it was 10 extra spdef on mzam from oras to sm, game freak must have messed something up because zam was the only mega that didnt get +100 bst through mega evolving, getting +90 instead, so they fixed that in sm
if your still wondering about the clef item, i think its either sticky barb or rocky helmet sticky barb is a tech taken from ss ou where clef first knocks off the items of the opposing team, then punishes contact moves such as uturn by passing on the barb both are cool techs to chip down mons like defensive lando or celesteela to assist mpins and band kart in breaking hope this gives you a better insight into the structure of ojamas team
I love the BW style sprites for gen 6/7 Pokemon so much. While the 3D sprites are perfectly palatable, there's so much *charm* to the "peak DS graphics" style that the newer Pokemon still translate incredibly well.
@@lordsneek2660 Probably the worst outside the obvious ones are Cacturne and Magmortar. Two menacing sprites full of personality replaced by the most ugly, empty 3d sprites devoid of character
Pretty sure Empo won from the end position anyway. You always attack into that mega pinsir to ensure you don’t lose to it Swords Dancing. If it does QA, then you go into steela afterwards, take the cc and you wall kartana afterwards.
Close combat crit from pinsir mega might put celesteela in range on choice band kartana sacred sword (252 Atk Pinsir-Mega Close Combat vs. 248 HP / 28 Def Celesteela on a critical hit: 212-250 (53.4 - 62.9%)) Even through the 2 protect leftovers regeneration. It was at a clear advantage for empo but definitely not over
@@Altthiel that doesn’t matter though, empo just needs to go to ttar on pinsir, if empo ccs then celesteela kills it with flamethrower and even if crits happen alakazam just kills kartana. If ojama doubles back to kartana on the ttar that doesn’t matter either, the ttar gets sacked and sand ends, so zam comes in and just kills kart and celes can deal with pinsir.
@@Altthiel there is no right play. Empo is known for using scarf ttar on balanced teams like this and he already sent it out against pinsir once that game.
Doesn’t sand + poison kill even if ttar isn’t scarf? Pinsor at 64, you take poison once by sd ing into ttar, twice when you attack, thrice as celes protects and another time as pinsir attacks celes, that’s 4 turns taking 18% a turn so pinsir dies and zam beats kart. Ig pinsir can still switch out predicting celes protect and then it comes down to either cc or knock critting
If it was indeed a ScarfTar that outspeeds Mega-Pinsir (as is suggested by Turn 46-47), then the endgame move is to go hard ScarfTar as Mega-Pinsir comes in to revenge Mega-Zam: The likely clicks are either QA or SD for the Mega-Pinsir, which is then forced out into Kartana as ScarfTar clicks Crunch (or any move that can KO the Mega-Pinsir). Sack the ScarfTar to Kartana, go into Mega-Zam (comes in at 16% after rocks, so it should be able to take a turn of toxic+sand?) to revenge it, and the Kartana is pretty much forced to stay in. Sack the Mega-Zam to Pinsir to deny SD and win with Celesteela. If the Mega-Pinsir, for some reason, goes for CC as ScarfTar comes in, then Celesteela comes in and claims a KO on the spot with Flamethrower, which will be cleaned up by Mega-Zam even if Kartana somehow muscles past the Celesteela (maybe after the Mega-Pinsir chips it). It's a fairly similar situation if there's a double to Kart after Mega-Pinsir gets sent in after the ScarfTar is sacked to Kartana. Hopefully I'm not making myself look stupid by overlooking something obvious here. Great vid!
@@uwuppa hell yeah. the bw animated sprites are the best looking iterations of how the mons look in battle imo, your style fits in with the rest of them perfectly. love how all the personality they give the mons. great work! 👍
@@ahcripes7651 No, 3D especially SV is better But BW sprites are also good, and carry the romhack/fangame community. The Sprite Resource project contributors are amazing
Hey BKC when you're watching a game for the first time would you prefer to know both teams items/spreads ahead of time or is part of the fun in punditry trying to sus out what kind of team building each player is bringing to the matchup?
My first impression was that Kartana would most likely be z giga impact to punch through zapdos for pinsir, turns out by the damage it's band which I suppose also can get the job done with rocks potentially
Video idea/suggestion: The history of the burn status. I always get the feeling it barely ever factored before will o wisp and I love your history of hazards, etc videos
I ran some calcs, and it seems that even if ttar wasn't scarf the win was almost assured. If he stayed in with zam on pinsir to prevent sd, celesteela would come in and be at 66%, and take 31% max from jolly close combat and 34% max if ada, leaving it at 35% or 32%, then gaining back 6% after the flamethrower kill. He would then protect and get back another 6% when kartana comes in, and banded kartana does a maximum of 42% with sacred sword
when switch moves are chained repeatedly (torn uses uturn into rotom who uses volt switch into lando who uses uturn into magearna who uses volt switch into torn...you see a lot of it in ss with boots and teleport)
Ojama lost anyway.. Empo goes hard celesteela and Ojama is forced to sack one. If he sacks kartana he loses to celesteela, if he sacks pinsir then zam outspeeds and KOs
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it was 10 extra spdef on mzam from oras to sm, game freak must have messed something up because zam was the only mega that didnt get +100 bst through mega evolving, getting +90 instead, so they fixed that in sm
they messed up cause they used bw zam as a base which had 10 less points in spdef than xy zam
The talk about timer preservation mattering in the intro was some genius foreshadowing and prophesying.
if your still wondering about the clef item, i think its either sticky barb or rocky helmet
sticky barb is a tech taken from ss ou where clef first knocks off the items of the opposing team, then punishes contact moves such as uturn by passing on the barb
both are cool techs to chip down mons like defensive lando or celesteela to assist mpins and band kart in breaking
hope this gives you a better insight into the structure of ojamas team
very happy to see you doing live narration again! always makes the game more exciting to watch
Empo's custom avatar is goated
BIGs avatar hit different
shoutouts Brumirage for her work on the BIGs custom
@@pujo1227 Brumirage's the GOAT
Nah, his personal custom is waaaay better
Honestly both are
I love the BW style sprites for gen 6/7 Pokemon so much. While the 3D sprites are perfectly palatable, there's so much *charm* to the "peak DS graphics" style that the newer Pokemon still translate incredibly well.
3D sprites m
Look really really really bad depending on the pokemon. Haxorus is a prime example
agreed. why did pokemon need to go 3D?
@@lordsneek2660 Probably the worst outside the obvious ones are Cacturne and Magmortar. Two menacing sprites full of personality replaced by the most ugly, empty 3d sprites devoid of character
@@ohnoitsdominoes5393 Yeah I knew about Cacturne but didn't realize how dirty Magmortar was done. This is Typhlosion levels of screwed up
first time seeing my celesteela animation in a video lmao. love seeing comments about it
Pretty sure Empo won from the end position anyway. You always attack into that mega pinsir to ensure you don’t lose to it Swords Dancing. If it does QA, then you go into steela afterwards, take the cc and you wall kartana afterwards.
Close combat crit from pinsir mega might put celesteela in range on choice band kartana sacred sword
(252 Atk Pinsir-Mega Close Combat vs. 248 HP / 28 Def Celesteela on a critical hit: 212-250 (53.4 - 62.9%))
Even through the 2 protect leftovers regeneration.
It was at a clear advantage for empo but definitely not over
@@Altthiel that doesn’t matter though, empo just needs to go to ttar on pinsir, if empo ccs then celesteela kills it with flamethrower and even if crits happen alakazam just kills kartana. If ojama doubles back to kartana on the ttar that doesn’t matter either, the ttar gets sacked and sand ends, so zam comes in and just kills kart and celes can deal with pinsir.
@@jonetxaniz783 but sd on ttar switch might win if every play is right afterwards. As said, heavily in empo's favour but definitely not over.
@@Altthiel there is no right play. Empo is known for using scarf ttar on balanced teams like this and he already sent it out against pinsir once that game.
Doesn’t sand + poison kill even if ttar isn’t scarf?
Pinsor at 64, you take poison once by sd ing into ttar, twice when you attack, thrice as celes protects and another time as pinsir attacks celes, that’s 4 turns taking 18% a turn so pinsir dies and zam beats kart.
Ig pinsir can still switch out predicting celes protect and then it comes down to either cc or knock critting
Ojama's twitch chat must have been spamming COPIUM when he timed out LOL
If it was indeed a ScarfTar that outspeeds Mega-Pinsir (as is suggested by Turn 46-47), then the endgame move is to go hard ScarfTar as Mega-Pinsir comes in to revenge Mega-Zam:
The likely clicks are either QA or SD for the Mega-Pinsir, which is then forced out into Kartana as ScarfTar clicks Crunch (or any move that can KO the Mega-Pinsir). Sack the ScarfTar to Kartana, go into Mega-Zam (comes in at 16% after rocks, so it should be able to take a turn of toxic+sand?) to revenge it, and the Kartana is pretty much forced to stay in. Sack the Mega-Zam to Pinsir to deny SD and win with Celesteela.
If the Mega-Pinsir, for some reason, goes for CC as ScarfTar comes in, then Celesteela comes in and claims a KO on the spot with Flamethrower, which will be cleaned up by Mega-Zam even if Kartana somehow muscles past the Celesteela (maybe after the Mega-Pinsir chips it). It's a fairly similar situation if there's a double to Kart after Mega-Pinsir gets sent in after the ScarfTar is sacked to Kartana.
Hopefully I'm not making myself look stupid by overlooking something obvious here. Great vid!
This was def one of the most entertaining OU battles ive seen
havent finished the vid yet but that bw celesteela sprite looks incredible
hey thanks! i animated it actually ❤
@@uwuppa hell yeah. the bw animated sprites are the best looking iterations of how the mons look in battle imo, your style fits in with the rest of them perfectly. love how all the personality they give the mons. great work! 👍
@@ahcripes7651 No, 3D especially SV is better
But BW sprites are also good, and carry the romhack/fangame community. The Sprite Resource project contributors are amazing
Ojama and smogon in the same title. I wasn't sure what game this was for a second
dam steela has a BW animation, dam that is pretty cool
Topical upload with Pragg's similar loss in the chess yesterday
SM OU is still easily my favorite meta game in Pokémon
Hey BKC when you're watching a game for the first time would you prefer to know both teams items/spreads ahead of time or is part of the fun in punditry trying to sus out what kind of team building each player is bringing to the matchup?
making assessments based on the information available in the battle is way better imo
My first impression was that Kartana would most likely be z giga impact to punch through zapdos for pinsir, turns out by the damage it's band which I suppose also can get the job done with rocks potentially
The Storm Drain trace was HEAT
Video idea/suggestion: The history of the burn status. I always get the feeling it barely ever factored before will o wisp and I love your history of hazards, etc videos
thank you! it has been done: czcams.com/video/NH3bqtVZ6Gg/video.html
Literally done a year ago
i really liked this live format
I did not know the custom sprite work for some newer mons was this good if they make more progress I'll prolly do sprites over the 3d renders
I ran some calcs, and it seems that even if ttar wasn't scarf the win was almost assured. If he stayed in with zam on pinsir to prevent sd, celesteela would come in and be at 66%, and take 31% max from jolly close combat and 34% max if ada, leaving it at 35% or 32%, then gaining back 6% after the flamethrower kill. He would then protect and get back another 6% when kartana comes in, and banded kartana does a maximum of 42% with sacred sword
Congrats on your week 1 victory.
Empo vs Ojama live is a dream come through
respect for using bw sprites in sm, how do you get it to work for replays though?
He didn't, this was recorded live
sprites every damn day, dont care if its rby or bw or any between, way more enjoyable then 3D
You gonna cover the Arctic game? Thought he brought a cool team
8:58 Kevin is a Clicker confirmed
Thoughts on turn 28 from ojama’s perspective? Why not just volt out again?
Isnt Ojama the guy who got clapped by moet with a hyper cutter toxic orb gliscor 😂
HYPE
Celesteela bw animation looks so nice
Can you explain what the vortex is?
when switch moves are chained repeatedly (torn uses uturn into rotom who uses volt switch into lando who uses uturn into magearna who uses volt switch into torn...you see a lot of it in ss with boots and teleport)
He had no way past spaceship anyways
Who tf doesn’t skip turn tho with seconds left that’s on him 😂😂
On god, crazy how good players do noob shit so often
Noti gang noti gang noti gang
What
VGC moment
Gen 7 🐐
What's up with this BW style sprite thing? I really like it
You can specifically choose bw sprites on the Showdown settings
smogon link to replay?
replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen7ou-670237
@@BKCplaysPokemon Danke
Magearna does get heal bell
The animation? Bro skip turn
Ojama lost anyway.. Empo goes hard celesteela and Ojama is forced to sack one. If he sacks kartana he loses to celesteela, if he sacks pinsir then zam outspeeds and KOs