U.G Krishnamurti - Snap Out of It!
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
- U.G. Krishnamurti is swinging in this discussion. Does your heart know it keeps you alive? Can you ever be free of thoughts? How can someone describe the experience of no thoughts or no ego if there is not an ego or thought there to remember the experience?
This man is a must watch since he trashes all that no-ego, don’t think, you are something special, spiritual - and all that comfortable ego feeding that is promoted and attracts the masses into a never-ending self indulging ”finding myself” ”finding happiness” and whatever.
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Timestamps:
0:00 - No free will
0:28 - We are machines
0:41 - Self-consciousness in human species
1:30 - No purpose
2:10 - What is Thinking?
2:30 - Thoughts only come from outside
2:50 - Human brain is only a reactor
3:25 - No thoughts
4:50 - No Beginning, no End
5:55 - Death does not exist
6:25 - Not logically ascertained
6:50 - Wanting is Thinking
7:35 - Thought is a dead thing
7:55 - Experience is born out of knowledge
9:30 - No separation
11:10 - No such thing as a new experience
11:35 - The World Mind (As UG says)
12:35 - You can’t experience your existence except through the knowledge given to you
13:15 - Futility of questioning reality
13:50 - “How?”
14:55 - “How to live?” Is the main problem
15:45 - Thinking can only create problems
16:15 - Brain is not involved in Thinking
16:30 - Memory
17:18 - All sensations/emotions are a menace for the body
18:23 - Pleasure is Pain
19:20 - Achieving goals/Happiness
19:55 - Thought is Matter
20:23 - Spiritual goals are Materialistic
20:45 - Culture is the tragedy of Man
21:30 - Philosophy is useless
23:15 - I don’t know what happened to me
25:05 - I have no “message” for anyone
25:50 - I’m a machine gun
26:50 - What is Life?
30:40 - Cellular structure analogy
31:20 - Selfishness/Selflessness
32:00 - God/Creator is irrelevant
34:00 - Just be miserable. There’s no way out.
34:45 - Technological progress? No progress
36:10 - Jealousy
36:35 - Nobody could help me
37:23 - Cake analogy
37:48 - No virtue in poverty
38:25 - Selflessness (Part 2)
39:25 - No present moment
39:55 - Body is immortal/Death
42:22 - Death of others can’t be experienced
43:10 - You’re a mechanical machine
43:44 - We are just robots. Sorry.
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Conversation
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49:10 - Putting labels on me
50:15 - Questions and Answers
50:50 - No problems only solutions
52:00 - No Happiness
54:50 - Purpose of life?
56:35 - We love Fear
58:00 - Cobras
58:35 - No isolated events
Timestamps:
0:00 - No free will
0:28 - We are machines
0:41 - Self-consciousness in human species
1:30 - No purpose
2:10 - What is Thinking?
2:30 - Thoughts only come from outside
2:50 - Human brain is only a reactor
3:25 - No thoughts
4:50 - No Beginning, no End
5:55 - Death does not exist
6:25 - Not logically ascertained
6:50 - Wanting is Thinking
7:35 - Thought is a dead thing
7:55 - Experience is born out of knowledge
9:30 - No separation
11:10 - No such thing as a new experience
11:35 - The World Mind (As UG says)
12:35 - You can’t experience your existence except through the knowledge given to you
13:15 - Futility of questioning reality
13:50 - “How?”
14:55 - “How to live?” Is the main problem
15:45 - Thinking can only create problems
16:15 - Brain is not involved in Thinking
16:30 - Memory
17:18 - All sensations/emotions are a menace for the body
18:23 - Pleasure is Pain
19:20 - Achieving goals/Happiness
19:55 - Thought is Matter
20:23 - Spiritual goals are Materialistic
20:45 - Culture is the tragedy of Man
21:30 - Philosophy is useless
23:15 - I don’t know what happened to me
25:05 - I have no “message” for anyone
25:50 - I’m a machine gun
26:50 - What is Life?
30:40 - Cellular structure analogy
31:20 - Selfishness/Selflessness
32:00 - God/Creator is irrelevant
34:00 - Just be miserable. There’s no way out.
34:45 - Technological progress? No progress
36:10 - Jealousy
36:35 - Nobody could help me
37:23 - Cake analogy
37:48 - No virtue in poverty
38:25 - Selflessness (Part 2)
39:25 - No present moment
39:55 - Body is immortal/Death
42:22 - Death of others can’t be experienced
43:10 - You’re a mechanical machine
43:44 - We’re just robots. Sorry.
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Conversation
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49:10 - Putting labels on me
50:15 - Questions and Answers
50:50 - No problems only solutions
52:00 - No Happiness
54:50 - Purpose of life?
56:35 - We love Fear
58:00 - Cobras
58:35 - No isolated events
Thank you for this one and other timestamps you've contributed with.
@@lecturesbeyondbeyond no problem 😎👍
Thanks for the efforts
What year was this conversation??? What's the real name of this video? What year was it recorded?
@@roybecker492 probably 1989 or 1990. And probably in California since Terry Newland was in this video.
"I really don't know what happiness is so I can never be unhappy." -U. G. Krishnamurti
Though we are so proud is cause of cultural and sociey. But if we relinquish that what will it remain??
not knowing what happiness is not knowing what unhappiness is
but there are many long moments I suffer a lot
by seeing how we all have been caught up in the causalitiy of things and matters
not only humans are suffering but anything around us is suffering : ..nature ,plants birds animals repriles,insects amphibians..
is it the mind stuff that makes me suffer...?
We are computer machines
Happiness does not exist; only the choice between boredom or suffering. Hence it is easier to love suffering than it is to embrace boredom which is just anger spread thin.
@@sinistergeek my thoughts exactly but he addresses this around 36:00; how dangerous enlightenment is - his variant at least. Basically man is plunged into something hellish even from his standpoint. Frankly I dread his kind of 'enlightenment' - and if he's right, there's no other kind. A bit of a pickle. On the one hand, forget about 'getting to the core of this thing yearning for eternity called life' on the other - something worse than annihilation.
I'm one of the luckiest man in the world to have come across this extraordinary man ,he pulled me out of darkness!
Yes he pulled me out of darkness and it did'nt take long. Amazing .
Me?
If he heard you now though, he will say that what you say is just idiotic...how do you know you were in darkness?
The fact that you are making such a statement means that you are still in the darkness and he never pulled you out to anywhere! I feel so unlucky to have come across your comment.
There was no darkness in the ist place... So pulling u out from there makes no sense😂
U.G. Untouchable Gangsta
Nic Patean his hair is badass. 100% gangsta. The other Krishnamurti kept a gravity defying combover that subtly uncovered his massive bald patch to hint at his brain. UG adorns his head with a badass haircut. Its the equivalent of Mr T's gold chains.
@@kidsfriends8269 interesting. It's in his haircut
@@kidsfriends8269He wore his hair like that in order to cover his abnormally large ears.
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I am very grateful that UG lives via youtube (even more than the books that have also come down). After UG there is no place to go. How wonderful.
Yes. So true!
That might be, but when will you leave UG???
Totally agree with you
UG is the dead end. One should be content here or completely pissed that such a creature ever existed
Very well put ! ... "no place to go"...
U.G. totally reassures me ...✌👍✌❗
And comforts still, as we see the craziness of this World getting but worse !
"Live in misery and die in misery , there's no way out " - U. G. Krishnamurti
Logically ascertained Premise! Love U.G.s phrases. It's been a decade and half of knowing U.G. I keep coming back to him!
What i really admire from UG is his sincerity and brutal frankness ...
This man emboldens you. He is both poison and antidote. He challenges you to be courageous. To stand on your own, free of every damn thing!
The true teacher. The true well-wisher. The true sage. What a boss! Love his smile and straightforwardness. Thank you Sir UG for making me realise I'm just like an ANT. It gives me a lot of peace.
Enjoy the comments as well....takes me there!😎❤️
i just love this dude. He disturbs me
who is it that is being disturbed? ;)
So true 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I know people who would be glad to disturb you if that's your thing.
I love him too :) :)
@@kite4792 MY EGO..
By watching this, I just realised I am seeking again. Seeking for something I already have. This is home. It's always been home. The present moment. Now. I'm home
Did you talk yourself into it lol
Sometimes we get lost and need to find our way back and sometimes we need a reminder of how to get there
Shhhiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet ...
@@jeffforsythe9514 your judgements chain you to fear and sorrow
WHERE IS THIS NOW?!?!?
The "Search" ends here. Nothing left to discuss.
There was no search from the begin with. Just running away
@@ABetterEarthForOurChildren exactly 🙌🙏🏻❤️💖🥰🔱🕉️
Don't entangle your mind in anything.. The natural quietness will come to you.. That's all there is ,😁
Yep
That's one way of looking at it
This guy makes Author Schopenhauer sound like Tony Robbins haha
@spiro Arrogance is unattractive. Especially when it's unearned.
@spiro I love you.
May I interject, and throw a bone to all these barking dogs 🐕??? You all are basking in the idea that you know something yet the manifestation of your knowledge has left you unsatisfied enough that you are here still entertaining yourselves... my question is.. are you not entertained???!!!!! Please do take the bone and look for a different show. May I suggest some Allan Watts and some Dick Gregory lol 😂
spiro sadly you still remain under the illusion that you can change your illusions. Just another dog. Here is a bone 🦴... the fact alone that you float around in your epithets, masquerading this and that as subtle acknowledgements of that which you pretend to understand just to engage in self flogging in a jerking circle ⭕️ with your “screen buddies” amuses me more than reading your condemnation of the rational. That which is, remains as such and that which could be is just an anxiety attack to those that wish to understand where is that they are heading. Opaque as it is, I’m just barking as well. How about it, let’s all go at that 🦴!!!
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Most Honest and Outstanding Individual I've ever come across CZcams !
I am very lucky that I heard this man in this life.
@Daffie Dill We were never alone :)
"Demand to create the purpose makes us missing out on things". Such a relief, can now relax in my misery and die in my misery ❤️
what you are talking about
@@sabi423 He/she is talking about the possibility of being relieved of the fear of dying. I'm guessing you're very young or very happy. I'm neither. Perhaps I've totally misunderstood you?
lol 25:44 😅
So much of what he says makes more and more sense as I go about my life. Most humans live by the stories they create in their minds. Cold hard reality is frightening to us
It's frightening to the ego because it implies that the ego never existed
We create our boogie mans.
@@ABetterEarthForOurChildren If the ego does not exist, who is afraid then?
@@diggie9598 fear is an survival instinct and we project our fears onto the modern world
excellent point..@@ABetterEarthForOurChildren
i fuckin love this guy....it really is simple...its sooooooo fucking beautiful..
knob
I love him, I admire him like no other. So honest. So unique.
@ana thats the one thing he doesnt want "you" to do. By doing so you are doing disservice to him.
@@IAMinfiniteandfree. Such certainty. You're young, no?
@@thummajoe Why are you so angry?
@@paulcunnane4Such an arrogance, you think you are better no?
I can see why It goes over so many people's heads: there is nothing to grasp for those who cling on to ideas. True mind=No mind.
Isn't "true mind=no mind" an idea?
@Sam UG: nothing to understand!!! This guy: you can grasp it if you dont cling onto ideas. Grasp what? No mind? How can you grasp no mind? There is no mind to grasp, let alone some kind of no mind.
@@preupped6201 No mind? No matter.
@@PlayMoreLoud true.
@@preupped6201 that's like when you tell a Christian that there are no absolutes and they reply "isn't that an absolute?" These are the limits of the various sounding grunts we call language.
I am probably hearing this for the 100th time.
2nd time for me
The "The Original Sin" is the day you began your Spiritual Journey. (Remember the embarrassment you felt the first time you perused the New Age bookstore desparetly looking through the books until you fell for that one certain quote that gave you hope. Then when that quotes spell wore off you were right back at the book store just like an alcoholic heading for the liquor joint.)
You started Thinking even before you questioned reality
@@dwijgurram5490 Agreeing with Dwjj Gurram. U.G. is point at the original face before you saw your parents.
@@jeffforsythe9514 as you lattice you will suffer
You can say the about self help books
Crazy how the U.G. persona held so much disdain for J.K. They were facing opposite directions on the same mountaintop. Rather, both realized they never were... J.K. from inquiry into not/self to reveal the absence of a center. UG self-destructed the dream that never started.
✌️❤️🍄
U.G.'s perspective is truly fun.
At first, one may reject him because the Truth is too cold to accept.
But eventually, one sees this just as the way it really is, not good, not bad.
@cranglepiano Yes, if you want to take it further, we are VERY lucky. I just ate dinner, and I'm drinking a Polish beer, that doesn't sound like much right? Lucky. VERY LUCKY. I ate dinner yes, but that dinner had ingredients from Italy, Scotland, Brazil, India, America, Canada, and more, and the beer came straight from Poland. My point? Tonight I got to eat BETTER than KINGS did 100 years ago. We are very lucky.
The man is doubtlessly a genius.
a genius at marketing extreme dissociation
@@rickdeckard1075 he did write a few books but he wasn't marketing anything. He could have easily done the guru thing and made a killing like all the Sahdguru types but he lived off his families fortune and when that ran out some wealthy benefactor bankrolled his life. He told people to steal his books man...
Based on what exactly? His anger management issues?
@@modo203 Based on his authenticity and conviction
@@mellomrom9212 observations are not "reactions" in the sense you are implying, in contrast to your obsolescent employment of "emoji"
He always make my mind silent and sleepy flushing out all the bs.
flushing out? you live in backwards Lala land?
you proven my point with that comment. Thanks.@@arvi2010
It's so clear that wanting to preserve anything causes great strain on living
"There's no need for any communication at all " My Mother is Aboriginal in her 80's and she has Peers who visit, and they sit there for sometimes even 20 mins and not say one word. Now I know why.
Reclaiming indigenous voice and vision is a possible path. No words. Speaks often more. How fascinating we are drawn to noise
@@Jsmithyy silence is gold
Thats next level companionship right there. Most of what passes for conversation is nonsense. You Mum and her buddies have a couple lifetimes of interaction in their silence for every party of people talking over each other seeking to communicate! Please interview her on what is happening if she's open to it and let us know what you learn.
@@Kobe29261 I will ask her, well to be honest im gonna have to say i been talking about you on the internet again and tell her this post to see what response she gives hehe
Cake example is an simple illustration to know what the society and living is all about !!! tremendous
This man is a as real as it gets, the one and only straight shooter I ever listen to
A drunk explaining how drunk they are could also be considered a straightshooter.
The most profound video ever. So thrilled I discovered this honesty: what a mind!
lol.. This guy has little idea. just like you!
@@WickedG5150 Are LOL while looking in a mirror?
@@OfCourseICan Do you really believe the stuff that he is trying to say?
@@WickedG5150 What good is belief to you ?
I dunno what it is, but there's a resonance with his words. I can listen to him forever
favorite quote " You are the expression of life....Unfortunately we separated our self's and we have given to our self's, the tremendous idea that we are quite different Place our self's on the top of the whole creation, which we are not. We're nothing in the scheme of things! We're are no more important. All of us, all of these human bodies will be used, by nature because it need our energy somewhere else. "- U.G. Krishnamurti.
Aaron
In the enormity of the creative force or such energy in all its myriad ways,taking into consideration the entire gamut of creative processes we find elsewhere in the inter-galactic space, human beings cannot be considered the crown of creation any more from the stand point of TENNYSON in his LOTUS EATERS.
@spiro IF you cannot fathom it...or try to understand what i am saying...i cannot blame you. why don't you try understanding the vast unfathomable space between galaxies, measured in light years man......think before you ink. no hard feelings man. except your hatred of words.......! ENGLISH language is nobody's personal asset.
@spiro you are incorrigible......that's a big word again to you........we have already gone to MARS....
@Icy_cool AS a matter of fact, I don't have the slightest clue of what you are sprouting....TIME & SPACE are not just manifestations of mind, but they are physical entities, mental perception of such entities are manifestation of perception. if MIND IS A MYTH as your mentor UGK says & if it is taken seriously the very human existence becomes a figment of pure imagination, without mind, there can be no brain or vice versa, mind is external stimuli, whereas brain is physical manifestation of the mind. if mind is a myth, the physical world we perceive through the agency of mental perception by using our brains would be just empty space.!! because mind being a myth, any external perception would be a myth too. human progress intellectually, & mentally would be unthinkable through a mythical mind. human race & its evolution through the ages has been possible only through the human brain & its concomitant the mind, human race would have remained in a vegetative state had not brain & mind played their mutual role of cognitive perception....if you cannot digest my use of big words, it is your inadequacy of mind, rather to put it more meaningfully, your mental myth. nobodyn
It amazes me how people will binge watch UG but still can't help leaving pseudo philosophical jargon in the comments
I WAS THINKING THE SAME SHIT 😂😂😂😂
That’s part of the fun, the game.. you think by ppl listening to him they will automatically “see the light” pfft
We like to leave our own little smudge mark on the walls of history ;D
Some do not let go of the carrot unless they are told to or forced. That is human behavior
Still we can only comment because of the use of knowledge. We want to comment. Thinking and wanting the same thing. As UG said: it's all like the barking of the dog. Wroof! Whether you use spiritual jargon or knowledge it is the same jargon. We put ourself in a superimposed position as if our comment is of something special instead of all others comments. It is all bullshit. Even my comment is of utter uselessness as is yours. The moment we think we can make a point we have already falsified ourselves. And we are all repeating the one bs after the other. Yes I am trying to make a point. It is useless. It was better to shut up and move on. But still I am a slave of thinking and wanting. There is no way out. We are all trapped.
He just tears down this notion of subjective understanding of ourselves and reality as something separate from reality as it is.We are not results of prior causes so much as we are the it as it is now,past present and future.
unless we live accept life as an endless drama it will keep haunting troubling us......UG rightly says There is no way out.
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He said there is nothing to understand. And most still misunderstand him!
20:45 When the guy asks "Why is the demand there? Why is it there?" and U.G.'s reply is "The demand is introduced by culture!"
Thank you for your comment, it is helping me understand UG better.
@@G5tranceOf course. Eventually, you get to the point that he isn't saying anything special. That's the real mind blowing part of reading up on U.G. 😅
There's a certain technique that you need to listen to UG. You cannot try to figure out what he means. You just have to let it wash over you like when listening music.
@@xdfckt2564 What a perfect and precious thing to say. ( :
What a perfect and precious thing to say. ( :
Technique? Why? What are you hoping to get out of it? You think you'll learn something?
exactly! Don't 'try' and figure it out...if you play a game with your mind and just 'accept' it as truth, it will hit you like a eureka moment from hell and you'll see that everything you think you know, is a complete fabrication
@@buzzkill808raven2 the moment you accept something as truth, it's falsification follows immediately to show you that it's not. There is nothing to say. Words are dead
I'm a creative myself, and I got to recognize this (around originality and thinking). Most things are based on what you know, or as a reaction towards some input provided. If anything original occurs, it's most likely based on some accident based on solving a whole other problem as originaly intended searching for.
It's spontaneous. Imagination draws from the depths of the mind... so deep that you don't know what you don't know what you know.
It's an accident insofar as we stumble upon it unconsciously. But your brain doesn't have 'creative solutions' stored up in the first place. The 'solution' IS the process.
It's no help to society that people find it so easy to cause so many dimensions of separation. Thought is separation. No thought is justifiable other than the very nature of the thought itself which is ineffable in turn destroying any reason to apply context. Which is the very reason the thoughts cannot be "our own". Endless negation. Endless inspiration if that fit's your particular fancy. :p I love U.G.
@@jeffforsythe9514 Thank you very much for commenting! Seeing what I had said long ago gave me insight into how I have changed in terms of my worldview. It's cathartic.
My takes on applying the wisdom of UG. I believe our self identity is created in the mind by our society, we don’t even have a choice, we are all given an identity in childhood, and this in itself is an illusion. Now that you are operating solely on thoughts and your self image, which is all a mental concept, You will need your mind to free yourself from the illusion you were born into. Once your mind is free of illusions, stop asking, and start living spontaneously in the now.
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Can it be lived without healing the traumas and wounds from childhood family n society
"The map is not the territory. The menu doesn't taste like the meal."
What does that mean, can you explain it to me ? Thanks
It means your idea/representation of something (no matter how accurate it is) will never be the same as experiencing the real thing.
I.E.When you ask the question: am I alive? You in turn are ignore the fact that you are alive. Which is quite foolish because you put into question something that is absolutely true full stop. What answer would you need that could satisfy your question? Because that would mean that you would already know what being alive means, which you do, but you effectively caused yourself amnesia.
sick quote but you should've let justmadeit2 figure the quote out on his own.. its part of the fun haha.
there is no map there is no territory
Well fucking said
Wow....from 40mins in he smashes it....the body is immortal
So much confidence in his speech to clarify ideas
Most of his statements are very much aligned with vedantic and Buddhist wisdom... Although he criticise but he is saying similar things with different prisms.. essence is same
@Greedy Bastard I would say ..pay more attention to what is he really saying... When he discribe things... What ever he says is pure wisdom... But due to our idiotic ideas and beliefs regarding religion and wisdom.. he just rejects and decline everything...
Heart doesn't know it is pumping blood - but we are stuck with existential nausea - combining two of his statements. Good luck to you - that's all I can say
@@jeffforsythe9514 thank you - but I am not practicing or encouraging anyone to practice anything - the moment we are looking for a practice we are searching for perfection - the moment we are searching for perfection we are admitting we are not perfect and the game is over. That is what I learned from UG. He or I saying the same thing - there is no need to be perfect! It is a hunt
@@jeffforsythe9514 Hell is a word created to keep the business of religion intact - good luck brother
All pathologies are coming from ego. Once one understand this, there is no one to be liberated, just liberation.
"Without the use of world mind knowledge you have no way of experiencing your separateness from that"
Man he is really really using very strong words.. intelligent man
Now I think that he really learnt what j krishnamurti was teachingf!
living the life of the naked nondual un-teacher (love this guy!)
UG makes me laugh and he's not trying in the least to be funny. There is an indescribable charm to his ultra sobering style.
I've never found more profound teachings than UG's, masterpiece. What's there in life is the projection of our mind not reality as is.
Be careful, even UG himself knows he's full of shit. Listen to his talks carefully, it's full of contradictions
Cherechi Osisioma I'd say negations, contractions sounds like he didn't do it with purpose.
Cherechi Osisioma what are contradictions? opposing thoughts dumbass.
u know wassup!!
Cherechi Osisioma I believe I have heard him at least admit that even...he says I have to express this in some way, I'm just a dog barking, it's non sense..these people don't get that, I'm having a difficult time figuring out "a way" in which to express whatever it is that happened to me..I could only resort to calling it an "awakening" but I hadn't any Knowledge of this term before and when this sort of change took place, only after so I began using that word to describe it, but as he is saying, words do it no justice...and he is correct, it is reactive only, you are not creating ANYTHING with your thoughts "creating your own Reality" is some poppycock as well.
UG: The most interesting man I have listened to till date!!
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One of the best videos of UG
Yo I want to say........I got into UG very recently. There was times where i felt averse towards him based on some of the things he was saying but I did like some of it so I got his book mind is a myth. It honestly felt like death to read at first kind of lol. But it really ended up freeing me and I am very grateful. Been on the spiritual search long time. Although he seems to come off rough around the edges I think he might actually be a very compassionate being cause he must of freed alot of people I know he did that for me.....could be totally wrong but...... Hes rad. People saying he is the last stop of the search I can definitely agree. Never felt so free and at peace before. Sorry if my typing is off pretty tired. Peace. Thankyou
Kapil Gupta next. Pieces of his message. Disregard the flaming.
I think due to his raw statements about love, affection, compassion, all of that stuff, he comes across as very cynical. But if you listen to his closest friends that spent years and decades of their lives with him, they often claim that no one cared for or loved them more sincerely or genuinely than U.G.
This is excellent! UG K woke me up!
@@jeffforsythe9514 maybe you don't understand UG Krishnamurti. His teachings are not shallow it's the deepest because it is not a teaching it's a way of life without meditation, mysticism, spirituality. He will take you to the bottom and tell you life is miserable wether you live it or not. Thought and thinking produce culture like Falun Dafa, has Buddhist roots which also consist of exercise, kind of like yoga and meditation. UG Krishnamurti will tell you meditation is evil because it is a self fulfilling idea and is coming from a culture. Culture is the cause of suffering because it's programming against the natural way, culture separates us from many things such as other cultures and nature. It takes guts and open minded individuals to get UG krishnamurti, after all he is not a teacher, not a guru, not telling us what to think etc. "Woke me up" means no culture involved and no mysticism just the now.
Wanting is thinking.
I thought that was profound too - one of the first notes I took on the video. That we can cut off desire by the cessation of thought.
The challenge I have with UG is his ability to use thought to function and avoid all of its contamination besides; for a mortal like me thought is useful and over-useful; heals and poisons
Indeed just about all my life experience are - again and again - teaching me Silence is powerful and profound. (I only I would listen ... )
''Why do we think'', mindblowing absurd question.
It's fascinating to watch how thoughts interrupt one another, and how whenever UG is at the point of making a solid statement some of his interlocutors gets back at him with a question connected with what he said earlier, instead of for once focusing on whatever he might be trying to actually communicate. There's no real emptiness of mind in this conversation, only turmoil, constant brewing. It's funny, I had that experience a lot, being interrupted at the exact point when a truly finite and helpful thought entered my mind, and it used to drive me crazy - to the point that I decided that that was my fate, and that perhaps I was ramming my head against an invisible but quite solid boundary of my reality, and that I'd better not try to break free, unless I wanted all hell to break lose... But try to liberate myself I did, and all hell did break lose :/
I totally agree with UG as I’m able to follow through & through.
Its quite simple really! He does not identify with the body-mind illusions! He simply lives as the Prior Condition of Being Already Alive, without identification. He is living like an open vessel without attachment!
I dont know much but I think he would tear you unto pieces for using words like these lol
listening to him speak puts me almost in like a trance state i love it . So he is saying that we are reflection of what came before us in our thoughts.
Mesmerizing!
I return to this "talk" over and over!
There's nothing there for "me", but I keep coming back!
The "actuality" of UG is astonishing!
UG forever!
Great to understand the nature and knowing it will do it's job live as one wishes without any confusing thoughts
I was in search mode, and this genius being has destroying my path, and i don't know where to go again, so here I AM ! ... THANKS U.G ❤
Get lost in the world, in love, ... smile, laugh, love, eat.. and do exercise.. enjoy the sun, the water, the wind.. love people, love animLs.. love nature..
Be natural!!
🎶Dale a tu cuerpo alegria, Macarena, que tu cuerpo es pa darle alegria y cosas buenas.. eeehh Macarena!! Aaayyy🎶
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just superb!
If there is any end then it has to be UG😍. If you understand what he is saying then you don’t know how to explain it to anyone else... It’s futile and you realize there is no way out.
I listened to him many times before and never understood and one day I had a vivid perception of non existence of mind and with it the whole delusional world collapsed for me and now when I came back to listen to him, I can resonate everything! In reality, there is no one to claim as “I” at all! It’s all spontaneous simultaneous happenings just here and now leaving no trace of memory or knowledge moment to moment.. It was crystal clear to me that I was never born!
U. G is evergreen 🙏🌺🙏🌺🙏
the question only existz to waste my breath...
beautiful, extraordinary...
This is just a perspective. A perspective can be heard. To accept it or not is ones own decision.
Yes. It's amazing that people turn UG into the very thing he was so against
Acceptance,non acceptance, resistance of "it"does not make it not true
I felt so lost today that I asked God for help. And here I am for the first time. What the heck is this stuff.
Crap.. Like all the rest of it.
Ultimate truth
This is raw reality hidden beneath your sugar coated religious and spiritual culture.
I've had incredible things happen that convinced me my god was real. I'm not convinced anymore. I don't think you were led by God here. This man is the end of God.
There is nothing to know.. 🙌🙏🏻🥰💙❤️🕉️🔱
Me after 2 beers 😂😂
This man was a great guru.
He was anti guru.
"Don't make virtue of your Poverty"...it makes me cry...i lost best part of life chasing Gurus getting nothing...wish I had listened to UG long back...
@Abhinav Menon but dear, when I see around is that almost all my friends arevsuccessful in their careers and in a much better position...while I foolishly spent best years of my life chasing spiritual things...i got nothing....when ug says it's too bad to be satisfied with a small piece of cake....makes me cry... It seems what a mess has I made of my life... It's Very difficult for any other fellow to understand my situation
@Abhinav Menon I may be wrong but what I understand is that UG by giving example of CAKE he is conveying that one should get success in his materialistic life to live comfortably, if not happy, and not to fall for spiritual gimmicks... In that sense, I wish I had listened to him long back to achieve success while my known ones pursued their materialistic goals are way ahead and living better lives..
@@dalbirsingh7342 If your search is over why are you here? As far as I can see you are here exactly to prove your own opinion right. UG searched very deeply but in the end his search "burnt up", please introspect and see if that is the case. Otherwise you're deceiving yourself. The spritual pursuit if any, is of totally losing the false, the true is not gained it is always the case.
@@aquietsky burnt up is a very dogmatic statement to be made about somebody else...a person who has really burnt up his search can say but for others it's just a statement....and it's worst to impose on others
@@dalbirsingh7342 It's not my statement but UG's own. I heard it from him either in one of his videos or his book.
around 3:45
i find myself wondering how useful it could be to continue listening to him when my thinking itself under question rages to know itself as a matter of more than fact, naturally, to be met somewhere by ...Truth ...which may validate my existence, strife and joy
Jim Newman nonduality gives the same no message smiling.
Love for "both" no separation
best of all
You are the perciever , you are the perception. The split happens within you.
“There is no thing, like nothing”, as such, #IT is unique🎈
Awesome. Thank you.
the thoughts is just a processor, the senses and millions micro parts of our body is gathering the information beyond our conscious mind before we know it. the mind is a translator and interpreter.
Except its the only instrument we have. We can't return to 'primal existence' - thats another pipe dream. UG seems to say, 'I got mines, get yours!' I know he's not being cruel on purpose but some days I could almost choke him. He's the guy who announces - rather proves to everyone at the party that its not a party at all, then goes on to show HE is having the time of his life!
The body is not interested in permanence, the mind is..the body is only concerned about survival ..the mind is nothing but a collection of knowledge, beliefs, ideas , definitions the brain has gathered over many generations
37:00 cake analogy and 45:00 - there is nothing marvelous about you...awesome!
I like George Carlins take on it "What's so great about humans?! No chicken ever made a nuclear Bomb"
Thanks for the wise wisdom and truth words on this journey and souls with no mind nothing from Kenya no thought learning on the journey
His interlocutor very smart. Enjoying this exchange.
u g made my life like air haha thanks man
he is preaching about covid19 at the beginning.... enlightenment
Gratitude
Happy thoughts...
Love
Goodby and good luck to you! 😋😋
It cracks me up when he goes "hm?"
Thank you
Interviewer: UG do you enjoy this process of conversation.
UG: There is nothing called enjoyment.. there is nothing called conversation.
This man basically says 'thinking is a virus eating up the world, I broke free but have no idea how. Godspeed!'
Since he's not a troll, its sort of a cruel revelation for him to reveal any of this
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What he says is actually true...Great inventions came into minds just from nowhere..You can't comprehend .
@@harishmehta2982 no - what we call inventions has always been the reshuffling of previous knowledge or skills.
In the same way you cannot manufacture a brick without clay
@@rickestrickc-1375 I mean the first idea..Like if you research about how camera was invented ..It was out of nowhere a person sees light coming from a whole in a dark room ...Which later on by repeatetion and reshuffling of ideas became a camera...
The seriouness brings focus .... High Performance is here to Mater how exciting.
This is cute af🧡 The internal conflicts and emotional hijacks as one tries understand another's interpretation of observed truth🤗 I wonder if they remembered (during the chat) - "Frustration is an integral part of learning."
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Understand this as you always have - In your own way! This "method" seems to me the path of least resistance.
The thoughts that spring forth are simply YOU making sense of a way someone else perceives the world.
(Are you using what you've 'learnt' to understand this?)
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You don't decide what you learn, only what you accept!
When it comes to self-realisation... Acknowledge the fact that you know yourself best. Heck.. who else has been there in every moment from your conception until right this moment?).
When it comes to matters of reality... Understand yourself first! Without grounding how can you comprehend another's?
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Anywho! Entertaining video to say the least. Always intriguing to observe people interpreting the language of nature in their own personal language.
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Understand yourself and your conditioning; and all natural things will make sense to you. The rest you can find in a textbook.
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'The sound of nature needs no understanding. To know it is it recognise it.'
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Shortcut to understanding U.G's perspective is thinking without remembering. The same way you think "oh what a beautiful flower" STOP THERE!! Find out why the flower is beautiful... not why you think it's beautiful. DO THIS AND YOU WILL COME TO UNDERSTAND YOURSELF.