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  • čas přidán 11. 03. 2024
  • Municipalities across Ontario are working to find solutions to the homelessness crisis. CBC’s Lorenda Reddekopp went to Peterborough to learn more about its transitional housing program, where city staff have turned a former parking lot into space to house nearly 50 people in modular cabins.
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Komentáře • 539

  • @JP..5-.
    @JP..5-. Před 5 měsíci +65

    I would have preferred a news segment explaining why the costs are so high.

    • @AceDude944
      @AceDude944 Před 5 měsíci

      They can't say too much that would make the Liberals look bad because their paychecks depend on it!

    • @lyns2541
      @lyns2541 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Me to INEXCUSABLE!

    • @EndlessFunctionality
      @EndlessFunctionality Před 4 měsíci

      Oh you know there's many talking heads skimming off the top

    • @strumminfuel4625
      @strumminfuel4625 Před 4 měsíci

      The municipality and fire department keeping things up to code im sure are not cheap. They had to redesign sea cans for human occupancy, I know.
      You were I could do that in our backyard quite easily but there Is a ton of red tape i'm sure.

    • @CoryResilient
      @CoryResilient Před 4 měsíci

      So what about sober homeless people? You can't mix sober people with users no one will get away from addiction like that. You need a sober lot and a lot for users. Foundation it around nature. It doesn't always have to be right in the middle of a city.

  • @DokisKalin1
    @DokisKalin1 Před 5 měsíci +134

    I'm sorry but nobody should be expected to pay $560/month for a shed in a government owned project.

    • @clarifyingquestions
      @clarifyingquestions Před 5 měsíci +6

      people need to get to work - it s called being an adult

    • @darkbrightnorth
      @darkbrightnorth Před 5 měsíci +7

      Those should be free as transitional housing until real housing is built

    • @jvssocialmedia2459
      @jvssocialmedia2459 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Cheap. You need to share a bedroom, washroom, and kitchen AND pay more in the private market plus utilities with no free food. These have separate entrances, ... Plus the rent will actually be covered by taxpayers through refugee assistance, odsp, or welfare.

    • @izzydeadyet7336
      @izzydeadyet7336 Před 5 měsíci +5

      ​​@@clarifyingquestions the rents have skyrocketed out of control! We couldn't find a 2 bedroom for under two grand a month, $5000 first and last.. a single parent can't afford that, seniors can't afford that, young people cant afford it. So maybe you're lucky enough to have an awesome job making 40 an hour, but most of us don't

    • @stylestrut
      @stylestrut Před 5 měsíci

      ​@darkbrightnorth no there shouldn't people who put them selves in harm should have to deal with consequences one being you apartment is a shed

  • @kevintorgrimson8529
    @kevintorgrimson8529 Před 5 měsíci +29

    When Trailer Park boys is considered luxury living compared to this we are in trouble.

  • @jwychau
    @jwychau Před 5 měsíci +183

    2 million a year for 50 modular cabins, no kitchen no bathrooms? the math is not mathing

    • @liberalsarecriminalslyings4370
      @liberalsarecriminalslyings4370 Před 5 měsíci +2

      One million to build the sheds and one million to the corrupt liberals

    • @Damieno2
      @Damieno2 Před 5 měsíci +11

      There is a kitchen and bathrooms in the service hub building on site. One meal a day is also provided to residents.

    • @sevenhighclub2339
      @sevenhighclub2339 Před 5 měsíci +15

      @@Damieno2you are so naive

    • @bigb.999
      @bigb.999 Před 5 měsíci +16

      They actually spent $1.4 million on the construction and setup for the modular cabins including a separate bathroom unit. The other million went towards $800k on site prep and $200k to renovate an existing city property in order to provide laundry facilities and a kitchenette.

    • @davemunt573
      @davemunt573 Před 5 měsíci +12

      Your right. It doesn't add up.2 million to maintain. Someone is making money on the side

  • @andrewmccoll1582
    @andrewmccoll1582 Před 5 měsíci +64

    No idea how governments can spend 10x what should be required on these projects. 2.5 million for a concentration camp?

    • @ahhmm5381
      @ahhmm5381 Před 5 měsíci +7

      A concentration camp?? Seriously?
      Stop trolling

    • @andrewmccoll1582
      @andrewmccoll1582 Před 5 měsíci +8

      @@ahhmm5381 Okay a little too far out there of a term, but they are essentially prison cells and clustered together like that in an out-of-the-way location, you are free to make your own inferences.
      However, this is better than nothing so we really are at an impasse. Isn't a terrible solution better than no solution at all?

    • @ahhmm5381
      @ahhmm5381 Před 5 měsíci +5

      ​@@andrewmccoll1582 NOT a prison cell either, as residents can leave at will.

    • @catherinewilson1079
      @catherinewilson1079 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Scams, all of them.

    • @beautyandthesimp
      @beautyandthesimp Před 5 měsíci +4

      Corruption

  • @cortashaelam320
    @cortashaelam320 Před 5 měsíci +126

    No kitchen or bathroom and have to pay over $500? That's ridiculous. Maybe $200 or $300 a month.

    • @beautyandthesimp
      @beautyandthesimp Před 5 měsíci +13

      It should be 50 dollars

    • @AnthemUnanthemed
      @AnthemUnanthemed Před 5 měsíci +7

      especially since taking them off the street already makes it thousands of dollars cheaper than just leaving them homeless and dealing with the public clean up and increased healthcare costs because being homeless makes you more at risk to illness and mental health issues, often the same issues that end up limiting their access to assistance are caused by homelessness, the government is being very slow at reversing a world wide policy of criminal negligence (or in some cases malice) to some specific illnesses and disabilities.

    • @rosieone5670
      @rosieone5670 Před 5 měsíci +1

      You probably spend more at Tim Hortons in a month. Have you got a better plan ?

    • @dorothysmith3850
      @dorothysmith3850 Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@rosieone5670Adding a bathroom and at least a cooktop? 🤷‍♀️

    • @TonyMontanaDS
      @TonyMontanaDS Před 5 měsíci +3

      They have a kitchen and bathroom plus 1 mean a day in the main building right beside it and 24hr security and maintenance of the facilities. Could be a bit cheaper but this is a pilot program.

  • @xNIMZx1
    @xNIMZx1 Před 5 měsíci +141

    the fact that some has to pay 560 doillars to live in a box is nuts

    • @conradcoolerfiend
      @conradcoolerfiend Před 5 měsíci +20

      yeah that is approaching renting a room in a roommates situation. I'm not against charging a nominal fee but i thought it would be more like $100-200.

    • @shauncameron8390
      @shauncameron8390 Před 5 měsíci

      You have only high building and maintenance costs to thank for that.

    • @dickdavidson3616
      @dickdavidson3616 Před 5 měsíci +3

      It’s not fixed, it’s based on a percentage of their income

    • @kathrynjanzen5618
      @kathrynjanzen5618 Před 5 měsíci +1

      But their income is probably welfare. ​@@dickdavidson3616

    • @bengt_axle
      @bengt_axle Před 5 měsíci +5

      It is not about the space. It is about getting those who are struggling with homelessness due to addiction or other circumstances, to effect some change in their lives, so that they will be able to move out. It is unique in that the occupants can slowly reduce their drug dependency, rather than have them being taken up by the health care system at 10X the cost, pushing out other patients who need operations and other care. If someone can turn around their life and still pay rent, that is a win for society. They are not living on the street and if they can access a rehab program without having to be housed in a specialized facility, which is also a savings for the health care system.

  • @themag221
    @themag221 Před 5 měsíci +90

    i counted 52 tiny home some 2.5 million divided be 52 is aprox 48k per tiny home... for something that doesnt have water or kitchen. someone defo made a lot of money making those. could probably build those for 10k max, our tax spenders are jokes

    • @annetoronto5474
      @annetoronto5474 Před 5 měsíci +8

      And they are making these people pay rent for a $3000 shed , $500 per month!

    • @sharinglungs3226
      @sharinglungs3226 Před 5 měsíci +8

      Plus the yearly running costs which I would love to know how that adds up. Is it mostly staff cost or are these admins raking in $200k salaries?

    • @annetoronto5474
      @annetoronto5474 Před 5 měsíci

      @@sharinglungs3226 , yes! This has been going on in the UK, their government admits that the money is being mismanaged and the so called support for these drugs addicts is a joke…. It’s all a scam!

    • @Fenthule
      @Fenthule Před 5 měsíci

      @@sharinglungs3226 security and other services like porta potties/sanitation, electricity, etc. plus yea there's a bunch of staff since the community hub it's part of is available to them 24/7.

    • @davidjames4915
      @davidjames4915 Před 5 měsíci +7

      If only they were tiny homes as they have no facilities. They are little more than shacks. They could have just bought camper trailers for $30k or so apiece. Since there are no facilities one supposes those are communal somewhere and probably where some (most?) of that budget went.
      And for some reason they fitted each one with a baseboard heater and an air conditioner rather than a heat pump so they've pretty much ensured they've got themselves the most expensive means of heating around. Even so, I can't even fathom how this is all costing another $2M annually to run.

  • @kateh9768
    @kateh9768 Před 5 měsíci +22

    Over 2 million for storage sheds!? That’s crazy😮

    • @kltil5082
      @kltil5082 Před 5 měsíci

      On top of each person paying almost 600 per month. Something is definitely up

  • @morgangentle1515
    @morgangentle1515 Před 5 měsíci +11

    560 a month is disgusting ,, not even a washroom

  • @anonoumos
    @anonoumos Před 5 měsíci +9

    homeless paying $500??? jesus. what is the cost going into, theyre paying the salaries of the on-site staff watching them take drugs....

  • @johncros2281
    @johncros2281 Před 5 měsíci +17

    There’s no peace in that area if they allow them to use drugs. If you have neighbours that are mentally ill it’s not safe for others.

    • @jackies.1338
      @jackies.1338 Před 2 měsíci

      I'm unsafe living near people in an apartment building who supposedly aren't mentally ill including the Superintendent

  • @Curious245
    @Curious245 Před 5 měsíci +34

    You can’t cook food ?!?!?! Expensive for a closet . Hope they will eventually get out of these office space .

    • @einat1622
      @einat1622 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Maybe there's a shared kitchen space? A microwave is a game changer. Certainty not the worse part of it.

  • @tylermca8616
    @tylermca8616 Před 5 měsíci +9

    There's a lot of money in homelessness. It'll never go away.

  • @grizzlegreezz9696
    @grizzlegreezz9696 Před 5 měsíci +13

    This is a glorified jail cell. Why not just build more shelters. Those things should be free to the public so no one sleeps on the streets.

    • @annetoronto5474
      @annetoronto5474 Před 5 měsíci +3

      There is too much violence from mental illness and drug abuse in the shelters… that’s why many people sleep on the streets. These people are almost beyond help, they are run by their addiction.

    • @CharCanuck14
      @CharCanuck14 Před 5 měsíci

      @@annetoronto5474 I disagree. It all starts with mental illness which I feel the government health system should be addressing. When a person's trauma, mental illness isn't being helped then one may turn to drugs to relieve the pain, hence addiction. The cost of addiction ends with homelessness. Get to the root - mental illness.

    • @annetoronto5474
      @annetoronto5474 Před 5 měsíci

      @@CharCanuck14 Trudeau government making drugs legal and accessible doesn’t help, especially since the root to mental illness is stress, and stress is often caused by financial problems. Trudeau government is to blame for a lot of societal problems, lack of healthcare, housing shortages, soft on crime, access to drugs instead of help.

    • @CharCanuck14
      @CharCanuck14 Před 5 měsíci

      @@annetoronto5474 Can't fully agree with you. The legalization & accessibility of cannabis has nothing to do with the issues we're talking about. I DO fully agree with you about the lack of healthcare.....especially mental health care. I speak of this through experience as I had/have mental health issues as well as being a former opioid addict who experienced homelessness twice. My daughter is a psychiatric nurse who sees this lack of health care all the time. BTW.....I'm a retired RN, so those 3 issues could happen to any of us.
      I'm glad that we're talking about this Anne....thank you for your comments.

  • @Nunyabizness_
    @Nunyabizness_ Před 5 měsíci +16

    How do homeless people even afford $500 a month?

    • @ahhmm5381
      @ahhmm5381 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Homeless doesn't necessarily mean unemployed.
      Just the security, where your things don't get stolen is probably worth a decent amount.

    • @milhouse8166
      @milhouse8166 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@@ahhmm5381they don't even own $500 worth of stuff

    • @Fenthule
      @Fenthule Před 5 měsíci +8

      really? there's SOO MANY homeless people who work full time jobs these days. People who live in their cars for instance and shower in gyms. It's what replaced the dead "middle class" known as the working poor.

    • @Mikinaak2023
      @Mikinaak2023 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Welfare payments. Won't have much to live on.

    • @highwayhydroponics5823
      @highwayhydroponics5823 Před 5 měsíci

      Welfare so tax payer.

  • @crisc1107
    @crisc1107 Před 5 měsíci +15

    Canadian Government should help their own ppl before helping other in another Country

    • @bunsdad4530
      @bunsdad4530 Před 5 měsíci

      The problem is that if the us loses reserve currency there will be no money because we have allowed all of it to go to our ruling class

    • @stevea6313
      @stevea6313 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Agreed. We just flushed $123 million down the drain in Haiti 3 weeks ago. I'd rather take our people off the streets. Even if the solution has issues at least it's trying something new

  • @santaclosed5062
    @santaclosed5062 Před 5 měsíci +8

    More than 500 bucks for a tin can without sanitary? A slightly improved version of four penny coffins! Since when lesser than a prison cell is considered as a house? While in some countries, there is simply no homelessness due to home as a basic right, here, we start extorting even homeless people…

  • @einat1622
    @einat1622 Před 5 měsíci +22

    Drug consumption is allowed, but no violence policy. It sounds contradictory. 550 a month sound high for a homeless person.

    • @jvssocialmedia2459
      @jvssocialmedia2459 Před 5 měsíci

      Welfare, odsp, migrant/refugee assistance. All free through taxpayers.

    • @MeMe-zq7qd
      @MeMe-zq7qd Před 5 měsíci

      Didn’t they say the rent was based on income?

    • @user-wg2vw3mz1v
      @user-wg2vw3mz1v Před 5 měsíci +3

      How is it contradictory? You know it's possible to do drugs and be peaceful, right? You also understand that it's possible to be violent while sober? Or is that caricature burned so deeply into your mind after years of being propagandized that you cannot distinguish the two?

    • @banzi403
      @banzi403 Před 5 měsíci

      Meanwhile in reality, enabling drug abuse isn't working @@user-wg2vw3mz1v

    • @CharCanuck14
      @CharCanuck14 Před 5 měsíci

      @@user-wg2vw3mz1v Thank you! Now, if we could get that message across to those who still think "Reefer Madness" is a documentary.
      Cheers from Peterborough

  • @b1ngkz57
    @b1ngkz57 Před 5 měsíci +6

    A storage room without a shower,kitchen etc is now consider a home in canada.

  • @ontherun1805
    @ontherun1805 Před 5 měsíci +15

    A room... Didn't see any showers, washrooms, kitchens...?

    • @lyns2541
      @lyns2541 Před 5 měsíci +1

      There were non

    • @CharCanuck14
      @CharCanuck14 Před 5 měsíci

      A room that's warm in the winter & cool in the summer, with a bed off the ground.....a step up from the tent that many called home - a tent with no showers, washrooms, kitchens, fridges or locks. I'd say this is a good start for those residents of Peterborough.

  • @h.calvert3165
    @h.calvert3165 Před 5 měsíci +5

    One woman said she was already a fentanyl addict BEFORE she became homeless. Yet drug use is allowed here. Does no one see the problem? Only non-druggies should be getting these homes! Then they would be an incentive to get clean. There ARE people with no addictions or mental health problems who wind up on the street, due to catastrophic financial reverses. Help them first, because with a bit of help, they'll quickly get back on their feet & age out of the system. 👍🏻

    • @mraso30
      @mraso30 Před 5 měsíci

      Most homeless people are alcoholics... You gonna ban alcohol too?

  • @Thecody503
    @Thecody503 Před 5 měsíci +8

    $500 is too much

  • @Alex-qo7ke
    @Alex-qo7ke Před 5 měsíci +13

    I guess my main question is, how many people could you fit on this land by building a couple of lowrise with mainly bachelor sized apartments? everyone could have their own washroom, kitchenette, still pay their little 500 dollars a month and be actually housed. With two ten floor low rises im sure you could triple the amount of folks being helped here, and give them a better quality of life.

    • @jackies.1338
      @jackies.1338 Před 2 měsíci +1

      The city needs the money to build it from the Conservative provincial government and the Liberal federal governments who only cater to the most wealthy. Peterborough already needs 122 million for upkeep and repairs of current social housing.

  • @JSRTales
    @JSRTales Před 5 měsíci +33

    2.5 mill per year to operate? probably 2 mill for middle men 😊

    • @ninow5
      @ninow5 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Would be cheaper to operate a condo building... 😅

    • @ninow5
      @ninow5 Před 5 měsíci +3

      My condo building probably operate less than 2.5m... 😅

    • @jackies.1338
      @jackies.1338 Před 2 měsíci +1

      The city gets rent.

  • @candacestuifbergen3219
    @candacestuifbergen3219 Před 5 měsíci +10

    Is this really housing first when there are no washroom/bathing and cooking facilities in unit? Can that even be something you charge money for as a "rental" this sets the standard for the landlords otherwise they'll likely follow suit. I'm glad it's private and it's warm and has windows but you can buy a used seacan for $500 online so basically with less than a month's rent they could purchase one of these outright. Can we please do better and treat people like humans instead of providing coffins with a view

  • @neonparadise3095
    @neonparadise3095 Před 5 měsíci +6

    It's a shame, it look likes a shanty town or a "favela" in Brazil, Canada can't allow it those people must have proper housing.

  • @jjitjare
    @jjitjare Před 5 měsíci +11

    why noboby asked about how they use toilet or even wash hands.

    • @ahhmm5381
      @ahhmm5381 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Probably something communal

  • @jeffelder3583
    @jeffelder3583 Před 5 měsíci +9

    no, they are not homes... they are shipping containers

  • @spikehawley6682
    @spikehawley6682 Před 5 měsíci +4

    i was sure a "house" included a way to cook, crap and shower.. wtf. where is the actual affordable housing? thats BS!

  • @ryanhogan359
    @ryanhogan359 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Where are the churches in all of this..!?!? Peterborough has 50-60 churches PAYING NO TAXES on behemoth buildings, that are sitting on some of the most prime real-estate in the city..! Taxing the churches would MORE than cover the costs associated with these micro homes! I mean,...come on,...isn't this why we DON'T tax churches, because they're supposed to be helping the impoverished?

  • @brendasmurdoch8551
    @brendasmurdoch8551 Před 5 měsíci +4

    $566 a month?!?!

  • @catherinewilson1079
    @catherinewilson1079 Před 5 měsíci +8

    $500.+ a month rent!!! Who is getting the profits??? Insane!!!

  • @majun26
    @majun26 Před 5 měsíci +19

    Almost 600 dollars to live in a shed, that's more than any of the first several places I lived when I first moved out on my own. I counted 50 sheds. If it cost two million to build this crap, that's 40,000 per shed, oh, sorry, I mean "modular cabin." This is both inhumane, and a massive scam.

    • @highwayhydroponics5823
      @highwayhydroponics5823 Před 5 měsíci

      Scam yes inhumane no they chose drugs over housing.

    • @electrodacus
      @electrodacus Před 5 měsíci

      It costs $48000 to build but what is way worse is that it costs $40000 / year to maintain. It makes no sense.

  • @lannguyen-pu1db
    @lannguyen-pu1db Před 5 měsíci +10

    They should really provide a supervised communal kitchen and bathroom space nearby for the same price or else reduce the rent to $200/month.

    • @jvssocialmedia2459
      @jvssocialmedia2459 Před 5 měsíci

      Taxpayers are paying rent anyways thru welfare, odsp, mugrant/refugee programs.

    • @mraso30
      @mraso30 Před 5 měsíci +1

      It does have that... Still, they're asking too much money anyways. These people are straight off the streets! Should be a few months of FREE rent followed by either something like $300 ($10 / day) rent, or if you don't have a job yet, perhaps you are required to do some service work within the little community, say 1 - 2 hours each day, to pull your weight (would help to slowly get rid of the "staff" of this place, who could then move on to help set up the NEXT tiny-homes community, because lord knows we need a lot more of these if we're to even half-way solve our homelessness issues).

  • @catherinewilson1079
    @catherinewilson1079 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Do those buildings have NO INSULATION???

  • @allenprice-uu3sy
    @allenprice-uu3sy Před 5 měsíci +10

    This is an internment camp

  • @HavendaleBlvd80
    @HavendaleBlvd80 Před 5 měsíci +2

    All this effort to help individual's get on their feet again, is just not enough.
    Where is the counseling rather than allowing drug use?

  • @jessd4048
    @jessd4048 Před 5 měsíci +13

    This is NOT an unambiguous success story- folk are *paying hundreds* per month to be‘housed’ in garden sheds. There are much better & more dignified tiny home community models out there. Good grief. A harm reduction approach is laudable but these units are less space than a horse would be stabled in. Canada must do better than this.

    • @user-wg2vw3mz1v
      @user-wg2vw3mz1v Před 5 měsíci +3

      Better than the streets. They are garden sheds with heating, AC, a pantry, a bed, and locked door. Clearly somebody took the time to figure out the most important needs for the homeless: security for self and essential possessions, protection from extreme temperatures, sleep, and sustenance.

    • @CharCanuck14
      @CharCanuck14 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@user-wg2vw3mz1v You're right ~ this wasn't brought together overnight. A lot of time & thought was put into it. Same with our harm reduction centre. I see our city as actively caring for people without housing & those with addiction issues. Now, if our government would properly deal with the mental health issues, which are usually the basis of addiction that leads to homelessness.

  • @ClintonT.Biddle
    @ClintonT.Biddle Před 5 měsíci +4

    $500/mo. To live in a shed ?!?
    Come on Canada, we can do better than that.
    Why doesn’t the Federal Govt. buy hotels, 1 in each queen city and let the homeless live there.
    It would be far better than a shed and probably cheaper...

  • @1964mcqueen
    @1964mcqueen Před 5 měsíci +29

    Housing First is the way to go.
    You're setting a great example Peterborough.

    • @annetoronto5474
      @annetoronto5474 Před 5 měsíci +4

      How? This project is a waste of money. These people need real help!

    • @1964mcqueen
      @1964mcqueen Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@annetoronto5474 Yes, starting with housing.
      What do you propose?

    • @annetoronto5474
      @annetoronto5474 Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@1964mcqueen , they need to get these drugs out of our country, communities, and get these people rehab.

    • @Fenthule
      @Fenthule Před 5 měsíci

      @@annetoronto5474 rehab costs WAYY more than these days, although I agree that should be the ultimate goal. However "get them out of the country" is literally never going to happen. That's simply unrealistic. The ONLY way we're going to actually combat the problem is to decriminalize drugs, and produce them ourselves and make sure that addicts are taking clean medical grade stuff from doctors who can convince them to get help instead of the dirty as hell street stuff that's been cut and laced with god knows what. The Mexican cartels buy the precursor drugs from Chinese drug synthesizers and then cook it in the jungle and smuggle it up into the US and here. There's only 1 way to combat that and it's to offer them a cleaner product and cut them out entirely. ONLY THEN will we be able to convince addicts to get into treatment, which btw is SORELY lacking. We need *significantly* more treatment and addiction centers before that would be possible too.

    • @1964mcqueen
      @1964mcqueen Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@tinadixon8186 OK, so you would have them stay in their tents until we build enough housing to clear up the 15 year wait-list, to put them in public housing that has none of the supports, nor the security that these transitional units have.
      Did you even listen to the video?

  • @mrdeetJ
    @mrdeetJ Před 5 měsíci +20

    2 mil, so 40 k a year per unit. Plus what they pay. Doesnt seem very efficient. I know tiny houses are trendy. But are they really more efficient then an apartment building. Or a motel style building.

    • @jonm3131
      @jonm3131 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Nope

    • @christinaserpa3306
      @christinaserpa3306 Před 5 měsíci +2

      No - but trailer type rvs would have been cheaper than this- with the possibility of bathroom. I don’t understand why they spent this much - they could have double the units buying fully equipment 16-18 foot trailers with furniture incorporated…

    • @Fenthule
      @Fenthule Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@christinaserpa3306 Or retrofitted a bunch of old shipping containers.

    • @UnderTheIceburg
      @UnderTheIceburg Před 5 měsíci

      Raw cost of materials is mild, most of the cost is wrapped up in labour and bureaucracy.

  • @donnienimfo
    @donnienimfo Před 5 měsíci +19

    $500 no bathroom lol

  • @JacobConkin
    @JacobConkin Před 5 měsíci +3

    Im from Peterborough, and these "homes" are awful for our city. Only drug users use them and they actively use drugs downtown and in these "camps" which put the public at risk. These should NOT be allowed in ANY city.

  • @ClintonT.Biddle
    @ClintonT.Biddle Před 5 měsíci +3

    The Federal Govt. should be purchasing hotels, 1 in each queen city and the Provincial Govt. should be staffing it. People having to live alone in a shed isn’t a very good solution. At least in a hotel you could have a room on each floor with a doctor, nurses and trained professionals. Whats happening now is a bad joke and the homeless and tax payers are the punchline.

  • @ML-rk2cx
    @ML-rk2cx Před 5 měsíci +3

    1:49 "There's a strict no-violence policy"
    Yes, there's a no-violence policy outside the encampment too. It's called the law.

    • @bramstayer
      @bramstayer Před 5 měsíci +2

      I bet they will eventually have a strict no murder policy too, after the firsg murder.😂

  • @sevenhighclub2339
    @sevenhighclub2339 Před 5 měsíci +4

    The gullibility of most y’all with your comments is staggering. Wake up. Money is being proffered from these programs for homeless. Do the math literary

  • @deceball666
    @deceball666 Před 5 měsíci +2

    No overnight visitors WTF?!!!

  • @conradcoolerfiend
    @conradcoolerfiend Před 5 měsíci +6

    cool, but addressing the symptom instead of the cause. make housing and rent cheaper and there will be less homeless people.

  • @PatHand-og9yd
    @PatHand-og9yd Před 5 měsíci +1

    Peterborough, smart move!!! These little transitional homes are 1000X better than encampments or park camping… As for paying, they are on welfare. A portion of welfare is intended for rent. This transitional housing is a better idea than anything else I’ve heard of in Canada.

    • @electrodacus
      @electrodacus Před 5 měsíci

      Have you looked at the numbers ? $3333/month per cabin on top of the initial cost to build them.

  • @iminyourcity4001
    @iminyourcity4001 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Yet people in jail in prison get to live for free… life is a joke🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @GerberFlerber
    @GerberFlerber Před 5 měsíci +1

    They gonna have us living in these in 5 years saying “this is the new affordable housing we’ve made for the youth and no you can’t own a car”

  • @nickthaskater
    @nickthaskater Před 5 měsíci +1

    That rent is hilariously ridiculous for a literal shed.

  • @deadheat
    @deadheat Před 5 měsíci +23

    Is there any way to donate to this program?

    • @steveraeburn5459
      @steveraeburn5459 Před 5 měsíci +6

      @deadheat LOL They are culling us You forget history >

    • @annetoronto5474
      @annetoronto5474 Před 5 měsíci +12

      You already are paying for this with taxes!

    • @Damieno2
      @Damieno2 Před 5 měsíci +2

      The program has been funded by the government, but Elizabeth Fry runs it and does good advocacy work in Peterborough if you’re interested in donating to them. One City Peterborough does good stuff too.

    • @sevenhighclub2339
      @sevenhighclub2339 Před 5 měsíci

      Why?

    • @sevenhighclub2339
      @sevenhighclub2339 Před 5 měsíci

      @@Damieno2liar

  • @GerberFlerber
    @GerberFlerber Před 5 měsíci +1

    560 a month for a shed. Can we just remove everyone in government and restart this is a nightmare 🙄🙄🙄

  • @corystarkiller
    @corystarkiller Před 5 měsíci +3

    Crackshacks aren't the solution. Now the junkies are "out of sight, out of mind".

  • @jamescarrigan4014
    @jamescarrigan4014 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I think the liberal minister for housing should spend 2 weeks living in one of those little homes.It would give him a good insight and what's just going on.

  • @MeMe-zq7qd
    @MeMe-zq7qd Před 5 měsíci +1

    Given that Ontario works only gives people 733$ a month for a singular person, 500$ is way too much to be charging people.

  • @Aaron_Syme
    @Aaron_Syme Před 5 měsíci +1

    that math aint mathin. I work in an actual low income building in BC and tenants here pay $375. Its a studio apartment with a bathroom that has a shower. Laundry is done in a common area laundry room. They used old C-Cans to frame the rooms. Not only is this quick & cheap. It would take way longer for any fire damage to spread.

  • @jfrances2143
    @jfrances2143 Před 5 měsíci +2

    This is not the success story this people think it is. If it was free then maybe, but in this case, it is a very poor policy to "help" people in transition.

  • @thistime1483
    @thistime1483 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I pay a little over what she pays for an actual apartment in small town Alberta. This is insane.

  • @tyson145
    @tyson145 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Lies and lies upon jokes and jokes.
    Unreal.

  • @AouniX
    @AouniX Před 5 měsíci +2

    What a dystopian way to live...

  • @Planner38
    @Planner38 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Welcome to the homeless industrial complex. The tiny "homes" are the most expensive garden sheds in Canada. The costs associated with providing housing and services to the residents are mind blowing. Of course, the agencies receiving funding are not concerned about costs and the outcomes of the individuals. The agencies receiving funding are concerned about ensuring their existence and the continue employment of their employees. The agencies are not interested in eliminating homeless because this would put them out of business.

  • @roberttucker4196
    @roberttucker4196 Před 5 měsíci +1

    When did outhouses become legal again? Turdeau spends 10 million on a garage/shed and this is the best he can do for the homeless who he put into this situation. Do they have an elevator?

  • @joanneogley4874
    @joanneogley4874 Před 5 měsíci

    The pallet homes have been set up in Lower Sackville Nova Scotia just outside of Halifax. The tent encampment in the community and Halifax were dismantled and some people went to shelters and some were chosen to go into the pallet homes. This just come about last week, residents in the area are not happy they set this up without their approval, it’s in a former church parking lot and is monitored 24-7 also fenced in. I’m hopeful it works out for everyone.

  • @davidjohnmiller4849
    @davidjohnmiller4849 Před 5 měsíci +4

    There’s similar ones in Kitchener

  • @marilynbrounstein4820
    @marilynbrounstein4820 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Way too much “rent” for what they’re getting. A small,prison-like room. Even a prison room has a toilet, and water. Yes, not surprised the mayor likes this. It’s a good money-maker. It’s great getting people off the streets, no question, but, at least give them a toilet and shower, microwave or counter-top element you can plug, in so they can make a meal. and, less metal grating on the windows? You need to show some trust in these people.

  • @nicholeayt509
    @nicholeayt509 Před 5 měsíci +1

    It's a good idea but seems expensive. Also can we really call it a community without a plant or greenspace in sight. No benches, patios etc.... Not a very welcoming community... Someone with a greenhouse should offer to sponsor some plants and a community garden or something

  • @DavidGS66
    @DavidGS66 Před 5 měsíci +7

    A crock pot can do most cooking, especially on the street.

    • @jamesbowman639
      @jamesbowman639 Před 5 měsíci

      They have a kitchen.

    • @DavidGS66
      @DavidGS66 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@jamesbowman6391:27 "No cooking facilities inside unit", so maybe there's a communal kitchen?

  • @Hyper_Bullies
    @Hyper_Bullies Před 5 měsíci +1

    This is what up 30% of Canadian housing will look like after the social credit score system is established.

  • @oO0catty0Oo
    @oO0catty0Oo Před 5 měsíci +1

    I'm sorry 500 a MONTH? JESUS, that's too much for those.

  • @christinamann3640
    @christinamann3640 Před 5 měsíci +1

    The need is so overwhelming, every little bit that can be made available is imperative. There needs to be things like this as housing first, to get people secure enough to treat addiction and homelessness transitioning (also wondering if there’s onsite bath and kitchen?) There needs to also be units for very low wages and pensioners and disabled where rents are outrageous. Every city desperately needs several neighborhoods to be at least partly set aside for low income housing.

  • @marknagle-vi7og
    @marknagle-vi7og Před 5 měsíci +1

    It’s not that I’m not a compassionate person but I don’t agree with this living in a box thing. Slightly better than a tent yes but a slippery slope to say the least. Another half baked idea from an incompetent government. They have no business getting involved in such a delusional attempt at housing . I don’t know what the answer is but I’m sorry this isn’t it.

  • @flowerwhisperer9409
    @flowerwhisperer9409 Před 5 měsíci +2

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤ wonderful , thanks for The Mayor and all the support from so many fabulous people
    And the clients themselves for helping themselves climb out of there struggles and achieve their goals and aspirations.

  • @dirtyjobs3995
    @dirtyjobs3995 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Canada’s new middle class

  • @BlowUpDaChr0n
    @BlowUpDaChr0n Před 5 měsíci +1

    Well this is our Canada you used to be able to pay $550 for mortgage and now you pay $550 and you get a little small shed that you can buy at your local hardware store for five grand.

  • @paulk9056
    @paulk9056 Před 5 měsíci +1

    A "Trudeau Town". Got to love where the Liberal Party and its policies has taken the country.

  • @johnransom1146
    @johnransom1146 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Right at the end they show the big empty space behind the reporter. How about tiny houses there?

  • @DejanOfRadic
    @DejanOfRadic Před měsícem

    I'm guessing that middle management, consultants, and government contracts explains $2 million a year for heated sheds without bathrooms or kitchens. What an absolute insult to the idea of a Canadian.

  • @craigireland4596
    @craigireland4596 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Do think this is an idea worth exploring. Agree with other comments that the price seems excessive in both cost to build and rent charged. Also curious why they can skirt the Landlord tenant act. Why can't landlords have similar restrictions when they rent to such individuals? I can be long and arduous to evict a violent/problematic tenant. I have experienced it as a landlord. My other tenants were threatening to leave, but I had to follow the law. I got lucky and he ended up not dragging it out in the tribunals. Still owes back rent.

  • @Arkhanno
    @Arkhanno Před 5 měsíci +1

    2m per year is A LOT less than it would cost if these people were on the streets. If they were on the streets there's policing costs, hospital costs, security costs if they try to find shelter in areas they shouldn't be, theft costs, etc. Lowering the crime rate, increasing outreach so these people can get off drugs, kicking out violent offenders. Hopefully Mr. Ford doesn't put an end to another good project and give the money to his crony developer friends instead.

    • @NirtieDigger
      @NirtieDigger Před 5 měsíci +2

      U must be very young to have this mentality. I'm assuming about 13-14?

    • @jamesbowman639
      @jamesbowman639 Před 5 měsíci

      @@NirtieDiggerIt's just reality.

    • @electrodacus
      @electrodacus Před 5 měsíci

      That is for 50 cabins so $3333/month per cabin. Is that reasonable ?

  • @dustinwrightson7447
    @dustinwrightson7447 Před 5 měsíci +2

    This messed up thats not cool it's missing a few things to be able even have it called liveable

  • @Justanobody8472
    @Justanobody8472 Před 5 měsíci +2

    They ruined it by making it a drug den

  • @chrisccc22
    @chrisccc22 Před 5 měsíci

    I drive a winter warming bus for a semi-large city. We need this implemented for next winter. The human cost of homelessness is staggering. Many stereotypically associate drug addiction with the crisis, and I can tell you that they would be dead wrong. I see the numbers first hand from a personal level.
    Let's discuss the real issue, Affordable housing for people that make minimum wage. In the city I live in, there seams to be one company that owns over 80% of the rental housing. Compiled with the abolishment of rent control, (we all said it would be a disaster), we seem to have normalized homelessness in a seasonal climate.
    This is not California, Florida, or Arizona. A tent is only functionable 6 months of the year.

  • @jaygar9368
    @jaygar9368 Před 5 měsíci

    If government can't provide appropriate and enough house then why are still dumping unlimited people in the country?

  • @getoutsideseniors7480
    @getoutsideseniors7480 Před 5 měsíci

    okay , so no affordable housing still , seriously doesn't the city spend more every time an encampment is removed

  • @ghost_stars2307
    @ghost_stars2307 Před 5 měsíci +1

    It's better than nothing, but holy crap they could had raised the bar a little more.

  • @michaelpjeffries1521
    @michaelpjeffries1521 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Hamilton prefers parking lots over people living in tents.

  • @joanie7107
    @joanie7107 Před 5 měsíci +1

    And here we are Canada’s official shanty slums … what the hell is going on 😵‍💫

  • @bluecollaroutlaws6281
    @bluecollaroutlaws6281 Před 5 měsíci

    The worst thing about these setups is the one door and not one window to jump out...more worried about someone getting in. Why not have a roof emergency exit and not one setup for someone who's handicap. What a waste of money.

  • @jvssocialmedia2459
    @jvssocialmedia2459 Před 5 měsíci

    So unfair to the seniors, disabled, traumatized, suddenly evicted (renovictions, crazy rent hikes, illegal landlord behaviour, illness...) Canadians who CANNOT deal with the increased dangers of addict behaviour/instability, to NOT get brand new, stand alone unit housing free from those dangers.
    Crazy to give clean, new, separate entrance, stand alone, prime units to those whose behaviour poses a societal problem before ensuring responsible people fallen on hard times do not first have housing first.
    Feel sorry for people in the neighbourhood if they allow drug use.

  • @Lina.Initiate
    @Lina.Initiate Před 5 měsíci

    It’s a great start. Reduces stress on the healthcare system, decrease use of police, and hopefully increase quality of life

  • @electrodacus
    @electrodacus Před 5 měsíci

    $40000 per year per person to provide a small cabin ? That is $3333/month to rent that cabin ? It makes no sense.

  • @seankingwell3692
    @seankingwell3692 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Now this is an open air prison, cell blocks right next to each other no bathroom no kitchen no garden and surrounded by simps who are the source of homeless people suburbia.

    • @jamesbowman639
      @jamesbowman639 Před 5 měsíci

      Uhhh nope. Usually you arn't free to leave a prison.

  • @malaudisa
    @malaudisa Před 5 měsíci +7

    Finally some creative thinking beyond the rivers of words by politicians.

  • @MihaDuV
    @MihaDuV Před 5 měsíci +1

    Atleast actual prison cells have toilets.

  • @debbiebarrett9664
    @debbiebarrett9664 Před 5 měsíci +4

    And this is Trudeau's/NDP Party's Canada?! Use to get an apartment, now you get a shipment container! 😢

    • @Fenthule
      @Fenthule Před 5 měsíci

      stop blaming politics for global corproate greed and capitalism's fault. This kind of crap is happening everywhere. You're being manipulated by grifters into believing it's the government's fault when PP and the cons would just continue doing the same damn thing, giving tax breaks to the rich and continuing to screw over the rest of us. It's CLASSIC and you're being manipulated by ragebait. The problem is greed and a failing capitalist society - you can't have infinite growth with finite resources in a world of ever increasing wealth inequality. It will collapse 100%.

  • @miriley6
    @miriley6 Před 5 měsíci

    I paid 700 a month for a 2 bedroom basement with kitchen bathroom living room...wasnt anything fancy but downtown toronto was a 5 minute streetcar ride away...I would NEVER pay nearly 600 bucks for a shed. No bathrooms or kitchens?! wtf?!?! Im from Peterborough and I know I could definitely find a one bedroom or studio with all amenities included for 500 a month, heck, even a bedroom with shared kitchen bathroom is better than whatever scam theyre promoting here. I thought they were going to say it was free....WOW! Talk about taking advantage of people at their lowest.

  • @karinturkington2455
    @karinturkington2455 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Tiny prisons row by row. What's next?