Mercedes AMG GT Coupe vs Porsche 911 - Which do I buy and why?
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- Mercedes AMG GT Coupe vs Porsche 911 - Which do I buy and why?
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Porsche is the only right answer
Subjectively
@@EnzoNotFerrari21porshce is objectively better
Porsche is always the right answer. 😎
@@rickyvalent2742 not really , cause it’s hard to compare. Mercedes is a brand more focused with road cars and mass-production for the richer market. While Porsche is made more primarily for racing, performance, and for the even richer supercar market (although they still make road-focused cars like the cayenne). If you are talking about specific cars that are made to compete with each other like the 911 and AMG gt, then yes I think Porsche is better imo
It's not. The Porsche makes you look like a doctor or a tax consultant here in germany. I hate the Porsche fanbase aswell
That is the best looking 911 Mercedes have ever designed!
Doesn't have look like the 911 this design has even been carried over from the old sls gullwing
Mercedes basically made their own idea of a 911 this go round. I think it looks great, the AMG GT always has, but something about the old one still gets me. The side view shows me they pushed the cabin forward a bit, shortening the hood and making it look much more agile. Which isn’t a bad thing in the slightest; the car looks more athletic now.
but amg gt was always the loooong hood car
the fact the hood now compares to a rear engined cars hood is debatable at best
The hood isn’t that long, it even shorter than current Z4 hood.
I have the new SL63, so similar shaping as the new GT. Pictures are hard because you cant get a feel for real-life proportion. Once you see the car, especially next to the old SLs and GTs, it's actually more like they've extended the rear for the most part, with only a slight cabin move forward. The hood is just as long as the old GT physically.
The previous was like a real GT with the iconic long bonnet and the classic flawless proportions like basically the SLS.
That Mercedes is mighty gorgeous. I think had I the money, I’d have to take a 2015 GT - the front grill and headlights are so beautiful. Between the two here, it’s the Porsche.
mid... Mercedes better overal
@@sir_kala🤡🤡
@@sir_kala says who? Voices from your head? 😂
@@mcunhabr Actually no, for grown old man you act like a child
Look at everything that makes a car brand the best
1 - Sales(clearly Mercedes stomps, no doubt)
2 - Safety(no need to talk)
3 - Reliability(Porsche has great reliability such as Mercedes)
4 - Praticality(the only pratical models from Porsche are Macan, Cayenne and Panamera)
5 - Price point
6 - Quality overall(Porsche has good quality same as Mercedes)
7 - Variety(no need to talk)
8 - Performance(compare three of the highest performance range I'm talking about AMG One, GT Black Series, GT63S... x 918, GT2RS, GT3RS...)
Talking about the Performance
AMG One, lap time 6:35.183 > GT Black Series 6:43.616 > GT2RS 6:47.3 > GT3RS 6:49.328 > GT63S 7:23.009
Note that Porsche ran with the gt2rs and gt3rs more than once, while Mercedes only made once for each, and on wet track conditions
And the GT Black Series shouldn't be compared with GT2RS cuz GT2RS is based on Porsche GT2 cars, GT2 cars are made for high speed races on tracks with low amounts of downforce, while the GT3 cars are the opposite made for being better on cornes with huge amounts of downforce.
That said, GT Black Series shares same category with GT3RS, but is so incredible and well done(MASTERPIECE) that people compared with GT2RS and is able to beat him
If you want to say "but hey GT Black Series has more hp than GT3RS, suits better compare it with GT2RS🤓" remember that Porsche doesn't make high hp cars, gt3 cost +200k and has 510hp, with +200k you can have +600hp on Mercedes
Sooo ya Mercedes better overall
@@sir_kala I’m a child? Than explain to me how YOU have so much free time to write a constitution to prove a point to a completely strange? I will not lose my time to read this gigantic text… Grow up and get a life! 🤡
I’m personally taking the amg gt it looks better to me and has the v8, I don’t think the weight is as big of a deal as everyone is making it out to be, amg knows how to handle weight dynamically. To me the amg just has more emotion to me. Ik im gonna be in the minority with this because th gt3 is a great car but it’s just too serious imo.
The only reason for picking the amg is in ur opinion it looks better. Talking performance steering braking acceleration speed interior porsche all day everyday
@@G82Watts or better reliability like any w123/w124 owner claims being a "German Toyota", 911 has the heritage that the AMG GT wish to have, V8 is only reason it sounds good
The naturally aspirated straight 6 is just a better driving engine, especially going up to 9000rpm
@@ethanmatthews7984 amgs are just more theatrical to me, I like the drama of the v8 even if it doesn’t rev to 9000rpm
@@G82Watts yes ik on paper the gt3 drives better, it in fact is more track focused but the amg drives more aggressive its dynamics are more theatrical so im taking the amg.
wouldnt the turbo 911 be a more apt comparison, considering we are likely to get a black series thats perhaps a better analogue to porsche's gt line?
Yeah 911 Turbo would be a much closer comparison IMO. The AMG GT is not a screaming n/a enthusiast car like a gt3 is.
@@MrCole56 yea the GT3 Touring is perhaps the best looking version of the 911 and the turbo is perhaps my least favourite looking 911, but I think its a better comparison as someone thats shopping for a GT Coupe is likely crossshopping it with a 911 turbo. They both serve the same purpose in the market
Gt3 with a 6 speed manual all day long!
gt3 100%. Naturally aspirated is so much more fun, but if i could choose i would take the S/T over the GT3.
You can’t compare the 2.
Every car guy picks the gt3, while some influencers might pick the AMG.
Porsche guys are delusional honestly not e every car person is Into porsche I'd go with the Merc anytime and day..
This should have been vs the 911 Turbo?
Wouldn’t the GT3 be comparable to what was the AMGGTR Pro? And the GT3 RS Weissach Package vs Black series?
Black series is almost double the price of GT3 RS and has 200 hp less.
@@MuppetsSh0w you mean the GT2RS? The Black Series has 720HP. GT3RS is 518
this is what I was thinking as well!
@@MuppetsSh0w base price was 327k. The fact that is cost so much more now is a testament to how people view that car. The GTR RS Weissach is north of 300 and these numbers are MSRP
Stop valuing the cars based on the market rather than the sticker price
Porsche makes the best steering wheels imo, for a simple reason: They made it a wheel used for steering.
Not an octagon to check my e-mails.
the porsche is always the answer. better looks, better driving, less weight
Yet, the AMG has the sound, the look, and more special because it doesn't look like anything else the road
@@CanyonsCarver so you are telling me that the 911 looks like anything else? If anything the amg looks more generic than the 911. And what sound are you talking about, You probably have never heard of a gt3 or a turbo witha proper exhaust lol. The amg has nothing on the porsche, and it generally has nothing. It doesnt even know what it is and its just a rebadged sl.
@@loukasantoniou8054 The AMG is more special, trust me on this
@loukasantoniou8054 no need to hate! It has a better interior, a way better sound and looks a lot more expensive and also it has been destroying Porsche on the tracks. This is coming from a guy who is looking to buy a GT3 RS. And yes I will be buying this one too when mercedes releases all the specs.
@@CanyonsCarver no i dont😂
Buy the Porsche.
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This is a very nicely done video, great job
Both are very well designed although the Porsche is will age better. The major problem with Porsche though is trying to order a brand new one to your own spec.
Great content here and attention to details is just spot on!!!!!
To me, there is absolutely no question! Either have a blast with the GT3, or have another cup of coffee.
Not even porsche knew that gt3rs can make 0-100 in 2.7sec🤣🤣🤣🤣that's turbo s spec
By the way you misundertand yourself... you saw specs from turbo s, in the name of gt3rs but you're talking about gt3... sooo
This new Mercedes AMG GT has lost one it’s most important design feature. That huge space between the the front wheel and the A pillar was signature. It was was on the classic SL coupe, the SLR Mclaren, the SLS, the 1st gen AMG GT and 2nd gen AMG GT but not it doesn’t have that signature look. It looks like it’s shamelessly copying the 911.
I thought the same thing. Literally looks like they're trying to out-Porsche Porsche lol. But the grille situation on the AMG looks way to big to be elegant, which is what the overall body style is so it doesn't match at all to my eye. Should be 30% smaller at least and that gap between wheel and A pillar that you mentioned should be there too.
@@The1SSGrant out-Porsche is definitely correct, just like how their Maybach wants out-Rolls Royce a Rolls Royce, 911 and RR>Maybach and AMG GT
Yup, they can’t beat Porsche so they steal from them lmao
You're right. No wonder the bonnet looks short
Always Porsche
Both really stunning designs.
BMW needs to get off the bathsalts.
What I love most about the Mercedes is the low, tightly-wrapped feel of the hood and front quarter panels 10:43. The rear 3/4 view really shows how pushed forward, and to the edges, the front wheels are, and the hood and quarter panels are tightly wrapped (again, for lack of better word) around them. I prefer this newer model to the old. It looks far more fit for purpose, where the old looked really heavy, and frankly unweildy with the length of the front end.
I honestly don't care much for the front of the GT3 (the lower bumper area in particular) but understand that it is mostly form follows function here. I get a "minnow mouth" feel from the little oblong grill part. Which Porsche front is at 03:49? That is MUCH better looking to me. The rear though? AMAZEBALLS. It even has a bit of a retro feel. Love it!
I just love the sound of an AMG engine. I just can’t get over that beautiful rumble! You made all valid points tho!
I've never liked the AMG GT, because it's never lived up to the SLS for me (which still looks miles better to this day in my opinion).
well it not supposed to !
In the real world for most people it boils down to allocation assuming you don’t want to pay ADM. I’m partial to Porsche I don’t have the money to switch cars every several years. The Porsche will age better. Having said that Good luck getting an allocation for a GT3.
One is a super track car that few in its class can compete with
The other as you stated is a GT car that has more competition
Depends on your desire for looks, sound, ride and price
Concerning straight line performance they’re very close in real life.
I believe someone got about 3 secs 0-60 with the GT
One the role I believe the GT will have the advantage
Mercedes GT has been killing the 911 on tracks, including GT series and Nurburgring.
Funny how Mercedes has killed the 911 gt rs with the black series
@@CanyonsCarver yep and more powerful engines help a lot
I’ll take the amg gt any day… the Porsche looks very.. traditional! The merc looks gorgeous and has more emotion like a fresh new attitude. I know most of you like to stay in the past but I’d get bored from Porsche’s design
Literally stole prsche styling
▪︎▪︎▪︎ This new GT was already born from Porsche genes
I don't even have to think about this or test drive the cars before making my CHOICE... PORSCHE all day, every day. More reliability and greater handling. 🖤💯
mercedes is really coming at porsche throat with this one. Either way I just love 2 + 2 coupes
Lol watch it race a porsche on carwow it's not even close to a competition, hell even the bmw m3 comp xdrive is faster
Not even close
@@G82Watts can you link ? because this race hasn't happened yet !
AMG GT would be my pick even with the 911's performance pedigree and every single iconic historical reference it has on it's car sleeve.
From drivers perspective I appreciate the larger windows.of the 911. It adds just so much do the driving experience and joy.
the 911 GT3 will look better for longer, no question and when the question is buying one... I'd be keeping it forever so yeah, very easy choice. The AMG is great to drive, but I don't need the car to look like it'll swallow children. Overall it's a really well-designed car but I think it would look so much better if that grille was 30% smaller. I miss classiness from MB because they did it well. But no worries, I wouldn't buy it anyway. My grandfather has a 2021 911 Turbo S and I know that I will want my own 911 in the future
Edit: oh also, the interiors makes this so easy. I don't think any of these touchscreen heavy vehicles will look good in 10 years and definitely not 20 or 30. Which is the amount of time I'd keep my 911. It looks so much more timeless. I don't know anyone who owns an AMG GT due to simply aspirational goals or because their father or grandfather had one. I know two people that have one, one is a 23 year old kid with a rich step dad and the other is a mid-30's real estate guy who is a bit of an a-hole. lol. But I know more than 10 guys who have a 911 for that reason of aspiration. There's a reason the 911 stays so beautiful and an evolution of design
Cry me a river fanboy
@@MaticTheProto having an opinion makes me a fanboy? Alright then lol. Also, “cry me a river” is something you say to people who are complaining, which… I’m not even in the slightest. Just some of my thoughts and experience on the 911 and AMG GT, but thanks for your big brain comment 😂
I am a Merc fan boy but I’ve never given any Merc victory over the 911 cause thats a crazy car!!! This time i would love to applaud the Merc for producing something that brings a great challenge to the 911. This should have been a comparison to the Turbo S but still.. Merc managed to make me indecisive between the two. 🔥🔥👏🏾👏🏾
That CZcams money hit my man ❤
AMG GT is the perfect car for the ladies crusing around Beverly Hills, they won't mind its over 1200 lbs heavier than the GT3, 6500 rpm vs 9000 rpm redline, boosted v8 vs NA wailing flat six motor, 9 spd auto vs 6 spd manual, tacky El Cheapo RGB infested nightclub style cockpit vs old school driver focused interior.
let's be honest who cares about weight ? 99% of it's life is on public roads or stored in a garage somewhere !
@@yugarten8523 That's exactly my point. For users who only care about the looks and badge. AMG GT is the perfect choice for them. But for car enthusiasts, 911 is a more compelling choice. A 4300 lbs+ sports car is simply abhorrent.
11:13 The organic curvature of the AMG is the reason why I like FD RX7
There is no wrong answers. In my ideal life, I'll have the AMG gt63 and a turbo s
you are dumb turbo s is a 280k car amg gt63 is 150k
GT3 for looks and performance , AMG for interior styling
I’d choose the original, I don’t like those angry grills at all…
16:26 The manual gearbox looks very similar to the PDK in the GT3, the only real difference being the engravings on the gear lever - so here it's the PDK, just to let you know :)
PS Porsche GT3 with a manual gearbox is the right choice, so I can only agree with you
Congrats on your new car❤️
#SaveTheManuals
I’m going with either a GT3 S/T with a beautiful 7 speed manual short shift perfect for curvy roads or a Turbo S a Jack of all trades…I fine the interior in the AMG a bit meh too much screen not enough physical buttons I’d say honestly a Lexus LC500 is a great third option
Actually, the manual in the S/T is six speed. Only manual is available.
Would love to see the GT's cabin and tech inside the 911.
Flat six naturally aspirated; all day, every day!
Nothing can beat a Porsche . 🐐
That's not true
Ntn can beat a Porsche 💯
This is the closest match up yet. I don't know which one I would buy. Would have to test drive both. Even on styling I'm not sure which I prefer.
Agree, even on styling these are tough choices. Ginger or Mary Ann?
I'd take Porsche 911 Turbo S, AWD, 650hp, 800nm torque, 2.7s to 100km/h. Stunning piece of engineering 😍
I would love to see more reviews on the accessible European car brands like Peugeot, Skoda, Dacia, Opel, Fiat, Citroen. Unfortunately, we lost Seat.
What happened with Seat?
@@damyr55Israel found a Hamas base under it.
Those aren't sold in North America
@@Xiahoudlol
@@ld9387so nothing is lost and the Americans are mad as usual?
If I have to look at it, I think the Merc is the winner by a hair. But if I’m in the drivers seat then it’s the beetle every day of the week.
That’s not even a competition
Beautiful cars
The Merc wins
Amg sound is second to none
Mercedes looks better in year 1 of the release, the porsche looks better every year after
The 911 hands downs 💯
Neither, because you can't afford it, and neither can the chat LOL
There is no substitute. Porsche all day. There really isn’t as per money/performance/usability/style/driving experience. You need to go McLaren to get the better performance and even then McLaren are more expensive and not the same level of usability and reliability.
I’d choose the Mercedes as it’s new. The 911 has been around for a long time and everyone’s got one
The 992 just came out it has different front vents and rear headlights it's easy to tell its new
@@G82Watts But most people will think that’s a 911. But when they see the Mercedes they will think what’s that? That’s new
@@fredsalfa alot of mercedes have had that long nose body style it's just the headlights that look different.. so not really. Seeing a newer model 911 compared to old is obvious in person
new is only temporary. Before long it won't look new and the 911 will still be a more beautiful, timeless design, and I don't care if everyone else has one because you can spec them out to be individual like crazy lol. I'd never buy a car based on the fact that other people have them, that seems silly, I buy a car for me, not for people to see me in it - but the two people I know who have an AMG... they both care a lot about what other people think and want to be seen. Maybe MB knows that and tries to keep appealing to that. just my opinion
@@G82Watts922 was launched in 2018
For the safety issue with wet tires, I would choose the FR car....AMG GT. Also, I don't like double chin (front adjustable air dam) of 911.
That 0-60 is 911 Turbo S
Analog gauge looks/feels more quality over cheap cartoony looking screen gauge clusters
911 may be lighter but the GT looks more aggressive + better interior not to mention Mercedes has the most advanced technology in any car and one of the safest brands on the road. Benz hands down 💯
Comparing AMG GT with GT3 RS is stupid. GT3 RS is a track car for streets!
From rear 3/4 they look very very similar. I’d take both
I think the engine wise this Benz is a competitor of Turbo S nor GT3.
I would kill for a 992 911 but man, amg did a great job with the GT wow.
great choice... there is nothing more to teach you wise one
Porsche 100%
You used GT3 RS stats not GT3 stats when comparing to the Amg GT 63
Porsche has been 'tweaking' and improving virtually all aspects of the car
for more years than I care to remember. Handing of the 911, in all kinds of
roadway configurations, just can't be beat. How do you compete with something
that has the pedigree of this car from a driver's standpoint. Have spoken to pro
driver's here and in Europe, and they all prefer driving a 911 over everything else.
When showing the specs you brought up the 911 GT3RS specs against the AMG GT but kept saying you’re comparing it to the GT3. Reason I bring this up is because the 0-60 is 3.4 seconds not 2.7 for the GT3
i'm a BMW fan but holy crap Merc has won in the looks department this gen. BMW lost their damned minds with their designs. The Porsche here definitely won me over after looking at the car. I didn't think it looked amazing at first but it's a timeless look. AMG GT looks so smooth
Benz is still trying to catch up…
They were playing a different game, so they are a bit behind Porsche, but I love the competition. Bring it on! We all benefit.
Although the new AMG GT is brilliant in design, but Porsche all the way! Not only for the Beaty of it, but It has soul!
Both are beautiful but man $150,000+ for Benz is wild $100,000 or less please
I'd probably look for a used GT C, (but I'd choose the new GT over a 911, too)... but if I was actually spending on these, I'd go LC500.
I'm not looking to win any races. LC500 is a sculpture on wheels, for the long run.
My dream spec Porsche coast $257,056
If it was a comparison between the and a 911 turbo or something I might take the amg but comparing to a gt3!? Gotta be the Porsche surely
I have a 992 GT3 Touring and for a drive to a cup of coffee I fully agree. But I think the GT3 is the wrong 992 to compare with. It should be a 992 GTS or a 992 Turbo to be compared. The GT3 is the second best car I ever drove, but it is not suitable for everyday's use like the NEW AMG GT 4WD. Drive a GT3 once in a traffic jam, and you know what I mean 😂.
But thank you very much for the informative comparison... helps me with the decision for my new car.
Yes, this is it. I have taken my 911 Turbos, GT3s on road trips, through heavy, slow traffic. Didn't enjoy it. But a quick coffee or dinner run, yes, great fun. But now as an old guy, I want a more chill (585hp) experience, so I went with the AMG.
Porsche all day for me however modern Porsches have way too long front overhang past the front wheel base.
GT3 is more expensive than AMG, If I had this much money I would go for AMG with V8 plus no one can beat Mercedes service centres in every city
Both beautiful car, but the Mercedes is a lot more special and appealing inside and outside.
100% 992 perfect balance from sideview
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Easy choice for me. The option on getting a manual transmission.
Any thoughts on the new Honda Prelude?
I'm genuinely surprised he hasn't covered it. I think its a solid design! At first glance it does have some Toyota in the front end, but after watching several videos of it, that's kind of gone away for me.
@@The1SSGrantI agree. With the headlights/light bar it’s tough to get away from new prius/camry comparisons but that roofline is gorgeous. I’m honestly just happy somebody’s still making coupes.
Mercedes has been making more track oriented cars than Porsche, btw I have a 2018 GT3 but I must admit the Mercedes is more special
The biggest problem with Mercedes-Benz cars is that they do not retain their value. After using it for a period of time, you will lose a lot of money.
Meaningless discussions with relevance to only a few ... I like driving CARS and not computers on 4 wheels, so E36 or E39 with inline 6 engines would be my favorite - on the Nurburgring :-)
Exterior. Mercedes. Interior Porsche
AMG GT is like scarlet johanson and GT3 is like Elizabeth Olson. I pick Elizabeth all day.
The problem with porsche is that the quality has really decreased, lots of cheap plastic inside and outside and the leather is actually fake
Excellent review, but these are apples and oranges. The Merc is a Grand Tourer. The 911 is a sports car. Yes, the Merc is very sporty Grand Tourer, but they are different cars for different use cases. I know because I have both. If you want seat of the pants, asphalt grabbing sports car control: 911. If you want awesome power, style, and some bad boy behavior once in a while: Merc. You can't go wrong between these two.
That V8 is what the 911 is missing, oh and Mercedes does make the best interiors in the market.
The instrument panel in the Mercedes’ can be described in one word.
HIDEOUS !!!
It’s what I would expect if I let my kids play in the car……”Hey…..who left their IPad in daddy’s car ?”
Flat 6 is quicker than V8. Thats insane
You're working with "on paper" stats.
The cars perform differently in the real world.
AMG tend to exaggerate their stats and Porsche usually understate.
I don’t really get the comparison, an over 4,000lbs GT vs an Entry level race car for the street on a mountain road….
There’s only one right choice for that scenario
The Merc depreciation will be high as no one will be looking for one in 5 years - the Porsche will always be collectible and its clearly the better car.
I'd take a car that is Porsche's direct competitor to the Mercedes, the 911 Turbo S 992 Model.
It becomes a no Brainer when comparing the apples.
911 being 911 and amg gt slowly evolving into a 911...Kudos amg