The bust of Cleopatra VII is often deemed unattractive by some, primarily due to its deviation from her romanticized portrayal as a legendary beauty. This view typically arises from the disparity between historical artifacts and their idealized representations in films and literature. In my view, the AI rendition of Cleopatra VII's bust alters this perception significantly.
If you look at her bust, the sculptor clearly made her shirt sheer. I noticed the AI did not have so much courage 😂 Patrician women of this era were known for preferring silk, in part specifically because it was sheer. Contemporary historians literally say it, lol
This is an easily disprovable myth. The Christ Pantocrator style of iconography has been the most common way to depict Christ in Europe and the Middle East since the 6th century, predating Cesare Borgia by almost a millenia.
The Vibia Sabina in this video is the daughter of Marcus Aurelius and sister of Commodus not the wife of Hadrian. Also Commodus was said to have blond hair, yet here his sister is quite swarthy. Good job AI, learning our stereotypes. Good job content creator, perfect amount of research for CZcams; none.
Marvelous work! Have you considered any reconstructions of great 19th century musicians like Franz Liszt, Anton Rubinstein, Louis Moreau Gottschalk, etc? There is plenty of black and white photographic source but no video.
I want to see JS Bach, though I think that one is fairly straight-forward. All the great composers would be awesome. Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Liszt, Chopin... And so on.
There must be another channel doing them. If not, you can do these yourself too. The tools are available online, you just gotta figure out how to use em. You could make money doing that.
@@rtam7097 I'm not that familiar with them as I don't make AI videos, but you can research this easily. Some of these channels with AI trailers for example also have videos where they explain how they do what they do. Search on CZcams, "how to make AI trailers" or "how to make AI faces from bust" or something, you'll find things. Try Google if YT doesn't turn it up. I've watched a couple of these before. New tools are being released and refined all the time. These are usually just web sites, you go there, pay a little money for computation time, and can have AI generate all kinds of things, up to and including video.
VR.... "A Tour Through History" That would be amazing. Also to see all the old cities and houses in their former glory, with gardens and water, not just archaeological excavations.
Mit dieser Technik bekommen Statuen so etwas wie Charakter. Man könnte daraus schon fast Sympathie bekommen. Das ist fantastisch und zugleich erschreckend, wie mit künstlicher Intelligenz manipuliert werden kann. Wir Menschen müssen uns unbedingt unsere Sinne schärfen!
Catholic Church used him to model for Jesus. That's why. And now the whole western world thinks Jesus looked like that, when in fact Jesus certainly looked a lot more like someone living in Gaza.
L'A.I li riproduce secondo gli stereotipi moderni..non credo avessero volti così puliti e delicati..I volti di allora, con molta probabilità,apparivano più avvizziti e rugosi, nonostante giovani
The issue here is that a lot of human faces in works of art follow the painting or sculpting style of the time and are not necessarily accurate representations of the subjects. They are often romanticised or made to look better than they were.
Have you seen all those AI shorts and trailers? In a few more years people will be able to custom-bake their own movies. Tell the AI what you want, give it a story, or say "fill it in for me, surprise me," and look at all the resources it can draw on. There is coming a time where not all of us watch the same movie. We will be watching personalized versions of each movie, and maybe recommending some editions over others. Don't like a plot hole? Fix it. Don't like a character? Swap it out! Phantom Menace, I'm looking at YOUUUUU!!!!
Cesare Borgia is the only one I think was a bit off. His eyes were smaller, closer together, and the nose different. Other than that I thought they were excellent.
What makes you think that the sculpted people have a tan complexion? They could easily be pale. Look at Vibia Sabina. There are other sculptures of this Roman beauty where she is distinctly European
I read Cleopatra wasn't so pretty and with blond-copper hair.....she had greek roots and so i guess she was brunette,with olive complexion and dark hair
I wish you could do animations of the Romans speaking ordinary phrases in Latin, and the Italians speaking the form of Italian dialect spoken in their times and places. Oh wow Caterina Sforza resembles me although I am not even a little bit Italian. Odd. Caracalla's atrocities were one thing, but his mass citizenship grant to everyone in the borders of Rome was really the downfall of the Empire. Obviously, democrats don't study history. Or do they?
So, does this mean I have to stop referring to JD Vance as a wannabe Cleopatra? I didn't see any eyeliner/shadow at all in that image. What happened to the "my eyes are just black lines" look?
The now most popular image of “White” Jesus is actually Cesare Borgia. Pope Alexander VI was considered the most Powerful “Being” of his time (god). Thus he commissioned portraits of Cesare Borgia as “The Son of god”.
This is an easily disprovable myth. The Christ Pantocrator style of iconography is what you are referring to as “white Jesus” and has been the most common way to depict Christ in Europe and the Middle East since the 6th century, predating Cesare Borgia by almost a millenia. Please stop spreading rumors you heard on the internet.
Cleopatra was NOT black: She was a direct descendant of Ptolemy, one of Alexander the Great's generals. Ptolemy was a Macedonian, which is a northern Greek country. To claim she is black is cultural appropriation.
@alessandrom7181 Maybe he is, but there is certainly no shortage of idiots out there who would say the exact same thing and not be sarcastic at all. If he is attempting humor, then my apologies.
So now im confuse why does some pple say Cleopatra eas black she even haf red hair.and her features does nt look anything near black..And the look of that statue also doesn't look like a black woman.at all. Why is Cleopatra a black woman un the movie. Please no offence.its my personal opinion.
Because sub Saharan Africans need somebody more advanced to copy. Disney and Netflix won’t pay a fortune for to tell their real story of mud huts and eating missionaries will they?
They’re called “Afrocentrists”, and they seem to be mostly black Americans. Whites stole their culture when they were enslaved and they no longer remember it, so they want to reconstruct or replace their lost identity with something African. So far so good. HOWEVER, when they looked at West Africa (where their enslaved ancestors mainly came from) they apparently didn’t find the history and culture of those areas impressive or inspiring enough. Instead they want to claim Ancient Egypt as their cultural heritage, probably because it’s the most impressive bit of history in Africa. Ancient Egyptians, importantly, were also far more advanced and sophisticated than the ancestors of white Americans living in Europe at the time. But this only works if the Egyptians were black, which they don’t really seem to have been for the most part, but Afrocentrists reject all evidence of this as whitewashing by white historians, which is when it becomes a conspiracy theory since it’s impossible to prove anyone wrong who’s going to claim all evidence against them has been forged. For some Afrocentrists it’s also partly about getting back at the whites by erasing “white” history, which is why some of them not only claim Cleopatra and all the (Greek) Ptolemys as black, but also the Ancient Israelites, the rest of the Greeks, the Romans, and some even go as far as claiming Northern Europeans like the Vikings and Shakespeare as black etc, basically everyone was black before the slave trade started. Fighting whitewashing with blackwashing, essentially. The Afrocentrists who go that far are probably pretty fringe, but the Cleopatra thing is really mainstream, common not only among Afrocentrists but among leftoids, and it’s actually quite understandable because she’s been portrayed as more dark skinned than she probably was for such a long time, and it’s also natural for people to assume that the Queen of Egypt was a native Egyptian, only history buffs are going to know that she was part of a foreign ruling elite that didn’t mix with the locals.
She was brutal. After her husband was murdered via a conspiracy, she reacted by killing not only the conspirators, but also their wives and children in extremely brutal ways.
She wasn't blonde with blue eyes either, mate... Cleopatra was Greek through her father and of unknown origin on the mother's side, so the best bet is that she would look like Southern Greeks, Cretans or Cypriots, so basically tan skin with white make-up, big nose, brown eyes and a shit-ton of black hair. HBO's Rome depicts her in the most realistic way.
Esta IA debe tomae un cjrso de fisiognomía.. Ojos saltones como ojos profundos.. Les quitó la personalidad aplanándolos.. Hombres feos los puso hermosos.. mujeres de facciones delicadas los puso regulares.. Se trata de hacer la imagen "real" a partir de la pintura o escultura, no de darle facciones nuevas y eliminar el caracter de los rostros que se encuentra en los detalles. Lo siento.. no me gustó tanto.
La couleur de peau et de cheveux des femmes méditerranéennes de l'antiquité revèlent tes préjugés. Les egyptiennes, les grecques, les romaines ressemblent toutes à des maghrébines. Cléopâtre ressemble à une irlandaise! Il y a une grande part d'interprétation
je suis maghrébin et il n'y a pas d'uniformité dans le physique au Maghreb. une personne d'Alger est beaucoup plus blanche en moyenne qu'une personne de Marrakech.
@@Jaguar1910 je suis jijelien (nord-est de l'Algérie) et ChatGPT me donne toujours des origines turques, grecques, libanaises ou syriennes, quand je lui partage ma photo. Vous n'avez probablement jamais été en Algérie. Peut-être que vous avez une vision caricaturale du physique maghrébin.
@@user-jt8vj1vm6y Caricaturales? Mais je vois des maghrébins depuis mes six ans et j'en ai 43. Avec mes yeux pas avec une IA en carton. Et j'ai côtoyé, des libanais, des Turcs et des grecs à l'université.
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AI missed completely with Cleopatra... don't matter what they tell you in school, she was black!
But Cleopatra was Greek. Why would she be black? Think of that family as conquerors. They were installed in Egypt when Alexander the Great conquered North Africa. The Ptolemies ended up ruling Egypt, but they weren't _from_ Egypt. They weren't from Africa _at all._ And yes, this means that Cleopatra probably did not resemble her own subjects very much. She did other things to endear herself to them, such as learning their language and respecting their religion, which was unheard of for royalty at the time. She spoke a bunch of languages actually, and was very accomplished. She was also ambitious. This is why Julius Caesar fell for her. He was known for being ambitious himself. I mean, you can certainly design a version of a film or something where she's black, why not.... but that's historical fiction, not history. And I think it's really important to distinguish. Film adaptations of history historically do a terrible job of conveying actual information about history, and that isn't just true regarding Cleopatra, it applies to nearly ALL of history. I think the modern WW1/WW2 movies tend to be accurate historically, but outside of that it's a crapshoot, you really can't trust ANY of it. If you want to look for a black skinned powerful empire from history, you have to check out Nubia and the Empire of Kush. They ruled most of Africa for a really, really long time, even taking over Egypt at one point. And they were powerful. Things only started going downhill for Africa generally once Christianity was brought in (~600 CE). Make of that what you will. (edit for confirm)
That's absurd. They aren't gods. They were flesh and blood just as we are. Take away their wealth and power and the mystique is gone. For a few years they were beautiful, even stunning. Then they got old and died.
People did not look so different. Artistic stylization affected some representation, but these are only at the most 80 generations ago (80 * 25 = 2000 years).
@@PanelitaPlay5577 *I'm Coptic Descent & Have a Olive complexion with Ebony Brown hair & I'm Mediterranean by blood/DNA!* *I know who My ancestors are/looked like & They certainly weren't Brown/Black/Sub-Saharan Africans!*
Vibia Sabina blew me away. Her face struck me as being so familiar, like she could be someone I know. It melts away the thousands of years between us.
That's not Ancient Roman
The bust of Cleopatra VII is often deemed unattractive by some, primarily due to its deviation from her romanticized portrayal as a legendary beauty. This view typically arises from the disparity between historical artifacts and their idealized representations in films and literature. In my view, the AI rendition of Cleopatra VII's bust alters this perception significantly.
@@LukeLovesRose What do you mean? It's just colorization and animation of the bust.
@@johnsmithe4656 No. It's colonization with an agenda
If you look at her bust, the sculptor clearly made her shirt sheer. I noticed the AI did not have so much courage 😂
Patrician women of this era were known for preferring silk, in part specifically because it was sheer. Contemporary historians literally say it, lol
These are the sort of things kids should be watching on CZcams. Fascinating AND educational 🎉 2 big thumbs up 👍👍
Caterina Sforza is magnificent. Excellent job on all of them.
Cleopatra VII is a bonnie queen too, she is.
Oh yeah, i too like evil hot women
Wow, your Caracalla recreation is absolutely outstanding! It's truly the best I've ever seen!
Thanks again for yet another grouping of marvelous, extrapolated historical renditions! Bravo!
It's so nice when they smile.
Very impressive as always.
Cesare Borgia - the face from whom later artists patterned Jesus' face, until Robert Powell came along.
This is an easily disprovable myth. The Christ Pantocrator style of iconography has been the most common way to depict Christ in Europe and the Middle East since the 6th century, predating Cesare Borgia by almost a millenia.
Never imagined Queen Zenobia would look so beautiful. The Dame of Palmyra!
Zenobia had quite the raw sex appeal.
But I thought cleopatra was not pretty but was known for being beautiful for her personality
thought this was a little generous of a depiction also.
oppure era ancora più bella.. chissà..
Breathtaking as always, thank you for this time travel ❤️
so cool ! I would like to see the kings and Queens of France starting from King Louis the 14th on.
Merci
Watching these videos brings a smile to me, seeing them move or look around... Thank you for sharing.
Tremendous work. Thanks for the video.
Thank you Equator AI it's so beautiful and well-made as always!
The Vibia Sabina in this video is the daughter of Marcus Aurelius and sister of Commodus not the wife of Hadrian. Also Commodus was said to have blond hair, yet here his sister is quite swarthy. Good job AI, learning our stereotypes. Good job content creator, perfect amount of research for CZcams; none.
Marvelous work! Have you considered any reconstructions of great 19th century musicians like Franz Liszt, Anton Rubinstein, Louis Moreau Gottschalk, etc? There is plenty of black and white photographic source but no video.
I want to see JS Bach, though I think that one is fairly straight-forward. All the great composers would be awesome. Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Liszt, Chopin... And so on.
Beautifully done! 🤩
Can you do something from Iran,India,Afghanistan? You can use Gandharan busts. Lots of Gandharan bust avaliable.
There must be another channel doing them. If not, you can do these yourself too. The tools are available online, you just gotta figure out how to use em. You could make money doing that.
@@johnsmithe4656 What tools?
@@rtam7097 I'm not that familiar with them as I don't make AI videos, but you can research this easily. Some of these channels with AI trailers for example also have videos where they explain how they do what they do. Search on CZcams, "how to make AI trailers" or "how to make AI faces from bust" or something, you'll find things. Try Google if YT doesn't turn it up. I've watched a couple of these before. New tools are being released and refined all the time. These are usually just web sites, you go there, pay a little money for computation time, and can have AI generate all kinds of things, up to and including video.
Imagine that stuff in video games.😮
With motion capture and some other tricks, it would be marvellous.
VR.... "A Tour Through History"
That would be amazing. Also to see all the old cities and houses in their former glory, with gardens and water, not just archaeological excavations.
Mit dieser Technik bekommen Statuen so etwas wie Charakter. Man könnte daraus schon fast Sympathie bekommen. Das ist fantastisch und zugleich erschreckend, wie mit künstlicher Intelligenz manipuliert werden kann. Wir Menschen müssen uns unbedingt unsere Sinne schärfen!
Cleopatra reminds me of Mirela Priselac, croatian singer, when she was in her 20s.
Merci, c'est très bien réalisé !
stunning
É incrível poder vê-los na dinâmica. Tenho muita curiosidade em ver Antínoo em movimento e sorrindo. Estas imagens estão perfeitas. Obrigada!
Wow !!! They were like they are in life!!!❤❤❤❤😮❤❤😮❤❤
The female ones were done well but most of the males ones sucked.
Thanks Ecuador Al ,it's interesting like always.❤
Cleopatra... ¿pelirroja con los ojos azules? ¿en serio?
Platon ressemble à Gerard Butler dans son rôle de Léonidas.
very nicely done videos.
5:08 Alberto Tomba!😅 Campione di sci italiano
sì è lui 😂😂
Caracalla was so freaking sexy. Interesting
These are probably pretty accurate considering the sculptures and painting don’t depict fine lines and detail’s.
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One more video for all Roman emperors from Augustus to Aurelian plz
Amazing with beautiful music!
great please do more !
Stunning!
You know Cesare Borgia looks oddly familiar the more i look at him, guy has a face you could worship 🤩
Catholic Church used him to model for Jesus. That's why. And now the whole western world thinks Jesus looked like that, when in fact Jesus certainly looked a lot more like someone living in Gaza.
L'A.I li riproduce secondo gli stereotipi moderni..non credo avessero volti così puliti e delicati..I volti di allora, con molta probabilità,apparivano più avvizziti e rugosi, nonostante giovani
Amazing. Do Olive Oatman.
Plato look Like Dagestani😂
The issue here is that a lot of human faces in works of art follow the painting or sculpting style of the time and are not necessarily accurate representations of the subjects. They are often romanticised or made to look better than they were.
With AI, these people could play themselves in a movie.
Have you seen all those AI shorts and trailers? In a few more years people will be able to custom-bake their own movies. Tell the AI what you want, give it a story, or say "fill it in for me, surprise me," and look at all the resources it can draw on. There is coming a time where not all of us watch the same movie. We will be watching personalized versions of each movie, and maybe recommending some editions over others. Don't like a plot hole? Fix it. Don't like a character? Swap it out! Phantom Menace, I'm looking at YOUUUUU!!!!
Very impressive
Cesare Borgia is the only one I think was a bit off. His eyes were smaller, closer together, and the nose different. Other than that I thought they were excellent.
Where is Inanna ( Ishtar)?
and.... Gilgamesh?
Amazing 🤩
c'est magnifique, merci
C’est très bien fait, j’aime beaucoup le résultat 👍🏻
amazing👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Super!
Put the face of Nero ,Julius Caesar ,Cicero .
keep safe ears love
Cool.
Your works should be in history books!
Agrippa is most similar in spirit,
AI is a great magician.
plato’s statue is actually a xenon statue
Caracalla is Pedro Pascal?
It's the first time I see Cleopatra as a blonde.
Cleopatra is accurate, most of the faces are kinder and less Caucasian than the reality.
The Romans and Greeks are Caucasian. Skin tone in that categorization is on a spectrum. If you mean that they don't all look nordic, then yes.
Almost but not perfect. You can the subtle difference.
Caterina Sforza was known for her wavy chestnut brown hair not mousy brown as you depicted. I'm an Aussie and I knew that.
Very impressive. Thank you very much for showing us those very important people as if they existed now. Thank you!
The antique scarlet robes are epic, of course. Where did they get that paint - from the nearest Greek supermarket?
it was dye.
Vibia looks like an older version of Angelina Jordan!
Some were so life like though some less so.
What makes you think that the sculpted people have a tan complexion? They could easily be pale.
Look at Vibia Sabina. There are other sculptures of this Roman beauty where she is distinctly European
Southern Europeans are pretty swarthy, as a pale white Northern European, I am insanely jealous of their weather!
Many of them have too modern and good looking faces
I read Cleopatra wasn't so pretty and with blond-copper hair.....she had greek roots and so i guess she was brunette,with olive complexion and dark hair
Coba dari relief candi di Indonesia.
I wish you could do animations of the Romans speaking ordinary phrases in Latin, and the Italians speaking the form of Italian dialect spoken in their times and places. Oh wow Caterina Sforza resembles me although I am not even a little bit Italian. Odd.
Caracalla's atrocities were one thing, but his mass citizenship grant to everyone in the borders of Rome was really the downfall of the Empire. Obviously, democrats don't study history.
Or do they?
A correct Cleopatra.
What! My grandmother told me otherwise.
@@Rabbithole8 🤣
So, does this mean I have to stop referring to JD Vance as a wannabe Cleopatra? I didn't see any eyeliner/shadow at all in that image. What happened to the "my eyes are just black lines" look?
Jesus are coming 💎
The now most popular image of “White” Jesus is actually Cesare Borgia. Pope Alexander VI was considered the most Powerful “Being” of his time (god). Thus he commissioned portraits of Cesare Borgia as “The Son of god”.
Yes, you are correct.
In this time and age, there are still some people who believe this hogwash. smh
Which was just another blasphemy perpetrated by this family.
@@user-wf6bj5fz4j Don't worry, they didn't keep their heads for long.
This is an easily disprovable myth. The Christ Pantocrator style of iconography is what you are referring to as “white Jesus” and has been the most common way to depict Christ in Europe and the Middle East since the 6th century, predating Cesare Borgia by almost a millenia. Please stop spreading rumors you heard on the internet.
I don't care what anyone says, my grandmother said Cleopatra was black and she knows better than the Greeks, Romans, and Egyptians.
Cleopatra was NOT black: She was a direct descendant of Ptolemy, one of Alexander the Great's generals. Ptolemy was a Macedonian, which is a northern Greek country. To claim she is black is cultural appropriation.
Skill issue
@@Wolf88888 To be fair, descendants can and ARE born with - sometimes patently - different skin colors than their ancestors...
@@Wolf88888 Do you know irony pal?? 🤦♀🤦♀
@alessandrom7181 Maybe he is, but there is certainly no shortage of idiots out there who would say the exact same thing and not be sarcastic at all. If he is attempting humor, then my apologies.
Why the men stand like statues, hardly a blink
Caracalla for example
❤
Yes !
and one of the Borgias that forcibly converted Jews to catholicism.
So now im confuse why does some pple say Cleopatra eas black she even haf red hair.and her features does nt look anything near black..And the look of that statue also doesn't look like a black woman.at all. Why is Cleopatra a black woman un the movie. Please no offence.its my personal opinion.
Because sub Saharan Africans need somebody more advanced to copy. Disney and Netflix won’t pay a fortune for to tell their real story of mud huts and eating missionaries will they?
They’re called “Afrocentrists”, and they seem to be mostly black Americans. Whites stole their culture when they were enslaved and they no longer remember it, so they want to reconstruct or replace their lost identity with something African. So far so good.
HOWEVER, when they looked at West Africa (where their enslaved ancestors mainly came from) they apparently didn’t find the history and culture of those areas impressive or inspiring enough.
Instead they want to claim Ancient Egypt as their cultural heritage, probably because it’s the most impressive bit of history in Africa. Ancient Egyptians, importantly, were also far more advanced and sophisticated than the ancestors of white Americans living in Europe at the time.
But this only works if the Egyptians were black, which they don’t really seem to have been for the most part, but Afrocentrists reject all evidence of this as whitewashing by white historians, which is when it becomes a conspiracy theory since it’s impossible to prove anyone wrong who’s going to claim all evidence against them has been forged.
For some Afrocentrists it’s also partly about getting back at the whites by erasing “white” history, which is why some of them not only claim Cleopatra and all the (Greek) Ptolemys as black, but also the Ancient Israelites, the rest of the Greeks, the Romans, and some even go as far as claiming Northern Europeans like the Vikings and Shakespeare as black etc, basically everyone was black before the slave trade started. Fighting whitewashing with blackwashing, essentially.
The Afrocentrists who go that far are probably pretty fringe, but the Cleopatra thing is really mainstream, common not only among Afrocentrists but among leftoids, and it’s actually quite understandable because she’s been portrayed as more dark skinned than she probably was for such a long time, and it’s also natural for people to assume that the Queen of Egypt was a native Egyptian, only history buffs are going to know that she was part of a foreign ruling elite that didn’t mix with the locals.
All have short foreheads
Ahh, Cleopatra as we all know her and not just a woke daydream.
3:11 extreme BRUTAL warrior. HELL YEAH!! viva la ancient propaganda...
She was brutal. After her husband was murdered via a conspiracy, she reacted by killing not only the conspirators, but also their wives and children in extremely brutal ways.
5:27 😂 Ignore everything granny has said.
“I don't care what they tell you in school, Cleopatra was Black.”
-some random black grandmother
She wasn't blonde with blue eyes either, mate... Cleopatra was Greek through her father and of unknown origin on the mother's side, so the best bet is that she would look like Southern Greeks, Cretans or Cypriots, so basically tan skin with white make-up, big nose, brown eyes and a shit-ton of black hair. HBO's Rome depicts her in the most realistic way.
Esta IA debe tomae un cjrso de fisiognomía..
Ojos saltones como ojos profundos..
Les quitó la personalidad aplanándolos..
Hombres feos los puso hermosos.. mujeres de facciones delicadas los puso regulares..
Se trata de hacer la imagen "real" a partir de la pintura o escultura, no de darle facciones nuevas y eliminar el caracter de los rostros que se encuentra en los detalles.
Lo siento.. no me gustó tanto.
Désolé, mais pas vraiment réussie la renaissance :(
La couleur de peau et de cheveux des femmes méditerranéennes de l'antiquité revèlent tes préjugés. Les egyptiennes, les grecques, les romaines ressemblent toutes à des maghrébines. Cléopâtre ressemble à une irlandaise! Il y a une grande part d'interprétation
je suis maghrébin et il n'y a pas d'uniformité dans le physique au Maghreb. une personne d'Alger est beaucoup plus blanche en moyenne qu'une personne de Marrakech.
Vibia Sabina looks nothing like any North African I've ever seen. Neither does Cleopatra. I do very much doubt she was blonde, however.
@@user-jt8vj1vm6y Les roux sont toutefois rares et de toute façon le type oriental méditerranéen n'a rien à voir avec celui du Maghreb
@@Jaguar1910 je suis jijelien (nord-est de l'Algérie) et ChatGPT me donne toujours des origines turques, grecques, libanaises ou syriennes, quand je lui partage ma photo. Vous n'avez probablement jamais été en Algérie. Peut-être que vous avez une vision caricaturale du physique maghrébin.
@@user-jt8vj1vm6y Caricaturales? Mais je vois des maghrébins depuis mes six ans et j'en ai 43. Avec mes yeux pas avec une IA en carton. Et j'ai côtoyé, des libanais, des Turcs et des grecs à l'université.
AI missed completely with Cleopatra... don't matter what they tell you in school, she was black!
AI didn’t listen to grandma on that one.
But Cleopatra was Greek. Why would she be black? Think of that family as conquerors. They were installed in Egypt when Alexander the Great conquered North Africa. The Ptolemies ended up ruling Egypt, but they weren't _from_ Egypt. They weren't from Africa _at all._ And yes, this means that Cleopatra probably did not resemble her own subjects very much. She did other things to endear herself to them, such as learning their language and respecting their religion, which was unheard of for royalty at the time. She spoke a bunch of languages actually, and was very accomplished. She was also ambitious. This is why Julius Caesar fell for her. He was known for being ambitious himself.
I mean, you can certainly design a version of a film or something where she's black, why not.... but that's historical fiction, not history. And I think it's really important to distinguish. Film adaptations of history historically do a terrible job of conveying actual information about history, and that isn't just true regarding Cleopatra, it applies to nearly ALL of history. I think the modern WW1/WW2 movies tend to be accurate historically, but outside of that it's a crapshoot, you really can't trust ANY of it.
If you want to look for a black skinned powerful empire from history, you have to check out Nubia and the Empire of Kush. They ruled most of Africa for a really, really long time, even taking over Egypt at one point. And they were powerful. Things only started going downhill for Africa generally once Christianity was brought in (~600 CE). Make of that what you will.
(edit for confirm)
She looks nothing like Elizabeth Taylor.
Funny how they all look american😂
Most Americans are of European descent.
Well most today American are the descendants of the European colonialists and imigrants so maybe xD
The whole idea is absurd. Their historical representation is what gives them mystique. AI desecrates them.
That's absurd. They aren't gods. They were flesh and blood just as we are. Take away their wealth and power and the mystique is gone. For a few years they were beautiful, even stunning. Then they got old and died.
The Borgias were just CATALAN, period.
Yes, you're right. Cesare was very handsome till he got syphilis
Macedonian General not Macedonian Greek general, the ancient Macedonians defeated the greeks in many battles to they are two different peoples
Not that clear-cut.
well archeologists said the opposite 😮😮. Ancient Macedons where a doric tribe such as Spartans
Too much modern face shapes.
The statues and paintings dictate how it comes out. They're as perfectly accurate as they can be.
People did not look so different. Artistic stylization affected some representation, but these are only at the most 80 generations ago (80 * 25 = 2000 years).
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Those with curly hair were highly possible darker skin tones. Just saying.
There are tons of people with curly hair who are not dark at all. All these folks were Caucasoid btw there weren't half Subsaharans.
@@alessandrom7181 Show me your basis to radically state as a fact that olive skinned Mediterranean people and North African peoples were Caucasian?
@@PanelitaPlay5577 *I'm Coptic Descent & Have a Olive complexion with Ebony Brown hair & I'm Mediterranean by blood/DNA!*
*I know who My ancestors are/looked like & They certainly weren't Brown/Black/Sub-Saharan Africans!*
@@PanelitaPlay5577👉🏽 *DNA doesn't Lie!* 👈🏽
@@PanelitaPlay5577👉🏽 *I'm Coptic Descent My Ancient Ancestors certainly weren't Sub-Saharan Africans!* 👈🏽
Still not getting them right. Try again AI.