Is It a Sin to Stand with Viganò? Monsignor Pope Explains
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- What is going on with Viganò and what should we think as Catholics? Join Monsignor Charles Pope as he unpacks the controversy surrounding Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò and schism.
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A sin is an offense to GOD. Not to the Vatican or the Pope.
If you sin against the Pope, you sin against God! You also sin against the church. Confession is to reconcile you to both God and the church, let that sink in!
@@figurefour633
Please quote the scriptures that say that.
@@figurefour633your statement baffles me, maybe I'm not as enlightened as you are.
@@figurefour633 Let it sink in with you. The mortal sin of Modernism has brainwashed us for 60 years. Most of us have no idea whats really going on. Let's not pretend in our ignorance to judge Archbihop Vigano, he is right.
@@robertrivera1751 You may be right.
Pope Frances has cost much anxiety and confusion. That says a lot. May Our blessed Lord continue to bless and protect Arch Bishop Carlo Maria Vegano!!!
The fake Catholic media has caused confusion along with people like Vegano
I stand with the Vicar of Christ! Long Live Christ the KIng! Down with Schismatics! The only people who are confused are those that choose to believe in the lies of Vigano.
@@annstrahlendorf2879 no he hasn’t. Vigano et al are creating the discord by denying Vatican 2, rejecting the past three Popes and wanting to turn the clock back to 19 century
It is Archbishop Viganò’s responsibility as a bishop, to warn the faithful not to follow the errors coming out of Rome. St.Athanasius was also excommunicated and he was in the right!
Did St. Athanasius deny the papacy and a church council??
I stand with the Vicar of Christ! Long Live Christ the KIng! Down with Schismatics!
The past interviews of Dr.Malachi Martin resonate more and more as each month passes.
God rest his brave and gentle soul.
They certainly do!
Fatima Apparitions became Fatima Prophecies that have demonstrated time and time again they have and are being fulfilled. Fatima is no longer “private revelation”. It’s Heaven’s instructions now.
I stand with the Vicar of Christ! Long Live Christ the KIng! Down with Schismatics!
@@lo5182 indeed, down with schismatics, and all who do the will of Satan also.
I'm with Archbishop Vigano. He is fighting a deadly hierarchy who are trying to destroy the Catholic Church. Perhaps other archbishops, bishops and priests will take the same stand.
He hasn't gone too far.
He needs to declare Bergoglio excommunicated.
@@user-tv6vv5rb8v Thing is Bergoglio has already excommunicated himself according to the BINDING rules for a Conclave in "Dominici Gregis"
@@user-tv6vv5rb8v Great idea. Lets get the anti-Pope removed. Hes already done enough harm.
The law says there is only one God not pachi or moloch. If you say I am not the Vicar of Christ or successor of the apostles you have denied in writing the papacy . Vigano is only bearing witness to the truth. I stand with Jesus my Saviour.
Vegano is a schismatic and excommunicated
That makes two of three if you include yourself, Vigano and Francis and the two are you and Vigano. Vigano is telling the truth, Francis is not. If you are a follower of Christ as much as you say you are, you will recognize that.
The NovusOrdo RCC doesn't censure the lqbtxyz German Catholic Church nor the Jimmy Martin agendas.
I say NO to lqbtxyz Fiducia Suplicans edict......NO to Panchamamma Incan idols worship NO to the Amoris Latetia edict.
Frankly I would trust them more if they did ANYTHING about Germany and the abuse of the blessing permission exhibited by Fr. Martin and the like. But they are not even handed. Or so it seems to me.
By their fruits you shall know them.
Vigano stated, "Schismatics are accusing me of schism."
With Germany PF has simply told them to slow down. No reprimand. PF knows if Synodal church moves too swiftly they will be able to fool less people. I'd dare say the German church is leading more astray than Archbishop Vigano.
Canon 212 allows Catholics to voice their concerns about Church matters. That includes the invalidity of Bergoglio.
St Catherine of Siena did not hesitate to speak her mind about the anti-pope crisis of her day.
Our own situation here as to who is or is not the pope is not novel to our time. It has occurred before. And those who lived before had to decide, on the basis of their own reason, who the true pope was.
St Catherine of Siena did not sit around and wait for the cardinals to resolve the problem. Rather, in no uncertain terms she told them that they had installed Satan on the throne of Peter and so they deserved to be tortured.
Of course there are matters of Catholic faith which are not attainable through reason alone. But those things are not at issue here. The question of the identity of a true pope is not inherently a matter of Catholic faith, but rather relates to questions of actual material facts.
Jesus commanded us to love God with our whole mind. The mind is the seat of reason. We must use our reason to know the truth as regards Bergoglio’s invalidity.
Jesus also commanded us to be wise as serpents. Again, a call to use our minds.
What is not acceptable is for us to appeal to some shallow excuse to attempt to justify our failure to employ our minds, especially when our minds are the only means we have, to come to the truth of this matter of the papacy.
Always remember what St Paul wrote about the necessity of each of us having a love of truth in order to be saved. Those who have a love of truth must use their minds to attain to the truth of this matter of the papacy.
Very well said!
@@sketchartist1964
Thank you.
If you deny the Pope you too can be excommunicated just like the two Spanish nuns have been!
God is in charge 🙏 ❤
I stand with Archbishop Vigano. Truth will set us free
you stand with a lie
You sat and with a schismatic who is already de facto excommunicated and is about to become formal excommunication. According to the Fifth Lantern Council, the Holy See is Judged by no one ☝️
Root out the corruption - if you can.
@@robertbrown7470 The corruption is in all of us and only Jesus can.,We must focus on achieving our own personal holiness. We don’t do what Martin Luther did and take things into our own hands. Vegano is for from the saint he pretends to be! Everything is in Jesus hands, trust God and focus on your one holiness and leave the Church to him!
@@figurefour633 When you say leave the Church to him, do you mean Francis?
Nobody qualified to declare the papacy invalid has the GUTS to do it. Somebody needed to.
Agree!!
Disagree
Amen
I stand with Jesus and the Vicar of Christ-the office. Since that title was rejected by PF, he has abandoned us! Lord have mercy on us. Lord help us.
I wish more Priests, Bishops and Cardinals would fight for the church like Archbishop Vigano. The church is in a sad state because of the hierarchy
Viganò is fighting for anything but himself trying to save face in light of his on scandals.
I think it's not really difficult. If many Priests, Bishops and Cardinals change the mass in their churches/jurisdictions from NO to TLM, it means automatically they are against Pope
@@dewinoviarini1103 We have to respect the Pope and follow his guidance as he is the Holy Father!
WISHI WASHI. Thats the problem with novus order trained priests.
Exactly, just what I expected and I am still uncertain.
After watching your show, I thought think the appropriate question should be; is it a sin to stand with pachamama pope Francis.
Apb Vigano is doing exactly what his state in life requires him to do. The only question is where are the rest of the bishops.
It is not a difficult or confusing decision. unity is found in God, not man. I suggest you visit Priests for the Restoration of Catholic Life for the defense of the position God has revealed. You all seem to relegate God to a second post in the Church. He is second place in the Modernist church but not the Catholic Church.
Vigano is correct and the past accusations by him have been proven true. Vigano represents the true Catholic Church 🕊️🙏
So long as Vigano is at peace with His Saviour, he has not lost the fight at all.
Is Bergoglio the “Pope”? Yes. Is he a good shepherd of the Catholic faithful? NO. Bergoglio is a poor shepherd of the Catholic faithful. Therefore, I stand with Abp. Vigano.
I stand with Cardinal Vigano, Bishop Schneider, Cardinal Zen, Cardinal Burk, Cardinal Sarah, Bishop Strickland, the cancelled priests. Francis maligns the faithful while elevating Rupnik, Martin and others who are not living as Gods faithful. Francis has desecrated the Eucharist by giving it to the unworthy, embraced paganism.
I agree with you, but didn't Zen attack Vigano, and attack Taylor Marshall for supporting Vigano?
@@Individualati Cardinal Zen was not given support under Francis when he was imprisoned in China. He was allowed to attend Pope Benedict XVI funeral where Francis snubbed him. Cardinal Zen is a very holy man and we can see that Francis will not tolerate anyone who lives a good and holy life. He is hurting many Catholics. We are called to be faithful to God and we must discern whether those whom we follow are also faithful to God and His teachings.
@@barbaramarcis1908 "... we must discern whether those whom we follow are also faithful to God and His teachings."
Yes! I salute you for saying that. I will never be a groveler to anybody just because of their position.
I opposed this politician named Jorge since he staged his fake-humbleness hotel bill stunt 11 years ago. I eventually dropped off because our side didn't actually DO anything. Maybe we will get mobilized now that Emperor Jorge is so blatant, so I'm back.
1. Is Truth subservient to obedience to the pope?
2. Was St. Paul in schism for publicly withstanding St. Peter to his face, as recorded in Galatians?
3. What does he know that we do not?
4. Does he have “deep church” knowledge he is aware of and that he cannot, in good conscience, give his obedience to?
5. By remaining silent and giving the appearance of obedience to the pope is he endangering his flock and thus guilty of not warning the faithful (Ezekiel 3 & 33) by omission of teaching Truth?
6. He will no doubt be excommunicated by a tribunal that is on record and by fact teaching falsehoods. Will we be required to give assent and obedience to those who “have the buildings but not the True Faith”?
We should not give assent according to Galatians 1 :6-10 and 2 Timothy 4 :1-5
So the members of the Canon law ,are they all Catholics or there are some protestants, mason's or other than Catholics???
I stand for Vigano he is speaking truth and trying to defend church
How did the Church depose the previous 33 anti-Popes? What Vigano is doing is what past prelates did with anti-Popes. Vigano's positions are accurate. Sad we have too many Priests, Bishops, and Cardinals who don't have the courage to be ready to give their lives for Jesus Christ. I stand with Vigano. Because I want my Church back!!!
The current crisis is worse than the Arian Heresy! We need a new Saint Athanasius not more novus order trained priest that over Intellectualize everything and put it all in such a PRETZEL that the Flock just gives up. Novus order priest are trained that way because everything has to be explained such as TRUE PRESENCE because their illicit modern liturgy doesnt line up with TRUE PRESENCE thereby the need for an explanation. In the True Catholic Mass theres no need to explain. Even a humble uneducated person; a 5 year old understands CHRIST IS TRULY PRESENT because of the Liturgy.
This is about OBLIGATION and OBLIGATION. Even if they lose their positions and pensions the priests and Bishops MUST SPEAK UP. Stop with the hesitation and the fear. GO FORTH. Priests and Bishops are called to White martyrdom and Red if necessary! BUT we all saw hoe the novus order trained Priests hid during covid. There's no True belief OBJECTIVELY SPEAKING. While Traditional Priests stayed open. That's how many found Tradition.
Too much over analyzing and questioning of Catholic beliefs in the modern Church. They want to rethink everything because they have lost belief in it.
We have an Athanasius….his name is Carlo Maria vigano.
God will have the last word on this!! Jesus I believe in you!!
Can one be in schism with an apostate church?
I think the schism will be between faithful Catholics who now have to try to discern following bergoglio as pope or taking the position of ab vigano. So a split within the Church.
@@stacycharrette8909 The Church has been split since Vatican ll.
@@stacycharrette8909 I think Vigano is right that there are 2 Churches, the Catholic Church which remains unchanged and the conciliar, synodal church. Both exist in the same space but are diametrically opposed to each other. I am a member of the former one and, God willing, always will be. As Vigano says it is an honour to be excluded from the latter one.
Here's the apparent theme of this channel: you do not have the right to make decisions about the fate of your own soul. JUST FOLLOW THE CURRENT LEADER. You should "avoid" talk about the heresies of Bergoglio. JUST BE A WIMP AND GO ALONG WITH ANYTHING YOU ARE TOLD BY BERGOGLIO.
Oh, and add this: Vigano isn't perfect, so let's all just meekly watch Bergoglio squash all opposition to his heresies, and do nothing.
I stand with Vigano.
We all know what is going on. Especially the Bishops & the Cardinals…the most WEAK & BETA of us all. They will pay dearly for their simpiness. I am with Archbishop Vigano. Man up!
Catholicism seems so bizarre and confused, going by these sites. All I find are people talking about Mary, tongues vs. hands, Latin vs. English, hatred of the pope, anger, strange saints, weird prophecies and signs and wonders, doomsday nonsense, obsession with sex and the devil, what a confused mess! Nobody ever talks about Jesus and his teaching: feeding the hungry, being peacemakers, not judging, not condemning, being merciful, loving one’s enemies, the hypocrisy and pride of religious leaders, etc. Are there any normal Catholic sites I can go to, or is this weird stuff all there is? Sad!
You forgot hatred of Protestants. Don’t know how they expect to gain converts. “And they shall know us by our love.” John 13:35
I support Vigano. People are not being mislead by this genration of wolves in sheep clothing.
Unfortunately I think many nominal Catholics are being mislead, and let’s face it, if 70% of Mass attending Catholics don’t believe in the true presence of our Lord in the Eucharist, most people will be fooled.
2 Timothy 4:3-4
For the time is coming when people will not put up with sound doctrine, but having itching ears, they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own desires, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander away to myths.
Thank you, Monsignor. I believe VII was meeded, but we still haven't lived it. I am privileged to attend a Mass a good priest says that fulfills all requirememts of VII. Im thrilled. He faces the Tabernacle, the ordinary is in Latin and Greek, altar rail. Most kneel. Receive on the tongue. He backs the Mass up by doing his best to fulfill his duties. Pastor of 2 Churches with 2 schools.
I believe that "many are called but few are chosen" refers to Catholics - as they have the fullness of the Faith. In other words, it might be the few that dare to speak out in good conscience - such as Vigano that will be saved. It is about love of God and neighbor. It is about courage. We can't judge the heart of anyone - no matter what position they take...only God can see their intent - whether it is a pure intent. That is what we will be judged on. I am not, of course, speaking to going against the true Catholic Faith - just that at any one time things might not be as clear cut as to the situation with the issues in our Church. For me, I just research what The Church has always taught and let that be my guide.
Vigano will be lost as he’s being excommunicated which means he is being cut off from the body of Christ! Anyone who sides with him will in a sense also be excommunicated!
To call Francis a false pope is schismatic, yet for Francis to make pronouncements that themselves are schismatic is not?? Msgr. Pope makes a most curious assertion by implication.
I stand with Archbishop Vigano.
Bishop Sanborn has just called Vigano the Athanasius of our time in past 18 hours
Amen and All Hail to Saint Athanasius of our time
Dr, Taylor Marshall gave a good analysis of Archbishop Vigano's rational for his actions, even though he does not agree with him on all points.
Vigano was Nuncio and did nothing about McCarrick
Further McCarrick used his Irish charm and fund raising skill to gain the attention of JP2 and Benedict. He was not given a Red Hat by Francis. In fact, Francis was the only one to take action against him. Yet the traditionalists sing vigano’s praises.
@@paulmclaughlin710that is absolutely a lie.
@@robertrivera1751 he was Nuncio and arranged that stupid meeting with the woman from KY. He was Nuncio as the McCarrick mess played out. The people that suppressed the McCarriick mess were acolytes of JP2 and Benedict.
@@robertrivera1751 Read what was sent to Vagino by Rome on what he was supposed to address the McCarrick problem. He did zero. This is a documented fact and American bishops know this and this why he has almost zero support from American bishops.
Francis I is making the same mistake that Leo X made in a similar situation.
Thank God for Archbishop Vigano you talk out of both sides of your mouth Father
He only appears to have lost the fight in the eyes of the world but with faithfulness to Christ Vigano is at peace with His Saviour.
Archbishop Vigano has been excommunicated from THE BERGOLIAN CHURCH!
No problem!
He is still OUR Archbishop Vigano in the TRUE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
WE IN AMERICA LOVE OUR ARCHBISHOP VIGANO!
The question is will Pope Francis go after people like Steve Bannon and Mel Gibson that pretty much say this same tripe every week and usually in public an on film? I've even heard members of Opus Dei say things like this habitually if not as publicly?
You cannot compromise the truth!
Why wasn' MC Carrick excommunicated ????
What is schism?
Monsignor Pope, in regards to the distortions- how is a Catholic to discern those?
What Does Francis Say ? You Have The Right To Remain Silent. 25.06.2024. Dublin.
Vigano has called for the bishops to address the validity of Bergoglio as pope.
Vigano has a basis like none that has been proposed by anyone who has questioned the validity of Bergoglio's election.
It's all about governance. Per governance it is not possible for Bergoglio being pope to be a doctrinal or dogmatic issue. It has to be governance and administration.
Archbishop addresses the Bergoglio anti-papacy according to evidence and the criteria of matter, knowledge and intent.
Bergoglio, unlike materially heretical John Paul and Benedict, goes beyond confusing matters of faith to contradicting moral doctrines.
It is THIS basis, along with Bergoglio's actions that demonstrate Bergoglio's intent. Bergoglio is not confused. His consistency is in repudiating Catholic Morals. It is this that shows Bergoglio could not muster the intent to be the pope, and thus not accept the office of the papacy. Bergoglio is like a man who doesn't know what the Catholic Sacrament of Matrimony is, nor the meaning of marriage in bearing and raising children (and taking care of his spouse) yet takes the marital vows. Marriage simply does not happen.
The bigger problem is not that Jorge Bergoglio is not pope. It is that we are all phenomenologists, nominalists, subjectivity and Modernist heretics and schismatics. I accuse ALL OF US of abandoning the True Church and Faith of Christ as a bunch of souls formed by an anti-Catholic Revolution, an anti-church. We just can't see this dragon because our fire eaters are the ones who faced it and were eaten alive by it. We have just been born and raised in the guts of this anti-Christian monster and have manifested a lack of ability to overcome the contrariness to Christ of this thing. It's the allegory of the cave. Vigano and others have escaped to see the sun and tell us of it's existence, but we persecute and crucify him and others for daring to expose our false beliefs and disturb our comfortable position of lamenting the decline of the so-called Catholic Church while doing nothing to stop the decline, reverse direction and fight for the True Faith and Church of the True Christ.
The Conciliar church is not going to prevail. God will keep it afloat long enough for us to wake up, evacuate it and board the True Barque of St. Peter.
If we want to be saved, we need to face facts and deal with the situation rather than look to false comforts of the heresy of Papalism. Only then can the real crisis be resolved, the papacy be restored and the comeback of Christ's Church be witnessed.
Remember, the devil can deceive even the elect.
It's awful times we live in, but they can end up being glorious by triumphing in Christ.
This is taking us away from the issue of (and the Pope’s recent comments on) “ftry” in the seminaries.
Thank you for pronouncing schism (sism) correctly. I’m fed up of hearing it pronounced skism.
True. Vigano has gone too far.
What do you mean by "Bishop vigano does not have the authority to say the pope is not valid".Are you very sure that the Holy spirit is not talking through him? What if the Holy spirit is talking through him??
Sigh.... Are you implying that anyone who says what you want to hear has the Holy Spirit speaking thru him?
Does nobody besides me look askance at all this carnal pomp and circumstance of invented titles of hierarchical significance? Cardinals, Archbishops, Canons, Monsignors and multiple others?
The church is a hierarchy.
Life Site News is supporting Vigano.
The man of lawlessness spoken of in 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 is emerging.
I stand with maria vigano
I can't help feeling that being obedient to pope Francis will get you a to hell, and, i don't pray for his intentions,but rather for his conversion and salvation.
I STAND WITH VIGANO FOR CHRIST OUR SAVIOR!!!
Stand with Arcbishop of Viganol
Yeah it’s a sin. Duh. Pray for him but you don’t stand against the pope. What’s wrong with you people???
Supporting Vigano is schismatic, and it is for this reason, sinful.
And also your pachamama Frances.
1 corinthians 1:12
I don't stand with Arch bishop vigano I stand with the successor of Peter period
If Vigano didn't agree with Pope Francis, he should've just waited! Pope Francis won't live forever! Vigano was inpatient!
No, he has not gone too far.
He is the only one brave enough to call the kettle black
If Vigano is a fake, then he will collapse under the weight of his own wickedness, but on the other hand, if he's completely and verifiably accurate, then Francis' papacy will fall flat on its face! The way I see it, it's going to be one or the other! There's really is no schism here. It's a case of clarification and authentication.
1st Timothy 2:5 There is one mediator between man and God, the man Christ Jesus.
Well.....Francis is probably one of the worst if not THE worst Pope we've had ever....past bad Popes were personally degenerate, but this guy PROMOTES it....an entirely different animal.
One day he seems to uphold a Catholic belief, the next day he shoots it down. Is he insane?
He's nearly as bad as Paul VI
@@marcokite He's worse.
What is worst doing what V is doing or murdering HIS creation with a B . W . that the B . O . R . promoted and is still promoting .
Too many clergy in high places go along to get along.
Absolutely, and many of their congregations, parishioners will follow.
Thank you Msgr Pope for your clear and concise explanation. The times we live in are so hard. Abp Vigano has gone too far. too many accusations without proof. Doesn't this become slander? And all us lay people have no authority here. Let us pray and carry the cross of all this anguish in Holy Mother Church offering all to Our Lady of Sorrows to clean up all our self love and perhaps enoble our sorrows as prayer for the Pope and Church. Only God can sort this out. In faith we must believe and continue on. (1Pe4:12-13, 2Pe3:8-9, 1Co11:19, Mt16:18-19)
Just because we haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it’s not there.
@@timothyjackson4653 then keep it to yourself until you have proof. look up the definition of slander (Thomas Aquinas as well as civil law) Learn your faith, traditional Catholic teaching on redemptive suffering.
@@carolc4791 There’s a difference between slander and accountability. That attitude of being over cautious to avoid slander is what granted too many priests and bishops sustained impunity as countless victims were scandalized and their bonds with the mystical body became damaged. There can be lots of evidence to support Vigano’s claims, but since things are being handled behind closed doors, we don’t know. Just as Pope Francis should not be a victim of slander neither should Vigano.
@@timothyjackson4653 study the ecclesiology of the Church and the place of lay people. We are to know our faith and reject anything contrary to it. But it is not for a lay person to declare a pope or anyone else a heretic.If you are concerned about someone's theology then just don't read any of it and stick to the saints and pray. We are to stay in the Church which means in communion with the Pope (read Bellarmine) even if we don't agree with everything he says and does; listen to what Msgr Pope just said; We are to pray, fast offer our sorrows for all this anguish. Review the work of the Holy Spirit in the Church (read Guarenger for the octave of Pentecost) Learn the value of redemptive suffering. look to the saints (ST Athanasius was excommunicated multiple times. He accepted the rule of the superiors of the Church and left all in the hands of God and was eventually exonerated.) The ways of the saints, the ways of true Catholicism are difficult to walk but let us who declare ourselves traditional Catholics walk this arduous and anguish filled walk we have been placed in. If your own father was accused of having an affair - all talk- no proof- would you go to your mother and siblings and pronounce he is an adulterer without proof? would you say where there is smoke there is fire?would you put your family through such an ordeal without concrete proof? "But of this one thing be not ignorant, my beloved, that one day with the Lord is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord delayeth not His promise, as some imagine, but dealeth patiently, for your sake, not willing that any should perish, but that all should return to penance. ( 2Pe 3:8-9) I'm sure glad that God allowed me to live and not die in the mortal sins I was committing in my youth. I'm glad that His kindness led me to repentance (Ro2:4) the prayers of my family saved me. May I return the favor to the Church hierarchy by praying for them and leaving all in the hands of God His time and His way. There will come a time when all this will end, Mary's Immaculate Heart will prevail. The gates of hell will not prevail against the Church (Mt 16;18) Hold steadfast to those infused virtues of faith hope and love infused in our souls at our baptism.
He may be pope but he’s not God remember that!!!
While I do not stand with Viganò, I do have the following questions:
1. If Viganò believes there is no pope at the moment, are we all in schism every time there is a sede vacante? In other words, can you be in communion with a headless Church?
2. If hypothetically, a heretic became pope, would that heretic not then have the ultimate get out of jail free card? It would seem to me that Pope Francis, prior to excommunicating Viganò would need to do one of the following: a. refute Vigano’s claim that he is a heretic, or b. refute the claim that a pope loses the papacy for professing heresy.
HEBREWS 5:9 SAYS YOU OBEY JESUS NOT THE POPE!
The lawful Bishop of Rome, as the successor to St. Peter, bears full responsibility for all of the ills which currently beset the Church. Pope Benedict XVI was only too pleased to step down from the Petrine Office, since, by doing so, he ceased to be directly personally liable for the ongoing ills of the Church. Pope Francis is, of course, the lawful Bishop of Rome, the successor of St. Peter and personally responsible for all of the ills which currently beset the Church. I expect he wishes that he was not in that position! However, he is. The arguments put forward by Archbishop Vigano are unworthy of a man of his intellectual calibre. He is, obviously, a very unhappy man.
If he were happy I would not give him a second thought. He is unhappy for the Church, rightfully so, but you cannot judge his heart. My heart is happy in Jesus, but I am very unhappy with the suffering Body of Christ - I am old, and it wasn't always so.
The truth hurts.
No, it is not! I stand withAchBishop Vigano!
Pope Francis is the Pope. Have humility.
'Humility' is not something Jorge Bergoglio is too familiar with 😄
You should have more humility and listen to an archbishop who actually has a doctorate in canon law rather than clinging to your own wishful thinking and rose colored glasses.
Too wishy washy Monsignor, far too wishy washy.
He seems to be a "company man".
You have to look yourself in the mirror
Archbishop Viganò is a sincere and brave person in Jesus Christ`s Roman Catholic Church. Let us pray for him!
The Antichrist of the end times has already arrived:
"Let no one deceive you in any way. For unless the apostasy comes first and the lawless one is revealed, the one doomed to perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god and object of worship, so as to seat himself in the temple of God, claiming that he is a god - do you not recall that while I was still with you I told you these things? And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. But the one who restrains is to do so only for the present, until he is removed from the scene. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord [Jesus] will kill with the breath of his mouth and render powerless by the manifestation of his coming, the one whose coming springs from the power of Satan in every mighty deed and in signs and wonders that lie, and in every wicked deceit for those who are perishing because they have not accepted the love of truth so that they may be saved."
(2 Thessalonians 2:3-10, Catholic Bible)
Jesus Christ will come soon! Please pray!
IT'S A SIN TO STAND WITH THE FALSE PROPHET OF REVELATION ...
I stand with the Vicar of Christ! Long Live Christ the KIng! Down with Schismatics!
This pope undermined his own authority by not including the title Vicar of Christ in the Vatican yearbook. It appears he doesn't want us to see him in the role as Vicar of Christ.
@@marnatz5 I can tell you've been listening to Father Alman and his lies about the Holy Father. Pope Francis is the Vicar of Christ. A simple Google search would clear this up for you. Why do you choose to believe in lies? Do you know who is the father of lies? Are you one of his slaves? I hope you haven't been spreading this lie yourself, although I feel It might be too late. If you have, repent.
@@lo5182 Actually I don't listen to Fr. Altman. But for many reasons, I discern this pope doesn't care for his job definition. The heavily footnoted
book THE POLITICAL POPE by George Neumayr was quite the sad eye opener. Also before erecting that statue of Luther in the Vatican I wished this pope had read the equally heavily footnoted book THE FACTS ABOUT LUTHER by MSGR Patrick O'Hare.
@@marnatz5 What are your reasons? Please do tell. Like I said, a simple google search will tell you that the Holy Father never abandoned the title Vicar of Christ. I stand with the Vicar of Christ! Long Live Christ the KIng! Down with Schismatics!
@@lo5182 The Church has had good popes and bad popes. Heavy is their responsibility! I pray daily for PF.
He isn’t a cardinal. Most of Vigano’s claims turned out to be false and it turns out Vigano didn’t follow up on credible accusations against McCarrick when he was papal nuncio. Also, papal resignations can’t be done by pressure. There is no question Francis is pope because of peaceful and universal acceptance of his pontificate at the time of his election. So, it is not just an issue that Vigano doesn’t have the authority to say Francis isn’t the pope but it is an issue that would falsify the Catholic Church if Vigano is right. Francis isn’t being selective in “persecuting” anyone. Francis is the one who opened the current investigation on Rupnik. It is weird there is mercy shown here for Vigano on laicization but the same mercy isn’t extended to Pope Francis in accurately representing his pontificate. See my channel for a more balanced and accurate take on Vigano and Pope Francis.
You are not a cardinal. Bergoglio's claims turned out to be false and it turns out Bergoglio didn’t follow up on credible accusations against Traditional Catholics. Alas!! - papal resignations can’t be done by pressure. There is a HUGE question as to whether Bergoglio is pope or not due to his attacks on the church. So, it is not just an issue that Bergoglio doesn’t have the authority to attack the church. Bergoglio is VERY VERY VERY selective in “persecuting” various bishops, priests and groups, that's FACT, no one disputes that. Bergoglio is the one who is protecting Rupnik. It is weird there is mercy shown here for Bergoglio despite his attacks on Roman Catholics but the same mercy isn’t extended to Traditional Roman Catholic bishop, priests and groups by Bergoglio and his henchmen.
See Taylor Marshall and Anthony Stine's CZcams channels for an accurate take on the current 'pontificate' imposed by Bergoglio and his cronies.
Are you rainbow?
Vatican II is false. Viganò is a hero
I stand with Vigano. Francis is a disgrace and should resign!
I expect that Vigano will be excommunicated, and afterwards he will seek reception into the Russian Orthodox Church.
He would never! He clearly states his union with the Catholic Church. He is adamant about not being in schism with the Church.
@@stacycharrette8909 He subscribes to the position that Moscow is the Third Rome.
Bergoglio is no Pope. He's the Biblical False Prophet. I stand with Archbishop Carlo María Vigano 🙏🌹💞✝️🛐💞🌹🙏‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
Poison has always worked in the past
I do not hold with many things PF has done but Archbishop Vigano declaration that PF is not the pope, and Vat11 is invalid is wrong.
I do not hold with many things PF has done but Archbishop Vigano declaration that PF is not the pope, and Vat11 is invalid is RIGHT!!!
It is licit to stand with Viganò in prayer without agreeing to his schism.
Pray with the church. Vigano is separated with the church, why connect to a man who is bringing the sheep away from the safety of the true one Holy and Apostolic Church? He's literally saying that all the masses he's said for 40 years was not valid. So he's denying Jesus, because his new audience who embrace him think that way
@@JohnLeaps Nobody who defends the Church is "separated" from thr Church. It might appear that Vigano is separated from it, but it's really those who are abusing their power who are really separated because they are defying God.
@@sketchartist1964 nope, your reading false news. Vigano is definitely separated
@@JohnLeaps You believe pope Francis is being faithful to the Church?
@@sketchartist1964 of course. He's addressed every problem that has attacked the church. I am doing a documentary on it. It's clear but people don't read the true documentations, they want to believe the falsehoods...they don't trust in God's church. I do. Persecute me, for believing in Jesus's promise
I stand with Vigano, it is the church of Jesus Christ not the church of francis. Spineless religious refuse to stand up against francis. Not my pope. God will intercede for us.
And another protestant church starts by a priest let’s not act like we’ve never seen this before in history
Straw man…..he CLEARLY states that he loves the Catholic Church is will never leave.
Archbishop Vigano has been a poor example of dissent. When dissent becomes scandalous and defiant, Pope Francis has the authority and obligation to protect the Deposit of Faith.
This man is not a pope he should be ashamed of himself trying to change catholic teachings and the word of God. May our lord protect Archbishop Vigano
I stand for bp bigano is to be good catholic
I stand with vigano
sloppy explanation made of jelly