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- Most of the nighttime scenes in Jordan Peele's "Nope" (2022) were filmed in broad daylight. The same is true of films like "Mad Max: Fury Road" (2015), "Lawrence of Arabia" (1962), and many other Hollywood classics. So why does Hollywood film its night scenes during the daytime? We spoke with cinematographer Hoyte Van Hoytema - the director of photography behind "Nope" and other films like "Tenet" (2020), "Dunkirk" (2017), and "Interstellar" (2014) - about the challenges of this approach and how he innovated an entirely new way of shooting day for night for "Nope."
Historically, the day-for-night approach hasn't always produced the most convincing results. On "Nope," Van Hoytema and director Jordan Peele wanted to avoid the aesthetic of practical smoke and fake silhouettes that characterizes traditional day-for-night scenes - an aesthetic that Van Hoytema and Peele referred to as "movie nights." To find a new approach, Van Hoytema adapted a technique he originally developed to film a lunar chase for "Ad Astra" (2019). The solution on that film involved a two-lens 3D camera rig, including one camera that filmed in color and one camera that filmed in infrared. The infrared footage allowed the team to more naturally alter the colors of the California landscape into something closer to moon lighting.
Van Hoytema used a similar two-camera rig on "Nope" that simulated the way the human eye behaves in low-light scenarios. The result: deep, immersive nights that capture the vastness of the desert and sky - and amp up the tension in Peele's sci-fi thriller.
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As someone who has watched TONS of low budget movies with night scenes where NOTHING is visible, I REALLY appreciated the ultra-clear, day-for-night photography in Nope....even if you CAN see shadows.
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A few weeks after seeing Nope the power went out in my neighborhood and there was a full moon, I was surprised that I could actually see my shadow made by moonlight.
@@joelmercado1099 the most beautiful time of the day honestly, when the moon is full and it's lights out everywhere... the dim gray light is beautiful
@@gabeleadabriel8571 Mmm around midnight sometimes i spot the shadows made by the stuff in my backyard by the moonlight, looks sooo beautiful
Where I live, there's always a shadow, even at night.
The problem as a viewer I notice with night scenes shot at day, is how actors and animals act in the night scenes like they would during day. Example, you don't squint your eyes to look at things in poor light, you open your eyes wide, you don't move swiftly or easily in the dark, but rather take deliberate careful steps, you don't sprint in the dark in a forest, you run with your arms out stretched to prevent collision, etc. I hope the filmmakers can emulate night time behaviors in day shoot for night scenes.
And o the shadows cast on the subject, you need powerful day light to cast such well defined shadows, moonlight doesn't cast such strong shadows.
TRUEEE
The channel really should give this comment a 'heart'.
Damn, that was detailed!!♥️👏🏾👌🏾
Deep observations I agree 😊
Wait... You don't squint in the dark? Sounds sarcastic but I definitely find myself squinting more in dimly lit areas.
The merging of normal and infrared footage is brilliant, working to open up dark complexions. Quite a breakthrough innovation.
youtube compression doesn't do this movie justice. it's really beautiful
definitely, especially in Dolby Vision.
Especially on a top spec oled tv
The colors just pop and the blacks are beatiful
It’s also very helpful to film on overcast days, much easier to balance things out. Digital painters in animation studios will typically have an overcast color key that they can manipulate into different times of day concept art easier. Of course, you can’t always wait for an overcast day, especially in the desert. I thought it looked great in this movie! The worse is when movies do this on a bright day in the woods, the contrast is too much and you can tell the dappled light is sunlight
Nope was such a brilliant movie. I feel for all those who saw it knowing what it was about. The movie spends so long building up to the reveal that it works so well as long as you don't know what it is.
Fantastic video!! I was really impressed with the night time cinematography in this film, so I'm glad you guys made a video about it
Night scenes shot at night almost always look better because they actually have to put thought into lighting the scene with real light sources. That's half of the battle right there.
The problem is that they’re filming a wide open field. It’s practically impossible to practically light a huge open field
@@brown9671 I'm not talking about "Nope" specifically. Obviously, there will be times when this approach is the only practical choice. But if you can film it at night and light it practically, that is the way to go.
@@brown9671 you can practically light a huge open field of snow for example. Or anything reflective.
Some scenes in different movies aren’t in big cities with street lights or torches everywhere in medieval shows/movies.
It’s one of those movies that is so brilliant watching it the first time, you can’t help but watch it more to break apart the story and analyze
For me , the northman has the most beautiful and convincing night shots i ever seen....
YES!! So true
Do you know if those were shot as day for night?
@@JADNCK i don't think so , they war shot on night and lit by overhead crane and then colour graded in post...
It was night
Sorry, I can't get over how awesome the name Hoyte Van Hoytema is.
Amazing! NOPE is one of my favourite movies! Absolutely love it! I've watched it so many times and each time I feel like I am discovering something new!
Yes! An underrated masterpiece!
If you think nope is good i feel bad for you... It was a confused disaster. I think Jordan is getting worse with every movie.
@@AntonioRodriguez-tk4wpsomeone’s mad Jordan actually made a complex film this time around. It’s okay you don’t get it LMAO
You need to see more films
@@AntonioRodriguez-tk4wp if you didn’t understand a movie that’s on you
Nope's one of the best sci fi movies ever, also one of the best looking
Horror*
@@DenonBoyofthe21stCentury I’d say it’s more terror
When I took a course on movie reviews (in French), this kind of scene was referred to as "Nuits Americaines" or "American Nights."
That’s very cool. Tu es canadien?
@@alex.shutters Oui !
That actually the original title of Truffaut's film mentioned in the video (La nuit américaine).
@@fruzsimih7214 Yes, it is.
Oh! I searched the topic with the second one, I'm Mexican! Good to know I wasn't bad
The night scenes in Jaws I thought looked great. A movie doesn't have to get it exactly right, part of a movie is the dream like experience. I think going for 100% realism is putting technical over feeling. Even those old westerns where it's obviously day for night, it still tells the story and it doesn't bother you if you're wrapped up in the story.
Exactly, movies will never be reality and that’s okay. Some people still have to learn this.
Jaws did also just actually film at night, but that’s not always practical. So as you said, they do what they can to emulate reality and more importantly, get across their artistic vision
A great "yup" to the "nope" movie🎬
Day for night seems like night in full moon which is very much like a night for me and kinda nostalgic for me.
Amazing special effects..!! Thank you for the update, Insider..!!
this video came up randomly in my suggestions: I havent even watched Nope yet! gonna get on that -This looks so amazing!
I really want someone to make a tutorial breakdown of the post production process of merging ir footage with colour like that for day for night. Cuz realistically you could get the same effect on a super small budget with 2 cameras, a filter and some creative problem solving.
One of the best examples of this technique is used in The Beach with Leonardo Dicaprio. He’s walking on the beach at night with a girl and their eyes are squinting in the sun.
This movie in IMAX was such a party🎉
IMO it was mid
@@anthonykearneyfilms everyone is entitled to their own opinion 🙂
@@DojoFromYT yeah. For me the story didn’t carry the movie well. Visuals were impressive but story lacking. Kinda like Dune
@@anthonykearneyfilms I agree! I wasn’t impressed when I saw it. I felt it would’ve been the same in a regular movie theater
Such a good dive into this subject
To me, Nope is one of the greatest movies in very long time
Condolences
It was definitely my favorite movie of 2022, though I found 2022 to be a pretty abysmal year for films. My only complaint was with some of the editing - Peele has teased a Director's Cut that I hope we get some day.
Fascinating
I think the title says it all insider.
Was able to see House of the Dragon night scenes just fine. It’s no where near as dark as the image you shared on my iPhone 13 Pro whenever I watch it live on HBO app.
Incredible
this is so cool
Really cool techniques
Interesting facts
This film is the best ive watched ever I love how they were serious at all times I love it
So you have seen like three movies in your life?
This is All I need about the how make the night scenes in the movies.
Just saw this last night , was pretty good. Didn't notice all these nuances though.
That’s the point.
@@ImTHECarlos98 Well I mean the use in "Nope" where you don't see the writing on his hat at first, such that it simulates your eyes adjusting to the darkness.
Of course this is streaming with Prime Video's spotty "HD" quality. I remember thinking visual and audio wise this would have been a great movie to see in theatres.
Awesome movie
i saw a day for night shot in the first season of Outer Banks and its as if they just added a blue tint and called it a day. the sun was supposed to be the moon in the shot but it was so obviously not night time it took me out lmao
Wedding photographers have been using this trick forever. It's used on the first dance. No bride and groom ever wants a well lit room for their first dance . they want the lights low and romantic. So what we do is we start off with the lights low and slowly edge them up to where we can get a decent exposure.
Cool 😃
Man what a good reminder about how garbage house of the dragons night time lighting was. I stopped twice to see if my screen was fucked up or if it was glitched or something.
This movie was incredible. I liked Get Out. Thought US was a little pretentious so I was unsure about this one but ended up loving this movie
US was pretentious? Explain please (I actually wanna know this is not a hate or sarcastic comment)
@@abdullah-_-. In my opinion, it wasn’t bad. I’d rather watch a movie that has big ambitions but misses the target rather than a good movie that’s already been done too many times. I just felt like the concept was meant for the audience to say “wow” but it wasn’t strong enough to wow me, personally.
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@@nicholasdiaz8181 ohh yeah yeah I agree tho I liked it maybe more than some people I still knew the concepts were created with a certain "wow factor" in mind
I like pretentious. We need more pretentious. It usually ends up in better films.
btw the vfx team were mostly indian designers based in bangalore india for Nope
Loved this movie so original but not one water tank in sight for those horses
wow
0:30 yo pause 😂
i noticed though
How did they shot the same angle with infrared and non-ir?
Why its so difficult to float in the air when you are under water
👍👍👍
What is 0:45 from?
i m amature independent videographer and me projects are zero budget most of the time. I rather risk noises with real light than use low budget lightings that looks obvious(in my own projects of course can't risk in client ones)
Becaz it said 'NOPE' to the night =)
"but you didn't had to cut me off"
So how did they do the No Country For Old Men night desert chase scene. Was that at night? Cause I was able to see what was going on.
Update:
I just rewatched the scene. It looked like that one was shot in the day (early morning with overcast at best). My bad.
I would imagine because of the sun?
People talk about how good the day for night was in Nope, but I disagree; While it's better than many other movies, it was still distracting for me.
I love Mad Max Fury Road but I don't think their night scenes were "successful", as the narrator puts it.
When I think of that film I just think of how 1/3 of the film is blue because they wanted it to seem like they were traveling at night.
The night time is not convincing to me, it feels like they filmed in the daytime and just turned it blue to seem like night, I hate the effect.
What they did in Nope though was incredible. Watching that movie for the first time last night on Prime I completely forgot that they recorded it in the daytime even though I had seen this video first. It was a very convincing effect, especially the morning after scene when they were running from the house to the Fry van, it looked so dang good. Even the blood rain scene I forgot that was fake night time, it was incredible cinematography.
Mad Mad Fury Road should've kept the film during the day, it looks incredible in all of those shots, but the night time looks fake and takes me out of the film.
Stanley Kubrick shot scenes with only candle lighting in Barry Lyndon
I suspect it worked in that film only because it was so slow paced. I can't imagine an extreme-low light camera like that could work for an action movie. At least not with FILM cameras. I'll admit I'm not sure if that would have ANY effect on digital cameras.
@@derkeheath5172 They also had hundreds of candles in those scenes. It's FAR brighter than moonlight. You still wouldn't have been able to get an exposure with Kubrick's modified lenses. Digital cameras like the a7s series are the only ones that are sensitive enough to be able to capture what the night actually looks like. But there's no camera like that that produces an IMAX quality image.
John Carpenter watching this... "Yawning, yeah sure.. whatever"
*Uh it wouldn’t have anything to do with the fact that IT IS NOT DARK DURING THE DAY??* 🤣🤣
Just spitballing here, but is it maybe because of the sun ?
No Helm’s deep clips? Bruh
The other issue they didn't mention is the most obvious one lol, the CGI. Imagine trying to render in an alien nebulus cloud and you can't see jack sh*t. Lighting is really important in Visual Effects, hence why it's shot in the daytime. Game Of Thrones had it easier compared to House Of Dragons because they could just hide some of the actors playing the skeletons and don't render in effects, for the dragon, they'd need to see it though.
Wow, CZcams compression absolutely destroyed this video!
Nope was 100% snubbed at the Oscars. At least deserved nominations for cinematography, VFX, original screenplay, sound editing, and even costume design (but contemporary costume design is always snubbed). What do you know, a movie about how black people's accomplishments in Hollywood being overlooked is being overlooked.
Ooop
So are Asian-americans and Asian-American films.
@@HereGoesKevin So true, and I'm glad EEAAO got the recognition it deserved, it was incredible!
Nah, give me the night scenes in Terminator 2 any day, or most 80's movies for that matter.
Maybe im just picky, but i feel like its so obvious its day for night in Nope. It doesnt look dark, just tinted. A great example for me is the final scene in Sicario. Beautiful dark
How about being able to see and hear a film, unlike most of the current movies
What movie is 0:45
I'm pretty sure it's from an old Alfred Hitchcock movie, but I can't remember which one.
I use day for night technique because I'm broke af
Great video although I must say your explanation of eyes getting used to low light conditions isn’t correct. The pupils adapt their size within a second or two. It’s the chemical processes inside the light-sensitive cells of the retina that take up to 30 minutes for the eyes to get fully adapted.
Astronomers and stargazers know this very well from their experience. Once away from the distracting light sources, it takes 30 minutes to be able to see the faintest stars in the sky.
That's all nice but where are the stars? People living in big cities might not be aware of the fact that stars exist and are visible when there are no clouds like everywhere. Even during the full Moon there are many stars in thr sky and I didn't see any on these shots.
I liked how the northmen did their nighttime scenes
i cant see anything in this video
Next up: why it's so hard to shoot underwater scenes on land
night too dark i cant see any
I love how absolutely everyone shitting on day for night in the comments, especially on NOPE, didn’t even notice it was day for night until they saw this video 😂
Because the sun is up 🙄 I could've told you that
Ohh I know this one because it’s day time and not night lol.
Can you make a video on the process of making incense
Maybe it’s hard to shoot night scenes during the day because well maybe it’s day time
I actually don’t like scene shot in day and shown as night, there something off about them.
did anyone hear the fart reverb sound at 2:58, please someone else tell me I'm not crazy
I think it’s the Sun lol
Day for night is done to save money
RLM taught me never ever shoot day for night
They way daylight Works is Very different from the way the lights Work at night. As a digital artist, you learn How to Paint night scenes and It is totally different from day... Thats why It always looks fake when cinema do this.
Another thing that movies forget is pupil dilation. Night time you gonna have BIG pupils.
The title?? Isn't obvius that filming a night scene during the day is hard?😂 Im wondering who's asking why
reminds me of nosferatu
Stuff like this is like the black lines from green screen. We all can see it and know it's a manipulation, but they keep doing it acting like it's too legit to quit lol mean while every movie goer is like "why do they keep making daytime night?"
1:15 This is no longer true, many modern cameras have sensors that are much more sensitive to light than the human eye. Sony A7s III for example
The biggest giveaway are the shadows. If you don't have a strong, dominant, direct light source like the sun, the shadows will not be that clear and hard. Day for night just sucks and looks bad most of the times. You just get used to this.
The moon produces hard shadows. The amount of people that don't realize this in this comments section is pretty wild.
The movie script should have been far better though
For me, it felt more like an editing issue rather than writing. There were numerous scenes that had weird transitions or felt edited to the point of losing their power. I looked it up and, sure enough, the original cut was longer and the studio insisted Peele cut it down. The Asian Cowboy and film director lost a lot of screen time. Peele's teased a director's cut, but there's never been any confirmation of a release.
It really isn't that hard and we do it all the time on even the most mundane of crappy tv shows.
I want to watch Nope but I’m afraid. Is it really scary? 😂
there’s a mix of definitely scary scenes, and some fun scenes between the main characters, so expect scares but it’s not absolutely dreadful
The Nope night scenes don't seem very believable though. Maybe not the best example?
I still can't believe how incredible this movie is. And the day for night was probably the only thing I wasn't impressed by - I don't think it's done that well here.
?? It is not a good movie
@@richarddecredico6098 it's probably my favorite movie of all time
It's still looked fake as "movie nights". Don't particularly mind... but I actually thought Nope was particularly guilty of this look
I hate dark scenes. I could not see the logo on the hat, even in the 2-minute side-by-side comparison.
Jordan Peele has me SO conflicted : sure, film-lovers have gained much from the enormous talent he brings to his work, but this comes only at the LOSS his extraordinary comic performances. So what this really comes down to, is...
...Is having "Nope" really worth giving up Meegan? 🤔🤔🤔
Why shooting night shots at day is hard? Answer: because it's freaking daytime.
Lack of Skill + Advanced Camera = dull shots