Engine Mounting Tricks for Street Stock - Everything you need to know!
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- In the 2nd Episode of out 2024 Metric Street Stock Build for a Dirt Track Street Stock, I am showing how to mount the engine and transmission. This engine has set back, has rearward angle, and has left leaning angle. I am showing a quick and easy way to get all of that right the first time.
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I'm fully on board with the build videos. They couldn't be long enough in my opinion. I really appreciate your dedication to bringing us along. Excellent work by the way.
Thank you Nick, I'm in go mode now with a list of videos to make just as fast as I can stick er together!
Jason, I'm a real life racer as well as an iracer. I don't believe in buying my setups, rather prefer doing my own. Thanks to you and your builds, I have a lot better understanding of what each adjustment is and what it will do. It also helped me with helping my brother with his racecar setups and figuring out how to make it handle better(front wheel drive). Keep the builds and eraser board classes coming. You never know how much you are helping some of us "do it yourselfers" get better.
Thank you Danny, Sure appreciate you watching and glad its useful stuff for you.
Really enjoy watching your build videos.. You are right building it with complete engine and trans in first.. I did that with one more adventure I built mine to accommodate a Chevy and be able to switch to a Ford engine with no issues. Double bolt pattern mid plate, motor mounts bolt up on same stands, use same power steering pump, double pass radiator and both engine designs using passenger side water pump inlet makes it a breeze.. Building a car the right way first makes it easy to work on when that time comes... Keep up the good work.. Oh for the ones that might say why the Ford engine, I won with it so guess it was not a bad move..
There is NOTHING wrong with a ford. In my opinion you would see more fords at the street stock level if you would just let the guys do two things. 1- cut any frame down to 108" that puts a whole lot more chassis into play. 2- Allow a 302 block with a 347 stroker crank. there are tons of 302's everywhere and that stroker kit is cheap and adds a ton of bottom end torque.
just those two things and suddenly you'd see a mixed field of fords and chevys again!
@@DIRTRACELIFE I have noticed that some racing sanctions allow Ford in GM chassis that is what I did got my local dirt track back in 2019 to allow mixing manufacturers Speedway Illustrated had an article about a car that ran the Bristol street stock dirt races that was a GM metric chassis with a 351c engine that ran good. Problem having now is not many aftermarket cast iron heads heads being made for Fords. World Products only one doing any now Dart discontinued all cast iron Ford head castings and Speedmaster which had problems not making any now and Ford Racing no longer making their cast iron heads not much to work from.. Not much used aftermarket heads for Ford neither.. If EQ would step up like they did for Chevrolet and Dodge would make things better..
The car that your reference is kyle brown he owns Harris chassis in boone iowa
These fabrication skills and knowledge is wild 😂. I’m gonna have to come visit and just spend a day in class 💪🏼
I'm here bud, but be warned I'll put ya to work on a racecar ;)
@@DIRTRACELIFE funny story bro about the 11 car haha. I had a guy drive me rough in the heat. I went over and told him brother look I’m not mad at you, just if that’s how we’re going to do understand I enjoy working on my car do you ?😂💪🏼. So I won’t mind at all hanging with the Duke.
Sure glad you are feeling better !!
dude, that was rough stuff... but the show must go on 😀
I'm so looking forward to this if you did an hour or two hour video I would still be watching I think it's just awesome looking forward to the next one buddy you have a good one
If you go back to my first build I did a lot of one hour videos. What most people dont know is I usually shoot non stop in the shop and a 30 minute video will actually be 2 or 3 hours of footage that I then edit and trim like crazy to get down to the final episode. CZcams pays attention to how long people watch my videos. If I make a 1 hour video and people only watch half of it and then click off, then CZcams computers see that and say hmmm guess that video sucks and they dont promote it as much to other viewers. So over time I have learned that I have to get them down to about 20 to 30 minutes where guys watch the whole thing through. A lot of times it would be much easier for me to make it an hour 😉
Your not playing around with this build are you. For a one man show you are really making some forward progress. I was super excited to see the notification of a new video so soon. Best of luck buddy Im excited to watch it come together and can’t wait to see how it performs.
No sir, Wide open, hoping to drop a video every few days over the next two weeks!
I HAVE THE MOTOR MOUNTS HEAT TREATED AFTER i HAVE WELDED ON THEM. THE WELDING on the nut makes them soft!
I could see that being possible. I get very good performance by using lug nuts but of course heat with slow cooling softens them just like any other nut. they are just so much overkill to start with is probably why I see years of use with zero issues.
Nice video. I'm sure you're working it out, on the effect of side tilt, to the carb float bowl. In my mind it's not terribly hard to figure out, it just takes a little bit of work. I'm sure we'll see it in the future. I mean, the late model guys side tilt their engines, why can't you. Keep building, we'll keep watching.
I was not real sure exactly how much but I knew it would be a benefit to the carb so I just went with 2 degrees. Not enough to hurt anything or make it hard to mount parts but give us some benefit. kind of an educated guess 😀
Thank you again Jason, really enjoy your content
Yes sir, appreciate you watching sir.
Very good video Jason. You could make ANY video an hour long and I would watch it!
Thank you Patrick 😀
Love your videos and craftsmanship
Thank you sir!
Looking good so far bud ! Come do mine next 😂😂😂😂! Keep the vids coming!
Wide open Brian, wide open now 😉
I watched all of the last build a few times. I am not a builder and don't know much, but I wondered why you made some of the choices you made on the last car. I am curious to see what you do here
I made a few good choices on the last one. . . and I made a few bad choices too! I will for sure point out when I do something different this time because what I had originally conceived didn't work out.
100 percent out of curiosity would it make any difference if the crankshaft was centered to the actual center of the car instead of the frame rails meaning finding the center the same was as making the left side hub faces square and the right front 1 inch farther out than right rear or would it not make enough of a difference to bother with it
I don't think it would make any significant difference. It would just be offsetting the engine in general and if needed do that but I don't think it is about centering to hub faces in any way.
I love your content keep up the good work sir and your Camaro was awesome at the ice bowl until unfortunate circumstances
🤔 Allowing for better Oil drain back in the motor matched with a good oil pan that traps the oil around the pick-up should be more than sufficient so that tilting the motor to the side isn't needed. I do tilt my motors backwards.
With that said, I've raised my motors, I've lowered my motors and I've shifted the motor side to side... but, I've never tilted my motor to the side.
As far as rotation to the left, really after the benefit to the carb on that part. I agree, the oil pans we use can handle just about any angle we will see on track but it still all helps a little bit and you never know it could possibly reduce some crank windage from slosh up on the right side rail of the block.
@DIRTRACELIFE we run canton oil pans with crank scrapers, bolt in mesh inserts... we're not worried about the slosh... I have a tendency to overthink things, but I feel as if tilting the motor to the side is an unnecessary step... but to each their own. Definitely look forward to seeing this build progress. This spring, I start my new Camaro tube chassis... and a destroked 400cid (393)...
Jason are you using an aluminum bellhousing?
On this one it is Aluminum (racing transmission and no clutch). On my Camaro, I use a blowproof bellhousing because it has a full clutch.
How many total shock mounts do you need? How many front ? How many rear?
I'm putting four in, one on each corner, I won't do the deal where you have multiple rear mounts.
4 of the same kind?
4 of the ones on your website?
I listed this kit thats made like that because that is the least expensive option that has everything and works well. But depending on the rearend mounts I may not have to use the lower piece on the two in the rear.
@@DIRTRACELIFE I’ll buy you 4 of the ones you listed. Good luck. Maybe get out to see you this coming year.
i dont understand this metric car thing?
Metric GM is a very generic term in racing to describe the GM intermediate frame platform that was many many different cars from 1978 to 1987 (Montecarlos, Regals, Lemans, Cutlass, Malibu, etc)
What I'm puzzled by is if you're taking all the parts from the other car and putting it on another car you're going to have the same thing again
Not at all, There are some parts changing yes but how the car is built and the suspension is drastically different. Using a steering shaft or a brake pedal isn't the problem.
2024 CRUSA Street Stock rules does not allow quick change rear end. Copied from rules section 7. Rear Suspension
"c. Any stock type rear end housing permitted (GM 10-12 bolts or Ford 9 inch) in any make of car. No quick-change
rear ends. Rear end may be locked."
Hmmmmm, Check with Ultimate Street Stock Series. There's something going on and I smell a change a comin!
@@DIRTRACELIFEthey all need to get on the same page. I don’t see why they all don’t go to a QC. QC > Ford 9. Allows more cars to travel to diff tracks
@@DIRTRACELIFE I certainly hope so. I understand the need to keep costs down but the street stocks are traveling all over the place these days. A little nod to practicality may be in order
Well Shoot, we got some good reliable info but I cornered the director yesterday and he said nope another year without... Geez. Its a cat and mouse game getting the info we need.