What True Depression Feels Like, as Shown in "South Park"
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- čas přidán 8. 02. 2021
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South Park: You're getting Older
A deep look at Stan's depression, and what he did to cure it.
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Verse of the Day (as related to the topic of this video):
"For our present troubles are small and won’t last very long. Yet they produce for us a glory that vastly outweighs them and will last forever! So we don’t look at the troubles we can see now; rather, we fix our gaze on things that cannot be seen. For the things we see now will soon be gone, but the things we cannot see will last forever." - 2 Corinthians 4:17-18 (NLT)
A movie I highly recommend: The Gospel According to Matthew (starring a very animated and engaging acting performance by Bruce Marchiano, who plays Jesus). This is a word-for-word adaptation that has a unique take on the body language and charisma of Jesus, and also makes it easier to understand and quicker to read the story. I am hopeful that this movie gives you peace, love, hope, security, comfort, and answers, as it did me, and continues to do to this day. God bless you.
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Quick point: My videos are NOT substitutes for medical advice. Like I said, what may be major depression to one person is normal sadness to another. If your depression is more serious than the average concept of it, seek professional help.
It’s impossible for me to help everyone, I know that, and so should you.
I get it man
I get it but sometimes it’s good to hear some advice from other ppl
Change the title then, this has nothing to do with real depression, imagine if someone made a video talking about covid and compared it to a simple headache that goes away after drinking some water. That’s what you’re doing talking about “real” depression and comparing it to simple sadness and saying it will go away eventually because it’s temporary.
I enjoy your content man, it makes me feel better and i enjoy learning about mental illness or disabilities in shows
Can I get the piano song in 2:45?
South Park portrayed depression better than 13 Reasons Why
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK
Say it louder for the people who didn't make it out
13 reasons why portrayed depression?
South Park can probably portray anything better than 13 Reasons Why. XD
YES SOUTH PARK! WE LOVE SOUTH PARK! YESSSSSS
Kid: Has depression
Parents:That’s kinda cringe
Schools: *T h a t ‘ s r e a l*
*c r i n g e b r o n g l*
@@sillowillo :(
It is cringe, I have the damn thing but when I hear most other peoples' accounts I just wanna facepalm. Idk why I have a whole lot of empathy and sympathy for other issues but when I here stories of self harm, see art of people with eyes crossed out, or shit like '13 reasons why' I cringe like Im watching my highschool principle trying to use Vine to relate to the young folk
@@notthis9586 i can relate. I have depression and it straight up makes me an annoyingly gloomy person. I empathize with other depressed people and most of my friends have the same struggle, but if we overindulge in our sadness it can quickly turn into a pity party. But the people who don't have depression just give me toxic positivity crap that doesn't help either :/
sToP bEiNg SaD
you missed a crucial part of the episode. on the last minute before it ends. Stan is still depressed. From that episode forward, him drinking secretly says that he is still depressed. he chose to accept that he is depressed and live by it. it is a sad reality but many people are like this. They are genuinely depressed and those moments of " happiness " are just an episode of their real situations.
its depressed not depress (not a hate comment )
@@Ers1ie3 thanks for the correction
This is actually kind of shown in much later episodes, too. Like with the covid episodes, Stan was the most upset about everything, trying to hang onto some normalicy.
isnt that the default?
like happiness is something small and sparse so enjoy while it lasts?
because you CANT cure depression but you can treat it and make it tolerable.
Depression isn’t being sad, depression is being empty when you shouldn’t be
It can be both. Empty when you shouldn't be... but still sad a lot of the time too. Sometimes, even sad when you should probably be happy.
Maybe that's why it relates to eating disorders
This video is a horrible mischaracterization of depression... as most depictions are.
@@XrayTheMyth23 Sooo enlighten everyone else whom may misunderstand? If you can describe it better, especially given the fact that it is such a sensitive topic for most people. You should probably spread what knowledge you have of it. A lot of this video makes sense as well as a lot of the comments surrounding the video. (I am not a keyboard doctor nor am I someone that DOESN'T suffer from depression. I very much do.) so with that in mind, I don't want anyone to sit there and think I am some troll on the internet poking at the bear waiting for a response.
@@kananataruske281 in my opinion, he characterized depression as having a “cure” which just doesn’t sit right with me. When uve had it for years and years and years the last thing u typically wanna hear is “why don’t u just fix it, ur making everyone else sad” bc that just isolates u further
Is this the episode where everything looks like shit?
And yes, that’s how it feels like. I don’t even want to watch my favorite anime or play my favorite games nowadays.
Yes, Ita a double episode. You’re growing up and Assburgers in season 15
@@duwang2324 sometimes I don’t either
@@duwang2324 The only way to love anime again is by watching a new anime and playing a new game
@@sparesomecoochieplease3531 If you could actually read you would notice that 2 people mentioned anime too bad your so illiterate that you couldn't even read a simple word like anime
Depression can be a lifelong thing and doesn’t “go away” for everyone. There are good days and bad.
its liek meh adhd. some days its better some days its complete shit and i forget thing after liek 5 secs
ADHD is nothing compared to depression my friend I have both and adhd is not bad it’s okay if u take medicine
@@erenjaeger9263 the thing about ADD and ADHD is that they are not the same for everyone, and often they make depression a lot worse. I would advise not telling people what is and isn't hard for them. What isn't so bad for you could be back breaking for someone else, especially if their body reacts negatively to the adderall or other prescription medication. And like the creator of the video said, there are different levels to depression. To say that depression is worse when there are extremely minor cases of depression and extremely severe cases of ADHD is a very childish and naive mindset.
Thanks, Mr. Saad.
Depression is a sane reaction to an insane world
“ how do you go on when nothing makes you happy?” A question I ask myself every day.
No material thing or person can give you everlasting happiness. You must find it within yourself. It's a spiritual process and can take years but it's something you have to work on.
I ask it too
I just go the Marcus Aurelius route and say, "Because I can." Though, there are days where thats not enough.
Because happiness is not the goal. It's a ghost you occasionally get glimpses of it buy never fully see it.
Go for fulfillment instead.
do something that you yourself can be proud of.
happiness is a side effect
@@halcyonramirez6469You could say happiness can be as fleeting as life itself.
"Being sad 24/7" is a major understatement for depression, it's more than that, you don't feel sad, you feel nothing, null, numb, emptiness, you don't even process emotions anymore, and can't even find the motivation to even do anything at all
The numbness part, yeah the meds will do that to you
remember, pain is temporary, swag is forever.
Sadness is temporary, but doom is eternal
Who's in Paris again?
Tiggers. Tiggers in Paris.
Thank you
*Jarl Ballin wants to know your location*
Imagine being South Park and explaining depression better than some "serious" shows.
Me:Bojack Horseman let me introduce myself 🐴.
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Btw I like both shows.
@@adryannthedefender701 Some =/= all Adryann.
But for real tho imagine being worse at explaning depression than fucking South Park
Southpark explains everything better than a lot of serious shows
@@husk3715
yes, putting aside it’s ocassional crude joke, it’s a very great show. I’m glad it aged like Win instead of Milk like Simpsons & Family Guy.
@@cornedbread3669 huge facts man
i think the best part about this episode is how they showed what it really is like. he isn’t sad or crying, just completely silent but irritable. the fact that he wanted to try do everything he used to do with his best friends because he wanted to regain how he used to feel while doing those things, but his feelings got in the way and it drew away his friends further and further and he hated to see it. the only thing causing him to cry was him explained his feelings to mackey. not seeing his parents argue, not seeing his friends leave, nothing. just him even trying to explain was his breaking point. the best part was when he never truly overcame his addiction and still needs it to keep going. his friends came back and parents got back together but he still just felt numb and accepted it and still used alcohol as a cope.
The only time I think he does cry is in the next episode Ass Burgers where he cries in Mr. Mackey‘s office
I have a friend like this who has cPTSD, BPD, AUD, and *MDD* .
She's been battling episodes of various bouts of existential dread, each round getting worse. She began as a closeted drinker around a few yrs ago. She finally became sober but isn't the same, esp physically. She's now in an existential crisis, and sees no point in remaining sober and even to live. Why/how?
There are a few various forms of an existential crisis. The one she battles has her seeing no pt or value life as we all eventually die, that we're all here to suffer more than experience love and joy, believing her parents greatest mistake was having her, and doesn't want to live nor even tries to attempt her life.
Though she's very emotional and cries a lot, she's an empty shell otherwise. It's very disturbing to witness, nvm going through, which is certainly worse, I'm certain.
@@inoshishi8ditch her she will just make you start feeling depressed too.
@@inactivechannel3004 Absolutely futile! I've known her near all my life if not entirely all of it. I see what the system has done to many, including her. This is only 1 detail about her.
You shouldn't be giving advice if it means to just drop someone out of another's life. Imagine if you're a dog or cat with mental and physical disabilities that had certain behaviors difficult to control, so your owner/master dumps you off an unknown street or even in the garbage. Imagine if you're a helpless baby born with serious illnesses or syndromes, including mental, but your parents find you a nuisance and leave you in the midst of nowhere or put you in orphanage that has a bad rep but they don't care as long as you're out of the way.
I'M THE PARENT MODEL RN, and she was for another at one pt in her life to. Think very clearly before responding to something this serious next time, please.
As someone who loves South Park and has depression I feel how Stan felt in the two episodes, it’s so blank and dark. One of my favorite episodes and I’m glad they took it on
Cool
which episode is it?
Didnt know a show like this,could protray depression so accurate.
Same....
Stan's depression goes even further and it really hits home man
facts
@@geckuchicken8355 facts
@@geckuchicken8355 ....
Depression is also a mental illness and doesn’t just “go away” for a lot of people
Exactly, however not many 'not depressed' people seem to understand this. This is a fact that makes depression even more hopeless
yeah but i have a hard time calling it a illness because let's say a military guy lost all his family and saw all his friend die in war is it same as someone who hear voices in her head and have what we call a mental illness and it's due to her genetics while the military guy it's more a traumatic thing that happen that is a cause of it and not a genetic thing so i feel like it's a illness but not in the same bracket
@@nabilelmaniaa6581 aaaaahh ahhhhhh, sorry but thus was painful to read. depression can be a genetic illness, and in that same sense people can disassociate from life and find themselves hallucinating and with delusions when there's nothing to their genetic material that indicates they "should." just like depression things like psychosis can to an extent be a RESULT of traumatic experiences, and effect the rest of someone's life. because for some people they really need something to correct that chemical imbalance, and getting medicated then going off medication can leave them in the same place. depression can be genetic, and it can be a traumatic response, and so can, from my knowledge, psychotic disorders.
war veterans can start hearing voices and having vivid delusions after coming home.
@@jahcarter04 nope it is. Genes can make it more likely for you to get or not get depression
@@mr.knight5604 actually I asked my therapist about that. I have depression and an anxiety disorder. Same illnesses run through my fathers side of the family. She said anxiety could be genetic but depression is most likely not. Experts are apperently still unsure why you see depression in multiple family members, but the most likely answer is, that it is unintentionally taught.
I have had to deal with a friend who suffers a lot from depression and it's definitely worth it to not give up on them. I remember at some points even being around them was like a black hole sucking the life out of you but it's worth it to stick with it.
absolutely.
The world needs more friends like y’all. I’m so grateful for my best friend she has stuck with me since elementary. I will forever be thankful to have her in my life because she motivates me everyday to keep fighting. The only one who has been with me through the good, the bad and the ugly. While others have slowly drifted away.
You are an amazing friend 👏🥹 I really admire the strength you have to be able to stick with them and stay at their side even when they're going through their darkest times, it's really inspiring to me. I pray that your friend gets better, God bless you 🙏💕
I have a friend like you and I thank you for doing this, it means a lot to feel like there is still one person who cares
To be honest sometimes it's not worth it, but your dedication is heartwarming.
A lot of the time, depression doesn’t involve sadness at all, sometimes it is repressed anger.
They call anger a secondary emotion
Damn that's a new view.
and anger involves sadness
I have a repressed rage which is bigger than just anger.
@@victuzboxing classes?
its like how butters said that when he’s sad it hurts but it makes him feel human, because if he could feel sadness it means he knows how happiness feels, so its a beautiful sadness
People with depression don't feel sadness. Its an entirely different emotion. Can you imagine what life would be like if you couldnt feel sad or joyful? Just pain. Normal people get sad.
brother.
@@blooflazh7 bobby shmurdaaaa
Except that depression isn't sadness. It's like a black hole that sucks the very life force out of you. It's pure hopelessness and apathy. At some point you want to feel sad because it would be easier to explain to people and you could feel better again after crying a lot for a while. But you can't even feel sad anymore and that makes the whole ordeal even worse because how can anyone ever help you if you aren't even capable of feeling emotions any longer? All you feel is just pain, you want to scream but the rest of your mind and body is too numb already.
These two episodes are better than the entire 13 reasons to why
Depression is not just “I want to die” it’s more like “I wish I had not born in the first place.”
For me it is: "I wish to live" "I wish I wouldn't want to cease"
"I don't wanna die.... I sometimes wish Ide never been born AT AAAAAAAALLLL" -Mr. Mercury
Feel that
No it isn’t, it’s,”Why did I have to be born like this?”
yeah like I don't wanna kill myself, but damn existing kinda sucks right now.
Depression and sadness are not the same thing. And trust me, depressive episodes are temporary, depression itself is not. I’ve fallen into that trap and let my guard down before just for it to hit me even harder out of nowhere.
I've always found depression such a hard concept to draw a line with. It's why I've never had myself diagnosed professionally. My experience would probably be considered simple sadness to some, but to me, it's worse. The differentiator in my life has been how consistent and unprovoked the feeling is. My life is okay, and it's never a reason that provokes me to feel down, but once I do, the little things spiral me down a rabbit hole that makes me think life is no longer worth it. Reality is, that's not true. There are positives to my life, but I don't ever value them to any extent, and that's something to this day I don't understand. Same with feelings of empathy. I feel remorse, sadness, and so on, but when it comes to expressing them, I just feel empty, like my experience has warped my understanding of negative emotions. I'm self aware to the issues to others I cause having such a negative outlook on life from my experience, and I catch myself making others feel down more and more often, but without knowing what others are thinking towards each comment I make, it's not something I can ever prevent because there'll always be a level of negativity in my mindset even on a subconscious level. I know the issue, and I understand a lot about how I feel, but there's a part of me that constantly degrades myself or thinks something is wrong in life and as a result, I can't put it down to a simple sadness. I'm just not at rock bottom either, so where is that line...
Despite all that, I do, to some extent, have optimism. I believe in myself that I will be able to deal with how i feel. I know deep down life isn't that bad, and I have a huge amount to be grateful for, negativity is just hard to overshadow when it's as easy to find something negative about.
Are you me? Almost everything you've written matches my experience with this.
First off, I didn't get myself diagnosed either. I do not have any major traumas in my life. Both my parents are alive and I have an extended family who live close to me and love me a lot. I don't have a gf or a wife, but I was never subject of any heart-breaking breakups, so no traumas from that side either. I was never addicted to any drugs either. My family is financially doing okay in this economy. I am a reasonably good student and am trying my best to get a good job.
Then why am I losing my feelings over time? I don't cry when someone close dies. Didn't feel happy when I passed college. Not excited at all about getting a job. Not looking forward to a good, fulfilling life. Sometimes I feel like a machine.
Yet somehow, I'm optimistic about life in weird ways? I do not know how explain my situation. I know how lucky I am for my life and I am grateful for that. But just like you, one small negative incident is enough to smash through my workout routine, muscles that took months to build forgotten about in an instant.
Indeed, I haven't reached rock bottom either, but where do I draw the line?
I’m really happy in a way to hear that I’m not the only one feeling this way. It’s so hard to put my emotions into words and explain to people. Even if I tried to explain nobody can understand where I’m coming from, so what I’m trying to say here is thank you for opening up. I feel like I’ve been heard.
Please try praying to God. Say the lord’s prayer everyday.
Thanks man I just love you for stating your experience, I can definetly relate to that. I dont know the answer neither but just know that you're not alone with that. ✊
Well said stranger, well said.
I wish people knew the difference between feeling depressed and having depression
You sound like a music snob, but for feelings.
@@seanbeard7558
What do you mean by that?? One is an emotion or temporary state of mind and the other is a really serious mental illness that may need a lot of treatment.
@@aubymori1333 I wish people knew the difference between not making sense and being a bit confusing
@@aubymori1333 that reply makes no sense
@@aubymori1333
What doesnt make sense? I can try to explain for you.
People who are depressed aren't pretending to be sad, they are pretending to be happy
or not pretending to be anything
And pretending to be happy makes it worse, because you know it's fake.
facts
@@Monophoric It's also really exhausting, especially when you drop the facade and everyone suddenly asks what is wrong because you're not faking it anymore.
@@callumarcher8111 it's worse when you try to explain but they don't believe you
During my mid twenties I went thru a particularly bad episode of depression. I remember waking up everyday telling myself today is gonna be a good day... Only to go back to bed at the end of the day feeling like it had been a crap day. The best way i could describe it is like walking in very dense fog, having no idea where you came from nor where you are going.
Eventually got out of it after making some significant changes to my life and talking about how I felt to some great friends.
What were the changes you had to make? I fear I may be going through the same as well
@@keethkeith1989 basically I managed to buy a forested labd and leave my parents home witch sent me on a new path with a lot to look forward. If that hadn't work I would probably have sold everything I had and left for another country.
Hang on in there and good luck finding your way.
I too have been through that resorting to becoming stoic, sound frequency healing, and a holistic lifestyle.
I have a friend so severely off that when she wakes up, she'll cry bc she knows she's alive. It's extremely disturbing to witness, more disturbing to bear, I bet. When she goes to bed at night, she's frightened of waking up or having persistent nightmares that she's been battling half her life. Her health has also become poor, and she developed alcoholism a few yrs ago, the most severe kind: chronic binge drinking.
She's been sober only a few x but wound up relapsing, each x worse except for the last one at the end of Dec. Still sober, she doesn't see the pt, she's getting worse physically, and she just doesn't care as long as she's "edged up".
Knowing her so well that I can tell when she's about to relapse, she's been on a VERY thin thread lately, have nearly relapsed 3-4 x this wk, but I had to help stop it.
Unfortunately, with only so much in my power, she's still getting closer, having things ready in her mind with detailed plans on how to obtain alc "just in case".
This is only ONE individual of MANY that's experiencing what's called: existential dread, and I mean HEAVILY...
@@ExperimentalSimplification What exactly is a forested labd? Do you mean land?? Sounds rather exquisite! I hope you continue your healing and strength. 🌸
Pardon the typo, not "edged up", EFFED up. It's how she and many other addicts/alcoholics coin such terms.
7:30 The way I smiled
I felt this sentence through the bottom of my heart, because it's the same thing I saif to myself when I realized I won against depression.
You may not see it immediately because it's progressive, but when you start to enjoy things again, man it feels so damn good
For all people suffering of depression, never give up ! You're an amazing person, and one day you'll be able to be happy again. Depression will change your way to see life for the better. Things who don't kill you make you stronger
How'd u do it ?
Things that don't kill you make you stronger but they can cripple you permanently. Remember that :')
@@manavnayyar true af :'''D
Depression is more than being sad 24/7, there comes a point where you wish you were sad, because you feel *NOTHING*
I miss the comfort in being sad - Kurt Cobain
Feeling nothing comes after accepting the sadness. It becomes numb, then the acceptance causes you to be indifferent and in time, depressed.
@@squishy_7 cool bro lol
@@early20rager63 TW: SELF HARM, DEPRESSION
Damn. I've been trying to figure out how that worked for me in th epast. I think I had depression for 2 years because for a year i self harmed and felt sad 24/7 and then for nother year didn't feel any emotions. I'm now dealing with depression again but a different kind of depression. The one where I can't motivate myself to get out of bed. you saying that accepting the sadness is what causes emptiness was very eye-opening. Thanks mate.
Igsactly
I'm a 22 year old man and I'll admit when he said "When all the things that made you happy made you sick, how do you go when nothing makes you happy" I cried a little😢
Bangin’ profile pic.
@@tomralfe5428 why did i interpret this as you claiming that you will bang his profile picture
@@RAATlol because I meant you to.
me too i never get teary eyed watching youtube
Same here. I'm gonna be 24 in a few months.
It’s been 8 years. The period of sadness ain’t going anywhere. You just gotta numb out and deal with it. It doesn’t always just let up, no matter how your life changes you’re still you.
But I'm not still me. My personality has changed. My behaviour has changed.
Imagine being depressed for so long it eventually becomes normal and once it becomes so normal you figure out ways to be happy even if you have few friends.
This is the reason why i don’t like people who fake depression. It’s like they want it to be cool. But after all depression really really sucks.
It sucks hard
I don’t like people who accuse people with depression of faking it
It’s not a trend either
@@Slay-eo4fj well I wouldn’t go out saying to someone’s face or insuating that someone is faking there depression. You don’t know that
I used to have a friend who faked depression
Depression has to be one of the most complex, complicated, long term things humanity has ever faced. Having depression is like wading in a river upstream while people walk on either side of the river nearby. They yell to you "hey bro, its easy, just come on up here!" and you try but the current is too strong and you're unable to do anything but continue upstream as the people on the banks leave you behind, thinking you want to stay in the current.
Really good example
This is the best goddamn way to explain it I swear this should become the Universal example to represent to people so they could understand better. Not to generalize it, but to start conversation and proper education without confusion
Fuck please don't delete this
Wow, that's a perfect description.
Nah it’s more like you see people yelling at you but you can’t hear any of the words and your frozen just talking to yourself in your mind all day everyday.
I watched this a few hours before a loved one passed away. I'm trying to take what was said here to heart. It hurts a lot, but that loved one would probably want me to be better instead of wallowing too long in grief. I am allowing myself to grieve and I hope that after that I can change and get better.
so sorry for your loss. ❤
Thank you for this video. As a long time South Park fan, this really hit home for me. Depression is rough and too often I turn to drinking, but always feel worse afterwards. Sometimes you just need to think through it and find whatever hope you can latch on to in order to move on and wake up in the morning. South Park has been one of the things that has brought a smile to my face even when things are looking their worse.
I think that it was very smart of the writers to use Stan as the one who gets depressed. He's the most "normal" character in South Park. If they did it with Cartman, for example, it would pass off as a joke. Cartman is generally toxic and manipulates people himself so it wouldn't work.
Cartman would just become 'toxic positive'. ha that sounds like an actual episode title now.
I’m a huge South Park fan and I’ve equated it to this
Stan is the agnostic
Cartman is the christian or catholic
Kyle is the Jew
Kenny is the atheist
@@shuneughu4244 what does that have to do with the topic at hand
@@bruhstandler my balls
@@shuneughu4244 Young Cartman feels more like the athiest to me. Old Cartman though, in the Post Covid movie? You aren't far off exactly!
I don't watch south park, but I know this episode, it's sad as hell, and explains the meaning of depression
U should watch it.
Its really good.
what ep is it?
@@theelmicco7384 check the description
@@kakashilover9231 thx
I haven't watched the episode yet but I can relate to Stan more than anyone, there was a point in my life that everything seemed crap, even the things I used to love, at a point my attitude got so toxic that I lost all my friends and stopped feeling anything afterwards except sadness and anger or just emptiness. I moved schools next year and everything got better :3
I started depression when i was 11 or 12, i accepted it when my mom died at the start of covid, i just deal with it by holding in my emotions tbh, i know its not healthy but its kinda the best thing i got now since, everyone around me dosent care anymore
Depression isn’t just sadness.
It’s the feeling that nothing makes you happy anymore. You have no more emotion, nothing makes sense to you anymore.
I wouldn't say that but depression is not just one type theres a spectrum
@@coffintears5821 yeah.
no motivation or effort to do anything is a major symptom of it
@@coffintears5821 not really lol, its a chemical imbalance
@@NicholasRincon Yes, but everyone reacts to that imbalance a bit differently.
Fundamentally, it is just chemicals, but those chemicals define the human experience and makes us actually human.
They are the reason we feel, think and act.
Saying “depression is temporary” isn’t helpful though, some people are genetically predisposed to life long clinical depression and need medication for the rest of their lives
There is a difference between situational depression and clinical depression
That’s true
I agree. I think it’s more just that “this period of life will pass. This problem will be temporary.”
Many of life’s most painful problems aren’t temporary though, the trauma from abuse, an accident, or the death of a loved one for example. you can learn coping skills, and ways to manage the pain, but I wouldn’t recommend just “waiting it out”
Made2express made a pinned comment about him mentioning his video isn't for those who have serious depression and other stuff and you shouldn't take in all of his words as medical advice for those who need professional help. He's aware he can't help everyone out and stuff but I suggest you read his pinned comment for better explanation. Thank you.
@@benrosenberg3489 how did you know you were depressed?
You did a great job with this video. Also I hope everyone who is currently suffering from depression right now or at any other time in their life, to overcome that depression and to keep going, for themselves. Don't ever give up for in happiness, because it does exist. You've experienced it before, and you deserve to be happy.
You missed the KEY point where Stan drinks before the start of everyday
Weird addition: they never absolve the whole stan being an alcoholic, and the fact that you can find bottles of booze as loot in Stans room in one of the games implies he's still drinking daily
Yeah I kinda figured they were sticking with it when he still took out a bottle and took a swig at the end of it all
Stan still drinking afterwards is kind of a dark truth of how people cope when nothing around them has improved.
@@thaloh and how unnoticed an addiction can go, I never new about this aspect of the episode
Poor thing has to be an alcoholic forever to not be depressed
Stan sneaking booze at the end really hit home for me. When i was going through a really depressive period in college i coped w/ my depression the same way.
"Toxic Positivity" Finally a term for it. Personally, it's just as bad for people to bury themselves in only positivity as it is for negativity.
Trying to ignore negative thoughts only give them more power over you.
Inside Out in a nutshell
There is a difference between talking, looking or acting positive vs feeling positive.
@@MindlessTube I unsuspectedly went into this cycle about a year ago, a few months ago i felt the difference truly and still can't sort my feelings out. Maybe one day)) maybe
toxic negative is much worse. just stop moaning and make something of your life.
The way you described finding peace in the change while avoiding toxic traps was so well said, it really made me more self aware, thank you so much
I totally agree with the aspect of toxic positivity, I feel like I have to fake my positivity just to make everyone in my life happy. it sucks, and even more so knowing i'm faking it for fear of ridicule.
“The worst part of having a mental illness, is that everyone expects you to behave as if you don’t.”
Not the joker quotes 💀
@@3amthoughts162 shut up man it's Just a quote
Ofc they won't want you to react like a weirdo until u have told them wut is the problem
@@karmveer240 statistically most people don't hsve mental illness so expecting them to know whats up immediately without even talking to them is wrong too. It goes both ways
@@3amthoughts162 funny but its the other way around haha most people have psychological issues
The last scene in the episode Stan takes a sly sip of whiskey to deal with his day to show he’s not quite over his depression and still micro doses to cope with daily life. I like this as it shows depression is something you cope with rather conveniently have some revelation and move on like on most TV shows.
Alchohol is bad hmmmkay.
That's always been their approach. Like when Randy is alcoholic. At the end he doesn't abstain he just cuts back. "All good or all bad" thinking is a result of mental illness as well.
@@lopiklop Could you explain what you mean when you say “”all good or all bad” thinking is a result of mental illness as well?”
@@Sam-nc6wd black and white thoughts are a thought distortion. Like catastrophizing or mind reading.
They don’t necessarily have to be born of mental illness though.
@@skraaaaz hmmmkay
Its crazy how accurate this gets it. As one going through this right now, its hard when there's no easy answer. People around you want to help, but depression is oddly contagious. This was well captured here.
I'm really glad this episode is getting the attention it deserves
School: starts
Depression:
Casually approach child.
Dude,If u have depression cause of School u Actually don't have it
@@atanaZion You have no idea what school does to certain people then.
My brother is in college and he has gone through lots of moments where he thinks he is a loser or that he is an idiot.
Or what most worry about... being a failure.
@@sussus9348 School only servs to improve social skills, I have no ideia because people Actually Care about grades
I have never study for a singke teste after 11 Yrs, and I finish School Next year
@@atanaZion I believe the " never study for a singke teste after 11 yrs" part.
@@sussus9348 Yeah
I mean, written "Singke" instead "Single"=Dumb
No doubts why u're depressed
When you were talking at the end I was reminded of a quote from Raisins, another episode where Stan spirals into depression. Butters gets rejected and tells Stan, "I’m sad. But at the same time I’m really happy that something can make me feel that sad. It’s like it makes me feel alive, you know. It makes me feel human. The only way I can feel this sad now is if I felt something really good before. So I had to take the bad with the good. So I guess what I’m feeling is, like a ‘beautiful sadness’." Depression is miserable, but I feel like (even if he was just talking about feeling sad over a girl) it's such a nice quote and has always stuck with me, because there's always hope for better times.
I swear South Park can get so real at times
Except sadness isn't comparable to depression, depressions usually stems from a long term constant serialization of despair, where sadness is only temporary and only a minor and temporary inconvience that will inevitably pass, depression is absolute despair all times of the day, never ending and always draping itself over you like a heavy water logged towel. Sadness is a reminder of what happiness will feel like when it returns, depression is when you've forgotten what happiness is because you've lack experiencing it for such an extreme time.
@@DeathSithe92
Yeah exactly the problem with depression isn't "I'm sad and I hope things get better" it's "why am I doing this" or what's the point" or even just wanting to be done with it all its not being sad its wanting to be happy
Butters is a Bodhisattva fight me
@@DeathSithe92 In my personal experience depression had more to do with the utter lack of hope than a long duration. Sure, I was suicidal for weeks and felt near constant despair for considerably longer, but I think what made it so horrible wasn't so much the duration but the inability to see, or even hope for, light at at the end of the tunnel. That feeling of hoplessness just saps your will to live entirely.
This video is really relatable and touching for me. While I think my depression went away 3 years ago, this video made me tear with joy. Thank you for reminding me that going back is boring and change is good.❤
That episode of Stan describes, all within one episode, my life for the last 26 years.
I like how South Park showed why people leave their friends in dark places we don’t talk about that enough
right. a lot of times, its a lot deeper than just "they dont wanna help their friend in their time of need"
As someone with depression, this is probably true! Though I can't relate to Stan's depression, my mom doesn't know what to do with me and sometimes walks away when she can't deal with me. My friends leave me because I ditch them. Im sure Stan's friends' reactions are probably reactions of some people to their mentally ill friend. Idunno.
@@girlsarepoggers
At the end of the day your depression is your problem. You cant expect to pawn it off on other people, or expect them to stick around while youre quite literally a giant ball of negativity. Ive been through that, and I understand why my old friends cut ties with me.
@@AlphaQHard Being friends with someone with depression is exhausting to be completely honest
@@edit6588 and being friends with someone with cancer is exhausting too; you may have to visit them in the hospital, talk to them about some hard things, or even deal with their death. Depression isn’t any different. You aren’t someone’s friend if you leave in a time of hardship, you’re just a drinking buddy or acquaintance.
That bit with Stan secretly drinking at the end of the episode so he can handle being with his friends and family is what makes it such a real episode and relatable to me. This was good but a bit more hopeful then the episode was by a long shot and misses the point that depression stuff like that may never go away and you got to figure that out.
What was the name of the episode ?
@@ishwarchandragupta4952 your getting older
And the kinda continuation aspergers
And u even got the bojack horseman pfp....
exacto mano
@@nocproductionsinc7896 it’s actually ass burgers
As someone who has had a rough life, this is true. Having people always happy and unaware of the real issues in life and not being able to understand or care about your situation is not helpful. For the same reason you said toxic positivity can be an excuse, "positivity" itself is a way for people to ignore your issues and avoid having to adapt to understand. It's sometimes better you let those people go who were always around, but refuse to understand your issues. They aren't reliable when things don't seem perfect. That is not a real friend. You realize these things when you become an adult and start your own family, how the world used to be ...
This episode hit really hard especially since I was going through an episode of me staying in my room and only getting up to eat or use the bathroom, seriously the part with mr mackey was so true because I've always been told that staying sad forever won't help, even my therapist has said something like that to a degree, but the truth is every moment of happiness I have feels like a simple distraction from my genuine feelings of sadness and emptiness. How can I become happier when every time those feelings come back. The part at the end where Stan took a sip of that alcohol was so real because to me it felt as if he still needed something to cope with those feelings, even if it wasn't the most healthy way.
The last line of the video is very reminiscent of what Butters said to Stan after being dumped:
“I'm sad, but at the same time I'm really happy that something could make me feel that sad. It's like, it makes me feel alive, you know? It makes me feel human. And the only way I could feel this sad now is if I felt somethin' really good before. So I have to take the bad with the good, so I guess what I'm feelin' is like a, beautiful sadness.”
It comes a lot from Butters since growing up with his parents must of been a nightmare for him.
He probably dealt with depression his whole life
I miss the feeling of a broken heart tbh
Apathy is death
But I've learned to deal with it myself, just hide the pain. Pretend to be fine and try to make life less miserable for others
@@commisaryarreck3974 I know that feeling, you put it in a good way too "Apathy is death." I know for so many it could be so easy to just become a bad or even just an indifferent person when you feel nothing all the time. But I'm glad you can push on and realize it's better off trying to help out others even when you feel like nothing you do matters and that next to everything is unimportant. I hope life comes back to you, keep your chin up and stay safe.
@@commisaryarreck3974 i don't really agree with the "pushing your feelings/thoughts away and pretending to be fine to not bother others" part
for me personally as much as i don't want to bother others to help me or worry them or break their mood, i still need to say something otherwise my mind gets in a really bad place if i bottle it up
well that's me personally
Except depression does not work that way. It just makes you feel sad without having felt something really good before.
When Stan just sat on the bus, it hit me so hard. I was clinically depressed for 4 years and I didn't talk to anyone, it didn't help that my social anxiety disorder made me want to kill myself everytime I was forced to speak. I felt like that but everyday, but now of course I recovered and learned some healthy coping skills. I can't believe it took 4 years for me to get out of it, so much life wasted :/
hey, at least you’ve gotten better! that’s what
truly matters.
Which season and episode is it...can u pls tell???
@@nikhilbaini9716 one is ass burgers I forget the other tho
110% my dude, I’ve been dealing with depression and social anxiety from a young age (only child, dad spent more time working than anything, so mum would be busy doing all the house work and what not, and was the kid at school the new kid’s would hang out with until they get “real” friend’s, so almost alway’s getting picked on, growing up the only escape I had (( and thankfully still have 18 years later)) is skateboarding thankfully it’s A lot less shitty day’s now, but they still pop up every now and then,
Moral of my post,
For anyone going through a rough patch in life,
Try and hold on, it might take a while but thing’s will get better.
Doesn't matter how much time it took for you to feel ok again. Those years were not wasted, you just needed exactly 4 years to recover, that's all. Don't feel ashamed, or like you are to blame for your depression. It's not true, it wasn't your fault. I'm just glad you're feeling better!
Good video, and Southpark did well with it. The only thing I would add is, depression isn’t always externally driven. Sometimes it just arrives. I know plenty of people who are the definition of positive outlook at all times to fall into depression. The cynicism angle is just a little one-dimensional.
Thank you so much for this video. It really helped me. Often i come back here to rewatch it when things get difficult.
Sometimes depression is like: "I'm not mad with life, im just mad with the way im living it"
wow!! accurate!!!
YES!!!
Yow that's awesome
“And yet I can’t do anything about it. I’m stuck. I’m lost. I’m lonely.”
And the fact that you can not improve your self, because the one that is doing the improving is the one that needs improvement.
As a wise man once said “killing your self doesn’t get rid of depression, it just passes it on”
Eh I wouldn't say that quote is very wise... that's basically saying "how others feel is more important than how you feel" depression sucks and it often leads to suicide but suicide itself is a double edged sword...no matter what side you're on you're being selfish and no matter what side wins someone will be left hurting
@@jakwolfe3025 nah, that quote outlines the selfishness of suicide. It's tragic and painful, but ultimately suicide IS selfish. Ask someone who's been on the edge and they'll tell you they weren't worried about how it would affect the people closest to them.
@@XxHistorikxX like I said if you read my comment both sides are being selfish.
@@jakwolfe3025 i didn’t say the quote was wise I said a wise man said that. Also it’s not saying it’s more important it’s saying that when you do if you do end up ending your life it will hurt lots of people which is often a motivator to not commit suicide because people don’t want others to suffer as they did, also some don’t think about how their choices would affect others. As someone who has been dealing with depression for about half of their life this quote has helped me in darker times. The quote doesn’t say “don’t do it” or “don’t be sad” it says just know what you are doing when you do it. I’m not hating or anything I truly want to help.
@@jakwolfe3025 depression will pass eventually. As all things do. You just have to keep pushing until you make it.
Depression manifests itself differently in different people. In my case, I show nothing but kindness, patience, and forgiveness to the people around me in the hopes of one day being able to show even one of those to myself, all the while being numb to when others give those to me
Thank you, that helped me a lot after going through a recent bout of depression for the first time. It is a very confusing thing to go through and this clarified a lot of understanding for me
For being a comedy that is meant shock people with it's offensive humor it handles many topics better than serious shows that talk about modern and past issues. In their episode about tourette syndrome they broke stereotypes of the disorder and showed how not everyone with TS has swearing or even verbal tics. South park has shown situations that trans people have to go through, they also represented gay people with Tweek and Craig in a way that is better than most shows, they've also handled racism, sexism, mental illnesses, etc. They make jokes in a way that in some situations actually help people better understand what some people struggle with. This is part of why I love South Park. I would highly recommend the show to anyone reading this.
I mean they've made a really bad episode about trans people before
@@starletd6819 dude it's southpark.
@@starletd6819 Yeah most topics they've confronted pretty well, but trans issues I can distinctly recall more negative depictions, or being more about the struggles society goes through rather than any actual person. "Stunning & Brave" featuring Jenner that shows the "pressure" society places to be entirely supportive, then the latest season's episode and the Garrison saga that pretty well trivializes the situation.
There is the one where Cartman fakes it to get his own private bathroom time, but no actual trans character I can remember.
@@originalrkmorton Yea and the one they did about the fake trans athlete
You know the south park mcboogerballs episode how it says people find meanings even of its just for fun thats you
But the ending of "Assburgers" actually suggests that depression doesn't necessarily go away (hence why Stan takes a swig of whiskey before going out with his friends at the end of the episode). I have had depression for over five years, and what I've learned is to live with it. Some days are clearly better than others.
At the end of day, nothing really changes, that's the truth Trey and Matt brave enough to say. Hope you well, man. We all suffer.
Yup lol
Sadly haha but also real shit panic laughing.
Tbh i wonder if it's canon that Stan became an alcoholic like his father.
In recent episodes he hasn't really said much or lead the charge as in previous episodes. He just sorta stands there.
Meanwhile Kyle has been getting angrier and blowing up over stuff while Cartman has become...lazier or less motivated (probably a good thing considering how he once was).
Only one that sorta hasn't changed much is Kenny. Then again his growing up happened prior in the episode he learns that he is immortal and the sodosopa episode where they try to get a whole foods.
@@fumothfan9 Kyle is always the hypocritical one. In the epidemic special, he literally tries to steal the vaccines after saying shit to Cartman's capitalist plan.
Cartman is the same old Cartman I think. I like him a lot and love to see him suffer :)
For Kenny, it makes me sad that they seem to give up on him and don't really give him enough spotlight. (Though it is understandable since he is super popular in the earlier seasons).
treating depression with a depressant!? imo and experience (40+ years), altering biochemistry is self-defeating. what helps me is existential psychology and music.
I was more interested in the assburgers when I watched that episode tbh I didn't even realise Stan was depressed
The emotion of depression does pass, but the mental illness doesn't pass so easily.
I first watched this episode when I was 11 (I shouldn't have watched South Park as kid in the first place, lol). That whole episode had resonated in me for a long time, and I didn't know why. After not watching the show in a while, and watching your video, now I recall its profound meaning
I've had depression for years along with having autism and suffering anxiety and I can say I've always felt like that. That nobody cared that I was depressed and everyone expected me to just get my act together even though I couldn't or I didn't want to
i don’t have aut, but i do only have depression and anxiety so i understand where you’re coming from. people expect you to immediately try to act like them and others, but they really don’t understand and have the perspective that those with depression/anxiety have. i could easily get “my act together” (let’s be real no one has their act together), but that’s not an exciting good life. it’s best to be your own person, conformity is a disease, it’s better to heal on your own and ride along on the self love journey
That's how things were like for me for the past several years. And I have asperger's syndrome (it's a part of the autism spectrum), so I understand where you're coming from. A lot of my depression stemmed from school and how everyone there acts like a jerk and treats me like dirt, especially after 5th grade. They do that to each other too, though. I never understood it... Well, now my depression also stems from my bleak view on the future.
Since I've faced this for so long, I made this general assumption that this is how everyone acts (though I know that has to be wrong), so I learned to defend myself by simply not making myself noticed. Until I met this one person in my life who faces the exact same issues I go through daily with even the same mental disorder. We're close friends, though her severe depression tends to make me feel uncomfortable at times. Though I know what that's like, so I comfort her and tell her that there's a light at the end of the tunnel somewhere. We're always comfortable talking about our issues with each other, and just like how I help her out with her depression she helps me out with mine. It's a very happy and mutual relationship. :) I even discuss art and animation with her, and she's very supportive of my passions. She's an extraordinarily nice, smart person, and a very talented artist, so it sickens me to know how poorly she's being treated by the rest of the school. We usually text each other through Facebook Messenger, because of how we usually get made fun of by our peers for simply talking to each other in public...
I really do wish I could just wave a magic wand and make her or your depression go away, though I know how unrealistic that is. If it weren't for her, I may not even be here today. And I feel that likewise she would've been worse off without me, considering how everyone at school treated her.
So just as I told her that there's a light at the end of the tunnel, I'm telling you the same. One day you may meet someone who becomes your best friend, so try to be open and keep your friends in your life and treat them well, unless they either treat you horribly or simply don't want to be your friend. It will help with the depression, trust me. Know also that if your friend has bad behavior and that isn't normal for them, they could just be going through a phase or a very rough patch in their life, so in that case try comforting them and letting them know how much you care about them. If I knew the solution to every problem in life, I would tell you, but I don't. The world is a very complicated and bizarre place, so there's gonna be a lot you'll have to figure out on your own.
*What I'm saying is, despite how cheesy this sounds, try to deal with the bad in life and cherish the good. Because your good experiences and memories don't deserve to be soiled by bad ones. Also know that you matter, and that you can do incredible things in this world! I should also mention that it is highly recommended that you seek help for your depression by talking to a therapist, as they are trained to deal with these issues. Helped me out a lot.*
@UC9oPLBPlwUUiCsDnQWePwEQ Thank you for the kind words, unfortunately I lost my only friend when me & my family were close to being thrown out into the streets. I tried asking him for help, asking him & his mom if I could stay with them. My mom didn't want me to be living with her & her boyfriend/fianace as they were gonna live in our car.
But he said that his house was too full. This wasn't the first time my family was on the edge of becoming homeless. I've asked him this same question before but this time while texting his mom and stressing the situation I was in she said I was being manipulative by making my friend feel bad.
It's been months since I've talked to him and I've always felt alone ever since and even when I felt like he was my friend then. He always had other friends and due to that he couldn't always hang out with me and I would always be disappointed when he turned me down when asking to hang out.
I guess eventually this would be the outcome, I guess I should have figured it out back then to save myself the trouble of losing a friend.
I don't have autism but I do have serious anxiety and I can confirm that at times it just feels like people don't get your situation, no matter how clear you try to make it for them.
Like someone who fights depression all my life I can tell that people dont have problem with depression itself, but with the lack of efforts towards helping yourself to overcome it. Imagine someone having cancer, but not going to a doctor, or taking meds, or looking into ways to get cured. Same thing.
"Winston has been hit"
"patch him up and get him to the back as soon as he's stable!"
TRIAGE AT DAWN
"Gordon Freeman? It's incredible you made it"
I didn’t understand this comment until I heard the fucking half life music
GIVE ME HATE ON MY VIDEOS
Depression isn’t always about being on the wrong road..it’s about not seeing one at all sometimes..
I got asked by a friend in anger once "do you even want to get better?"
Whilst I am a LOT better and have made fantastic process (without sounding big headed), I still come to the conclusion that I honestly do not know. In the best kind of way - it's almost easier to be depressed and to give up as you don't have to fight anymore. You don't have to care. You can continue drinking. To not have people in your life to disappoint or for them to be disappointed in you (which simply does happen, even by the most understanding of people and those that are close to you). To lose that job and to be done with it. To give up on that course. To sleep all day. To not take care of yourself.
Of course it's really not better or easier. It's still a constant fight against your own willpower. Your own mind. Your own body. Every blow to your life sets you back that one extra bit. Every friend lost is less strength. Every drink and drug taken is another day lost. If you lose your job then you lose money, which sets you down an even worse path. You're nothing but a husk that sleeps and barely eats. And you can do this with a smile. You can trick everyone that you're okay - which takes a lot out of you too.
But at that point you just don't CARE about any of it. Caring is hard, but caring is what brought me back. Not my own caring, but people caring about me. You're a husk that can see an entire year go by without actually feeling a day but simultaneously have that day feel like a year.
Depression is a literal disease that kills at least 850,000 people world-wide a year. That's figures taken from countries that accept that depression is real and list it as part of the CoD. So that number is in fact higher. And higher still for those that it doesn't kill.
It spreads amongst families, friendships and communities like a literal plague. Please, if you feel that you are then reach out. Talk to someone. Try and take those steps to get your life back.
It’s funny how comedy shows do better representation of mental struggles than serious shows.
@Connor McAllister Also they do good representation like Craig and Tweek, they actually have two gay kids who are a couple on the show. That’s has gore, racist jokes, and inappropriate humor. Unlike serious shows with no humor that rarely do representation right. That’s say *A LOT*
ahem Bojack Horseman ahem
Comedy is only one side of the coin, on the other side is tragedy. I'm always concerned for comedians because the funniest people have usually gone through something(s) heavy and have learned to cope with laughter.
Comedies can show the truth
I thinks its because these episodes arw quite contrary to the rest of them. You know early, the topuc is being serious, one if the MCs is acting differently.
With that your interest is being awakened and you are curious about how the episode unfolds
And with that interest you are paying attention to the details (Stan's Eyes being depressed and lifeless, his emptiness, how he tries to cope with it
I cant tell you how many episodes arw unfolded snd what the events per episode are. They all have funny scenes and its difficult to match them. But an episode about depression - i remember much more how it unfolds.
Serious shows have MANY serious themes i can imagine; and i think the topics are overlaying with each other and are towning down each other (my assumption)
Oh also since we're talking about Stan and depression... he really can't catch a break.
You need a little bit of south park backround knowledge especially for the last few seasons to really get what's going on but I'll try to explain it anyway so basically Stan's dad bought a farm outside of South Park and Stan absolutely HATES it. He hates that he can't hang out with other kids like he used to, he hates how it takes him one hour to get to school and he hates his dad, the person he lives with.
So durning last year's pandemic special he is so desperate to live a normal life again and he tries to play it off as if he's doing it for his friend Butters, but really he just wants his old life back. So eventually near the end of the episode he has a breakdown and admits that not only is that because of the pandemic stress but also because of everything that came before. This child absolutely hates EVERYTHING that's going on in his life right now and he would do anything for a little bit of normalcy.
"if you are suffering as much as I am, please tell me"
@Khayman Sember it's character development bro, stfu
@Khayman Sember I think that could be reflective of how little attention Randy pays to his kids. Shelly also hates everything, granted she’s a teenager so you could attribute it to that but both of them are clearly going through something and neither parent is really trying to see that. Especially Randy.
I'm still in awe that Eric fucking Cartman did the right thing. Even the worst scumbag in the show was worried about his friend and decided to not be selfish for the first time ever. That was beautiful.
Is the child you, Padme?
Ive lost good friends, a good relationship, and good experiences due to depression (my own or others involved) - Its never fun. Always been an advocate for self care; its always nice to get some help and support for these very real things.
as someone who's parents divorced while I was a young age, the best thing you can do is understand why and try to accept it
I can't help but see how everyone seems to sort of overlook the ending of this story. When all is said and done and everything turns back to normal for Stan, once the 3 other boys come over to invite him out, he leaves with them only to return to his room, pull out a bottle and take a swig before heading out. The whole story resonated with me as I went through something very similar. For a while, I had to get absolutely plastered to go out and enjoy life again. After a while it turned into exactly that, taking a swig before joining my then friends. To me this kinda showed Stan still having issues, but soothing them with a bit of booze. I can't forget that little detail, as it sort of shows his depression didn't get fixed or changed, he merely started self medicating to deal with it all. While this most likely was just left in as a "haha he's still drinking" moment for the show, I can't help to have kept it in my mind ever since that episode, and wondered whether it might be something they'll bring up again sometime later. Great episode(s?) nonetheless
Check the Post Covid specials, they actually didn't forget!
Dead on. He didn't get better. He didn't change. He got better at hiding the depression and his alcohol dependence. This episode did NOT end well for Stan.
@@Nobiemon can't watch that yet I'm afraid, don't have access to paramount+ (or any streaming service as it is, moneys tight). Glad to hear they brought it up though, looking forward to seeing it once I financially am able to.
I think the meaning of that is that depression will always be there, no matter what, but you can take steps to make your life 70-80% better with a mindset
For sure you don't just wake up and become anew maybe you start coping in a diffrent way and experience a different layer of depression but it's a process in healing you'll never get back to who you were cause you changed drinking helped me transition from a place of darkness to a place of healing but I eventually came around and stopped that
This was a very emotional episode for me since I related to stan a lot. When I was depressed everyone just said I was lazy with a bad attitude and I felt alone, and instead of drinking I stopped sleeping thinking it made me happier since I was so miserable during the day. The whole time I felt like no one was trying to help me, and those who were were going about it in a horribly wrong way, so it broke my heart to see how, like me, stan was going through so much and didn't seem to get the help he needed. In the end, we were both able to get through it, so hopefully, next time I watch this episode I can view it with a sense of victory and satisfaction.
Beautiful.
Been there, specially in that 'sleep during day' phase. It's terrible.
@@Toxic2T really messes with your circadian rhythm
@@gama5942 truth
You’re 12
I didn't find this helpful until I saw the last minute before it ends. He accepts that he is depressed and lives by it. Every time he is happy, he is just trying to hide it. This is the most relatable thing I've ever seen by far. I too accepted my depression, although I still need to seek professional help.
Butters speech that pulls Stan out of his slump was golden. It stays with me to this day. So does Kitty’s answer to Eric when he asks her how she deals with all her stress from work. She just turns the radio up and sings louder. Which evolves into a wholesome mother and son singing moment.
Depression: Exists
Asian family: I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that.
Also schools
@@blueblood992 exactly
its true when it comes to asian parents the ignore the sign when they got ignored before
For real. Looking back at my behavior I was obviously depressed, my mom even said to me one day that I look miserable then carried on Hahshshaha. This shit sucks.
무디 my mom is korean too. i was not sleeping or eating properly and she always told me i look "dead" and laughed at me and ridiculed me. no concern, just disdain. i was only 9-12 and i did not get help until i was 16
'i haven't changed the world has, don't you see it?"
'no! and i don't want to"
mood, i was so much happier 12 years ago before i saw how fucked the world is
@Ano N. Ymous Nice toxic positivity through naivety/detachment/ignorance/subconscious protection.
@@TheJustinAlexander Bruh, I don't necessarily disagree, but don't you think it's just kinda wrong to assume that someone didn't suffer enough in their life because of a comment they made on a youtube video?
Some people who suffered a lot in their lives adopt a somewhat positive mentality to keep themselves going. I dunno man, just sounds a bit wrong
@@TheJustinAlexander My dude....they even said they "don't necessarily disagree" with you. They simply stated that to assume or compare the suffering of another person is kind of a shitty thing to do (and they're right). So no they didn't try to invalidate everything else you said, you're just acting childish and throwing around insults for literally no reason right now. Not a good look bruh
The good far outweighs the bad. But good doesnt get clicks, likes, shares, subscribes, as well as bad does. You have to go out of your way to find the good, while the bad always finds you. People in general are selfish, but the majority by far wont go out of their way to fuck you up/over. A majority of the people will even go out of their way to help (if theyre able to), and a lot wont purposefuly worsen your situation even more. Toxic negativity/positivity are exactly that, toxic and unrealistic.
@@TheSale98 Making it sound as if CZcams/SM is the entirety of reality & examples are limited to or generalized entirely around social interaction...
"it's hard for stan and kyle..."
this reminds me of something I once said to my two closest friends, lovers who occasionally had their disputes and when it happened I was often caught in the middle... when I wanted them to understand why I stuck around trying to help them...
"loving someone doesn't JUST mean loving them when it is EASY... sometimes, truly loving them means loving them when it could be the hardest thing in the world to do at that exact moment..."
when I found a therapist for them, he agreed that I clearly had a deep profound love for them, to have worked so hard to help them... I'm glad that I was able to do that for them, even if they did ultimately separate... He's gone now, but thankfully they did reconcile as friends before he passed. I need to talk to her, it's been crazy around here and last chat was around Halloween last year... was our favorite holiday (not his though, lol, he hated it... "why would you WANT to be scared?" he asked when she and I went to a "haunted house" made out of an Apple Orchard XD)
...Note, that doesn't mean that letting your emotions get the better of you in that moment...doesn't mean you "don't love them" >.> in fact, that love might be what is pushing you in that direction as well, because you feel betrayed or something...in that exact moment. Emotions are crazy complicated sometimes... but one of the last lessons he taught me will always stick with me...
"your feelings matter, they are valid...never let anyone tell you otherwise... not even ME"
...it's hard, and not everyone can do it... but if you can help someone, if you believe in it... maybe you should?
what did Peter say to Jameson when he took the mask off for him.. "I do this to save lives...and if this will save YOURS..."
I remember watching this episode when I was 15 for the first time and it only reinforced my extreme depression at the time. I wish your video was around back then cause the insights you shared here were eye-opening.
The thing I didn't like about this whole thing was the reversal of fortune that Stan has. After realizing that his life is changing and he decides to roll with it, his parents reconcile, they move back to their old house, and everything returns to normal. So now Stan's life is back to way it was and the episode ends with him drinking whiskey just to get through the day.
We have no control over life sometimes you don't have the money, freedom or options to move to a new setting, you are just stuck in hell
It wasn't supposed to be a good thing, when he realised everyone's life was better the way they are now, everything goes back to the way it was before just to say "yeah, life is still bad, and you don't have control over it" (sorry if I made some grammatical errors, English is not my main language)
Its meant to make fun of the trope "the status queue is god"
South Park was episodic when this episode was released, it would be weird if someone were to watch SP and Stan's parents were divorced without knowing the context.
It was written like this on purpose. It was meant to represent him “giving in” to the views people around him view depression. He learned that the people around him will only be more toxic if he’s honest with his feelings, so he sadly adapts to mask his feelings with unhealthy coping mechanisms like drinking. It’s sad but it was written to reflect how real people’s depression is stigmatized and how real people with depression are not always treated like their depression is real. To the point Stan would rather pretend he’s okay than hear other people tell him why he shouldn’t feel how he feels and cutting Stan out of their lives for being “a downer”. This sadly happens all too often in real life. I loved that they ended it like this because I had a bad experience with friends abandoning me for being honest about my struggles with depression. Some people really won’t think twice about giving up on friends just bc they aren’t in a good place and Stan sadly decided he would rather fake being happy
"depression is temporary". yea, but sometimes temporary until death.
“Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem”. I’m not sure if this quote suits with your comment but I do feel it does
@@_.d4ed That one size fits all approach doesn't work... how do you know every single individuals person's problem(s) are temporary? you don't. pure ignorance at it's finest.
@@sniper_militia5476 I didn’t mean to be ignorant, it’s just a quote that I saw that I felt fitted the statement.
@@sniper_militia5476 it was similar to what the person said, so that’s why I said it. It doesn’t necessarily mean that all problems that come from depression are temporary, but at the same time they don’t necessarily last forever either. It’s all about getting the right help. I understand on how you might think of it differently, but calm down and don’t assume immediately. As someone who has delt with depression and effects from trauma, I didn’t mean to sound ignorant especially on something I went through.
I mean, life is temporary, so it still stands.
What a beautifully crafted video, thank you for your efforts and the closing message was wonderful.
I did have to deal with a friend who suffered from depression. I did eventually help her with it, but she ended up manipulating me and abusing me mentally. She pushed all of her sadness and stress to me to make herself feel better. I didn’t care, i helped her more only to realize i was hurting myself for the better of someone.
Thats why i related to this quote: 4:34
*its ok to love your friends, true friends stick by eachother so side. But friends don’t abuse the other. Never let a friend like this into your life. But if you have a friend like Stan, stick by them and help them.*
I'm so sorry that you got a friend like that, it's because of them that people keep thinking everyone fakes depression or doesn't take it seriously. My parents are trying to get me a diagnostic but, I would never act like that, hurting people makes me feal even worse. I hope everything in your life goes well because you're a good person. Have a good life.
Ironically. South Park and Mature games like Grand Theft Auto has taught me more important life lessons than my PG childhood cartoons and school oddly.
l mean they are Mature Rated.
How did gta teach you life lessons
There’s a reason why it’s rated for mature audiences.
Exactly, the world isn't sunshine and rainbows like cartoons show, it's dark. That's why shows/games for adults like south park, can represent it so well, it was made to talk about adult topics.
@@idgaf1241 I could be driving along, minding my own business, and a military assault helicopter could destroy me in an instant
As somebody who came out of major abuse as a child, I've struggled with depression my entire life. I was diagnosed by a therapist with depression at 12 years old. One of the most positive leaps I made in improving my mental health was exactly what you said.
Sometimes being sad is okay. When you're living with trauma, you get uncontrollable waves of depression and sadness that creep up on you at random intervals. You'll be happy for one minute, and then you get hit with a wave of depression. Some days you wake up feeling different, and some times of the year are harder for you. Realizing that that was okay, helped a lot. Sometimes being sad within reason is healthy.
I was diagnosed at like.. 7 or 9? Am I ok??
@@Professional_Dumbass dude...
@@cameronstandifird8210 idk but i remember i was young. depresso runs in the family ;u;
As esotheric as it sounds but acceptance is the key in my opinion. and that doesn't mean once you accept you're depressed and sometimes sad or lonely it's going to heal entirely. Sometimes these things stick with you forever but accepting they're there will change your view on them and yourself. It's getting yourself out of the victim role and help you cope with those situations. Also after a traumatic event, accepting that you'll probably never be able to go back to your former self is an important step in healing and moving on. I'm still doing that but I realized it just recently and it was lke a huge bubble in my head poppin and gates opening up. It's work, lots of work and can take a lot of time but it's possible!
Balance is the key
Honestly I'm not even sure how to describe what the line is between Depression, sadness and feeling fine.
This entire week has had nothing but downs, I've been attacked by people I love and while I understand why they did what they did, I just feel backed into a corner.
I've tried to focus on what makes me happy but then everyone tells me to stop cause it's dragging me down and making me a failure. I don't... Really know how but.. if they're not gonna stop talking then at some point I'm gonna listen.
Then at the same time I'm just told to keep busy and ignore it cause if I'm busy then I won't have time to focus on it. While it works for a time it just doesn't go away. I'll run, keep busy at work, but when I come home exhausted my mind will not slow down.
Then people I love and want nothing more than the best for them talk so down... I can't help but feel hopeless. How do you keep positive when everyone you help is falling..?
What's the point in trying if we're all doomed to fail? Why do we bother trying if everything you've done just collapses?
Everyday I just wake up with a headache. My heart stopped beating earlier today and I began coughing. *Coughing.* That hasn't happened before which means it's getting worse.
But... Who am I to stop what's inevitable.
Gonna die one day, so..
Yeah I agree that ignoring the issue with work doesn't work. Even though I don't know what exactly you are going through, I pray that you will be open to hear this, that you could also pray to Jesus Christ (even if you are not a believer) about this. Of course this is not saying that you could pray things away but pray for you to be comforted by God and have peace during this time. To be able to tell / write down to God and have clarity over the issues you have been facing
Everyone Will soooo yeah 🥰
I’m in a weird point in my life right now where I have broken through a depression that lasted as long as I can remember. So I’m just looking back at that point of my life knowing it’ll happen again, but for now. I am happy. I am optimistic about what I can do right now, but the one thing that hasn’t changed is that I want to bring out the best in others. My coping mechanism was that I just put what little energy I had into making others happy so they can feel what I don’t. But now I can be happy WITH everyone
I love how depression in the show is represented by shit.
Depression isn't shit, it just makes everything shit
Sometimes people aren’t just wanting to be mean
Their traumatized because something happened to them that hurt them inside so it changed the way that they looked at the world
They just hated humans it’s kind of something that happened to me...
This is really accurate and really relatable to me
I love your videos you always have great videos imo :)
15 years. still waiting for those good times. maybe it was those good times that i needed to have to really hammer in this sadness and emptiness i truly deserve.
I just had the courage to get diagnosed after years of my parents fighting, the bullying, the stress college brings. Two decades of pain came crashing on me during that session. I never got to process it. Now I'm on my meds, finally trying to see that future I've been trying to grasp while depressed through. No matter who you are, whether you're male, female, gay, lesbian, you're valid. It's okay to go get help. It doesn't make you weak, defeated, a loser, or a quitter. If all else, you're being brave for taking that first step to save yourself. If you happened to see yourself in this video as if you're looking at a mirror, as I did, it's never too late to stand up. If this can save at least one life, that's one more person who can possibly change this world for the better.
I'm not trying to take away from anyone who suffers depression like this. I don't want anyone thinking that. I would just like to say that depression can also be completely hidden. Some can go on laughing, joking and genuinely have a good time. But there's always this.. dark cloud in your mind. And when you're alone, everything seems darker. So you try to distract yourself from it, rather than treat it. You could know you're loved. That you have people who care for and want the best for you. But you can't seem to ever... get better. It's difficult to explain.
It's called intrusive thoughts.
When your failures, worries and insecurities come back to haunt your mind.
It's ultimately the result of low self esteem and a few bad experiences. Our brain is wired to never let us forget our major fuckups so we don't do them again. The problem starts when you don't try something new for fear of failure, because you remember the pain of a similar failure.
@@ThZuao I feel exactly like that
actually, you've done a terrific job of explaining. bravo!
“Distract yourself rather than treat it”
This is so true. It’s part of the reason why so many addictions are able to so easily grip some people.
Yah and paired with anxiety just makes everything worse with the "I know I'm loved part". You think you're loved but will always doubt if they're just messing with you
A few quick notes:
1) Depression isn't just temporal. There are a few main types of depression but I'll talk about 2: biological and temporal. Where temporal is an imbalance of chemicals due to life changing, biological is the inability to produce or process those chemicals. A temporal depression may be cured through therapy and in some cases antidepressants, biological depression requires medicines most of the time together with therapy.
2) Depression can express itself in sadness or emotional distress, but it isn't limited to that. In a lot of cases depression manifests itself in the form of lack of sensation (both emotional, sometimes even physical). These two aren't the only effects of depression, but are easier to explain. Where feeling a single emotion or sensing emotional distress is a common and also usually dangerous effect, the absence of emotion or sensation can usually replace this and vice versa. Sometimes this can occur frequently, sometimes it's longer periods of either.
3) In literature, these differences (between temporal Vs. biological & emotional distress Vs. no stimuli) are usually not included or not considered, due to the difficulty of understanding the effect of these differences. Most studies I've read do not consider temporal or biological depression and utilise different models for creating a "depressive response" in their test subjects (mice) or use already depressed people and view their curing process or genetics. (mainly interleukins (IL-1, IL-6, IL-11, TNF), serotonin production in brain, tryptophan absorption through the intestine and transport through platelets.)
*Further Reads*
- A Dialogue between the Immune System and Brain, Spoken in the Language of Serotonin
pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/cn300186b
- Transcriptomics and the mechanisms
of antidepressant efficacy
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0924977X1500334X?via%3Dihub
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I heard psychedelics help
Ty. This video kinda pissed me off lol
Who actually read all that 😂
This is very accurate in terms of my experience of anxiety and depression. To anyone struggling: We see you and we hear you. Mental health is nothing to be ashamed of. You'd be surprised at how common it is if you entertain the idea of opening up to people you trust, or a licensed professional. There is literally a whole field of science dedicated to helping and understanding the things you're struggling with. One of the two top takeaways mentioned in this video that have helped me in the past are the fact that it WILL pass. It will. I'm going to say it again, it WILL pass. States of mind are temporary, as are all things. The second thing is without dark, numb or upsetting feelings there would be no happiness, joy or positivity. Experiencing darkness only leaves more room for the light 😊