Mutt Sabbath 125 vs Mongrel 250 Which is best for returning bikers?
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- A change to the normal caravan and motorhome content this week. Many bikers find it hard to decide between a 125cc motorcycle or a 250cc machine when getting back into biking after a break.
When I moved to the Hebrides I gave up my motorcycle as it would have sat unused in the shed for about 360 days a year. Moving back to sunny Kent means that I can once again get a motorbike.
I've been looking at Mutt Motorcycles for many years. Mutt make the coolest 125cc and 250cc motorcycles on the market. Their HQ is in Kings Norton, Birmingham, only 4 miles from Chapel Lane Caravan and Motorhome Club Site.
I want a motorbike that is light in weight, flickable, and fun. However, I was undecided between a 125cc and a 250cc.
In this video, Mutt kindly lend me a 125cc Sabbath and a 250cc Mongrel so I can pitch the two engines side-by-side.
00:00 - Introduction
00:45 - Who is Mutt Motorcycles?
01:53 - Intro to the Mongrel 250 and Sabbath 125
02:20 - Test ride of Mutt Sabbath 125
05:56 - Test ride of Mutt Mongrel 250
11:00 - Revised gear shifters
11:37 - Should you go for a 125 or a 250?
12:25 - Outro
There is a clear winner!
For more info about Mutt Motorcycles, check them out online at muttmotorcycles.com/
This video is self-financed and impartial, and made with the consent of Mutt but without any commission or request.
Helmet - Davida
Goggles - No idea. I think I got them in Silvermans London.
Jacket and Jeans - Belstaff
Boots - Alt-Berg
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I like that you’re easing yourself back into motorcycling, even though you’ve only been away from it for three years. I’m a Forensic Collision Investigator by trade and the number of fatalities I go to involving 50 somethings on 1000 or 1200cc ‘superbikes’ after 20/30 years away from biking who just can’t handle the power is crazy! Walk before running. 😃
I don’t care what your trade is but in this instance you are talking tosh. Gov UK National Statistics show regarding motorcycle fatalities between 2016 and 2021 434 had no other vehicles involved….769 had a car involved. Regarding the age of motorcyclists killed between those dates show ages 20 to 24 14%…..30 to 39 17%….50 to 59 14%.
As Andrew experienced in his short test rides car drivers are a menace at junctions and roundabouts,there are no rules on the road anymore it is total anarchy on UK roads. There are very few motor patrol officers out there and you can drive for weeks without seeing a Police vehicle until there is a fatal collision and you can suddenly find eight Police vehicles, strange. I and my motorcycling friends have near misses every time we are out ( not our fault )and what with cameras, potholes, gritters out up here in August (practicing) and sub contracted top dressing merchants who leave two inches of chippings on the surface, ask any dealer motorcyclists are giving up and handing their bikes in many times losing a lot of money. But what’s your life worth.
@@crimmond06 and that’s my fault how?? I know what I see on the roads and I know what I have to deal with every day at work!! Now play nice, just because I’m a police officer doesn’t mean I’m responsible for how Britains roads are managed …stay safe! 😀
@@twogoonsonanadventureissue is the law drives people to get huge bikes, I ride a 125, for me to ride a pixy 250 I have to do the same thousand £ course that allows me to ride an 1100 fire blade! So you going to spend that money and just get a 250? No, nobody is.
Great camera work! I felt like going for a ride after viewing. Thank you.
I used to ride a 450, back when I lived on the Central Coast of California. My favorite ride was up Hwy 1 from the San Luis Obispo area, up to Monterey, then barrel down Hwy 101 back south. A full day with lunch and. A break in Monterey. That section of coastline, if you’ve never been, is one of THE BEST coastal beauty spots. When I moved to a more populated area, the bike just didn’t feel like a safe option (many heavily trafficked freeways), and it was time to say goodbye to my motorcycle. But, I do get what you mean about riding.
I've never really been into bikes but that was very interesting - thanks.
Never herd of Mutt before so I enjoyed this video as I got to learn something new.
Personally I ride a BMW K1600 GT Sport and love it. Most people think its too big and heavy, at 6ft5 it fits me well and the power and its handling is fantastic. My point, we all love different bikes for different reasons.
Can't wait to hear what you go with and to see some of your bike adventures.
Thanks for another great video.
I could almost have written that myself. I'd never heard of Mutt and also have a K1600GT 😆
@CliffordDive nice to meet a fellow K16 rider. Hopefully see you on the road :-)
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for taking me
After 10 years away (and a stroke), I got back in the saddle last year. Like you, I wanted something on the lighter side initially. What I got was a Kawasaki W650, which was about right. I've got a Goldwing now, though.
Great to see you back on a bike again Andrew, 😊
Great video Andrew. After this I immediately re-watched your 5 ferries challenge video on your lovely Thruxton. Happy bike shopping!
That took us back to the late 1970’s Andrew. We had a tan Yamaha FS1E followed by a blue Suzuki GT250 two stroke (we got a 2nd one as the 1st was stolen) and finished our motorcycle career in 1980 with a brown and black Honda 550 K3 with 4 pipes. It was our dream bike at the time but it was sold to buy our first car. A metallic gold Hillman Avenger 1600 GLS with twin headlights and a black vinyl roof. We were the CoolCats in those days. 😂 Stay safe whether on 2 or 4 wheels 😃💙 Trev n Sue x
Awesome!
Your content is always enjoyable, regardless of the subject. I would vote for the 250. Thanks for sharing!
am sure you will have a great time with a small bike, thanks for another great video :)
Loved this! Great to see an impartial review of a motorbike. Love their styling, reminded me of the Triumph I used to ride, it’s gorgeous.
Glad you enjoyed it!
So great to see you back on a bike. This is what first got me in to your channel; Dougal on the motorbike. As a single person with a dog you have made me realise that I too can do it, although haven’t taken the plunge yet. I’m caring for my elderly parents at the moment and not living in my choice of place but it’s their time atthe moment and mine will come in the future. In the meantime my little Westie adds so my joy to my life. Make the videos if and when you can; we will still be here
Great vlog even for a non biker. I had my heart in the throat every time I saw a car approaching a junction. You looked like you were certainly in your ‘Happy Place’
Really interesting video as my son in law works there! Have fun if you get the 250.
The 250 one seems to suit you better. I hope you get the one you want.❤ love and cuddles to the boys.
Great to see you back on a bike Andrew. I know nothing at all about them, but it would be the 250 for me!
Sound beautiful
Good to see you going down a happy route!
Graeme & Sandra…😄😂
Hi Andrew, good to see you are getting another motorbike. Totally agree with your choice. I've had a VanVan 125 (slowest 125 on the road ;-) for over 10 years. Great for nipping about the streets of SW London but real drawbacks on dual carriageways. You need that extra power to get out of trouble and also setting off from traffic lights fairly quickly if you have filtered to the front. One thing I noticed last year is that there are not so many motorbikes on the streets of London compared to 15 years ago. I understand this is due to an increase in theft and high insurance costs that go along with that now. Anyway, have fun. I hope to get mine out the garage in the not so distant future. 🙂👍
Thanks for the reviews it helped me alot to pick which one is good for me. Im a returning biker as well 250 is the one ☝🏻 Ciao from Italy 🇮🇹
Very interesting. Brought back some memories (no, I'm not returning). Thanks again!
I really enjoyed this video it was very insightful and informative. Don’t even get me started on the amount of knuckleheads on the road I’ve almost been totalled 3 times in 2 days due to people’s total lack of awareness on the roads 😢
Glad you enjoyed it! Yes, riding a bike keeps our skills sharp if we want to carry on living!
Has to be a 250. I love the style of these bikes, such a refreshing change.
Hi Andrew, lovely to see you. Have missed You! Always a Joy to Watch Your Videos & it was so lovely seeing you on a bike again! It's definitely you!! Seeing Dougal & Ted together definitely a Winning Duo, Bless!!! Take Care Andrew, Sending Lots of Love to You,Dougal & Ted 💖💖💖💜💜💜 XXXX
Many thanks!
Loved the Mutt motorcycle reviews, i would agree if you have a full motorcycle licence then go for the 250. I would only consider the 125 if you have L plates and CBT. Another post in these comments suggested Royal Enfield 350s. These are great bikes in a range of 3 styles using the same platform ideal for newly qualified riders or more experienced riders looking to downsize. Hope there will be more motorcycle content to look forward to.
Thanks Andrew for another great one, I am probably living on another planet, but the price of bikes are amazing €4000
Thoroughly enjoyable content as ever Andrew 👍🏻 We do feel a little overdue a train video tho 😉😂
What brilliant photography. I've no idea how you did it but what a delight to watch! Last time I was on a bike was 55 years ago ... but I wonder?!!
So I have a BMW R9T and a Vespa 300, and love them both for their own special character and performance dynamics. The vespa never feels too slow. I’m pleased to see more manufacturers turning out sub 500cc bikes that perform well, look good, have low weight, are frugal and cheap to insure. If you’re worried about residual values then I’d look at the Royal Enfield 350s. It nice to see Mutt getting proper consideration though. Great review
I was just looking at videos of the Mutt, have to say the two Muts won the show.
Many 125s have ample power and torque.
I currently ride a Honda SH125i that I do deliveries on, now approaching 56,000 miles since May 21.
That 125 looked some what nerve racking never mind getting confidence back.
Loved the way Dougal told Ted that HE was the boss of riding in rucksacks!
Hubby says he'd go for the 250! Excellent price too. X
"We're gonna need a bigger bike"😃 I would also recommend a bike cam and more importantly an airvest. I have a Helite Turtle. Think the bike show is shortly after the caravan show but its a bit of a rip-off eg £11 for parking but the caravan show offers free parking.
Hi Andrew great to see you back on a bike! You've missed them haven't you? I think you went past my niece's house in Kings Norton! Really enjoyed this video! I've always loved motorbikes myself, had a boyfriend once with a Bonnie which I absolutely love! Made a nice change from your usual content, hopefully you'll get yourself a bigger bike in the near future?! There are some beautiful bikes for sale, I'm always looking and when I pass a bike shop with all the beautiful, shiny models on display outside, I always have a look to ogle over them! Will you be off to Dusseldorf after the Torchlight Festival? Have a safe trip if you do, more bike videos please!! Take care, love and hugs xxx 🥰😘🐶🐕
Hi Andrew. I'm an ex-motorcyclist and despite having no interest in getting back into it, I loved this video 🤩 I always really enjoy your calm, measured, and slowly paced tone.
I recently got an Insta 360 camera for my 50th, so it was also great to see its performance from some handlebars. Throw in Dougal and the pup, and I could watch your vids for hours 😅
I understand the struggles with making a living from the channel, but I do hope you continue making videos. I think doing product reviews across more than caravans and motorhomes might be something to think about doing more of. It wasn't a fawning sycophantic review like I often see elsewhere...you were completely honest about each bike's pros and cons. Your video even got me thinking about how cool a wee £4k bike might be to own! Keep on riding sir!
Many thanks! I'm amazed at the Insta360 footage given the amount it was vibrating. All the best.
Enjoy your new way of life!
Welcome bit of 2 wheel action. After 4yrs on a 125 I'd only consider a learner legal machine as a short town ride - as you show they aren't easy or inspiring to use on faster roads.
I'm now on a 500 which is ample for my use - as a few others have suggested you really ought to try the new 350 enfields for size.
Nb. Surely the gearshift position can be adjusted easily by rotating it on its splines to give more/less boot space under it.
Hidden depth Andrew 🤩. Like your caravan adventures, I don’t ‘bike’ but I do enjoy your videos. Not that you will care, but you looked damn good in leathers on the bike 😜😎🇨🇦
I rarely get compliments so keep going! Thank you :)
Good to see you enjoying the bikes and getting the opportunity to try both engines sizes. I did the same and unfortunately the 125 was below par on quality of finish. So i'd check the frame and cable routing especially under the seat. Refunded within the month!
Good to know!
for someone whose last time has been on a bike way back in the 90's (god that makes me old - hehe) i think the 250 is the right choice to go for. AND it suits you very well 😁
Another fab video x
Thank you professor!
I knew which one you'd go for 😊
Good for you loving petrol bikes , the mutt 250 seems a good round town option
Great to see you back on a bike. They certainly put a smile back on your face. The only problem is how are you going to take both Ted and Dougal out together?
Dougal on the back, Ted on the front. That's the plan... :)
A lot of older seasoned riders are looking at smaller capacity bikes these days, and the new Triumph Speed 400 and Indian BSA Goldstar are big enough for most needs. I like riding small bikes in an urban environment, and my only bike at the moment is a 53-year-old Honda 100cc Scrambler. With just one bike most people would need something which can stretch its legs comfortably on all journeys. I'd say the BSA Gold Star and the Triumph are both worth a look if you like traditional naked bikes, and they are extremely good value new and used.
Great vlog MrD. I run a ZZR1400 but, since arriving on the caravan scene last September and luckily being able to get away for 10 to14 nights every month, the bike barely gets to turn a wheel. I'm currently debating wether or not to give up the bike....but l can't bare the thought of not having it in garage 😢. Anyway, great to have you & the boys back. Take care & happy bike hunting! Regards, Mo 😊
I really miss my Thruxton. Maybe chop in the ZZR for a smaller and cheaper bike that you won't mind leaving in the garage as much? That's my strategy! :)
🤔 Hmmm...That idea's got the old cogs turning! 🏍😂👍
I’d check out the Royal Enfield range as well. The Classic 350 is a nice all rounder.
I have the same Davida helmet and goggles as you. I'd go for the 250 as lots of people still just want to bimble around the country lanes on a summer's evening, chilling out and soaking up the marvellous serependipitous views. I imagine the Mutt 250 is very similar if not better than a RE Himalayan yet they are massively popular.
Yep, that's basically all I want to do :)
Hari OM
I can't wait to see Dougal back in bike mode.... and I wonder what Ted will make of it?! Gotta love a ny bike that comes as a Mutt... and that to a Mongrel! YAM xx
Either of these are light enough to put on the back of some motor homes too.
Look at the Royal Enfield 350 range I have one 3 years warranty and rd side assist long stoke engine 100 mpg
Oh yes, that 350 Meteor's a beaut!
I own one since almost 2 years, 16000 km (approx 10000 miles): super happy with it, sorry but no chance for these 250s. There are many of them in Europe, with different brands, but none can beat the R.E. range, IMHO. By the way, there are still European manufacturers, in Italy we have Moto Guzzi and Ducati, e.g., while Benelli is now just Chinese. Also BMW and Triumph are made part of the range in Asia.
I went for the Meteor 350 for the reason you mentioned as I looked at Brixton 125s and although they were size wise great for me at 5 ft 3, they were too weak for road use out of town. The 350 is about the same as the MUTT 250 price wise and on the French Motorways (I get the crappy car drivers in UK which is why I stopped 18 years ago riding my beloved GPZ500S) it was happy at 65MPH. Worth a thought! Good luck however you roll in the end.
Hope you enjoyed the first pic of my GPZ500S. I did 13,000 miles in the first year on that bike! Loved it :)
@@andrewjditton sure did. But flashy for me I had black :-)
Excellent video . I've just got back onto a bike too but chose big frame Vespa 250GTS and have to say it's a total 'hoot ' . An amazing amount of poke for its size . It really accelerates well and easily cruses at 70 comfortably (maxing out at pretty hairy 80mph) I had also perviously ridden bigger bikes, so a scooter was complete change for me but I wanted something small , light and easy to put on the back of the motorhome when I'm touring. The vespa more than fits this bill and I'm really glad I chose it . The other bonus is you can carry a lot of shopping on it so perfect as a supply tender for he motorhome when you're wild camping .
Good choice! 🎉🎉🎉
Blimey you were literally down the road from me. There’s a nice biker cafe on Kings Norton Green upstairs! Fascinating to see places I know from a bike camera angle- look very different. Brum drivers are not the most observant- you look cool in black but a bit of high vis is safer for those idiots!
Bikes are not my thing, but found this really interesting!
Great video Andrew, as a biker I can sympathise with the way car drivers sometimes can be oblivious to us, it makes my blood boil.
It’s going to be a 250 ……….🤭
Bit off topic, but your footage has made it to bbc island crossings! Congratulations! 😁
Yes! They did ask AND they paid me for it, so that was a real bonus all round.
Hi Andrew the 250 for me or any of the Royal Enfields all good the choice is yours 😂
I had an offroad 125 250 & 360 in Iran in the 70's. Loved the 125 because it was light and great for playing around, jumps etc. Used to ride in sand dunes and the, 250 didn't have enough torque, hence the 360. However, at only 1m76 it was heavy but coming off in the sand was ok. The best all round for me was the 250.
End of last year, put new tyres on my 1300. I'm 75 and off the bike for 3 years (Cov). Must admit, it was scary at first but after a month or so, it started to fit me again although my feet have never been flat, on the floor. But that's only when you stop 😊.
Great review as always Andrew. Think you made the right choice.
Oh, something funny. I passed my test on a 50cc Lambretta that I paid 50 quid for in 1970. This enables me to ride my 1300cc Yamaha. Is it still the same?
Oh my, you have to jump through loads of hoops and spend a stack of money to get a bike licence these days - one of the few advantages of being old! :)
Never really heard of Mutt, cool looking bikes. What I would say is that not all 125cc bikes need thrashing to get to 40mph. Mine is a Piaggio Medley and it quite happily does hills and two-up, topping out around 60mph. Nonetheless I agree a 250 is more sensible for getting along with traffic. I'm looking at 350-400 for the same reason and I think it's the perfect middlegeound, but the added bulk may not suit you. Anyway, good luck finding the right bike for you. Enjoy!
Hi Andrew. New location, new adventures! Great vid, and good to see Dougal & Ted. Btw, how's your friend Shannah doing? Take care - hope all is well with your mum & bro. 👍🏼💪🚴♂️
Shanna's doing great - you can search for her newsletter on Substack called 'Life: Examined'. Many thanks :)
Love thos more please. Love S x
I am not a biker but still enjoyed the video. So no change there, then....
It's more fun to ride a small bike fast than it is to make a fast bike go slow. But safety comes first (the 250 seems safer).
I'm coming into the comments 2 months later, and from "across the pond", but loved seeing the smaller motorcycles for sale. Those are sharp looking machines. As a rider with 30+ years street riding experience, I finally went from riding a huge bagger (Kawasaki Nomad 1600) to much a smaller adventure bike (Versys x300). I thought I'd miss the huge power curve of the larger machine, but honestly, the smaller bike is so much more nimble, I find it a blast to ride. I do miss the comfort of the larger bike, as well as the carrying capacity of those large saddle bags and rear trunk - they made grocery runs more fun!. But I do not miss the weight and awkwardness when trying to park on gravel lots. I can hop off the Versys and walk it into/out of a spot safely, if necessary - something I'd never be able to do with the bigger bike. Don't think I'd enjoy one much smaller than the 250, though. Especially since you need to hop on your faster roads occasionally. Whatever you pick, I hope you stay safe and have loads of fun!
Seems very nice to ride around town and country roads
That's the idea, Paul!
Andrew, I'm a caravanner and a biker. We live in Gloucester. You are welcome to come and stay in the grounds and we can go bike shopping at the local dealers. I believe that light is right too and there is so much choice, but you need power and presence. Your dogs are more than welcome and we have loads of space and a hook up.
Sounds awesome Chris, thanks for the offer! Will let you know if I am heading West...
Have you looked at the Enfield 350? Light bike, similar styling as the mutt and a bit more power, for when you need it
Have you seen the Triumph Rocket 2.2litre and 300kg. Absolute madness. I would love a Mastiff myself cheap and about my capabilities. Cheers from old George
Much as I would love to return to biking on a large tourer I’m afraid the appalling standard of car drivers puts me off! Take care buddy.
Ah my neck of the woods, I regularly ride my e-bike around Kings Norton so "hellooooooooooo" sorry 😂
I actually live 10 minutes walk away from the former Arial motorcycle works in Selly Oak. more power is always better in my opinion. I have the same issue with car drivers on my bike :(
Edited to add the site where they are based was once a paper mill, and is very close to the canal Junction where there is a guillotine lock still intact.
Interesting video. Thanks.
Fashionable but useless mudguards if you are going to ride it on wet days.
OMG no no no for that money you would get a good Bonneville 👍 the Mutt looks ok but they are not good at all
How appropriate that a man known for his dogs should be considering adopting a "Mutt!"
Even from this side of the screen, the difference in performance between the 125 and 250 is like night and day!
This should help you regain the smile that leaving Uist must have cost you 🙂
I want a 1978 Honda 400/4. Badly. It hurts.
Got to agree with the others, you will struggle to get a better bike for the money if you got one of the new Royal Enfield 350's. The Hunter is the lightest and has similar styling to a Bonny, but half the price, reportedly 100mpg and easy to service yourself.
Andrew, could I ask you what the camera was that you clamped to the handlebars?. I know you have a DJI Pocket, but that's not it! Interesting video, my 1957 BSA Bantam would only do 40mph downhill, prone :-)
Hi Roger, it's an Insta360 X3.
I've not been on a bike for many years. Never heard of this brand. I don't want or need a huge bike and if I was getting back into it I'd take a serious look at the Royal Enfield classic 350cc which seems good fun from reviews and looks the part.
That's what I brought after 4 years away. I love it and it's fine up to 60. That's fast enough at my age
@@johndavies1872 Have emissions regulations changed things with motorcycles? I used to own a Yamaha xs250 custom and it seemed quite happy at 65mph. I would have thought 350cc machines would easily sit at 70mph.
@@GaryBox the 250 was more powerful. My superdream was 27hp the RE 350 is 20hp but I dare say it will do 70 but I don't want to ride any faster tan 60
I know that you specifically stated that you wanted a petrol bike, but there are a couple of electric ones that might suit. Smallish, lightweight and agile. The Super Soco TC max or the Horwin CR6. There is a version of the CR6 that has a manual gearbox for that shifting experience...if you want it. Neither will break the bank too.
Will check them out, thanks!
More neutrals than Switzerland…brilliant.
Wouldn’t it be great if e;Ecotricity? Chargée everything up from the caravan site and even the car!
Nice change of vlog. So before doogel came on the bike with how you going to manage with 2 dogs??? Ps I'm a biker on gaps years off 🤞 I get back on it soon
Dougal on the back, Ted on the front. At least, that is the plan! ;)
sums up why I have never fancied a motorbike - I prefer metal and airbags around me rather than my legs being the crash protection. And no-one ever fell off a car. Thats without bell ends in cars being taken into account
Cool looking bikes...a shame that two wheeled transport wears a cloak of invisibility for some drivers!
My thoughts exactly!
For similar money andrew,the royal enfield himalayan 411cc or scram 411 might be worth a look aswell m8 🙂 i think they are on offer at mo?
Great info and bollox to electric.
Glad to hear about the upgraded shifter, I’m a very tall rider, the mutt due to its bench seat is ok, but this upgrade is something you can request?
Yes it is!
@@andrewjditton thanks mate👍
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why does gas tank dent so easy ? is it safe use on streets ?
250 for sure :)
A motorcycle is a leisure vehicle - in my book anyway.
Good point!
If you're interested in a low power bike, I'd opt for a scooter. Makes more sense in an urban setting and more comfortable on a longer ride.imo
Could I be so bold as to suggest you check out the Royal Enfield Scram ... bit more colourful :)
Stop making me want to get a motor bike!!!! :)
Just ordered the 125 mongrel as my first bike, wanted something safe and slow to ride for commenting and to get experience for a year before I start DA.
Great choice! Enjoy.
I havnt ridden in 2yrs since an accident however i dnt think i would get a bike this small. Id look at a 500 at the smallest. For this style of bike ibwould seriously consider the royal Enfield interceptor 650 45hp so not ridiculous and about £5600if u want brand new
They just seem cheap and not too pretty, have you seen the 2 new Triumph 400 singles coming out soon, I’m sure they would be much more suited as you are used to a bigger capacity bike, very well made and both look amazing.
*Note on motorcycle road safety: YT'r "Dan Dan the Fireman" (EMT & rider) has road safety videos on spotting and reacting to potential car/motorcycle accidents.
I would go for a used quality brand twin around 400cc if I were you the world moved on from really small cc road bikes. If it must be new and low cost then the Enfield range is worth a look or the new triumph ? I have a 350LC but retired it due to smoking everyone out. The lightest most powerful bike I could get to replace it was a KTM 690 duke and it can still hang off my camper, not made anymore so it stays.
The new Triumph 400 Scramblers look good too.
Another great review from Mr. Ditton. My opinion is 250 all the way. My qualification for that opinion is that I earned my living for over a quarter of a century riding a Honda ct110, so I speak from experience. And yes I do own an 800cc Triumph, plus I also ride bicycles. The basic speed limit in Australia is 100km/hr so a 250cc is even more suitable in some ways down under. There are more bikes in the 300-500cc range that you possibly want to consider. Given the dangerous nature of Motorcycling & the fact that car drivers are out to kill you, I wouldn't carry my dog on my motorbike, I know she would love it, but I couldn't live with myself if anything happened.