tech behind CSW? going over the cars in his care.
My car, however, doesn't transport hundreds of people at one time, have an entire board of buttons/switches, and require years of training to maneuver properly, but I would like to see more inspections performed on vehicles in the south, and especially more scrutiny put on drivers down that way since so many of them drive like they won their license out of a cracker jack box. I still don't understand how my insurance was so cheap when I lived there despite all the bumpers that litter the side of the expressways in the Atlanta metro...?
I'm doing this exact job on Tuesday. Thanks for the video.
One of the best cars you can buy with money….
So... how many radiators got a hole punched in them before you learned the cardboard trick? 😀 Seriously, I'm always impressed at how thorough you are with these repairs. And that engine sounds better than many do brand new, and it's got 250k miles? As far as the goomba move on the start attempts, I've done plenty of major repairs on IT equipment, pushed the power button and... nothing. Or it powers up with all kinds of errors. D'oh! Forgot that one connector!
I personally have done it twice in 16 years. Both doing recalls.
Pushes button. It doesn't work. Plugged in? NOPE! DOH!! Done it a couple of times doing computer work over the years. As an old rule goes: It works better if you plug it in. I also wen to a service call where somebody disconnected a power cord from an outlet under a desk ("Excuse me, Miss, I'll need to get under your desk for a minute to check out your legs...power cords!")
I have this exact car, did the first timing belt in December at 120K.
NAPA belt kit looked like a reboxed Gates kit, which is good. NTN bearings/ idlers, probably OE. Water pump looked like an Aisin, also OE. These lower volume engines, typically it isn't cost effective for the aftermarket to tool up for parts, so they just source OE direct from the manufacturers.
“CONTACT” 😃 for variety try “CLEAR PROP” for another aviation touch!
Love the inclusion of the ‘Goombah’ moments. 🍺
Great video and I really appreciate the details you share!
My first car was a '77 VW Rabbit. The EA827 engine in this car debuted in 1972 and versions of it are still produced to this day. I've had several, to include a Porsche 928 with the "Gilmer" belt SOHC setup. I know the advantages of sound and lack of lubrication are good things, but these HAVE to be changed eventually and the notion that a piece of rubber is keeping the valves from hitting the pistons and thus destroying the engine to the tune of $8000 has always bothered me. I'll buy cars with Gilmer belts but I don't like the idea; My current two cars both have flat 6 engines and both have chain driven DOHC heads. I prefer chains.
Just done an a4 b6 2.5tdi similar but looks a harder that one,great job guys 👌
"Ask me how I know".....lol Thanks for the Eagles background music!!
Brings back memories of when I had to rebuild one, boss took care of the American & I the imports expensive rebuild. Good days in the car quest machine shop
Howzit from South Africa love your work and videos!
That was almost "grounds" for dismissal. Nice job.
Great work! I’ve done a good number of tbelts for a DIYer and this one looks like a pita with all the accessories that have to come off. I am surprised to see so much aftermarket parts in use. I personally would have gone OEM or maybe an Aisin kit. Surprised your dealer doesn’t force OEM.
It needs to be done that day.
Aisin kits are the way to Go.
@@artvance8251 are Aisin kits only for Toyota/Lexus products or for Honda’s, too?
@@axjohn No Aisin makes them for a lot of cars. I used one on our Honda Pilot (J35) for example.
You want to see a pain in the ass? Replace the timing chains on a 1997 Ford Mustang Cobra with a 4.6 liter D.O.H.C. mod motor... 😵
I won't do that again.
U R the GOOMBA!!!! Good times! You learn from your mistakes!
Great job! Those jobs are nightmares! My brother did his kia and the belt slipped off after the install, jumped timing ruined the motor after a few 1,000 miles.
I have that same anxiety with every timing belt job, even ones I've done tons of, and even after turning over 2-4 times, as well.
0:48 - Don Henley coming for yo ass, CSW!!
I just did the timing belt on my 03 lexus ls430. You didn't need to unbolt the power steering pump. 😊
That’s so weird to see toilet using a aluminum cover on a belt driven valve train most of the manufactures if not all of them have plastic covers or plastic inspection covers
Goto say it you said Chain Tensioner that woke me up!
Great tip on protecting the radiator. Ask me how I know....
How do you know?
CSW Thank you for leaving in the goof up's. I saw the battery cable and was yelling "Hey you guys!'" like in the goonies, and said I bet he forgot that and the engines ground plus I would have myself, ask me how I know? lol Good job brother, and what a beauty of a car with that many miles. :)
Nice job , but like you I would have installed OE parts . Thanks for the video
Keep up the good work sir nice longer vid for the weekend
at least you are honest. good video
On those engines you're supposed to set the timing of the cams to the " T " mark, that way you're not risking to go against the spring pressure and one or both cams can rotate suddenly with the T-belt removed...thus potentially hitting the valves and bend them...
I was gonna mention this and saw that you did. Awesome. So guys Nick is spot on with his response. At 6:21 in the video you can see the technician trying to realign the marks and how "touchy" it appeared to to do so due to the "springiness" at that point. Once you get the new belt on you could the roatate back to the three alignment marks ( two cams, one crank ) as a double check!
The tension on the cam from the valve springs will NOT "bend valves" if the cam turns with the timing belt off. There isn't NEARLY enough spring pressure there to do that.. 😕
Nice work sir!!!
Great video! Thank god it started :D
Hey..some days you just aren't as "well grounded" as others😁
Hopefully one day you will get in to service a ISF! The 2URGSE that’s a chain driven versus belt right?
CSW: "It's through the hole! It's through the hole!"
Bill Murray from "Caddyshack" smiles.
(12 seconds later....)
CSW: "All right, you bastard, fire, fire, fire!"
(from the movie "Marooned")
Imagining ur expression once the car started ✌️👌✌️✌️👌✌️👌✌️👌✌️
Yeah!!!!! It started..... Good job. I think that I might be able to do that job with your tutorial as an aid. Might take me a week though.... Uhhhhhhh, think I’ll just take it to my mechanic.....
NO engine ground - "You Goomba" All kidding aside a great and informative video. "Very Good"
The radiator. Hahahaha. Been there! Lol
Great video! I have an '03 4runner with the 4.7l V8 2UR-FE. Have you ever had any of these engines come in with a broken T-belt? I've heard some people say the non-VVTI 2UR-FE engines are non-interference. I wanted to get your thoughts on that.
Giggity !!! 😂
The proper flow of electrons ceased to exist in your particular stall! Good catch
Back in the day Napa used to mean Need another part ASAP. A lot of other parts failed quickly back in the day but they improved since then.
Anytime I change a timing chain or belt I get BAD anxiety too.
Man I thought the timing job on a Ford 5.4/4.6 was a big job, this looks no easier.
Keep the oil clean on those engines and the chain will last a long time.
@@davestout844 Define "Long Time" for a 3V 5.4.
Thank God I’m only into 4 cylinders engine, much simplified
So, you joined the third time is a charm club. Congrats from an old wrench turner. Where do I send the certificate?
I did a ton of these in my day, nice money-maker. You could do two a day easily. NAPA kits is what I used too
It looks almost the same as my 2uzfe. The Tbelt service was pretty straightforward. I had the water leak through the peep hole, too.
You didn't show the penis shaped water pump gasket, so I imagine it's different than the 2uzfe.
It's an almost identical service as the 3UZ-FE in the LS430 uses the exact same timing belt/water pump kit as the 2UZ-FE.
It's not a peep hole....
Gotta be a commercial vehicle in jersey to fail for that. Inspection is a joke here have cars roll through with engine light on and just want it fixed with bald ass tires and frt end play and pass
Is a mistake really a mistake if you learn and apply what you learned from it(oh and nobody got hurt)?
Nice job buddy.
The UZ engines are quality we will probably never see again.
Great job
We all go through the goobah moves! That's the great thing about being human!
Ground control to major CSW!
"Tightening ground clamp (5...)
batt terminals on (4...3...2)
Check ignition (1...)
and may God's love (liftoff!)
be with you!....
(David Bowie's 'Space Oddity")
Great video
That GOOMBA move at the end, as a service writer will give you GRAY HAIRS FAST! Glad I'm out of the business!
The 460 is a hell of a car.
Great save ! Just tell everyone it was an experiment.
Excellent!
Now you know where to hook up the secret switch!!!
Giggidy,yeah he AWLLLRIGHT🤭
Car is in great condition for a quarter mil. on the odo. Probably all original too. You can't beat toyota. Period.
On my 1mz-fe I had a squeaking gates timingbelt. It was only 5k miles old. Replaced it with an oem toyota one and the noise was gone.