It’s great to hear from you as always, Roger. I specifically wanted to do this in an HST as a kind of tribute to them being taken out of service on the MML.
Leicester to Bedford can really only be easily connected if the same origin points are used. It might be possible to take the two existing origin points for each station and build the path between those to force it to fit, but if the proper layout of the route would force Bedford or Leicester to have a different origin point, it will be difficult to connect the two. A problem with having different developers. The only real fix is for JT to do its own extension all the way to London. Which might not be a bad idea as some have commented the quality of the London to Bedford is sub-par and JT is getting better at routes, as you're noted this is possibly the best network to date.
Great video Pete! Your exterior shots are very realistic and not overdone As an outside observer might see them too. We are not perched on the roof or hanging off the side of the carriages. 😁 👍
Thank you so much for doing this tutorial. Much appreciated. It goes perfect with my Class 43 Console setup from TS Controllers purchased some months ago.
Oh great! Glad you finally go round to making this one. Its a shame you didn't go to Nottingham though. This is my local main line. I'm just sad it is rather laggy on my PC
Haha, that’s because you can easily read the primary speed limit for every train - which is 100mph. There’s a tiny 110 speed post right below it for HSTs.
Such a great vid 👍 Chesterfield is my local station and watching this has made me buy TS2021 myself. 😊 One video that might be cool is doing a route learning video on the Riviera Line in the Fifties from Exeter to Dartmouth with a Castle or King Class though I do like the modern routes too.
Great, as always!! I’m catching up on your videos. They are really nice! I’d like to ask you, if I may, about how do you prepare yourself for each route so that you know every upcoming speed limit, gradient, distances from signals to stations… do you have official documentation or similar? You put so much hard work into it and it shows!! Thanks!!!
@PTGRail Soon, you should do the Exmouth - Paignton Full route, In either a 150/2, 150/0 or 166/165 as the Pacer was removed from service, and 166/5s have taken its place, along with 150/0s and 150/2s. I would love to see this, in TS2020, if possible.
Having researched how to drive the hst as realistic as possible in this sim here's how to use the throttle when pulling away & how to brake. Now this procedure can vary between TOC's but the general consensus is to put power into notch 1, wait for the amps to start building then straight into notch 3, wait for amps to settle then into notch 4, again wait for the amps to settle & into notch 5 which you should be in by around 10-15 mph. Obviously depending on whether your an incline or have a slow speed limit shortly after moving off or adverse weather dictates whether you go above notch 3 etc or how quickly you increase the power. When taking the power off you should never go straight into the idle position instead you go into notch 1 & wait for the amps to reduce, takes about 5 seconds & then you can idle the power. As for braking, step 3 is the norm with step 4 braking used intermittently to reduce speed quicker if needed. Found all this info on a rail forum when someone asked real HST drivers how to correctly drive the locomotive.
Very variable, even between drivers within one TOC. I prefer the more traditional technique - start in 3, then 4, then 5 applying power as each stage of engine rev increase catches up. That way you get the power to build roughly as the load regulator catches up and you get the best acceleration. As for braking, Step 3/4 is typical for station stops but when running at 125 there are times where a double yellow means straight to Notch 5 or 6, no mucking about to kill that speed. The most important thing is always to kill the speed early and not to be too light on the brakes initially and have to keep increasing it at lower speeds to get stopped. The MML was quite generously set out when it was still 110 max, you rarely needed more than Step 4 anywhere if at all. Since the increase to up to 125mph running there are some sections where particularly in poor weather an initial splash of at least Step 5 to kill off the extra speed is advisable at times when you get those cautionary aspects. Again it varies, some drivers like to just go Step 4 almost to a stand, I prefer to use a higher notch of brake if I deem it necessary then gradually step down the braking and ease off to a full release if I can just before coming to a stand at a red, adhering to the rule of 15 max over the 'magnets', even though that often means you need to release, roll and then reapply the brake at times so you don't stop too short. Was simpler when you could just taxi on up to the sticks without worrying about getting the speed down to 15 over the ramps and could just make a smooth progressive approach.
@@hexagon7895 very insightful info, will take all that onboard as I'm always wanting to drive the hst in the sim as close to what real life drivers do. Have you ever driven the HST in this sim with the Armstrong powerhouse enhancement pack, I'm wondering just how accurate the physics are & you're probably the ideal person to ask.
Nice video! I'm curious about how you made it: do you do your commentary live or do you add that onto the simulator videos after? I've done a couple of route learning videos myself and I usually voice over video content; partially because I stream the game to my iMac which complicates live recording.
A 1 in 100 grade would be the equivalent to a 1% grade in US terms. The measurement is how many feet you are climbing over what distance - so for a 1 in 100 grade, you climb 1 foot in altitude for every 100 feet you travel forwards. That would roughly equate to climbing 53 feet every mile you travel.
@Metra Amtrak BNSF CB&Q Milwaukee Road Railfanner I know you want me to do more US videos, but can you please stop spamming the comments of every video with your requests? American videos will come in time, but spamming the comments section won’t speed them up.
I have two words for you as a Scottish subscriber . . . The first is 'Cathcart' The second is 'circle' Two videos: Glasgow - Neilston (via Queens Park) Glasgow - Newton (via Maxwell Park)
Can you do a service wich is Doncaster - Sheffield in a 150? It calls at Doncaster Conisbrough Mexborough Swinton Rotherham Central Meadowhall and Sheffield
The section between Sheffield and Doncaster doesn’t really exist in Train Simulator so far. I am thinking of making some real life routes in the distance future once I have a much better computer.
@Metra Amtrak BNSF CB&Q Milwaukee Road Railfanner as I said at the start of this video, I’m making a few more videos in TS, but TSW videos will be coming soon - including my first US video since returning to CZcams, the Peninsula Corridor.
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Wish I had a quid for every time I had waited for that train to London in a morning, the modelling of Sheffield station looks amazing
Another great video, Peter, and good timing. The last EMR HST ran on 15th May 2021.
It’s great to hear from you as always, Roger. I specifically wanted to do this in an HST as a kind of tribute to them being taken out of service on the MML.
HST is a true classic, recently purchased this route so looking forward to seeing how it should be driven ☺
Oh sweet lord, thank you; the HST is back!
Leicester to Bedford can really only be easily connected if the same origin points are used. It might be possible to take the two existing origin points for each station and build the path between those to force it to fit, but if the proper layout of the route would force Bedford or Leicester to have a different origin point, it will be difficult to connect the two. A problem with having different developers. The only real fix is for JT to do its own extension all the way to London. Which might not be a bad idea as some have commented the quality of the London to Bedford is sub-par and JT is getting better at routes, as you're noted this is possibly the best network to date.
Great video Pete!
Your exterior shots are very realistic and not overdone
As an outside observer might see them too. We are not perched on the roof or hanging off the side of the carriages.
😁 👍
Thank you so much for doing this tutorial. Much appreciated. It goes perfect with my Class 43 Console setup from TS Controllers purchased some months ago.
exactly what im thinking, got mine couple of months ago
Oh great! Glad you finally go round to making this one. Its a shame you didn't go to Nottingham though. This is my local main line. I'm just sad it is rather laggy on my PC
Hey Peter. I’m from chesterfield and the station is scarily accurate. Down to the placement of the posters
Thanks for another good video.
One pronunciation error (I think) - the SY in Syston, as far as I'm aware, is pronounced like Sigh.
He got Sileby wrong too. It's pronounced "sigh-il-bee"
41:30 passes 100mph speed board "the speed limit is now going upto 110mph" lol
Haha, that’s because you can easily read the primary speed limit for every train - which is 100mph. There’s a tiny 110 speed post right below it for HSTs.
@@PTGRail ahh, I missed that lol
Great video as always so helpful as do not have a pc to run ts myself
Such a great vid 👍 Chesterfield is my local station and watching this has made me buy TS2021 myself. 😊 One video that might be cool is doing a route learning video on the Riviera Line in the Fifties from Exeter to Dartmouth with a Castle or King Class though I do like the modern routes too.
Thank you
your pronunciation of syston killed me lol
Great, as always!! I’m catching up on your videos. They are really nice! I’d like to ask you, if I may, about how do you prepare yourself for each route so that you know every upcoming speed limit, gradient, distances from signals to stations… do you have official documentation or similar? You put so much hard work into it and it shows!! Thanks!!!
Good Wednesday evening to you sir from Wellington Somerset
Thank you David! I hope you enjoyed the video 🙂
Wonder if you’ll revisit this when it comes out in train sim world 😂
Do you have a link to the route you used for this video?
It is available in the Steam Store.
Wish I had as many routes as you
It's syston station in Leicestershire as I come from Leicester myself ptg rail
Same! It's how he pronounced Sileby though 😂
@PTGRail Soon, you should do the Exmouth - Paignton Full route, In either a 150/2, 150/0 or 166/165 as the Pacer was removed from service, and 166/5s have taken its place, along with 150/0s and 150/2s. I would love to see this, in TS2020, if possible.
Having researched how to drive the hst as realistic as possible in this sim here's how to use the throttle when pulling away & how to brake.
Now this procedure can vary between TOC's but the general consensus is to put power into notch 1, wait for the amps to start building then straight into notch 3, wait for amps to settle then into notch 4, again wait for the amps to settle & into notch 5 which you should be in by around 10-15 mph.
Obviously depending on whether your an incline or have a slow speed limit shortly after moving off or adverse weather dictates whether you go above notch 3 etc or how quickly you increase the power.
When taking the power off you should never go straight into the idle position instead you go into notch 1 & wait for the amps to reduce, takes about 5 seconds & then you can idle the power.
As for braking, step 3 is the norm with step 4 braking used intermittently to reduce speed quicker if needed.
Found all this info on a rail forum when someone asked real HST drivers how to correctly drive the locomotive.
Very variable, even between drivers within one TOC. I prefer the more traditional technique - start in 3, then 4, then 5 applying power as each stage of engine rev increase catches up. That way you get the power to build roughly as the load regulator catches up and you get the best acceleration.
As for braking, Step 3/4 is typical for station stops but when running at 125 there are times where a double yellow means straight to Notch 5 or 6, no mucking about to kill that speed. The most important thing is always to kill the speed early and not to be too light on the brakes initially and have to keep increasing it at lower speeds to get stopped.
The MML was quite generously set out when it was still 110 max, you rarely needed more than Step 4 anywhere if at all. Since the increase to up to 125mph running there are some sections where particularly in poor weather an initial splash of at least Step 5 to kill off the extra speed is advisable at times when you get those cautionary aspects. Again it varies, some drivers like to just go Step 4 almost to a stand, I prefer to use a higher notch of brake if I deem it necessary then gradually step down the braking and ease off to a full release if I can just before coming to a stand at a red, adhering to the rule of 15 max over the 'magnets', even though that often means you need to release, roll and then reapply the brake at times so you don't stop too short.
Was simpler when you could just taxi on up to the sticks without worrying about getting the speed down to 15 over the ramps and could just make a smooth progressive approach.
@@hexagon7895 very insightful info, will take all that onboard as I'm always wanting to drive the hst in the sim as close to what real life drivers do.
Have you ever driven the HST in this sim with the Armstrong powerhouse enhancement pack, I'm wondering just how accurate the physics are & you're probably the ideal person to ask.
Nice video!
I'm curious about how you made it: do you do your commentary live or do you add that onto the simulator videos after?
I've done a couple of route learning videos myself and I usually voice over video content; partially because I stream the game to my iMac which complicates live recording.
They actually modelled that God ugly blue skyscraper 🤣
Hi. I'm from the US...when it comes to gradients what does 1 in 100, etc refer to?
A 1 in 100 grade would be the equivalent to a 1% grade in US terms. The measurement is how many feet you are climbing over what distance - so for a 1 in 100 grade, you climb 1 foot in altitude for every 100 feet you travel forwards. That would roughly equate to climbing 53 feet every mile you travel.
@Metra Amtrak BNSF CB&Q Milwaukee Road Railfanner I know you want me to do more US videos, but can you please stop spamming the comments of every video with your requests? American videos will come in time, but spamming the comments section won’t speed them up.
Its actually the trigonometric function "tan" of the angle of the incline.
Someone make the Supertram routes
I have two words for you as a Scottish subscriber . . .
The first is 'Cathcart'
The second is 'circle'
Two videos:
Glasgow - Neilston (via Queens Park)
Glasgow - Newton (via Maxwell Park)
Love a good HST. Can we get some pacer action next?
Nice video, is there anywhere you submit these scenarios online so other people can download them and drive them?
Very enjoyable route, with very enjoyable traction! ;)
Can I enquire where the scenario is from? I don't think you said but perhaps I missed it. :)
Hi mate where do you get your route learning stuff from?
Hi. Is this the DLC that is available on Steam or did your purchase it on Just Trains website. Thank you.
It’s available on both :)
I'd almost forgot how good a Paxman engine sounded, are you using the AP sounds?
Yes, I’m using the AP VP185 enhancement pack in this video. I’m planning a video in a Valenta HST in the not too distant future.
@@PTGRail It sounds a bit beefier than the sounds I have, I wonder if they updated the sounds.
I wish this had been done with the HUD showing. Good video, but not very helpful without the HUD
The whole purpose of these videos is to teach people how to drive without the HUD. I'm aiming for maximum realism! :)
What route is that
Can you do a service wich is Doncaster - Sheffield in a 150? It calls at Doncaster Conisbrough Mexborough Swinton Rotherham Central Meadowhall and Sheffield
The section between Sheffield and Doncaster doesn’t really exist in Train Simulator so far. I am thinking of making some real life routes in the distance future once I have a much better computer.
@@transportationuk7656 well that sucks.
Which DLC is this?
And how did you get this scenario?
Weird uploading time xD
I just published it as I happen to still be awake. This is what happens when you come off night shifts at work XD
@Metra Amtrak BNSF CB&Q Milwaukee Road Railfanner as I said at the start of this video, I’m making a few more videos in TS, but TSW videos will be coming soon - including my first US video since returning to CZcams, the Peninsula Corridor.
Heely
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