Why are some cats FERAL?
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- čas přidán 29. 07. 2024
- Why are some cats friendly, but other cats are feral? In this video, I talk about how socialization works -- and why we should accept feral cats for who they are!
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This video made me realize that I might be a feral human
Me too.
And we will stay that way unless or until we require a human to feed us
Same. I think I’m a feral cat trapped inside a human body.
Lmao same
howardfrankfort It’s About Darn Time!
Trapping and spaying a feral cat is probably like being adducted by aliens.
Except it's for real. Wait a second... Are those abduction real and they're actually spay or neuter human?
@@xdragon2k mind blown
@@xdragon2k Naw more like they milk us of our sperm and surgically remove eggs from females. Along with implanting people with various devices.
@@fernandomorales4691 tag and release?
@@xdragon2k Got abducted by aliens, came back and balls were gone
I’ve never heard someone speak so respectfully about feral cats tbh. I’ve always felt bad about cats who are feral because they’re not in a house, but I see how important it is to keep them in their habitat. I just wish more people were aware how spading/neutering cats is not a bad thing too....
Totally agree with you
No.... they need to be fixed. Specially feral wild cats. They are decimating entire species in Australia and other countries. There are far too many and we have to help them so they don't get culled.
@@eshnanawadia5564 they need to be fixed
@@aliciamadrid8524 reread the sentence, they used a double negative :]
True. This video really give me a new perspective
"Behaviour tends to be avoidant instead of aggressive and they will actively avoid humans. They aren't mean, they're just unsocialized."
I feel oddly targeted right now..
Except where there might be food offered tho 🤣. Even at that l might me skiddish.
meganpitt 🤣🤣🤣
oh duck, that feels like anxiety.
Introverts are quaking...
@@acehasaface948 oh yes, me lol! XD
The cat who asked to be pet then hissed like he was disgusted with himself 🤣🤣🤣
He/she didn't ask to be pet. He/she was simply marking their scent.
It didn't ask to be petted, just rubbed against a human. That's how they scent mark their territory. "This is MY food source!"
This is a very normal cat behavior, he could mark his territory, he could be making a good impression on the human to get more food or he could really wanted to be pet but had some painful injury she touched. We had a cat like this, he liked people but hated to be touched, and later vet found out he had ear infection for years and he was in pain.
Or she could just be afraid of hands.
He/she is like goddamn im ashamed the clan didnt teach me this
Humans should understand that not everything wants to be your friend, stop watching disney sheesh
This does not only apply to animals but other people as well. :) Mind if I borrow this quote you have made? I know a few people who need to hear/see this.
When your say humans you say it like your not a human...
Loool
But but I thought my legos liked me :(
Why do you have to bring Disney into it? Didn't you ever watch Bambi? Humans shot Bambi's mom. Not exactly in line with your stereotype.
When she dragged the kitten with the spatula across the floor I lost it xD
It was the only way to get the kitten. The feral mother would of bit her.
Same🤣🤣
They make sturdy leather gauntlets for rose gardening. Just a thought.
We found a young feral kitten when I was a small child, poor thing was in a wood pile, hungry and lonely. We kept him, he became an extremely sociable cat. He lived to be 18.
@@djdbsk The implication is that a "feral kitten" is one that is born to a feral mother, not in a home and has no owner...
Taming a feral kitten is much different than taming a feral cat. Kittens will become feral by around 5 weeks, but you still have until about 12 weeks when they are still open to socialization and can be tamed with just a little bit of work within a week or so.
There can be feral kittens because it's a scale and it depends on the age. Find them at 3 weeks, maybe 4 weeks, they can be 100% socialized, but I was given a kitten found on the streets about 5 weeks old and she never lost some of her wildness or her fear. She bit and scratched. She also purred, she slept with us. She was sweet and she was a great cat, but she was also a biter and scratcher if you got her at the wrong moment and that behavior never left her.
At that 5 weeks, or even later, they can adapt to living indoors, they're not really feral, but get to them too late and they make keep some of the feral wildness their whole lives. The born outdoor cats that I took inside were all biters, out of fear and reaction. The born indoor cats - none of them were biters. The born outdoor cats also had a tendency to overeat, perhaps because they'd experienced hunger, the born indoor cats were all picky eaters and didn't get fat. They start learning behavior at a very young age.
@@GMW.artist exactly
@@imnotmike yes, he became very social only because he was such a little guy when we found him. He still wasn’t the usual house cat, but he was a good cat. Never trashed the house or ruined curtains!
"oh, what's this. someone left their pile of crack on the Road"
LMAOOOO
😭😂💀💀💀
Lmao
"I don't do cocaine. I just like the way it smells."
🤣🤣🤣
Omg that cat with the catnip was such a cute clip 😹😻
That was a cat getting high 🤣
*Wasted*
r/emojipolice but it's double
I have fed a feral male cat outside of my house for five years, trying for two to trap him and finally succeeding! He was the hissiest, nastiest cat around and truly scary, but I loved him anyway. Now, after being neutered and having his hormones calmed down, he is all about having his belly scratched and waits for me to feed him every morning and night. In the morning, he walks with me on my mile long walk, just like a dog, except without a leash. It is the cutest thing ever. I can even put flea medicine on his back and he doesn't mind.
God bless you
Thank you
Omg u are sooo frickin lucky with such a kind cat 😭😭😭 mine scratched me lol
Deborah, while there is cats in animal shelters who get put down b/c there is not enough people who want them and you want to focus on a feral cat who you could've just TNR would've been less traumatizing for the poor feral cat
@@belmum1689 she didn't force the cat indoors, the cat still lives outside. No "home is being wasted." She trapped him to get him neutered, then returned the cat to his outdoor home. He simply got used to her and began to like her. The only traumatic thing this cat endured was the catch and neuter but that was for the good of him and the potential kittens that could've been born.
That black feral cat with the catnip. I found that just sooo adorable.❤🐈
“Mother why can’t I be with the big hairless friend”
"Because Jimbob, the big, hairless one's never fed me when I was your age!"
HisRoyalFatness hahahaha jimbob is sucha good name
Sam Dragonborn and then the mom’s gonna say “when i was your age, those big hairless creature never fed me anything!”
This honestly made me feel better about some of the cats around my neighborhood.
I always have that instinct to bring them inside from the cold, but they seem to manage just fine and fend for themselves.
Hi Creative Carrah, Well, the Cold is really Cold. If you have a few ferals that you feed, when winter comes you can build a shelter out of thick foam insulation, and run a heating element into it to keep the place warm. To keep down heat loss with an open door, you can build it with a few right hand turns going back into the the actual warm nook... a kind of warm Cat Cave. I built one once, and the ferrals liked it so much it turned into their preferred maternity ward.
Scott. You and Hannah (Kitten Lady) should work together.
Hi Nuno, I can't think of a greater compliment than to be mentioned in the same sentence as Hannah the Kitten Lady, but she's a full time around the clock Feline Volunteer. I just did some part time stuff... sort of being a Cat Volunteer as a hobby. But, yes, Hannah is the Real Deal. Caroline the Kitten School lady is much to be admired also.
Creative Carrah I am the same way! I see them and I just want to save them. But not all outdoor cats need to be saved!
You can always make some outdoor winter shelters or provide some food or treats for them if you'd like to help
Feral cat: "who left this big pile of crack out here!?"
*DRUG DETAILING INTENSIFIES*
It meant...the cat did a big poo outside.
Some cats poo white colour.
Lol
I’m sure the cat didn’t give a crap, one time I found weed on the street and I didn’t question it. but I didn’t want to expose the children to it so I took it home and burned it.
I'm really impressed. Cat Lady is really thoughtful and articulate about the welfare of cats, whether feral or tame. Go Cat Lady!
Feral cats r gangsta cats, not your toy
Pickle Beaker! i understand what u mean!!!
they will Fight You, no problem
They honestly are I found a feral kitten and he had a problem with sharing food he would slap the other kittens 😂
Maeve McGee yeah, i have 2 like that, but 1 is REEEEEEALLY bad!!! but then i have 2 that are sweethearts, but i would NEVER bring them inside...just 'cuz they need their "space", & i respect that.
Gayla Roof same here I have a little colony of kittens that live in my backyard and i let them do their own thing I just like knowing that they have food and clean water
Omg I died when she pulled the kitten away with the spatula. 😂😂😂😂 it just slid across the floor. 😂😂😂
Edit: OMG THANK YOU SO MUCH! Way to many likes!
That's why they're all named after cookout foods. Hehehehe. :)
Bahaha!! That was hilarious.
oh good lord
That was hilarious!!
Why didn’t the mama run after?
There are also some cats who love humans, think they're human and dislike other cats with a passion.
I think my cat is one
That used to be a cat that lives near my house, always accepting other humans touch and always hissing at other cats
I remember several years ago when my late grandmother had to move to a different care home that didn’t allow animals (bastards). So her only remaining cat had to be taken away. Now this cat (Smudge) was practically feral, as the only human interaction she had was my late grandparents. My family took her as she would have been put down. After we got her she lived in our basement for several months until she got lonely and accepted us. Years later she sleeps in my bed at night some nights and has really bonded with a lot of people (she is still spooked really easily). And a fun but sad fact is that after my grandmother died, we inherited her old dining table. Her old cat Smudge now likes to sit up on that very table. I think she remembers.
So yea that’s my “feral” cat story.
We also have a feral cat story : one day in last autumn, a big, bear like tomcat appeared out of nowhere in our garden. At first he was shy and ran away when we tried to approach him, but after aome weeks of feeding, he became more tame, and after a few months he is like a puppy : literally following us anywhere in the house, always, and waggs his tail like a dog when he is happy, chirps at us as a greeting, and he learned the other cats names I swear, because if he hears that we say one, he comes to us ibstantly and tries to separate us. He is like a big teddy bear.
And I am happy that your grandmother's cat was lucky and found a good home with you.
Oh yes i believe youre right
My family TNR'd a colony out of existence in the 90's, and we saw the whole range of socializations. The door was always open for them, but if they didn't want in, we met them where they were. The eldest were very feral, but oddly, one feral mama sort of self-tamed, though I was the only person she permitted to touch her. She lived a spoiled 16 years, sleeping in a cushy bed in our house, being adorable, but keeping her distance. It was amazing to watch, but if we had only focused on her, there would still be a rampant colony out there. Instead, we let her do her own thing, and let the other couple dozen colony cats live out their lives on their own terms, sans reproduction. It was a wonderful thing to be a part of as a kid. Thanks for spreading the word about TNR and ferals!
Mama Llama
I'm in a rural area, so we have cats going through all the time. I have two that are wonderful pets, and anyone else gets trapped and TNR'd. Local colony is now 100% fixed and many adopted out if they choose. I wish Hannah would stop insisting they cannot be socialized. My experience is that roughly half are very open to it and would die otherwise.
Agreed. You only have to look at somewhere like the TinyKittens livestream to see that it's really up to the individual cat. Some are open to socialisation. Ramona and Chloe, two of the feral mums, are open to it and enjoy being pet. Chloe also has kidney problems and likely can't be released. Rula, the other feral mum, is much more scared of humans. She hisses and swipes. They've spayed her and put her with the other ferals in a room where they rarely have to see humans. She also has bad kidney problems. They're going to try to stabilise her kidneys and hopefully release her. She's not stressed in that room, she's always napping or chilling in the sun. But she'd be happier in her colony so they will release her. Grandpa Mason is probably the most famous. He won't let a human touch him but he's chilled out the rest of the time, and loves cuddling with the kittens. He would die if he were released due to his kidney issues.
K S
Yes! Tiny Kittens is extremely informative, and as they admit, 10 years of experience has taught them to look beyond what was the conventional teaching of the day. Hannah is ten years behind in knowledge of ferals, and to see so many of her followers believe her without question is not helping the Grandpa Masons of the world. Love that guy.
Speaking of guys, mine did a screen capture of the current shot of Chlomona and kittens and put it on his phone. Made me smile.
Miss True Seman congrats on being an asshole! 👍
I used to work with shelters, and it was so sad seeing feral community cats brought there. They were always so unhappy, and clearly never going to get adopted. :( I agree with you - TNR is the way to go for older cats.
nerdishh Not necessarily. We adopted a cat who had been brought in as a feral as part of a TNR program. They had to trap him because no one could get near him. Then, suddenly, he began to warm up to the people from the TNR program, and became more friendly, so the gave him to the shelter instead. Once again, he warmed up to the shelter staff quickly, and was placed in a cat room available to the public. That’s where I met him. When I walked in the room, he was on an elevated cat walk, and started immediately looking for a way down. As soon as he was able to find one, he started to interact with me right away as I was sitting in a chair in the room. We took him into one of the one on one rooms, and brought one of our dogs, whom he was understandably wary and cautious of, but not afraid. We adopted him, and he’s a real sweetheart. The shelter staff were kind of sad to see him go, I think, but also happy for him to have a forever home. He was about 2 years old when we adopted him.
The point of my story is, there are some cats who are feral, but then change, sometimes on a dime. I’m not saying that it happens often. I imagine that it’s actually quite rare. However, changes like that can happen.
When I was a kid, my mom fed a bunch of feral cats. The first was named Kitty Kitty, left behind when a neighbor moved. We couldn't take him in because we rented, plus my mom was super allergic. He was so sweet, loved being pet, and liked to sleep in the sun on our porch. When he got older, he somehow ended up with only a few teeth, so we kept wet food for him. My mom eventually found an allergy medicine that worked, so we thought we would try letting Kitty Kitty inside. He sometimes wandered in the open door himself, so we thought he would be happy. NOPE. As soon as the door shut, he went MAD, slashing at the windows, yowling, tearing back and forth... We didn't try it again, and he went back to his happy routine outdoors.
Story about my brother:
He moved out, and found a couple (maybe 3) weeks old kitten on the street. He befriended the little kitten, carried cat food for every time he comes across him and occasionally played with him. After about 3 months of being buddies with the Cat, he managed to move into a shared appartment with me. So he adopted the Cat, now named Yoru.
Yoru now lives happily with us, and my cat, Hiru (adopted her a month after moving in, was 2-3 weeks old).
They're both super cuddly cats, and I'm very happy they're around.
Im happy they have each other. You are a good person.
"Feral cats are just cats that don't want to be around humans." Goddamn, if that ain't a Big Mood idk what is 😂
My cats are all feral & now all tame after feeding & spending time.
I believe all cats as kittens would all be acceptable to human contactie...food,being pet,loved,cuddled.
But because they're born to the outside world with no human contact ...and if it doesn't happen and that's why they become feral.
+EloiseRaeCullen Same, girl! ♥ =^..^= ♥ Great video, Kitten Lady!
@@dianeeharris No, they are predators, you can't change that, with the same logic go get a lion once it was born and tell me the results
Relatable af
The cat in your lap in so CUTE 😍
I feed feral cats in my area and one of the kittens used to come running to me and at about 2 months he got sick and was ready to come home with me. He is our love now and did great with my adults 😊
“cats have their own desires”
we have two cats.
our older male will NOT be kept inside. he’s not feral, he’s very friendly, but if he doesn’t have access to the surrounding area (rural mountains), he’s extremely agitated. he will not be strictly indoors and is firmly in this behavior as a 6 year old (as much as we have tried to revert him).
in contrast, our young female isn’t a big fan of the outside world despite having access to it. she uses a litter box and is happy to stay indoors 24/7. she occasionally goes outside but goes no further than our yard and our neighbors yard, and she’ll follow us outside and then back in (she’s a clingy baby).
they both chose how they want to live and have distinct personalities. they each have their desire and definition of comfort. they both have food, water, vet care, and a warm place to sleep, one just chooses to be outdoors most of the time while the other prefers the indoors.
cats are so independent in a way that many other domestic animals can’t be.
My cat can't go outside without being on a cat leash because our neighbor has a dog that would chase cats and possibly hurt them if he's roaming outside of his fenced area... That dog is known as a cat killer because he ends up hurting cats when they are left unattended outside... My cat hates being outside... She would hide if you try to bring her outside... she wanted to go outside once and when she escaped that one time she ended up hiding under our side porch because she got scared and ever since she's been too scared to go outside... Also since we live in the country we have animals in the woods that could hurt cats... Also I do want her to see snow when there is enough for her to play in so that she could play in it for the first time...
My cat is also like this he is very sweet and cuddly but when we try to bring him inside he gets really scared and starts making a really sad sound. So we just let him be where ever he want. Also thanks for writing this its really inspiring
if she is female she doesnt go around.... if u know something about cats u should know this ... anyway female cats doesnt go away from their home male cats can be gone for weeks and comeback
@@demekdemeek8734 It really just depends on if your cat is fixed. Neutered males are less likely to wander as far, because they aren't in search of a mate. Unspayed females can wander just as far as unneutered males.
Feral momma literally ran for the hills lol. Never seen a cat move so fast.
Queendreamer 8 weeks couldn't have gone any faster 😂
Kitten Lady! There are good points in this, but it's not 100% accurate to everyone, just your area.
Here in Finland we trap and socialize feral cats because the winters are so cold wild cats are often found frozen, starving & dying. Fosters are aware their cats do not like their surroundings, but they give them protection, even though they might not understand that.
Suomi mainittu. But anyway, yeah, this is a good point to make. Best would be if the ferals could be supplied a warm place to stay out of their own free will but in many places that just isn't possible. My grandparents used to have this feral cat that frequented their home for over 20 years and they could give her shelter thanks to their stables, they always left the doors slightly open just so she could get into the hay storage in the attic and brought her food in there, and after a looooot of time she did trust my grandma and I to pet her. But life indoors would have been horrible for her, she was not accustomed to that kind of life even though she did trust us to some degree. But when it's life or death sometimes these cats have to be forced to it unfortunately, because it is better that way than to suffer a slow death by cold and starvation
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Trash King the Mighty Ruler of Garbag
She was referring to the short-sighted people who force socialization onto a feral cat for no reason other than wanting that cat as their companion. Protecting them from the deadly harsh climate is a whole different story. I appreciate your area's efforts to keep the kitties well, but it doesn't really effect Kitten Lady's arguments as this is an entirely different context.
This video was a gift to me and my outside cat Suga. So many people have asked me why I haven't brought her indoors, esp. during the winter. She is 7 years old and lives on and off on my apt. building property. I feed her every day. She is affectionate with me, but when she is done eating, she doesn't hang around for long. But she does recognize me and seems happy to see me. Or my food. Well, either way I love her dearly and have been confused as to whether to try to bring her inside. Thanks for helping me to decide. By the way, she has been fixed.
Pls keep her safe and bring her inside.
She def will adapt and it won't take anywhere near 2 yrs. Just don't push her.
@@chainamarie03 What about the other cats in a shelter being put down? The ones already, ready to cuddle you and sit on your lap? I understand if it's a fedal kitten but it's not. It's a 7 year old cat adapted to the outside
You always say what needs to be said, Thank you! So many new rescue groups popping up all over with good intentions but ultimately fail because of their human agenda to take every cat off the streets. I'm sharing this video with all of our volunteers! Thank you! Thank you!
Feral cat Coordinator
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There was a ferel cat in my building gave birth .....whenever i used to feed the cat it used to always hiss at me....slowly slowly by feeding her everyday she realised i was not a threat now the cat follows me...
Some feral cars can be become tame, great house cats.
@@aprillewis1940 i'd love to see feral cars. :)
@@hippegast12 It's just very hard to catch them. lol
@@aprillewis1940 jeah they can reach 200kmph
It's very hard to tame feral cats. I have tamed a few myself. But, while we are trying to tame them, we are traumatizing them. While we are doing this, it is not very good for the cats. But, when we successfully tame them, it is quite good because now, they have someone they can trust. I was once scared of cats, but I still liked them (This was a long time ago). One day, I was going back home and I saw a cat who used to be very weak growing and becoming strong. My mother was also with me. She pet this cat and I did as well. This was the first cat I ever befriended. I had my eye on another cat. I tried showing her that I'm not a threat, but she was feral. She didn't like me. She didn't hiss when I was approaching her. She just ran. She didn't want to hurt me at all. Whenever I tried petting her, she didn't scratch, nor hiss, nor bite. She simply just tried to shake my hand off. This was very sweet. I tried befriending her for about three days. And on the 3rd day, I actually managed to pet her. The next time I tried petting her, I was back to square one. She was scared of me :( I again managed to pet her that one day. The next day, I could without any difficulty. She finally trusted me permanently! Now, she runs at me whenever she sees me!
Cats domesticated themselves, and they have always been the only animal to chose their own lifestyle. Respect the cat!
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Not to be “that” person but my cat was semi-feral, however probably not fully. He used to live on my porch and let me pet him (eventually). I would never have taken him in, only he showed up one day with a severe abscess probably from a raccoon bite. I had to trap him and take him to the vet, where they neutered him, clipped his ear and quarantined him for rabies. Once he was out it was full on winter and he hadn’t had a chance to grow out his winter coat. I live on the East Coast where we have real winters. At that point I had to put him in my basement to heal and wait out the winter. I had every intention of releasing him after winter but long story short: fast forward 5 years, he’s now an indoor lap cat. But like I said he was originally a cat that approached us and showed signs of wanting a relationship with humans, most likely not fully feral. He might have even had a family in his younger years we don’t know for sure.
God Lord this is long
Totally one of the exceptions, doing right by your kitty!
@@russiacat3263 There there now, reading is too much for you. Just watch the beautiful video.
Interesting story. Thanks for sharing.
Poor baby, at least he's in good hands now ^^
Now this is what I call an educational video. In less than 20 minutes, this lady has brought a whole new world to my understanding regarding cats.
On the flip side do not put an indoor cat outside, I live on a farm and people drop off their cats all the time it’s so sad!
Animal abusers
Exactly, because some cats are completely indoor cats and don't know how to live outside at all. It's so sad that people's cats will have babies and the people don't want the babies (they never got their cat spayed) and then they just dump the cat and babies outside somewhere to die.
It is honestly more humane to have a cat that is strictly a house cat put down than to dump it outside. That way at least they just close their eyes and never wake up. Dumped, unless someone sees them right away and rescues them they have a slow miserable death or get eaten. If a kitten is not raised by a smart momma barn cat they aren't going to grow up to be a cat. Even an indoor/outdoor city cat is not going to make it dumped in the country unless they are really lucky and make it to the house and are let in and kept there before a coyote or possibly something bigger eats them.
Your videos are not only interesting, they are extremely informative I have three gorgeous little ones that I’ve been raising and your videos have definitely helped guide me through it 😊
Thank you for raising the little ones! You're awesome!
She is sooo right about feral cats being happier in the wild. I have seen people try to get one too late and make it as house cat. Never works..She does so much good for educating people with her video's..++++
Yes 100 percent
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i just love how the feral cat at 8:35 just launches like a rocket after noticing she has just been set free :3
A cat who is raised Feral will always have those quality's and they shouldn't be forced into a home unless they want to.
A pregnant cat with a healed broken leg who we named Miss Kitty started living in a sewer outside our house. We've always had cats who we're able to go outside, so we always left food out And she gradually warmed up to us and actually entered our home a couple of weeks before she went into labor (we didn't force her inside ). We fed her and helped her with her litter and she became part of our family.
However. She was still a Feral Cat. For Example sometimes when she happened to be inside she would get scared and suddenly attack us (our feet being the most common thing to freak her out if she happened to be laying on the kitchen floor). Its to be expected.
I think the only reason to accept a Feral Cat into your home is when they make an effort to come into your house, and even then you should never force them to live there. This is a very educational video good job!!
RennAztur my feral that I fed finally came inside and is friendly, she gave birth tonight 60 days after she came to my home. They will all be fixed.
Thank you for this video. I took care of a beautiful feral tomcat for two years, feeling terribly guilty that all I could do was feed him, take off ticks and take him to the vet if things got real bad. He learned to be okay with my presence very quickly, let me pet him, purred even, but didn't like to be touched for longer than 3 seconds and would hiss - 15 year old cat who didn't trust people. Then he suddenly disappeared, obviously died and I felt terrible for not doing more for him, like trying to find the guy a home. I now understand that I did all I could, I fed him, I kept his health in check as much as I could, cut off his matted fur when he wasn't trying to maul me and I gave him some love that maybe he didn't really need. He would never be a housecat and was better off on his own. Thank you!
Masha Nechaeva
In my experience people are very much behind on spaying and neutering in Russia and nearby countries. Are you from there? Were you able to neuter him? In the US he'd be neutered and possibly released but possibly euthanized. Thank you for your efforts.
@@SBlackmare Finding this reply a year later, sorry. I took him to the vet when he had injured his paw and asked if he should he neutered, they said "It was too late", not sure what they meant. Maybe that he was old and couldn't handle the anesthesia. But people are really bad about spaying and neutering here, you're right. I've heard things like "My cat won't be a female anymore", "What about the joys of motherhood?, "A cat should give birth at least once". And people buy from breeders instead of adopting the thousands of cats from shelters or off the streets. They would rather buy cats that are disadvantaging existing cats that are looking for a home, creating demand for this. Someone I know said they were looking for a cat that wouldn't hurt their child and was "nice". My first cat was a stray kitten and was pretty mean if I did something she didn't like, and so I learned to live with that. A cat is its own person, you really can't make it anything it's not. She wasn't a cuddle bug, she was an independent to nonsense-kitty. Lived to be around 17, lived through a stroke and a heart attack.
Thanks for this. Older feral cats can sometimes be socialized, but often the process stops short of learning to be cuddly. I have three formerly feral cats who love interacting with me but do not want to be held. A few of the 20 or so feral cats in my neighborhood will allow my physical contact, but most will not. It's wise not to press the issue.
8:35
That cat was like "later suckers!" in a very pissed off tone
I LOVE why your channel is educational yet so fun to watch! Thanks for making great videos 👍🏻
Edit: OMG 115 likes?!?
Thank you for being part of the community!
My grandparents had a complicated situation with a feral cat. Where I live in Canada, ferals often starve or freeze during the winter, especially if they live in sub-rural areas where there's no real shelter beyond under someone's deck or locked up shed. They found a nearly frozen to death feral cat and brought him inside, where he was so cold that he wasn't really moving anymore when they found him. They had him neutered and gave him space but feared releasing him until warmer weather that he would end up dead, and by the time spring rolled around he had warmed up to them enough that he stuck around. I understand your stance on not traumatizing regular, happy feral cats by forcing them into domestication for our own selfish ideas of "rescuing" a cat that's far more happy without us, but I feel like sometimes the line is a little more grey; if the cat is injured, freezing, in serious danger or sick, sometimes they will die without human intervention, and it's hard to boil something like that down to being either TNR or Kidnapping, you know? No disrespect or anything, I appreciate what you do and love learning from your videos.
Porcelain Plants most tnr advocates do not release a cat if it is sick or injured. They will try to find a foster placement until it is health enough to be released.
Agreed. I have been socialising a feral cat for the past 8 months and started because he looked underweight and unwell. I don't force him to do anything or shut him inside - he comes in and out as he pleases. He got an injury from a fight a couple of months ago which became infected and he would have had a long slow painful death had I not used his love of catnip to get him to the vet. He looks very cute but I do warn people who come into my house and garden that he is aggressive and does bite.
Porcelain Plants
This happens more often than you would ever know if you only listen to Kitten Lady. Try TinyKittensHQ for a longer and more nuanced view of feral cats and the ways they can live, both indoors and outdoors.
SBlackmare I'm a big fan of Grandpa Mason on her channel! 😃
Right now there's a feral mom-cat with 6 kittens of approx 4 weeks. I'm fine to leave the cat be but I worry about winter coming. They all live in some woodpiles next to our garage but WHAT WHEN WINTER COMES (it's Canada, it's gonna be extremely cold). The kittens might still become socialized but I fear for the mom. Don't know what to do here.
You are absolutely right! I couldn’t have said this better for you covered every aspect of giving the forever outdoor feral cat what he/she wants in order to be NOT stressed and traumatized. It is TNR and how this has to be drilled into people so we STOP the overpopulation of cats everywhere. It is hard to let them be outdoors since the outdoors is the “unknown” and their lives are cut short because of the “unknown”. But, we have to accept the situation of the cat. Thank you for opening everyone’s eyes in your video. Good education for all.
Hannah, thank you for creating and posting these videos. You’re educating us.
I think a lot of the confusion is that a cat outside =/= a feral cat, especially due to people just leaving their cat outside when they move or decide they don't want it or the number of people who have indoor/outdoor cats. It's just the level of socialization a cat has with humans.
abandoning their kitty when they move is shitty :(
I see so many beat up cats come through my moderately urban yard. One was all bony and wouldn't eat and coughed up a pile of roundworms. I expect he's dead now, he looked so sick. Another has a horrible looking glazed over eye, and a third looks the most healthy but walks in an inchworm sort of way, making me think he may have old injuries. None wear collars, how is a person to know if a random cat has a home? I have too many neighbors to ask personally. I did build a shelter and cat number 3 naps here often, plus I give high quality foodies to him. He's sweet and has never let me near him, and my vet calls him feral because of it. He had swollen eyes last year and she gave me antibiotics to give him when it wasn't clearing up.
I just rescued a feral cat as a working cat to keep in my barn and take care of mice. The shelters here give them for free as long as you provide food, clean litter, and a warm shelter. They said her owners moved and left her behind, at least she gets a second chance, and wasn't put down. She is very scared, I'm hoping she can warm up to humans since she was once a pet. If not, at least she's a good mouser.
@@TWILIGHTR0SE canned food is magical. :-)
@@TWILIGHTR0SE respect her space, talk to her/leave her a few extra treats with the baseline food, and while i doubt she's ever going to be super cuddly she may very well at least do the occasional "hi giant hairless faily member of my colony let me give you body and cheek rubs so other cats know you're taken" deal. (also, good for you and those shelters that her second chance is even a THING, being a well-taken-care-of mouser is a whole lot better than most of the alternatives.).
I find a lot of people also confuse stray cats with feral cats. My bubba lived her first year on the street with no home or family. But she loves cuddles and it's a rare night she isn't snuggled in bed with me. Not feral.
I really appreciate this comment and the clarification between stray/feral ! I finished the video a little anxious like, "Oh no, is my cat feral?!" We recently adopted him and he's supposedly 1 year old but small (maybe he was the runt) and kitten-like in his behavior. He was found stray, is very friendly, just over-excited and a little bitey at times. We've had him 2 months and he's getting so much better! I always wonder what happened to him on the streets... but he's home now. :)
I think it's pretty easy to tell the difference. Feral cats are unfriendly towards everyone, while a stray cat might be friendly to people (but not other cats). They're all worth taking the time to befriend and love (or just feed, if they "really" don't want your love, lol). They all have feelings, even if some of them seem to have a huge personality while others are about as endearing as a rock with fangs. xD
My dad took a feral cat to the vet because he had been through awful times for the past year. He couldn't convince the vet that he was feral until he pulled him out of the catch. The cat was all over the room! He even bit through the vet's kevlar gloves. Ouch! He gave him a shot for his mouth rot and now Dad is still giving him antibiotics. Hopefully he will completely recover soon. Him and Dad are best buddies. :)
I love the part where she shows her trying to check in with the feral mama's kittens. Lol a METAL spatula, and her hand completely covered, hesitanting at her expert level and the baby is just sliding and going with the flow of it. Kitten doesn't even care moms all upset about her being taken! So cute!
The way they took off when they realize they're free ✌🏽💨💨💨💨💨💨
Can I touch the baby
Mama cat: NO!!
Im just gonna say Hi to te baby
Mama cat: NOO!!
Come here baby
Mama cat: *grumpy*
6:50
I think she would fight to have her baby back
Lol🤣🤣🤣
@@anascarlet Indeed
I'm just going to keep your baby and return you to the wild.
OH HELL NO!
ikr that made me laugh
It took me 6 weeks to socialize a 6 month old feral male and I consider that a big achievement. He looked much younger at first because he's small and I couldn't get a look in his mouth or anything, but now he sleeps with me.
I found him stuck under a trailer in the summer in Arizona with a respiratory infection, so he really had to come in and be treated, but he's ended up staying.
Jen Blevins-Postgate
Congratulations, and I'm glad you saw value in his life!
SBlackmare thank you! I'm that person in my rescue group who will take the bad cases that look dire, and even ones that look like a lost cause. I just had 3 that mom rejected hours after birth and were with a person who didn't know how to care for them. I got them at about 12 hours old. They were half the normal newborn weight and all 3 ended up dying last night within hours of each other, and that hurts, but I take these cases because they're hard and not many people can or will do it. Every life is worth trying to me.
That's so great. Thank you for helping him, you're so sweet.
Carla MSM thanks ❤ I try to give every kitten a chance to thrive and have a home!
Jen Blevins-Postgate i am feral male cat i Would Really love to be saved by you 😻😻, gorgeous Arizonian women 😉
My almost 5 year old cat is semi feral, she’s shy, hisses when we get to close but she’s SUPER friendly when she goes to you
i used to have a neighborhood cat. he was so friendly and kind. whenever you called him he would come. but unfortunately he passed away.
Here in rural Nevada we have many feral cat colonies. Many people feed the and offer them shelter, including us. We keep our garage door open about 5 inches--just enough for a running cat but not enough for a coyote. There's always food on the garage and a cat door in and out of the house. We neuter all of them we can catch. We have caught quite a few kittens who became socialized enough to adopt out. Every now and then an adult who has been coming around for a couple years will decide to try sneaking into the house and, a couple years later, may let us touch it and maybe even become socialized, at least with ud. They are never trapped in the house, as the pet door is always open for them. Right now we have an adult cat that came in as feral, having been previously neutered and released, and is now a pet who spends most of his time in the house. Another started coming in almost a year ago and is now to the point where I can pet him, and I will get him neutered very soon. Bringing in small kittens is like bringing in wild animals (after all, that's basically what they are, but the adults, as they come in on a voluntary basis, are quite easy to get along with as long as we let them adjust to us on their own terms. They are great! People are responsible for them being in the situation they are in, and it should be our responsibility to give them a way out of it.
Merrigale Beddoes could not have been said better!
You’re doing a great job. Very respectful of the cat.
Disgusting
So cute him playing with catnip you inspire me so much I gonna help when I’m older 😻😻😻
Very well done, and spoken !!
There’s a colony of feral cats near where I live and there’s so many of them . People do feed them but they are still having babies and the animal shelter won’t take them or do anything to spay or neuter them . I don’t know what to do .
Contact your local TNR?
I dont really know but im 11 and just like seeing sick kitties to furballs of fluff.
Anyways have a good day. 👋
I befriended a feral cat just by feeding her it take time. I started feeding her when she had a kitten. When I saw she was pregnant again I bought her in. She still rather fail sometimes she lets me pet her sometimes she doesn’t. But she does let me interact with her kittens with that attacking me. I figured once the kittens are weaned and I get her fixed I’ll let her decide if she wants to go back out or not.
Ryryshell / Spay her!
She said she was going to: "once the kittens are weaned and I get her FIXED I'll let her decide"
Ryryshell
That's what we do. Some stay and some go. 50/50 over 11 years for me and others we coordinate with.
Jace Rosenthal the thing is unfortunately not all states have tnr programs. I had a feral cat who gave birth in my garage. I fed her and her kittens until the kittens were weaned. And then I took them in and found them homes. My plan was to also spay mama but there are no reduced rate spay and neuter services or programs in my state, and some people really can't afford $100-$150 per neighborhood cat (it would cost me $1,000's to spay an neuter all the cats I regularly saw)
pollypauline143 I know this, and I don’t really see how it was relevant to my reply?
Loved the vid, Hannah! I really feel like you're making change for cats all over the world by inspiring like this.
I really appreciate your comment. Thank you for watching!
Dum
I picked up a “feral” pregnant cat from the streets. She didn’t like being in my apartment. She preferred the floor rather than the couch or bed. 3 years later, I have 4 cats: the Mom and her three kids. Idk if she was feral, but now she is the best domestic cats. Talks to me all day, lays tummy up for belly rubs, naps all day anywhere; the top of fireplace, beds, couches, boxes, cleaned laundry, dirty laundry...I love my Patches and her three kids; Mischief (Miz), Kylie and Pearl.
"feral cats are uncomfortable with people" hey this is a friggin' mood
Great video! I wanted to share my story: Back when I lived on the country side a old feral cat always went to us to get food. And as she got older she even lived indoors with us. She appreciated a warm home I guess, and we welcomed her presence. We loved her even tho we could not cuddle with her but every now and then we could pet her and she could come and go whenever she pleased to. Then she got sick and she even searched for our company. When she got really sick we could even take her to a vet and she let him handle her, knowing that she could trust us. She peacefully passed away on a blanket in our home and we burried her with the blanket. That was my first real encounter with a feral cat and it was beautiful.
Hi IrgentwasWieHelden, Yeah, I think that some ferals KNOW that Humans can help them. One really mean feral I knew when I was running a couple of feral cat feeding stations, well, she started palling around with me, and I wondered why she suddenly became so friendly, but after almost a week I noticed she was losing weight and getting weak. "Oh! Damn! She's sick!!" she was hanging out with me because she figured I could help her. When she was strong and hateful I was too afraid of her to try to catch her, but in her weakened and "friendly" condition I just got a blanket and tossed it over her and plopped her in a pet carrier and took her to the Animal Hospital. It turns out that a bone was caught in her teeth and prevented her from being able to chew. But the Vet had to put her on intravenous feeding for awhile. After that we were friends, and one of her kittens now lives in doors with me.
That beautiful story made me cry. Thank you for sharing. The cat in my thumbnail picture us baby bunny. She’s semi feral but disabled she has an amputated leg so we adopted her. It’s taken years but she’s come to be extremely loving and trusting and comes up to us for snuggles and pets but won’t let us hold her or carry her. It’s near impossible to take her to the vet. She trusts on her terms in her own way and we respect that.
Scott Weiss
You're calling her "mean" and "hateful." Why are you so judgmental about a cat you later came to like? You say you were afraid of her, but do you not understand that she was also afraid of you? The cats I dealt with certainly were fearful. Some didn't take to the indoors and some did. I would never call any of them mean or hateful. They were grateful for the care I and others gave them when they needed vet care and rehab.
IrgentwasWieHelden
So lovely, thank you. I lost one with a similar story 18 months ago and I think of her every day. She was definitely NOT a "waste of time" as Kitten Lady claims.
Hi SBlackmare, Well, I do see your points, but, when you are running a couple of Feral Cat Feeding Stations and are interacting daily with a large number of different cat personalities, it is inevitable that one will make comparisons. Bloggie, which is what I called her (derived from 'blotchy' as she was a mixed siamese with an imperfect coat) was very aggressive and mean with the other cats. She had no real fear of me. She was cautious that I not try to capture her, but if she could see that my hands were occupied she would be immediately at my side as I put food down. Heck, if she had been afraid of me, I think I would have chased her away. Now, yes, some cats ARE afraid. they are afraid of me, and afraid of the other Cats (a Feral Cat Colony is mostly peaceful, to its Members, but to JOIN a Feral Cat Feeding Colony a new cat has to jump into the fray and absolutely refuse to leave, and, as it happens, the other cats soon lose interest in trying to be intimidating (the worst cat fights are between Toms over sex, and beyond that, cats apparently think that Cat on Cat aggression is not worth the risk). I knew that it would have been a lost cause to oppose Bloggie's Membership. She wasn't afraid of me! But, yes, I came to respect Bloggie, and now, having her daughter in my house, well, it is quite a prize. She seems little and stunted, but she has all the Pride and Character of her mother. She is a little Red Thing, slender with a head that would belong to a prize winning Siamese. Gorgeous little thing. I call her Princess Punky, daughter of Bloggie Queen of the Jungle.
i lost it at the spatula XD , my male tom one rainy day brought me a feral female young cat we let her stay at the store garage as it was rainy season and the store had enough windows to go in and out she seemed to realy like my tom and followed him around a lot till he died after that she kept coming in the rainy days but hardly for food as there are many restorants around and all the ferals are partying around the trashcans , i was just greeting her whenever i saw her siting at the garage leting her in peace , she still comes to visit today but shes not a house cat i am the only one who she wont hiss if i pet her but i cant hold her nor grab her , she must be around 9 years old today
Lyra Veil thank you for respecting her 💖
Lyra Veil
Have you trapped her and had her spayed? Please say yes…
sadly its the reason i left it out in Greece spaying costed insanly if you didint go in an animal shelter and where i lived back then (island ) we didnt have i was forced to move to the central Greece due to my hemophilia but the prices have lowerd a lot since back then when i return its one of the things i wish to do
I've shared this video a hundred times & will continue to share it. Thank you for this perspective. 💜
Getting the kitten with a spatula was both hilarious and genius. 😂
And I can’t help but chuckle at the photos of feral mama with her litter. The babies are like oh yeah, pet life is da best. While Mama’s thinking oh god, we’re all gonna die!
Feral = not been given the purrito treatment
Cupid Cat I agree
Cupid Cat,
Pretty darn much
More like not wanting the purrito treatment
Cupid Cat
Yeah, Hannah doesn't even realize she's advocating for the release of the majority of indoor cats. I used to be a fan. Now I wish she'd stick with kitten rescue and … oh yeah, they're pretty hissy as well. Better leave the kittens to die because hiss!
SBlackmare totally missed the point in the video...
She's advocating for NOT capturing and keeping prisoner feral cats against their will, ones that are born and raised in the wild...
She's not saying "everyone throw your cats outside!"
I started feeding this very feral male cat last year and when days became colder he decided he wanted to be inside. I gained his trust and now he is outdoor/ indoor cat
I'm so jealous, look at all those baby cats you get to hold. Sometimes 2, 3, or 4 at a time, and get to kiss them and put your face in their soft fur. That must be a little bit if heaven.
I’m fostering a feral teen kitty and she is the nicest and sweetest feral cat I’ve ever been with or seen! I love her! Thank you so much for letting everyone know about the good side of cats!
Feral cats don't want to be around humans huh? Can relate
Me too....lol
Elsa Frost I agree 💯❤️🌹
I'm like a feral cat too! I don't wanna be around people, just cats lolol
We Identify as feral Cats then :3
It's called being an introvert
I'm so happy Bun's back where she wants to be. AND that she'll no longer have to have babies. Be free and happy, Bunbun!!!!!!
I really enjoy your show! I visited Israel several years back, and saw feral cats everywhere! I stayed at a kibbutz near Jerusalem. They had a ton of cats everywhere! So (as a cat fan) I went to the store and bought a bunch of big cans of cat food. I found out that putting some food down next to me really loosened the cats demeanor and I got some very good interaction! so cool!
You are the best cat lady ever. Thank you for what you do! Such powerful messages in this video, and so passionately delivered.
We also have "free roaming". Outdoor cats who love to be petted, but ain't no way you'll pick them up.... but i like the term of community cat!
I'm about to foster care because of you thank you for the amazing videos Thank You
YAY! HERO!
Miss Kitty I've been thinking about it lately, but I can barely own my own cat in my parents' house. So, I think I will once I get my own place, but for now, I'm thinking of volunteering at a shelter or somewhere to take care of animals without a home.
Volunteering at the Humane Society here where I live. Is exactly what I'm doing too Meghan!!! I just don't think I've got what it takes to foster.
Cory
I love that this i formation is being spread. I always do catch, fix, release for ferals. I have seen cats that will walk right up to you to be pet but hates being in a house, cage, or car.
It’s so sad when people try to adopt feral cats thinking they can make them “right” again. Some people I know took a feral young cat that they found off the street and decided to adopt him. It’s absolutely terrible. That poor cat snaps at every single human, claws and bites, simply because he’s terrified. The owners of the cat simply put it down as him being “moody” it’s not. And this video has really made me more aware of that.
I actually found your channel from watching TinyKittensHQ (was on the sidebar)they work with 2 feral colonies and it's pretty interesting. I love that like them you believe the cat's happiness and safety are more important then humans desires to have them in their lives. Just recently they moved one of the ferals that was being treated for kindney issues back to his forest and the footage of how happy he was to be with his colony again was really moving. Their dna project is really interesting too.
Angelica Reid
I love TinyKittensHQ. Do you really think Hannah would approve of adopting out Sable, Chloe, Ramona etc.? Or Sugar Plum, lol. I fear Grandpa Mason would not make it in the Kitten Lady universe because he isn't affectionate with humans.
My indoor cats are both former ferals, but the second one took some time to snuggle. In the meantime she was bonded to my #1 feral and had no desire whatsoever to head back outside. So inside she stayed, where Hannah wouldn't approve because her 8-week window had expired, lol. Apparently her window extended another year, and she is now fully integrated and very snuggly.
There's been a few feral cats in my neighborhood in the past couple of years. Rat problem solved!
My heart melted with that cat rolling over catnips omg
When I was younger, we rescued a litter of kittens from an unfortunate situation. I respect what you do, currently a year ago I adopted a cat. These days when you adopt in my area, you have to promise to fix them when they come of age for that surgery.
My first foster ever was a feral Siamese cat. Her caretaker decided she didn’t want her anymore, trapped her, and dumped her at the rescue’s front step. They decided that maybe she could be tamed because she was somewhat friendly. Nope! That girl wanted to be free! She tore through my window screen and now lives with a caretaker, perfectly healthy and happy as a wild kitty. And don’t worry, she was spayed and vaccinated before her great escape! :)
Another, probably rare, scenario is gratitude. I found a starving pregnant stray, and she came straight up to us begging for food. We were able to pick her up and put her in a carrier. After spaying it took a month getting her to a healthy weight. All during this time if we were in the room she would sit, roll, rub, lick, and headbutt us incessantly. When we got her adopted the adopter told us she wouldn't go anywhere near her. She wouldn't attack, but would swat and hiss at her for months before she accepted her. Its like she decided who she was feral and who she was tame with. You had to prove you had HER best interest at heart.
That's probably because of the nurturing hormones she had
Awwww 100% agree
We got our feral cat comfortable with coming inside, but that's just because we got a kitten who was an inside cat who had a fenced in area out the cat door to use the litterbox. But the feral kitty always saw us interacting w/ the kitten, and when he got older, we let him go into the farm with her. There's like 50 acres so she could run away if she wanted, but she slowly saw how nice we were to the tame kitty that eventually she became more loving than the kitty raised indoors. But this is a special situation, the feral cat was never forced indoors, but allowed to socialize with us and a tame cat at her own pace. She still sleeps outside, even though we've set up a plywood room with a heater in it outside for her to sleep in during the winter. And she likes it out there, but now she spends all her freetime right outside our door, rather than as a pair of glinting eyes we could kinda see in the bushes if we squinted hard enough.
Every cat is different, and i guess it takes a lot of experience with cats before you develop your own common sense about how to treat different types of cats in different situations.
But yeah, if you know what you're doing, trust yourself. If not, the Kitten Lady has tons of good advice! Do some studying, and after that it's honestly just trial and error. Gotta interact with different types of cats to know in the future how those types of cats are best delt with.
Good luck everyone! Lots of love from another cat lady 💕💕
I found a feral kitten. I heard that word but didn't know what it really meant until I took her home with intention of taking her to the shelter the day after. She hid, she hissed at me, I said "now I'm stuck with a cat!" I tried to lightly touch her tail as she came close to me on the bed--each time a light touch to the tail. Finally after 4 months on December 11--I remember the date--I was able to hold my gift from above in my arms. She's 13 now! I adore her~ Thank you God for this gift I didn't even know I wanted. I will die without her.
Always so positive and informative!
Thanks Aaron!
Very informational about feral cats. I'm a bit feral myself against human beings....err wait that's being introvert. Good video and the catpula was funny.
I guess we should meet us I'm same like u
I'm A ambivert.....⚠️🐱🐈
Hello my fellow introvert
I am also feral.
More people need to see this. We had a neighborhood cat have kittens in our backyard; after a bit of shenanigans, we finally got ahold of her and all four kittens. Kittens got full care, and have a beautiful home! We don't think Mama Cat was ever socialized, so we TNR'd. It's been about two years now, and while she's absolutely not approachable, she definitely recognizes us and knows we won't chase her. We feed her and a couple of the other TNR community cats; she knows where the food is coming from, so she hangs out at a distance, but knows us well enough that we can talk to her, take pictures, etc without getting super spooked.
First I have to say how much you have helped me. I started to work with a tnr group about 2 years ago and it has helped me a lot to help the cats outside and rescue the little ones (and I love the spatula for the kitten) keep up awesome work (I have 3 street rescues myself and refer to them as they tiny but mighty as in your book
I've always had a soft spot for ferals, there's a handful in my area and over the years I've made some great bonds with a few, especially Luna, my beautiful black cat who likes nothing more than sleeping in my bed and getting doted over. It's all about taking it at their pace and making them feel comfortable. It's better to let them come to you then the other way round. Love your vids, you're doing such great work!!
Wow you really educated me. Much of the info in the beginning of your video I already knew. But the info in the 2nd half of your video was really "eye opening" & valuable for me. Thanks for explaining !
This video makes me miss my feral cat. She had such a sweet personality, we eventually brought her to our house and kept her outside and brought her inside on occasion, she hung around us for years, then she eventually moved on. Wish you the best Friday 😁
I love how you keep popping kittens out of your pocket after each explanation, makes me laugh hard! :-)
that was so funny when she lifted the blanket and he was looking all scary... priceless I wonder how long that took to get that shot....i love this girl and everything she dose
not very long. Currently TNR-ing and babygirl gives that face every time she sees me look at her.
Kitten lady droppin some truth bombs 😫🤙🏽
You forget the bomb emoji 💣
r/emojipolice
Found a two week old kitten caught between two walls in a school's cafe. Mom seemed to be trying to move them in the attic of the building. I bottle fed her and she is tame but really doesn't trust anyone but me. She does come for affection but everything is on her terms. She is hyper and goes after anything that moves. Feral is not inherited but I believe that the caution and hunting instinct is stronger in them because this is survival mechanisms that allow feral cats to survive better on their own. I love Sassy Pants dearly and accept her for who she is.
One of the meanest cats I every knew kinda tammed himself at a shop I used to work at.
I guess he decided living in the shop was what was best for him and realized getting along with the humans inside was something he had to do. In the beginning he would attack anyone who happened by after a few years we couldn’t get him to leave us alone.
But that’s not anything we did of forced him, he did all this all on his own.