This Zerg Strategy Is UNSTOPPABLE In The New Patch...

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  • čas přidán 7. 10. 2023
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Komentáře • 196

  • @glasscannon1815
    @glasscannon1815 Před 8 měsíci +148

    Feels good to see Hydras good like they seem in the lore.

    • @MerlynMusicman
      @MerlynMusicman Před 8 měsíci +20

      Never understood why essentially the posterchild of Starcraft was ever relegated from being the corevzerg unit

    • @lickenchicken143
      @lickenchicken143 Před 8 měsíci

      You want posterchild hydras,@@MerlynMusicman? Play Broodwar. Zerg in the time of SC2 has adapted to anti-hydra tactics. The SC2 Queen was the new poster child. Then it became some Lovecraftian horror from some other dimension, by the end of Legacy of the Void, IMO.

    • @hm09235nd
      @hm09235nd Před 8 měsíci +10

      @@MerlynMusicman they are so much more iconic than roaches. actually xenomorphic as opposed to those stumbling bedside tables.

    • @chloesmith4065
      @chloesmith4065 Před 8 měsíci +1

      These were core in BW

    • @lickenchicken143
      @lickenchicken143 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @hm09235nd great word. Hydras closely resemble but for copyright purposes are distinct from some Tyranid unit in a tabletop war game called Warhammer 40K.
      You don't find burrow move units Zergly enough? Burrowing is iconically Zerg. Yeah they don't look lean and mean, but dad bod is a look nowadays isn't it?

  • @calgaryhockey6991
    @calgaryhockey6991 Před 8 měsíci +86

    13:44
    uThermal: I was actually clenching so hard there
    Me: Exactly the same
    uThermal: I could just feel the stress in my jaw.
    Me: Oh well not exactly.

  • @klumzyee
    @klumzyee Před 8 měsíci +197

    yeah.. boys.. we've lost him.. he's been fully consumed by the swarm now. my terran heart :(

  • @fernandoxavier3089
    @fernandoxavier3089 Před 8 měsíci +42

    Ferls good to see a Terran saying that drops are Imba. It would be way better if the overlords could cure the hydras.

  • @ErenisRanitos
    @ErenisRanitos Před 8 měsíci +76

    dear Harstem
    this noob didn't even use creep and STILL KILLED ME WITH HYDRA DROPS

    • @slimpwarrior
      @slimpwarrior Před 8 měsíci

      No reason to spread creep if you have the meaty medivacs

  • @nw3052
    @nw3052 Před 8 měsíci +29

    Holy shit what a last game. Definitely Lowko material

    • @DrMJJr
      @DrMJJr Před 8 měsíci +1

      ABSOLUTE MADNESS!!! I loved it...Lowko would geek out, I'm sure lololol!!!

    • @AXharoth
      @AXharoth Před 8 měsíci

      this guy was STrong af

    • @bigballzrob9769
      @bigballzrob9769 Před 8 měsíci +3

      @LowkoTV Cast that game!

  • @bookworm8415
    @bookworm8415 Před 8 měsíci +12

    This ravenger play reminded me of Harstem, Reynor, and Serral talking about why they build things, and harstem saying he opens oracle nearly every time because it counters so much and more or less forces standard play.

  • @tilmanvogel2387
    @tilmanvogel2387 Před 7 měsíci +2

    3:35 "25 is a good number, I like using round numbers... if 25 is too much I can go 25-2" x-D

  • @Chris-md1cf
    @Chris-md1cf Před 8 měsíci +9

    Insane game. Couldn't believe he had enough money to make that many hatcheries.

  • @chir0pter
    @chir0pter Před 8 měsíci +6

    I want to see a proxy nydus network then when he scouts your base you open a worm in front of him so he doesn’t know the other terminus is already across the map

  • @ButtKraken01
    @ButtKraken01 Před 8 měsíci

    Oh! I loved hearing about your experiences with Stormgate!

  • @darrenmoxon9622
    @darrenmoxon9622 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Used to use that hydra drop way back in SC1, it was unstoppable then too , nice to see some old memories ! :):)

  • @mental4508
    @mental4508 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I’ve been working on perfecting a ling/ravager timing, it works really well with Erik’s 15/15 double gas trick opener. Hits at 5 mins with 6 ravagers and 24 lings, except you can afford to get to 2 base saturation with a third base down before the timing lands so you can macro after. The ravagers are amazing at quickly sniping the 3rd base then you’re just ahead and can easily transition to ling/bane/hydra

  • @bellwether6343
    @bellwether6343 Před 8 měsíci +1

    18:25 did the Overlords just high fived??😱😱😱

  • @craigcroy4615
    @craigcroy4615 Před 8 měsíci +1

    The computer liked to drop hydras and lings back in brood war. Infinite money 8 player fun. Good old days

  • @davidelrizzo
    @davidelrizzo Před 8 měsíci +3

    I think seeing Marc using Hydra drops is his absolute comfort zone. More please! 😂❤

  • @theashenfox
    @theashenfox Před 8 měsíci +1

    Gonna have to add my voice to the 'don't like intro' crowd, watching your games without spoilers is more enjoyable. :)

  • @dogabutila
    @dogabutila Před 8 měsíci +31

    You should do the, only use one type of unit to beat a GM, but this time with protoss and zerg.

  • @ja3482
    @ja3482 Před 8 měsíci +4

    I'm really happy they're trying to patch Hydras to make them viable again. I always loved that unit even back from SC1 🙌🏻

  • @hamesbone
    @hamesbone Před 8 měsíci +1

    Mass Hydra was always my go to in Brood War, 9 macro hatches, all hydra, A-move, REPEAT

  • @marcaudette173
    @marcaudette173 Před 8 měsíci +26

    What about a Zerg expansion prevention strat: hatch block their natural, queen drops to put creep on other bases. Force them to one base you or take expansions suuuuper late.

    • @detergent2575
      @detergent2575 Před 8 měsíci +3

      I legit do this all the time against T. My standard play is a queen roach drop, if they smash it down I take my queens in the drop and creep all their expansions

  • @adityakessarker1924
    @adityakessarker1924 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Would it work better if you build Evo chamber and Hydra Den at the front wall in the natural to make it look like Hydra Timing, so opponent doesn't make a spire, and follow that up with Swarm Host play?

  • @iamthealgorithm3190
    @iamthealgorithm3190 Před 8 měsíci +13

    You should do a defence only to grandmaster series with every race

  • @altonito777
    @altonito777 Před 7 měsíci

    Did I miss some changes on the hydra ? The most recent patch says they reduced cost and time of upgrades but were there some changes prior to that ?

  • @macmac6064
    @macmac6064 Před 8 měsíci +6

    Marine+medivac at home

  • @smotbutterman1127
    @smotbutterman1127 Před 8 měsíci

    13:46 Lol, dude!

  • @MrSyneks
    @MrSyneks Před 8 měsíci

    Hello uThermal, do you have a Playlist of a beginners guide? I would like to get into sc2 and try to be good with Terran and was wondering how the timings, bo and whatnot work

  • @zollof6699
    @zollof6699 Před 5 měsíci

    Bro, that last ZvZ was CHAOTIC. So good.

  • @Pierre-gk5ky
    @Pierre-gk5ky Před 8 měsíci

    Mark is channeling some real 2010 nestea with that creep spread.

  • @iskandar7688
    @iskandar7688 Před 8 měsíci +6

    TIL I learned 25 is a round number :D

  • @XfStef
    @XfStef Před 8 měsíci

    That last match was like watching Benny Hill with the title song on =)))

  • @Margus81
    @Margus81 Před 8 měsíci +5

    I dont like the spoilers in the beginning… I guess I can skip them over.

  • @the40yearoldgamer41
    @the40yearoldgamer41 Před 8 měsíci

    One quick question... when dropping from a moving overlord he is individually clicking "Drop All" on each overlord and then just moving them as a group apparently... I was under the assumption you have to hit "Drop" for each individual unit multiple times.... ?

  • @throughsoul
    @throughsoul Před 8 měsíci +1

    You might consider putting a spore or two by the nydus if the only unit he will have to kill it are mutas. If you consider the time and cost to rebuild nydus it might be worth the drone plus 75. One spore and a couple of queens should be able to defend it for a while at least. That is until he sends other kinds of units to kill it which you might be able to kill with SH and queens.

  • @Jaryism
    @Jaryism Před 8 měsíci +5

    That last game was amazing.. it shows how much macro has to do with this game, someone can just get annihilated fight after fight and still be hanging almost even just by being up 2 bases.

  • @immarudamu4508
    @immarudamu4508 Před 8 měsíci

    That last zvz had me sweating 😅 GGs!

  • @Ty-bz7zx
    @Ty-bz7zx Před 8 měsíci +3

    Would imagine queens might be best? Can hit air & ground & heal.

  • @jtvanilla1776
    @jtvanilla1776 Před 8 měsíci

    Brings me back to sc1 days, where you just mass hydras and nothing can win

  • @randomname6010
    @randomname6010 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Is it possible to make like overloards hover them over your army and make it difficult for the opponent to target specific units under them like is that a thing? I really dont star craft just a random thought I had.

  • @davidloxton2871
    @davidloxton2871 Před 8 měsíci

    Wow that last game was awesome, that guy was so resilient lol

  • @wowfreak10
    @wowfreak10 Před 8 měsíci +13

    So hydras are actually really viable now for the cost

    • @Deto128
      @Deto128 Před 8 měsíci +1

      What really changed, though, to where they are better now?

    • @wowfreak10
      @wowfreak10 Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@Deto128 upgrades are cheaper/faster I know that

    • @CommieCat
      @CommieCat Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@Deto128 Overlord got a move speed buff, plus the research times got 7 seconds faster for speed and most importantly 21 seconds!! faster on the range upgrade. Hyrdas with range are deadly.

    • @wowfreak10
      @wowfreak10 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@CommieCat yeah, the reason was to be able to counter early air

  • @blackshirtsquad7883
    @blackshirtsquad7883 Před 8 měsíci +1

    @uThermal Tech Zerg to GM - no hatch units allowed (ie. no zerglings or roaches)

  • @charon7320
    @charon7320 Před 8 měsíci

    bro, u are very cool indeed, the whole talking while acting and still maintaining an un-biased educated narration. amazing, watchable af, I just started playin sc2, played sc 1 maybe 20 years ago, I feel like the more knowledge I get the worse may gameplay is, but getting there.

  • @MyNameIsXYlp
    @MyNameIsXYlp Před 8 měsíci

    I like the teaser in the intro

  • @halestormtv
    @halestormtv Před 8 měsíci

    Yo Marc! Can't wait for the Storm Gate cheese series! 😂

  • @110jmartin011
    @110jmartin011 Před 8 měsíci

    16:15, I have played 2 base hydra agression ( not with dropper lords but usually to deny my third while taking a 3/4 and going lurkers) and I find it a very imba play style, I feel like I should be ahead as terran, but I just slowly lose and eventually everything is covered in creep/lurkers and I just cant keep ravens/scans available to do anything about it.

  • @f_c_k_o_f_f
    @f_c_k_o_f_f Před 8 měsíci +1

    Great games! I don’t know how you do it.

  • @romantroshkin3142
    @romantroshkin3142 Před 8 měsíci

    great strategies! nice games

  • @timderstruppi2323
    @timderstruppi2323 Před 8 měsíci +19

    Please no spoilers at the start of the video, exept these I love your videos❤️

    • @DrYmath
      @DrYmath Před 8 měsíci

      Yea not my favorite change either

    • @CommieCat
      @CommieCat Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@DrYmath helps with the algo though

    • @thedanyesful
      @thedanyesful Před 8 měsíci

      He could put a index of timestamps in the description to let us skip it.

    • @TheNeomare
      @TheNeomare Před 8 měsíci

      Channel your inner zerg. Evolve :D. yea its annoying but there is a solution. start watching at 30 seconds or so into the video and tap backwards a couple of times until you see the logo and watch from there ;).

  • @Kylted
    @Kylted Před 8 měsíci

    What a sick game 3. Your games are so good

  • @jeffs.3348
    @jeffs.3348 Před 8 měsíci

    Marc, I just can't bring myself to watch these little intros because I still want to be 100% surprised with what happens! But I get why you do it. It's tempting!

  • @124horst
    @124horst Před 8 měsíci

    lol that last game was insaaaaaane

  • @centopus
    @centopus Před 8 měsíci +1

    Feel like good old noob days of SC1. Hydra doom drops.

  • @momom6197
    @momom6197 Před 8 měsíci

    That whack-a-hatchery game was incredibly satisfying!

  • @Green13Gaming
    @Green13Gaming Před 8 měsíci

    that last player really didn't want to lose to the strat, he didn't want to be content

  • @holsson85
    @holsson85 Před 8 měsíci

    Suggestion: Anything with Vipers, I can't recollect ever seeing you use them?? But I don't know what the challenge would actually be with a unit that just abducts?

  • @ajmaddox1540
    @ajmaddox1540 Před 8 měsíci

    might do ravagers and try to not lose a single unit... hmm... can you burrow ravagers? i don't know if you can or not but if so I'm thinking that would almost be a mandatory upgrade

  • @user-zh5kg2op4h
    @user-zh5kg2op4h Před 8 měsíci +1

    The third map Alcyon LE seem to be twice darker than it should be.

  • @MdSel1
    @MdSel1 Před 8 měsíci

    thats why in first starcraft u allways have to scout ur enemy. leak of info lead to suddent drop.

  • @PashaSlavaUkraine
    @PashaSlavaUkraine Před 8 měsíci +1

    Man I love when uthermal say: we can’t proxy hatch like with tempest.
    Uthermal: actually….
    😂😂😂 bro come up with genius ideas 💡 on the spot. 17:00

  • @user-nd2tp5yv6l
    @user-nd2tp5yv6l Před 8 měsíci

    I suppose it would also be possible to add nidus to the hydralisk drop :-)

  • @ryangreaves6495
    @ryangreaves6495 Před 8 měsíci

    race playstyle hybrid - Zerran

  • @Zenkujo
    @Zenkujo Před 8 měsíci +12

    Would mass-Queen be a way to Zerg without loss? Or Queen+Ravager?

    • @forevergogo
      @forevergogo Před 8 měsíci +4

      Can't overlords drop creep? And queens could heal on the creep- could be a good strat. Especially with mass dropper-lords.

    • @Zenkujo
      @Zenkujo Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@forevergogo yeah, I was thinking either creep-drop and heal etc., or nydus to get the queens into place, drop a tumour and then they can heal to heck

    • @forevergogo
      @forevergogo Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@Zenkujo well if we're gonna spread creep might as well bring in a sunken colony or two. Maybe just an "offensive early creep attack" style.

  • @blamasterk
    @blamasterk Před 8 měsíci

    Make a poll if we like the teaser / spoiler in the beginning.

  • @scaboomba5116
    @scaboomba5116 Před 8 měsíci

    the amount of brainpower you save not spreading creep keeps your micro sharp, a worthy trade off

  • @TheThewhatnow
    @TheThewhatnow Před 8 měsíci +2

    I think 1 base Queen/Swarmhost rush could be used in the no units lost challenge

    • @aleksandrssprogis8895
      @aleksandrssprogis8895 Před 8 měsíci

      Locusts are considered are counted as a unit lost in a post game statistics as far as I know therefore I think swarmhosts will be the most useless unit in that series

    • @TheThewhatnow
      @TheThewhatnow Před 8 měsíci

      @@aleksandrssprogis8895​​⁠i am pretty sure you are just plain wrong on this. Locust cost 0 ressources and is counted as attack and not a unit, it wouldn’t make sense that your units lost would be in the thousands whenever you build swarmlords or broodlords, it would completely ruin any useful data you could get from those statistics if that was the case.

  • @NativeNewMexican
    @NativeNewMexican Před 8 měsíci +1

    For 0 unit loss zerg, offensive hatch w/ sunkens and ravagers seems most likely to work.

  • @Kirk.television
    @Kirk.television Před 8 měsíci

    Let's go!

  • @craigcroy4615
    @craigcroy4615 Před 8 měsíci

    Surprise attacks with burrowed zerglings is some of the most fun you can have with Zerg. Gorilla warfare

  • @sc2starkey
    @sc2starkey Před 8 měsíci

    Use queens to make tumors at nydus exits. Retains sight for future worms

  • @johaneriksson8897
    @johaneriksson8897 Před 8 měsíci

    Love it :D

  • @Velisatra
    @Velisatra Před 8 měsíci

    Games 2 & 3 were crazy

  • @sadghfajdslhgsadklgk
    @sadghfajdslhgsadklgk Před 8 měsíci +4

    Loving the vids Uthermal, now as much as ever, and perhaps extra because of the new patch hype!
    I think you still read all the comments and like to hear feedback on our viewing experiences, so I wanted to let you know I'm not a fan of the new(ish) intros where we see a glimpse/highlight of the episode to come right away. For me it often takes away from the experience of viewing the game, because the short clip I see at the beginning tells me a lot about what happens in the game itself, so find myself less excited about what is happening in the game leading up to this point. I know for example (dunno which vid this was) that the enemy all-in is not scary because the follow up counter that created the highlight shows me you must have survived easily. I don't know the impact the preview has on your viewership and respect that you will make choices that work well for you, but as a viewer I noticed this effect it had on me and thought I would let you know.
    Thanks for the continued vibes and entertainment. Thanks for doing your thing and a lot of love from me

    • @TheNeomare
      @TheNeomare Před 8 měsíci

      I also prefer not to see the into thing and reading your comment it made me think.. The solution is actually kind of simple. I suggest starting to watch the video 30 or 40 seconds in and then taping back 5 seconds at a time until you see the logo.
      it might seam tedious but is not really.. you are about to watch a 35 minute video it is a worthy investment :D. should not take more than 10 or 20 seconds at most to setup.
      As for what it does for him.. I imagine it increases the viewer retention.
      Small price to pay for us regular viewers for him to be doing better.
      Imo anyway.
      Cheers!

    • @sadghfajdslhgsadklgk
      @sadghfajdslhgsadklgk Před 8 měsíci +1

      True! I just figured he ought to hear our thoughts and choose based on all the results and feedback. If he continues, then I assume it boosts his algo/viewership and I will do as you suggest.@@TheNeomare

    • @TheNeomare
      @TheNeomare Před 8 měsíci

      @@sadghfajdslhgsadklgk makes perfect sense! Cheers! :)

  • @loudaccord
    @loudaccord Před 8 měsíci

    How about a rush to 200 supply series? With each race

  • @iHuntBearsWithMyFist
    @iHuntBearsWithMyFist Před 8 měsíci

    Now thats a lot of damage

  • @RaNdomStuffINC9
    @RaNdomStuffINC9 Před 8 měsíci

    back when you made the 'not losing a unit vs a GM' video, you didn't have the traction you have now either on youtube.
    honestly, the renewed interest in SC2, RTS and your channel on youtube, make whatever video you find fun, and you'll probably do well thermy

  • @triceray01
    @triceray01 Před 8 měsíci

    i feel ya creep is underrated

  • @cauchyschwarz3295
    @cauchyschwarz3295 Před 8 měsíci

    "I could pee on his hatcheries" :D

  • @gingeral253
    @gingeral253 Před 8 měsíci

    UThermal consistency

  • @noobbones
    @noobbones Před 8 měsíci

    I hear Imba and think "'Aight boys, send it over to Harstem"

  • @InfinityDsbm
    @InfinityDsbm Před 8 měsíci

    mans dropping hydras like he's terran 🤣

  • @ObliviousNaga
    @ObliviousNaga Před 8 měsíci

    Roach burrow regen is really quick.

  • @sillytechnology
    @sillytechnology Před 8 měsíci

    Brutality!!!

  • @eclipseeffigy
    @eclipseeffigy Před 8 měsíci

    uThermal is on his Kerrigan arc with these infested doomdrops, all he needs is the edgy nickname like Queen of Blades to complete the picture 😈

  • @pr4vus.studios
    @pr4vus.studios Před 8 měsíci

    Uthermal Zerg is the best!

  • @jackryan6446
    @jackryan6446 Před 8 měsíci

    Ravager with burrow to keep from losing any units

  • @Special_Tactics_Force_Unit
    @Special_Tactics_Force_Unit Před 8 měsíci

    Third game was such a clown fiesta, I loved it

  • @riklaunim
    @riklaunim Před 8 měsíci

    What about playing 4vs4 ranked with some new challenges?

  • @disinformationworld9378
    @disinformationworld9378 Před 8 měsíci

    Game 3 👀 😳

  • @Zerohi123
    @Zerohi123 Před 8 měsíci

    Respect to the zerg for dropping a gg

  • @GabrielSantosStandardCombo
    @GabrielSantosStandardCombo Před 8 měsíci

    I love the idea of zero-unit loss to GM. You obviously will lose units, but the goal to try to not lose any, at all costs, would be great to watch.

  • @etherscholar
    @etherscholar Před 8 měsíci +1

    Haha idk I think no loss zerg might be easier with swarm hosts, ehhhhh but maybe not vs gm

    • @thedanyesful
      @thedanyesful Před 8 měsíci +1

      Depends whether you count locusts lost :P

  • @Shwed1982
    @Shwed1982 Před 8 měsíci

    The best way to win with no loses being zerg is a swarm host!

  • @w5im597
    @w5im597 Před 8 měsíci

    soooo cooool match z vs z

  • @sashavoid6106
    @sashavoid6106 Před 8 měsíci

    I think that playing without losing a unit is too insane.
    Maybe instead you could make a 5x less losses challange or something like that.

  • @enjaded7222
    @enjaded7222 Před 8 měsíci +1

    u give a terran player the medivac ONE time, and theyll start doing drops playing zerg.

  • @FlawlesSanshiro
    @FlawlesSanshiro Před 8 měsíci

    what a last game

  • @artemirrlazaris7406
    @artemirrlazaris7406 Před 8 měsíci

    Nydus... and 15 queens is pretty unstopable... so maybe a ravager/ queen cheese... QUeens give that robust healing.

  • @AC3handle
    @AC3handle Před 8 měsíci

    GOtta say, Davdou should be up for most tenacious player of the year.

  • @hurtmegreatly4357
    @hurtmegreatly4357 Před 8 měsíci

    Breaking the ladder again. lol