Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: Challenger 1 Prototype, Pt 2

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  • čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
  • FV4030/4 was developed for British Service to bring British armored forces up to a greater capability than Chieftain whilst pending the development of a true successor vehicle. This trials vehicle differs in some ways from the production Challenger 1, but shows many of the features.
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Komentáře • 463

  • @calvingreene90
    @calvingreene90 Před 2 lety +226

    The fear factor that keeps the emergency trigger from being used except in a real emergency is a safety feature.

    • @Misericorde9
      @Misericorde9 Před 2 lety +64

      At some point there was probably a post-it note reading: "Remain fearful of pushing this button, until you are more afraid of not pushing this button."

    • @Colonel_Overkill
      @Colonel_Overkill Před 2 lety +23

      Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if the gunner carried a 6ish inch long stick in his kit just in case the button had to be used. I wouldn't want my fingers anywhere near the finger removal button personally...

    • @lilkobabunga
      @lilkobabunga Před 2 lety +17

      @@Colonel_Overkill It's a finger(and/or gunner limb) realignment button, It realigns your fingers(and/or gunner limbs) within the tank

    • @Colonel_Overkill
      @Colonel_Overkill Před 2 lety +11

      @@lilkobabunga ehh, less realignment and more creation of modern art on the turret rear. As fast as the breech recoils I doubt a finger would remain attached. It may be able to hang on with a ligament or two or it may bounce around until you give another crewman the finger. Either way it will be a significant emotional event for all involved.

    • @lilkobabunga
      @lilkobabunga Před 2 lety +8

      @@Colonel_Overkill It realigns bodyparts according to the turret's feng shui

  • @mikedelta792
    @mikedelta792 Před 2 lety +35

    As a gunner I used to traverse the turret at some speed, my driver would complain about the heat as the traverse motor moved near his head. Oh what fun those days were. The gunners foot plate didn’t give much room, I could stretch my legs only when we were static. The travel mode was not really used unless you wanted some sleep as a gunner. Normally you would be in stab for moving under gunners control. Trav stab would be for free control, because you didn’t need to pull on the dog clutch. It meant you could get some rest while on the move. Note:Once you stopped, you switched to non stab, this stopped the gun from hunting around. Ie it made the movements more precise. The CCMU was programmed with a steel tape recorder, it was called (Program loading and interface equipment) place for short. The battle links were in the Hull main junction box, this linked the turret and hull batteries together in case you lost your ME main engine and the GUE generating unit engine. Once TOGS came onto the scene, the training became so much harder, you would spend half the night driving around to help train the crews, the day time traing was the same. Making your workload increase. In my opinion, the 87 sight was a really bad design, the linkage was lack, they went back to the chieftain style sight on challenger 2. Thanks for the video, great to see the old girl one more time.

    • @ccavanagh8429
      @ccavanagh8429 Před rokem +1

      Thanks for the reminders

    • @conncorde2694
      @conncorde2694 Před rokem

      Hi i want to ask in TOGS in high mag mode the reticle is circle like on Challenger 2 TOGS ?

  • @Centurion101B3C
    @Centurion101B3C Před 2 lety +193

    Hm, being a former Centurion TC, I have no option but to conclude that where the Centurion would allow for a moderately trained monkey to operate the machine to get a decent time-on-target, I estimate that this prototype Challenger would require a genetically modified genius Octopus to achieve the same.

    • @stevenbreach2561
      @stevenbreach2561 Před 2 lety +11

      I don't believe that for a minute!The Cent gunner had to do "steam gunnery"and like the driver,had to be on top of his game.I was aCheiftain gunner,and joined at the end of the .50 ranging gun,start of the Tank Laser Sight.Apart from the IFCS the gunners position doesn't look that different.I have the utmost respect for Cent crews👍👍👍🇧🇴

    • @scrubsrc4084
      @scrubsrc4084 Před 2 lety +13

      My work mate was a chally gunner. Don't think he's trainable in anything really

    • @Centurion101B3C
      @Centurion101B3C Před 2 lety +7

      @@stevenbreach2561 Well, my National Service gunner (and let's not forget the loader) did have the .50 RMG drill down pat. We managed to get APDS double-taps smack dab on the target turret ring at dot 3 within 7 seconds and later three tracers in the air with HESH defore the first one hit (granted at, 2000 yards). We all felt jolly smug about that. Nothing wrong with "steam-gunnery" if it gets the job done.

    • @ccavanagh8429
      @ccavanagh8429 Před rokem +2

      They we not that bad I was a Chieftain TL and did the Challenger conversion. It was basically the same even the TOGs was the same. There were more boxes and the SEPU added as well as screens. One little gem was the hidden feature where you could dump the core memory of the SEPU by pressing a button out of sequence!

    • @Ingens_Scherz
      @Ingens_Scherz Před rokem +2

      And that is why the army top brass green lit a breeding programme for genetically modified genius Octopi (or "Octopuses" for the less stupid).
      That is why Challenger 2 followed so soon after Challenger 1, and reverted to human beings (albeit base-level examples).
      It's hard to fight a Main Battle Tank filled with seawater. (Sloshes around, you see.)

  • @66kbm
    @66kbm Před 2 lety +105

    I enjoyed those 2 vids on this item. A rarer item as it is not one that was issued/deployed. It would be very interesting to see a side by side of Prototype Chally1 and issued Chally1, see what was kept and what was binned. Pity no "Bugger, the Tank is on fire" was available.

    • @julianshepherd2038
      @julianshepherd2038 Před 2 lety

      I was hoping for an ejector seat or at least a giant spring

    • @abaialsa712
      @abaialsa712 Před 2 lety

      the Germans did the right thing when killing Russians?

    • @thewomble1509
      @thewomble1509 Před 2 lety

      Plenty of pics of Shir 2 (FV4030/3) which was the tank that became C1 for the British Army.

  • @ScottKenny1978
    @ScottKenny1978 Před 2 lety +61

    Battle mode fuse sounds like a solid conductor, no matter how much power you draw through it, it won't blow.

    • @Bird_Dog00
      @Bird_Dog00 Před 2 lety +1

      Didn't they do this on warships as well? Just solid copper bars instead of fuses?

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Bird_Dog00 maybe?
      I wasn't an engineer, so didn't get into that part of the plant.
      I mean, it absolutely would not surprise me.

    • @Colonel_Overkill
      @Colonel_Overkill Před 2 lety +11

      @@Bird_Dog00 yes and no. They were solid copper bars but were connected to circuit breakers. Said breakers could be physically locked down with a knob in both positions to prevent or keep power flow. The theory was better to electrocute or burn the wiring in half the ship than to lose the whole ship. This was US navy design, worked most of the time though USS South Dakota may have a different opinion on the matter.
      Also, look for a video on them that battleship New Jersey did a while back. Its interesting to see a row of breakers the size of a smallish woman. Scientific measurement at its finest!!!

    • @colbeausabre8842
      @colbeausabre8842 Před 2 lety +9

      @@Colonel_Overkill By the way, the guy who ran the Electrical Division of Bureau of Ships during WW2 was a captain by the name of Rickover. He was notorious for how he beat up contractors to improve their designs - because men's' lives could depend on their functioning properly in battle..
      "Sharp-tongued Hyman Rickover spurred his men to exhaustion, ripped through red tape, drove contractors into rages. He went on making enemies, but by the end of the war he had won the rank of captain. He had also won a reputation as a man who gets things done.
      Wonder what happened to him....

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 Před 2 lety +3

      @@colbeausabre8842 Rickover went insane and created the Naval Nuclear Power program.
      And yes, I stand by my assertion that Rickover was insane. Pretty sure that anyone trained by him would agree.

  • @cdburner5911
    @cdburner5911 Před 2 lety +28

    My dad has a scottish aviation bulldog, a RAF trainer from the late 70s, and its air vents are exactly the same as the ones in the tank, how neat!

    • @cmck472
      @cmck472 Před 2 lety +4

      Out of the British Leyland parts bin, no doubt! 😁

    • @cdburner5911
      @cdburner5911 Před 2 lety +6

      @@cmck472 most likely, they seemed to reuse a lot of existing parts. The brake master cylinders are MG clutch cylinders, the starter button is a spitfire starter button. I'm sure there is more I can't think at the moment.

    • @peterpenberthy2918
      @peterpenberthy2918 Před 2 lety +2

      Looks the same as the ones used on ford Cortinas and Escorts.

  • @alan-sk7ky
    @alan-sk7ky Před 2 lety +82

    9:42 See the gunners fire control handle. I used to make them, so that's where they were used. We never knew what they went into only that it was green.
    For the nerdish hot cast epoxy with silica filler, 2ba brass inserts for the screws that hold it all together anodised (sp) aluminium(sp) base plate wot holds it to the mount. Very tough stuff occasionally we would bog one up, air bubble that wouldn't come out under vacuum leaving a void, or a tool leak. Smashing the anodised base out to reuse was troublesome to do and have it in reusable nick, the most common fault was where in the schematic number 3 is pointing the two webs under the square box thing on the side, the rearmost one next to the autolay rocker would hang up in the tool on opening up. ( the parts needed to be removed after the a certain amount of time in the cure oven otherwise they would be too rigid thus causing the breakage, mostly due to variation in the materials used we thought)

    • @TheChieftainsHatch
      @TheChieftainsHatch  Před 2 lety +57

      Ok, that's an obscure level of detail I had never thought to inquire about!

    • @alan-sk7ky
      @alan-sk7ky Před 2 lety +13

      @@TheChieftainsHatch At your service ;-)

    • @mikedelta792
      @mikedelta792 Před 2 lety +18

      I used the gunners firing handle many times in my career. It worked flawlessly, thank you for making a good product.

    • @alan-sk7ky
      @alan-sk7ky Před 2 lety +9

      @@mikedelta792 glad to be of service mate. Did you manage to break one? :-)

    • @mikedelta792
      @mikedelta792 Před 2 lety +6

      @@alan-sk7ky no, as I said very reliable. Thanks for getting in touch.

  • @ulissedazante5748
    @ulissedazante5748 Před 2 lety +36

    Now we have to understand who needed so badly a gunner's seat and a piece of turret basket, and to do what.

    • @Tomartyr
      @Tomartyr Před 2 lety +6

      Bubba works in mysterious ways.

  • @ageingviking5587
    @ageingviking5587 Před 2 lety +34

    Great stuff Chieftain! I am glad you were able to climb back out of that thing .🙂

  • @c00sto
    @c00sto Před 2 lety +53

    Brilliant video. Gunners position looked miserable, yet you powered through.

    • @Shaun_Jones
      @Shaun_Jones Před 2 lety +11

      To be fair, someone did basically steal the gunner’s position at some point.

    • @ZGryphon
      @ZGryphon Před 2 lety +3

      All of the positions on this one looked pretty bad to me, especially the driver's hole. That recumbent driving position... yeah, no. I'd spend all my time feeling the same sort of incipient panic I get in an MRI machine.

    • @iatsd
      @iatsd Před 2 lety +7

      @@ZGryphon Assuming they're roughly the same as the production vehicles, and it looks like they are, all the positions are actually very comfy. Gunners need to be under 6 foot to be really comfy. Everyone else can be a bit over. Driver's position is extremely comfy once you're used to it. Worst is probably the commanders because it has the least room available to stretch or adjust easily.

    • @ccavanagh8429
      @ccavanagh8429 Před rokem

      We were a Scotish regiment so no shortage of small gunners

  • @ThePhoenix198
    @ThePhoenix198 Před 2 lety +6

    7:59 "This is the Override Master Control ..." More commonly known as the "Oh my Christ!" switch 🤣

  • @krissfemmpaws1029
    @krissfemmpaws1029 Před 2 lety +21

    That was interesting and now one can see how tight things can be in some tanks... now I understand why a tanker friend said being in a tank is a love-hate relationship.

  • @janwitts2688
    @janwitts2688 Před 2 lety +12

    When I was young chieftain (the tank) was the new hotness... difficult to process that this is the next level up... and it's now a relic...

    • @mightymediocre3352
      @mightymediocre3352 Před 2 lety +2

      And now so are you... ;)

    • @teaser6089
      @teaser6089 Před 5 měsíci

      Yeah and the funniest is that we are about to see the next Generation of Tank starting to get into development.
      Well at least the EU is developing a next gen tank, as for the British, they are just improving the Challenger 2 design into the Challenger 3, but not a real generational leap and the Americans are as far as I know not even thinking about replacing the Abrams.
      The Germans and French however are co-developing the next generation tank for European armies.
      And no it's not the Rheinmetall Panther tank, that was just a tech demonstrator.
      So yeah I'd say within the next 10-15 years the Challenger 2 and Abrams are going to be relics too, which to be fair they are already decades old at this point haha.

  • @Mjk10957
    @Mjk10957 Před 2 lety +26

    I got to start a challenger 2 once , all i remember was there was loads of buttons that needed pressing a bit complicated for my Infantry brain 🤣🤣 we was out in poland on excerise i was in a anti tank platoon we had challenger 2 playing enemy for us however the tankies invited us over to have a look at there tanks. I have always liked Tanks wanted to be a tankie myself it was my first choice however when i went for my selection for British Army , i failed the eye test i passed every other test but failed the eye test for the Royal armoured core , BY ONE MARK so i ended up going into my second choice which was Infantry , however i was bit of a spoter with the AFV recognition so i got moved out of a Rifle company into surport company Anti Tank Platoon.

    • @willems7454
      @willems7454 Před 2 lety +2

      When was this? Wasnt 99 was it? i rem showing some guys round the challenger 2 in Poland during a fire power demo. We had the TES kit fitted and one of the sensors dangled off the Gun. So me being the arsehole i was was, I was telling some guy from the Green Jackets or was it LI, that its a microwave that can blind infantry from a mile away.

    • @Mjk10957
      @Mjk10957 Před 2 lety +1

      @@willems7454 lol 2007 or 2008 m8 when i was in the royal anglians

    • @teaser6089
      @teaser6089 Před 5 měsíci

      @@Mjk10957 It's funny how the British army complains they cannot find enough recruits, but also have such incredible high medical standards that like 80% of Applicants fail on the Medical Check. xD

  • @expatingermany7685
    @expatingermany7685 Před 2 lety +8

    Great video. I lived near the ATDU in bovington and remember the prototypes driving around all day and night. 3 years later I joined the RAC and went to a chieftain Regt.... The last ever chieftain Regt. Nevertheless you did say turret was basically a chieftain. Points to note. We didn't change the TLS at night, we learned to use the emergency firing button whilst doing the gunnery course, the coolant filled link arm connected the gunners and commander sight so they were always aligned. HESH corrections, yes we did massive amounts of bracketing, it was all part of our 6 week course. But there was a fast and easy trick, " lay the fall of shot onto the target". APDS and DS/T used the same bag charge ( paper caseing) HESH was just half (620 m/s) but APFSDS had its own, it produced so much recoil that the recoil indicator would fly off, so three types of bags. Lap-loading, easy with DS/T, I'd have the projectile hovering over the breach and as it gun recoiled the proj was going inside the gun, never managed that with a HESH. Cannister, we were supposed to carry one, a sort of final shot because it ripped out the rifling, according to my commander it would be use to remove infantry off another tank.

    • @TeddyBear-ii4yc
      @TeddyBear-ii4yc Před rokem

      WW1 battleships/battlecruisers were the same, iirc they carried 6 shrapnel shells per gun?/turret? for the main armament to sweep the decks of enemy warships. And one was fired at an enemy airship/aircraft over the North Sea.

    • @ccavanagh8429
      @ccavanagh8429 Před rokem

      Yes the grape shot charge was used very rarely as it screwed the rifling. We used to get a demo on the first range day at Troop leaders course.

  • @shrek9703
    @shrek9703 Před 2 lety +8

    I'll be honest with you Mr Nicholas, at least 50% of my overall tank knowledge comes from listening to your videos and reading books you suggested or your own book ( Can openers )
    Am I ever glad that wargaming hired you and allowed you to share your knowledge to a wide audience your own way!
    My wife hates me because I've watched so many of your videos that she can actually recognize certain tanks when we watch movies and she has absolutely no interests for them hahaha
    Anyways, felt like giving you some recognition today instead of asking you a question or trying to correct you on something.
    Thank you, Chieftain.
    - Tristan from Canada 🇨🇦

  • @isleofthecheetah
    @isleofthecheetah Před 2 lety +5

    Content like this shouldn't be free, but it is. Great stuff

  • @paoxley
    @paoxley Před 2 lety +14

    Thanks Chieftain for the great tour - I felt claustrophobic just watching this - I'm 6ft 3in. Totally fascinating. I've been watching on CZcams videos of the ruskie tanks destroyed by the drones or handheld rocket launchers. One Ukrainian soldier said his stomach goes in knots when they hear the Russian tanks moving towards them. I'll stick with wot and maybe become a drone pilot - lol. Great video commander!

    • @expatingermany7685
      @expatingermany7685 Před 2 lety

      I'm 5'11", the longest I sat in the gunners position was 3 days in Canada in Sommer. I became a driver after that.

  • @xilaithownage2453
    @xilaithownage2453 Před rokem +2

    Chieftain don't forget the most important bit of equipment on the Chally and all other British Tanks. The Boiling Vessel socket. The Chally had a forced air system but no heating so you got to freeze with the metal. The fire selector rocker switch lases the target when pushed up you keep tracking the target while lasing then move the rocker switch to the bottom for the gun to autolay. This automates the turret to track the target to allow for accurate fire. There is also a pinkie finger switch that allows you to select the Ammo Type which lets the computer know which range scale it should use. I have seen Fin (APFSDS) fired off the HESH scale before hilarious when the round goes flying off into the air though dangerous. Also the Commanders control monitoring unit CCMU was used to input environmental factors like barometric pressure, Temperature etc.
    Thanks for this walkaround it brought back memories from 1988 when my lot moved out of Chieftain.

  • @troglokev
    @troglokev Před 2 lety +20

    Interesting use of green paint as an anti-reflection coating for the cupola optics. I’m not sure of its practicality. The purpose of a prototype is to find out such things, but I think a little thought in the design meeting would have rejected this idea more cheaply.

    • @adrianguggisberg3656
      @adrianguggisberg3656 Před rokem

      That was a US modification. Maybe someone in the Trump administration tried to standardise far-sigthedness, or they thought there were Mexicans inside.

  • @brucefluth3930
    @brucefluth3930 Před 2 lety +6

    “...I don’t know what this lever is for, but it looks important!” 😂🤣

  • @Spartaner627
    @Spartaner627 Před 2 lety +1

    i dont know why i enjoy seeing the chieftain crawling through these man made steel boxes so much. but i do. thanks for the upload.

  • @falanglao01
    @falanglao01 Před 2 lety +11

    Watching the end, struggling to get out is hilarious. The hardships youre going through are much appreciated ;-)

  • @llokkee
    @llokkee Před 2 lety +2

    You've improved over the years with ur inside episodes Chief
    more info
    more sophisticated
    Great job mate 👍

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket Před 2 lety +3

    I like you - you seem to have an open mind on things/not a big ego.
    Thank you for NOT putting background music in your videos.

  • @luciusvorenus9445
    @luciusvorenus9445 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks, Chieftain! Prototype vehicles and testbed are interesting for the features they do have and of course, what they don't.

  • @scraggy983
    @scraggy983 Před 2 lety +42

    You are wrong on the loading drills, if firing HESH, then the next round is automatically loaded UNLESS the commander orders, "Stop" or "Stop Loading"
    If fifing Fin Sabot or DST, the loader must wait fore a confirmatory" Fire" order UNLESS the commander had ordered keep loading until the commander orders "Stop" or Stop loading"
    Also, the link temperature compensator bar simmply keeps the link bar at a st temperature, the value of which I've long forgotten.

    • @TheChieftainsHatch
      @TheChieftainsHatch  Před 2 lety +42

      Fair. Now I'm pulling it up, I hadn't noticed that the instruction in the manual to not automatically reload was in the sub-section for APFSDS engagement and not under general procedure.

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 Před 2 lety +2

      Seems like a good way to get your loader messed up having two opposite drills.

    • @scraggy983
      @scraggy983 Před 2 lety +21

      @@ScottKenny1978 Not really, we only use two types operationally. The root of it is that the APDS is inherently less accurate than HESH,. The system was, to use a three round technique for APDS because you could rarely see the fall of shot, so after the firing obscuration had subsided the commander could then decide if another (of the fewer carried) pointy things needed to be loaded, iff, after three rounds the target failed to blow up/die then you switched to HESH.

    • @johnboy651
      @johnboy651 Před 2 lety +1

      @@scraggy983 APDS is inherently less accurate than HESH, are you sure you have that the right way.I always though apds was straight to the target and hesh was lobbed

    • @CobraDBlade
      @CobraDBlade Před 2 lety +19

      @@johnboy651 the APDS was less accurate than the HESH because of the barrel rifling. The APDS round normally is self stabilizing, but the rifling throws it out of whack, whereas the HESH round was meant to be fired from a rifled gun so it is more accurate. The Brits liked their HESH from what I've heard so that is why they went that route while others were going smoothbore.

  • @kuhaku9587
    @kuhaku9587 Před 2 lety

    Back from a night shift tired as hell, stressed so here goes happy time in the hand and I see a chieftain video. Way to put me to sleep with a smile!

  • @Kosmos6171
    @Kosmos6171 Před 2 lety +5

    17:50 Now we know how the scariest button in the tank looks like...

  • @rollandchapin5308
    @rollandchapin5308 Před rokem

    I have grown to enjoy your humor. GJ , As a Canadian ex- Infanteer . I have Cmdr several differant types of IFV's I pensioned off in 1994. A couple of tours later. Blah , blah Absolutely appreciate your method of operation. Good luck best wishes.

  • @michaelguerin56
    @michaelguerin56 Před 2 lety +2

    That drag/crawl out of the driver’s position looked to be slightly less fun than crawling around underneath a house whilst repiling and slightly more fun than crawling around in a relatively low pitch roof space; with the caveat that at least it was probably a bit cleaner! 🙂

  • @simongleed
    @simongleed Před 2 lety +2

    Fantastic and very educational not much difference to my Chieftain MK10 that we are restoring and nearly finished.

  • @kippamip
    @kippamip Před 2 lety +6

    Just one observation@ 22:10, you don't need to operate the breech handle to close the breech during loading. you close the breech guard and it closes once the guard is made.

    • @TheChieftainsHatch
      @TheChieftainsHatch  Před 2 lety +6

      That seems to make sense to me, but in the manual I have (dated Jun 83), close the breech is a separate step conducted before pulling the firing guard to the rear.

    • @kippamip
      @kippamip Před 2 lety +4

      @@TheChieftainsHatch in that scenario I'm guessing it's first round in the breech and just making ready to fire, in which case you would not be making the guard to actually fire. In that scenario then yes the book would be right and you would pull the breech closing handle. 👍🏼

    • @razorcola9833
      @razorcola9833 Před 2 lety +3

      On the L30 gun but not on the L11.

    • @kippamip
      @kippamip Před 2 lety +3

      @@razorcola9833 makes sense this being a prototype that it has the L11 as that is what chieftain was running at the time.
      In that case what the Chieftain has said from the book is most likely correct. I never loaded the L11 only the L30. 👍🏼

    • @expatingermany7685
      @expatingermany7685 Před 2 lety +1

      The L11 had to be closed via its handle after the bag charge went in. Load, pull , next projectile , guard, safety switch..... Call "loaded".

  • @karlsnow5281
    @karlsnow5281 Před 2 lety +1

    "..looks important.."
    I love this guy

  • @stuartbennett7614
    @stuartbennett7614 Před 2 lety +4

    Bv is of vital importance in any ifv a morale booster in a balkan winter or a desert night

    • @colbeausabre8842
      @colbeausabre8842 Před 2 lety +1

      Stuart Bennett Even better is a working heater. In my 25 years in the US Army, I never encountered a working one and replacements were permanently on back order

  • @tankdriver65861
    @tankdriver65861 Před 2 lety +6

    I’ve had a try on the challenger 2 simulator, on two different occasions, and they both felt weird, the first time was before playing steel beasts, the second time after playing it for a while. My gunnery was crap both times, and I found it very hard to adjust to the sensitivity of the thumb switch/pad/ stick. They said it was easier to control in the vehicle than the simulator

    • @qwerty123il
      @qwerty123il Před 2 lety +3

      I assume that experience was available because you’re in the in the military or know the right people 😂?
      I’d love to have a go in one but found nothing in google 😔

    • @tankdriver65861
      @tankdriver65861 Před 2 lety +6

      @@qwerty123il just know the right people mate, even then it’s hard for them to find time or even be able to accommodate

    • @qwerty123il
      @qwerty123il Před 2 lety +3

      @@tankdriver65861 yeah I get it entirely. I know I have access to a few things a lot of people would dream to do as well it’s just not a tank simulator 😂 we all have to make the most of what we have👌enjoy it!

    • @richardvernon317
      @richardvernon317 Před 2 lety

      @@tankdriver65861 Was that at Donnington???

  • @CaptainSeato
    @CaptainSeato Před 2 lety +4

    36:23 - Ah, rare view of a Chieftain's vulnerable belly :v

  • @PeterNissen878112
    @PeterNissen878112 Před 2 lety

    This entire Part 2 episode has left me feeling claustrophobic!

  • @thurin84
    @thurin84 Před 2 lety +1

    36:22 and here were rare witnesses to another chieftain being born into the world! congratulations challenger! its a boy!

  • @cynicalfox190
    @cynicalfox190 Před 2 lety +2

    Well I caught this a little late but I’ll be back to rewatch from the start soon I think

  • @biker6991
    @biker6991 Před 2 lety +2

    trigger is squeezed on the OW of NOW

  • @robertnemeth6248
    @robertnemeth6248 Před 2 lety

    Great tour. There are some people out there that think the driver's periscope is actually some sort of window and thus a weak spot - see Red Effect videos. Your tour demonstrates that the tank has a periscope and not a window....

  • @anotherzingbo
    @anotherzingbo Před 2 lety

    The entire bit with you in the driver's seat had my skin crawling. I think I don't like confined spaces!

  • @skogga
    @skogga Před 2 lety

    Brought back memories of cave exploring when I was younger and lighter!

  • @shorttimer874
    @shorttimer874 Před 2 lety +10

    Say what you will about the problems with the M114, but fully loaded including all crew gear every position had a lot of space, and even with a full 3 man crew, which was rare, there was enough room while underway for one of them to stretch-out and sleep inside the hull.
    I'm 6'2" and when buttoned up never had any problems hitting my head on anything while sitting up.

  • @deezynar
    @deezynar Před 2 lety +6

    I have watched several videos of the inside of various tanks, and I am shocked by all of them that the interiors are filled with hard, pointy, items that could hurt the crew who are being thrown around inside like rocks in a can.

    • @Dedfaction
      @Dedfaction Před 2 lety

      You've got to spill a little blood to keep the tank happy somehow.

    • @razor1uk610
      @razor1uk610 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Dedfaction ...queue deriggur "Blood for the -Blood God- Turret Monster!" audio line

    • @theancientartofmodernwarfa1850
      @theancientartofmodernwarfa1850 Před 2 lety +5

      I explain to people that everything in the tank is trying to kill you all the time. If you remember that you will be fine.

    • @deezynar
      @deezynar Před 2 lety +2

      @@theancientartofmodernwarfa1850
      Attitudes like yours, if allowed to exist in all areas of life, would kill all advancements. We'd have no science or technology. You are an adherent to the mantra, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it," but that's an idea that stifles improvement.
      If I designed a tank interior that was superior to its competitors, all other things being equal, my tank would defeat them because my crew would be more efficient. They'd be able to focus more on tracking the enemy, and getting their individual tasks done rather than trying to survive the hazards inside their own vehicle.

    • @theancientartofmodernwarfa1850
      @theancientartofmodernwarfa1850 Před 2 lety +3

      @@deezynar Ah, you haven't been a tanker then. We appreciate that our steel beasts are out to get us. Keeps up the adrenaline rush. And they continue to do so with each improvement made to them. They just find new ways to try to kill us. Kind of like other personal relationships.

  • @bigpakahobnobs101
    @bigpakahobnobs101 Před 2 lety

    love the Asbestos at 18:25 surely nothing can go wrong !

  • @mikewinston8709
    @mikewinston8709 Před 5 měsíci

    Amusing to hear them described as old. I recall loading them at Marchwood for the BAOR when brand new. No matter….😂

  • @ritchie799
    @ritchie799 Před 2 lety

    Again, a brilliantly informative video.
    Hat doffed to you.

  • @ivoferin8176
    @ivoferin8176 Před 9 měsíci

    Fascinating

  • @melangellatc1718
    @melangellatc1718 Před 2 lety +8

    As a Desert Storm M1A1 tank company/team commander, the fire control system in the thing seems horribly complicated...

    • @Masada1911
      @Masada1911 Před 2 lety +4

      The whole inside of the tank looks very busy and crowded to me

    • @expatingermany7685
      @expatingermany7685 Před 2 lety +7

      It wasn't complicated because it was all we had and it was all we had to learn. IFCS is more simple than you would expect. From finding a target to killing it took about 5-6 seconds. Ammo was preselected, weather parameters were programmed in before firing, laser range didn't matter when using full systems, lase, Auto lay, Check the target was in the ellipse and fire. We learned all types of system failure all the way down to looking down the barrel. We also fired using the clinometer upto 9000m using HESH for area bombardments ( Canada Sommer 1987 )..... All trained in a 6 week course.

  • @williamlloyd3769
    @williamlloyd3769 Před 2 lety +8

    What a complicated beast. Wonder what the part count is related to the logistics of supporting this tank?

  • @kellymouton7242
    @kellymouton7242 Před 2 lety +1

    Plot twist: Chiefland filmed the end first, and is STILL crawling out of that drivers hole.

  • @jameswhymark4507
    @jameswhymark4507 Před 2 lety

    Excellent videos!!! Please keep them coming 🙏

  •  Před 2 lety

    VEry interesting tour

  • @petesheppard1709
    @petesheppard1709 Před 2 lety

    Claustrophobic creepies begin at 36:00...😰 Good tour, thanks!

  • @biker6991
    @biker6991 Před 2 lety +1

    Double H gear selector Bottom left low reverse..top left high reverse...center top 1.. centre bottom 1-2.. right top 1-3.. right bottom 3-4.

  • @dposcuro
    @dposcuro Před 2 lety +1

    That final laugh translated: "The shit I get myself into!"

  • @nonpartisangunowner4524
    @nonpartisangunowner4524 Před 2 lety +1

    36:00 OMG, the tank is on fire!

  • @biker6991
    @biker6991 Před 2 lety +1

    the RED handle on the rear of the drivers back rest...LOWERS it FLAT for evacuation...

  • @keithplymale2374
    @keithplymale2374 Před 2 lety

    I saw Challenger I when I was in the UK in 1999. The driver was always the shortest and smallest member of the crew.

  • @biker6991
    @biker6991 Před 2 lety

    the OMC links the hull batteries to the turret batteries...behind the commander the big grey box is the meterdine power module

  • @occamraiser
    @occamraiser Před rokem

    Wow! I haven't heard the word 'Canister' used in conjunction with cannons since Waterloo. I didn't know it was still 'a thing'.

  • @MisteriosGloriosos922
    @MisteriosGloriosos922 Před 2 lety

    It's easy to enjoy!!!

  • @sadwingsraging3044
    @sadwingsraging3044 Před 2 lety

    Thanks Chief!

  • @user-gw2nz1xd6k
    @user-gw2nz1xd6k Před 2 lety

    Grrrrrreat thnx for this series of videos, it was especially interesting) again, it's a pity there was no "the Tank is on fire", but, nonetheless, very interesting.

  • @colbeausabre8842
    @colbeausabre8842 Před 2 lety +2

    "Not sure what thins handle does" BANG! Ejection seat fires

  • @comentedonakeyboard
    @comentedonakeyboard Před 2 lety +7

    And this is how the Mysterie of the important looking Lever started.

    • @danghostman2814
      @danghostman2814 Před 2 lety +4

      "This is an emergency lever. It does emergency things. Pull when necessary. "
      ~Challenger Owner's Manual

    • @comentedonakeyboard
      @comentedonakeyboard Před 2 lety +1

      @@danghostman2814And i almost thought it was there to keep the comander ocupied (if he got bored). Some sort of Hand Idler.

  • @pennycarvalho1223
    @pennycarvalho1223 Před 2 lety +1

    If only you could check the ikv103 interior, it’s a vehicle that doesn’t have any interior photos as I am sure of

  • @ThePsiclone
    @ThePsiclone Před 2 lety +9

    Do you ever have nightmares about getting into one of these things and being unable to get out? Just curious.

    • @robjmck
      @robjmck Před 2 lety +1

      My brother was 6 feet 4 inches and served in all positions, prefering the drivers position no less as sleeping was easy. I shall ask him how he got on in the other positions when I next see him!

    • @colbeausabre8842
      @colbeausabre8842 Před 2 lety +2

      ThePsiclose. Why do you think you have a pistol

  • @dennisvandermarkt8263
    @dennisvandermarkt8263 Před 2 lety

    Made my day sir

  • @asraarradon4115
    @asraarradon4115 Před rokem +1

    That driver seat made me feel claustrophobic just watching.

  • @mbak7801
    @mbak7801 Před 2 lety +2

    One day in my unit we were due to have an inspection of our vehicles and I was given a brush and a giant tin of NATO green paint. I asked what should I paint and was told "Everything". So I did. Hinges, handles, anything that was supposed to open or move was painted. I went over the top of mud and welded the doors shut by painting the rubbers. Even the locks got a lot of attention. It looked disgusting close up but fine from about 25 feet. The experienced inspecting officer walked 30 feet away and did the usual series of comments "very good" etc. After it was all over I kept well away from the vehicles as there was lots of swearing coming from those who were supposed to maintain them as they discovered everything was seized. Oh dear what a pity......

  • @danndank
    @danndank Před 2 lety +1

    Speleology with The Chieftain.

  • @JohnRodriguesPhotographer

    Great vids!!!

  • @pattygman4675
    @pattygman4675 Před 2 lety +1

    Of course the Brit’s can’t go anywhere without their tea.

  • @ponchoremerize5508
    @ponchoremerize5508 Před 2 lety

    After seeing this I like the U.S. & Eastern tanks for various reasons.

  • @doubleducks814
    @doubleducks814 Před 2 lety +3

    They can cook bacon but not fish and chips. Are you sure it's a British tank?

  • @thomasbernecky2078
    @thomasbernecky2078 Před 2 lety +1

    Last return sounds ominous? and no teapot? oh, I guess the BV is for that and the Full English breakfast?

    • @TheChieftainsHatch
      @TheChieftainsHatch  Před 2 lety +1

      I cover first and last return in my switchology videos on the M1 and M60, if I recall correctly.

  • @AsbestosMuffins
    @AsbestosMuffins Před rokem

    I feel like Emergency Button Mk2 would involve adding a little cover around it so you couldn't stick your finger past the button

  • @MrHermit12
    @MrHermit12 Před 2 lety

    I like the ones without music the best.

  • @HunterTeddy010
    @HunterTeddy010 Před 2 lety

    The paint, you warned us but... holy no. It's spackled into the viewports and lights.

  • @Jermster_91
    @Jermster_91 Před 2 lety +2

    The Challenger would lose in the "Oh my God, The Tank is on Fire".

  • @indigohammer5732
    @indigohammer5732 Před 2 lety +1

    Shocking amount of rust

  • @pex_the_unalivedrunk6785

    At 18:24 that has got to be scary as hell...
    You'll be fine, just don't twitch!

  • @garyneilson1833
    @garyneilson1833 Před 2 lety +3

    Good video, are you going a special on the correct way to use a BV sometime ?

    • @ulissedazante5748
      @ulissedazante5748 Před 2 lety

      Stephan from Sweden Arsenalen museum did a "cook in a tank" video. I've seen a "how to make tea in a tank" from Tank Museum (who else)
      Could be interesting a "cooking with Chieftain" - food and tank.

  • @biker6991
    @biker6991 Před 2 lety

    Muzzle Reference System Sight has to have the graticule UNLOCKED to MRS...there is a switch low left of the gunners left knee to turn on the light source

  • @biker6991
    @biker6991 Před 2 lety

    32 fin...16 HESH, 4 SMOKE and 2 SHOT were carried when i was in Berlin

  • @venator5
    @venator5 Před 2 lety +1

    28:50 I think you could open the hatch if you unlock the level, There is that red locking knob just above the level which you could turn away.

    • @TheChieftainsHatch
      @TheChieftainsHatch  Před 2 lety +2

      If you mean the lock on the left side, it didn't make a difference.

    • @paulrisk1988
      @paulrisk1988 Před 2 lety

      The drivers hatch was always stiff to raise and some mud did sometimes jam it but some upwards pressure on the hatch while operating the handle worked most times. but with the amount of paint on that tank even more that what is normally on a British tank, it probably wouldn't work this time.
      The commanders hatch could be opened from outside by jumping on it the locking handles were on springs and would pop out sometimes if you jumped on the hatch just right.

    • @venator5
      @venator5 Před 2 lety

      @@paulrisk1988 Sound like you were served on those tanks. What is you general opinion for this particular tank, or do you have experience with other tanks as well?

    • @SteamCrane
      @SteamCrane Před 2 lety

      @@paulrisk1988 I assume most insurgents knew this?

  • @matthew09ify
    @matthew09ify Před 9 měsíci

    Do a video on the challenger 2 that would be good

  • @tasman006
    @tasman006 Před 2 lety +6

    And you forgot the Challenger 1 combat record of killing 300 Iraqi tanks during the first gulf war.

  • @MrAktilos
    @MrAktilos Před 2 lety +2

    A little random but you you mentioned you liked flight sims when talking about the TC gun controller. What do you play if one may ask? DCS, MSFS, Xplane, Falcon BMS or a older classic?

  • @cpt_nordbart
    @cpt_nordbart Před 2 lety

    In regards to thumb stick usage. I've seen a picture of a fps character with a stick mounted to the back of his head as example how it works. Push it forward the head looks down. Pull back and he looks up. Legions of gamers have learned to use thumb sticks like that.

    • @qwerty123il
      @qwerty123il Před 2 lety

      Im an inverted player and I can’t stand it not being inverted it does make more sense in my mind as well, using that analogy. The thing with that analogy that I’ve always struggled to answer is what about left and right, if it’s fixed to the head if you pushed left the head would go right like bicycle handlebars.
      On that, I got to go in an airliner type flight simulator and I couldn’t get my head around the pedals for yaw/nose wheel steering. Touched down and weaved wildly back and forward down the runway because I assumed the pedals would be like bike handlebars but pushing the left pedal made the plane go left… my brain just couldn’t compute that 😂

  • @adamc1272
    @adamc1272 Před 2 lety +1

    Inside every Challenger is a Chieftain in disguise

    • @thewomble1509
      @thewomble1509 Před 2 lety

      Basically, yes. The turret systems, gun and layout was essentially the same as a late model Chieftain.

  • @krisluedke9557
    @krisluedke9557 Před 2 lety

    35:13 The turret clock is so you know when it's tea time.

  • @biker6991
    @biker6991 Před 2 lety

    NO that link bar is for the commanders sight main gun alignment for the contra-rotation system

    • @TheChieftainsHatch
      @TheChieftainsHatch  Před 2 lety

      The one at the very end?

    • @biker6991
      @biker6991 Před 2 lety

      @@TheChieftainsHatch it goes to the commanders cupola and operates the mirror for his "view" of the gun symbiology

  • @andrewtibbetts2695
    @andrewtibbetts2695 Před 2 lety +4

    Quick question: Is the Fort Benning Museum open again for viewing or are they still moving vehicles in?

    • @colbeausabre8842
      @colbeausabre8842 Před 2 lety

      Andrew Tibbetts. The museum is part of the Armor School, is used for instruction and is PERMANENTLY closed to civilians. Even retirees like me

    • @robertcogan7109
      @robertcogan7109 Před 2 lety +4

      We're still moving vehicles in (another shipment of 20 is due in the next month). We won't be open throughout the usual week for civilians due to the training requirements but we will have weekend events where the public will be able to come visit. Once we get things in place we'll announce dates for those open houses.

  • @biker6991
    @biker6991 Před 2 lety

    the fixed handle is called the thumb controller

  • @scorp4463
    @scorp4463 Před 2 lety

    🤣🤣Did make me smirk this part..... ''Also some of the most important controls in the tank, the boiling vessel power''..... For Tea and a bacon Sarnie (Sandwich). British Forces Staple essentials!! . 😆😂😆😂😆

  • @calvingreene90
    @calvingreene90 Před 2 lety +2

    How do you know the barrel has cleared the terrain?
    The driver has hit the brakes.