True Crime: The Dark Side of Australian Society | Full Episode
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- On a September night in 1986, two police officers climbed through a barbed-wire fence beside the F4 freeway at Minchinbury in Sydney's west. They were accompanied by two teenage boys who guided them to the edge of a shallow dam where the beams from torches outlined the body of a young woman lying in the mud. She was later identified as nineteen-year-old Sydney bank clerk, Janine Balding.
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The names of the criminals are: Bronson Blessington, Matthew Elliott, Stephen 'Shorty' Jamieson, Wayne Wilmot and Carol Ann Arrow. Australia might believe in their "reformation", but I do not!
potocatepetl as an Australian I can assure you that the majority of us wanted them locked away for the term of their natural lives.. Janine was more worthy than all of these creatures put together.
“Mr Baldwin said, this year, they attended a parole hearing for another member of the gang, Wayne Lindsay Wilmot, who was given a lesser sentence and released in about 1998, but subsequently jailed again for kidnapping and sexually assaulting another woman.” Proves that your belief has bearings.
They should have been executed. I personally believe in executing even juveniles if they murder someone even though society does not. I would even flip the switch to fry a criminal without giving their suffering a second thought. The criminal doesn't give their victims suffering a second thought. Just like I wouldn't give blowing a burglars head off a second thought if they broke in my home.
@@joshuahull9982 Just because they're children" does nit negate the heinous crime they committed. I also don't believe in "Nit Guilty Due to Being Insane." I think that's the biggest crock there is...here again, insanity does not negate the crime. As far as them being young people should realize that even five inch rattlesnakes are venomous and can kill you...in fact, their venom is stronger than a full grown rattler. Much like the poison inside these little brain damaged bastards....
Well and if the justice system fail on innocents what’s are you waiting for take justice in your own hands, is not that hard to provoque those beasts and kill them in self defense
You just cannot imagine the terror these poor women must have gone through, & being assaulted in the worst way a woman can be. it’s absolutely heartbreaking.
Very well said.
My heart goes out to you 🙏
Her poor mother will be haunted with this for the rest of her life. I almost feel worse for her. And the victim that got away clearly has guilt that she couldn’t stop the 2nd. It just continues to spider outward like broken glass :(
The Police should have gone to investigate immediately with the very first report.
The MOPs did better than the PO's did trying to protect others.
PO's should have made a bit more of an effort to drive around for the next few hours, I'm thinking.
But hindsight is, of course, 20/20.
So I may be wrong.
The brother's anger and pain at losing his older sister. He truly loved her and I can feel his devastation. :(
And his devastation comes courtesy of a society that won’t stand up to those freaks among us who can’t live a civilized existence.
Can’t watch. This is too sick. The kids are sick and the society is sick
Me either. I've never been able to get through this. I couldn't get through the Anita Cobby episode either. Just too sad, too disturbing, and too awful knowing there's nothing we can do to help these lovely young women.
But you must! This is reality! Evil exists in the world. And must be combated.
Referring to thg them as KIDS?? I don't believe so those are NOTHING LESS THAN LOWLIFE MONSTERS
@@sgdgsc3236 exactly, they decided to act like adults then they should be treated and punished as ones!
Breaks my heart that first victim who "wonders if she could've done more"...
Honey, most in your situation (had they reported it at ALL) would've waited until the next day, since "nothing really happened"... forget about ALSO swinging back to the station to make sure the group had gone, AND then going back to the police to report another stranger being harrassed!
You did GREAT... maybe the case would never have been solved without your input.
10 years...and they let him out early?..WTH.....He then goes on to rape, rob 4 other women?....He is eligible for parole in 19 years.....these b'stards should have been given the death sentence for what they did!....Australia's criminal justice system is a real croc.....The sentences are ridiculous....Poor Janine, being violated by this pack of rabid dogs...:/
Carmel Ellis Totally agree with you.
Agreed, Wtf does Australia think about those Bullshit sentences
Law is not justice, judges are often clueless, short prison sentences are an insult to all decent people,. Life for 1st degree murder, a basic life, deter - visitation from professional staff only, books for entertainment, basic food and needs. Less sympathy for perpetrators and proper justice for victims and their loved ones.
I think they'll only take this guy seriously as a criminal if "it" rapes and murders about a thousand women first. One to five victim just doesn't seem enough. It would be nice if the next victims are one of their own kins. That'll probably open their minds and eyes and teach them. 🙄
But if the laws were not to light , probably he whould have killed this 4 women instead of just rape and stole from them ...
So difficult question, more rapes and less death, or more death and less raped?
Why are they blocking the 22-year-old, he was of age when this crime occurred, I hate when they protect the guilty the sick and depraved, Even the minors
IM SURE SOCIETY PROTECT THE GUILTY
WHAT TO GAIN BY
THAT..YOU DONT LOOSE REPRESENTATION OF CIVIL RIGHTS AFTER EH CRIME..THE SAME RIGHTS ?YOU BE SCREAMIN WHEN SISTER BUSTED.FOR LIVING.OF.THE AVAIL OF DALLIANCE WALKERS
RIGHT TO EH LAWYER
& NO COMMENTS
That's Australia for you, full of Liberals who care only about criminals, never about the crime victims or their families.
Welcome to the Land of Liberals, where Criminals are worshiped and victims and their families are ignored. And of course, all of the future victims of the Criminals let out early by Liberals don't even register. Yes, folks, this is the Land of Liberals.
@@KristenHammerback-pk5wy ??? follow the money - where does it go? conservatives / men.
Amelie Lopez 👈🥴
A woman reports that she was almost held at knife point for her money and the police don’t think it’s worth going to check things out at the parking lot where it happened?!
Oh.. ok 👌
🤦♀️!!
And then after the first victim sees the same assailants again, witnessing another women's abduction, notifying police yet again... After finally finding the correct car-park, the police don't find evidence of an abduction. That's whats most likely left after an abduction, a Missing person! They didn't then follow up with first victim and pursue this lead that same night!
to bad the couple who went back and seen the gang around the girl maybe if they honked made some noise they would of scared them of.
@@chriskolov9968 Smartest reply yet, could have saved a life
Incompetent cops
@@norsefan3276 They would simply have moved on to another victim as they did when the first attempt failed. It may have saved Janine's life but not the life of some other girl.
The police dropped the ball big time. The poor girl who reported it and the victim's family are left heartbroken.
I think the thugs and the car would of already been gone if the police went to the right place
That’s right! The couple could have pressed their horn so loud to scare those criminals away!
The police betrayed the trust of the public by not acting immediately when the couple went to the office the first time. They had to know there were multiply car parks, why didn't they cover them all. Dropped the ball indeed, they dropped the young woman's life, the head man should be thinking about this daily, that's where the buck stops!
gumbess disgusting that you are blaming them, they didn’t commit the crime, did they? You forget that the man had a broken leg so is already vulnerable and the woman knew they had a knife and she probably thought they all had knives. You can’t argue with a group of youths with knives. They did what they thought was right at the time, the police should have gone and checked it out the first time. Shouting at one man from your car is a whole lot different than handling a bunch of crazy youths with knives.
They sure did.
I hate the anonymity system sometimes. I get that they’re technically ‘protecting minors’, but if they’re big enough to do this to another human, they’re big enough to be named and deal with the consequences, and judgement from the media and general public!!! Absolute pigs
I found myself in a similar position before, saw these dodgy guys hanging around my car from distance at night near a subway station in Edmonton, Instinct told me to go back to the platform and waited for another train to the next stop and took a cab home. came back during the day (afternoon) when the area was a lot more busy to pick my car up.
Exactly what I would have done..
criminals seam to have more rights than victims...why naming the victim if you not allowed to mention the killers...age should not matter.
The fact that they're concealing the identity of these monsters because they're supposed minors is just gross
Name goin to change anything..young offender act must be ALL across board
Not by selection of seperate..OUR SOCIETY MAKES RULE
LOVE THE SAUDI WAY
U GOTTA TAKE THE FULL PACKAGE OF THEIR WAYS..NOT JUST HANDS OFF,YOUR SISTER MUST STAY HOME N TO BE.CHAPERONE
YOU DONT HAVE ROAMIN SEXGANGCHILDREN
not anymore they're not. a quick google search of the case will tell you exactly who they are
@@lauracamilleri2072 My thoughts exactly. 👍
@@ostapbendervan7874 freak
Such a shame the police didn’t listen when the First Lady reported being almost robbed at knife point should of looking into into right away
This is so depressing. Her parents are very brave. But poor Janine's brother seems to have taken it the hardest. I pray he and the entire family can find peace and joy somehow because I'm sure Janine would not want any of them to suffer.
How do people like this ever get out of prison?
Whats sad is if the police would have taken the report of first girl serious, this girl would not have been murdered!
Very useless, lazy police
Not considered serious enough to send a patrol car!! WTH?
lazy men
Thank you. Heartbreaking. It could have been stopped.💔😿
Why oh why is murder not punished by death???????
Because of the possibility of reform. But there can only be reform if there is genuine repentance. In this case, there was none at all.
Also, death is not humiliation. Sometimes these killers think they're heros. Facing death unrepentant. Often swearing & cursing. Humiliation only follows castration. Then they will be truly "sorry". And will never re-offend.
@@missasinenomine Who even does castration> We have been saying that for decades and I have never heard that being done as punishment. So death is a surety that they will never offend again.
@@lykri3350 Yes, very true! If you're dead you can't re-offend! Fairly logical. I've never heard of castration either.
But in these cases, castration would not only be a punishment, but also a treatment. These male's lives (& others!) are being (have been ) ruined by their testicles. So they should be removed. That is, of course, if there is no death penalty, which there isn't. You've been saying this for decades? Hmm, interesting.
Ly Kri they hold out hope. Ha, ha, ha
They are soulless psychopaths they should be locked away forever in an insane asylum.
you CAN NOT REHAB this sad mess; start sooner.
hey aussie's, your sentencing is too short for murderers.
It's life without parole. How much longer can you get?
Every 1 of them should have been charged as adults & never let out of jail again & that's not rite them hiding their names .Those boys are all scums .
That brother is devastated. I feel his families pain through watching this. It’s terrible what they did. I’m so sorry people could do these things. 7 years to go and hurt other people. What kind of justice system is this? Same as we have. Not really justice at all.
l just cried. l never do this. but this story... man. l dont know...
It seems like allowing these kids anomity encourages violence like this
Normal to react that way but i think it has to do with trying to make sure it remains a fair trail. When the anger of the public becomes too much often trails are held somewhere else so to assure a fair trail. But if you think of it that is again in the advantage of the killers.
Kristine and Barry did everything right. Immediately reported to the police, drove by the park port themselves, then went back to report. Bravo to them! And yes, the police although made an unfortunate mistake in going to the wrong car park, they messed up by not going with them the first time they were notified.
the police are not interested in doing their jobs only the pay cheque
Exactly
It is so sad that Janine's fate was to come across these animals......Why does Australia have such lax laws?
Please do not insult animals. An animal wouldnt do this. They are monsters.
Death penalty warranted
Geez Australia..still be the worst on dealing the crime case ????? FIX THE JUSTICE SYSTEM PLEASE
Wow that was one of the saddest stories I’ve ever heard & I listen to a lot of true crime.
Same. Horrendous isn’t it
Such a Beautiful young lady with a Beautiful smile' Reminds me of Princess Diana.
What a tragedy " my heart goes out to her Family
For goodness sake what has P D. Got to do with this Never wished her ill BUT.she needed a psychiatric hospital .She was from childhood mentally unstable Janine was. neither bulimic anorexic She never broke up.married men's marriages phoning them incessantly etc etc .Some if it way before her husband sought comfort from.a woman that had & has much more in common with this. mutilated young woman If I were her family this sort of unthoughtful unemoayhic remark would not merely infuriate me but also make me wonder about the writers IQ . a tragic tragic story One if fat too many Yes thrtr are those born evil ., inherantly under enable .We need an island far from.land surrounded by fierce sesd where they can play Lord of the aD lies together !
Anna I think it might be that Mary Lee meant she had a beautiful smile like PD.
They will do it again. Watch out Australia
T Porchia totally. Under such circumstances, death penalty is absolutely necessary.
No, not serious enough. They had a knife but not serious enough!!!! Typical cops again. God help us all!!!
Exactly threatening with knives is not serious enough.. Oh man... What a brilliant police...
Well, you don't know what emergency calls they had ongoing at the time. Maybe gun crimes. Right then they may have had armed-robbery calls, etc.
@@quickchris10comcast ...or perhaps playing cards and drinking coffee, or out giving tickets to hapless motorists, lol!
Somebody gets a knife pulled on them in an attempted robbery and it’s not considered serious enough!
Here in South Africa it's a daily thing sad but true
That’s not a knoife! In Australia it’s a mere toothpick, mate!
Psychopaths do not become psychopaths at majority. They exhibit behaviors long before, as children. Psychopathy cannot be reformed.
I don't know why they are using the alphabet instead of their names, they are named on the internet.
They were named early in this thread.
That way if someone hunts down the bastards and kills them the show can say it wasn't their fault.
Why did that couple drive for help after seeing these same thugs intimidating another woman. I understand the guy had a broken leg, but wish he would have at least driven behind Janine's car...hopes of scaring them off.
Or at least stayed in the car and rang the police there and then 😔
@@leadaniel4236 I know! The fact that they were so concerned and determined to go to the police station, and then drive back to see them harassing her. Unbelievable! The police officer who took their report should have sent a patrol car... better yet follow the couple to the same car park, since they went to the wrong one after the couple reported these punks again!
@@mba-okay2583 it's awful as something so silly, so untimely could of saved this young lady, I haven't even finished the documentary yet but I'm gutted already 😔
Lea Daniel this was back in the 80s, people didn’t have cell phones
@@samanthamyers4857 didn't even think about that one, fair play. I still think more could of been done though.
“The little animal looking bloke!” 😂the only thing I could giggle at in this sad, horrendous event
I am heart broken for this dear family ! This crime is unforgivable !! Their behaviour during court should carry a punishment of its own, no privileges no visits!! Prayers of love and support to all family and friends of the Baldings 💝
Homeless teenagers! Wtf ! Something is wrong with the society
Youth who do not want to live by parents rules, often run away and these do not seem like respectful teens.
Either that, or they run away because they were getting the shit beaten out of them at home, and in turn, beating the shit out of other people is all they know how to do. Cycle of fucking abuse taken to the brutal extreme endpoint.
Yeah...their parents.
RIP Janine
How can kids do such things.. how can kids that age even live on the streets? Where is the system that’s supposed to help them?
And if the police just acted when the first was alerted by the other woman , or went to the right parking place at once.. so much could have been different..
I have just recently come across your show and absolutely live it. Crime shows are my favorite but there are very few that grab me from the first episode and yours did. Thank you for a great show. I'm totally addicted.
As long as someone shows up at those parole hearings , they should never get out. And the 2 in the car are just as guilty , they knew right from wrong. They didn't try to stop it or tell anyone after ...this was heartbreaking.
Rapists murderers should be barred from anonymity, no matter what their age.
Why did the couple leave her knowing she was just harassed by the same kids
Didn't you listen the partner had a leg disability and couldn't do much?
If anything the 1st lady reported to the cops immediately and they were reluctant to act?
And a few minutes later, they were on their second victim?! Smh
I BLAME THE COPS & THE WEAK JUSTICE SYSTEM
Some people think that every kids can be redeemed, I don't. These are evil souls and can't believe that they released one of them. And he did it again.
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@@claudineschultz8935 I don't see your comment.
Absolutely agree. People seem to have a real problem understanding children can absolutely be capable of sick twisted evil. They can
Dreadful story - and the Cobby parents just brilliant once again.
Totally dispicable!!!! Also those lazy cops should have gotten off their behinds when Chrsitine made her complaint!!!!!
What an incredibly sad and tragic story. I feel so terribly sad for the families.
The law is too lenient on juvenile delinquents! Lawmakers should wake up, that’s idealistic!
Let them pay the first time they break the law, that would be a good lesson for everyone like them!
Everyone of those people, including the woman/girl in the front seat of the car, should have at least gotten life in prison. Your punishment obviously does not work, as you let him out early so he could do it again. Second time, electric chair. Some people are truly evil, and will never be normal. Any woman that could just sit there and do nothing, is just as bad as the men who did the deed. If the poor women that have been murdered had had a gun, they'd still be alive.
My heart broke for her mum,dad and brother :( . Such a horrific thing to happen to such a lovely family.
The police should NEVER conclude a report of a woman being assaulted by a gang as unimportant! It enrages me that they are so apathetic! It is their F'n job to investigate and protect people! It would have saved her life if they went right away to investigate! 😠
It’s a reenactment yet it’s horrific. I cannot imagine the horror Janine has gone through. RIP 🪦
Shorty Jamison looks quite literally like a caveman, something that belongs in a museum display showing an extinct line of hominids.
If you have done a crime then you should be named and shamed.
This is justice: Teen laughs before judge hands down 65-year prison sentence
Some people just can't be rehabilitated, and tax payer money should not be allowed to keep them comfy in jail.
This is so cruel,I am shivering because I am so angry.May she rest in peace🌻🌻🌻
I wish this narrator did more of these … I truly enjoy listening to him …I am Canadian but really enjoy the Aussie crime shows and especially the narrator in this story … I think I’ve listened to all of the ones he’s done … unless he’s done more than just the few I’ve seen …my favourite is the narrator on forensic files but this man is the next best thing 😊
Lock them up in an institution forever!
David is still in unbearable pain... Human Rights fights to remove death sentence but those families who went through this kind of horrible crimes will know that death sentence should be stay on....
And here we go “it’s not considered serious enough to send a car”.... Keep believing that government will protect you. Keep sacrificing your daughters to that almighty idea.
Is there a test to get into the police department? Not bashing them just asking a very obvious question.
He said his job is the “preservation of life.” How ironic that they couldn’t send a car.
This is so heartbreaking. It has me in tears.
GOOD WORK POLICE????.....should off gone the first time.....to much paper work A?...disgracefull
I feel sick to my stomach 😣😭 poor Janine 💔💔😭
They should never,, ever released. Or else justice is in vain.
40:00 brings back memories of coming home from work on the train and been in awe of the double decker train cabs ❤..We don’t have them in England
So the woman who was almost assaulted was scared enough to not just call the police, but to actually go in to make a statement? Then when LE decides to ignore her worry, and she later actually witnesses the abduction of the woman who will shortly end up murdered? Yet still LE fail to adequately respond to the situation. If they had asked enough questions and took what the first woman reported seriously when she reported her incident, LE would've known exactly where to go. Or couldn't they send 2 cars, one to each side of the station?
Every time I watch a crime show from Australia the police are so lazy and incompetent, I sure hope this has improved since the 1980’s.
Just drove by them while they were surrounding a woman?! Could have AT LEAST parked in front of them with your brights on so they wouldn't do anything......... some people have no common sense. And crazy they gave them life with no parole but 90% of these I see on here with multiple people killed and torture get 25 years, 15 years.....
Horror...pure horror
I hope they are still in jail and stay there until the rest of their days!
"legendary detectives" I agree they did a great job. But the Balding's wouldn't have needed their services if the station/beat cops had taken the initial report of "menace with a knife" seriously. What'd they think? The delinquents would give up & go sleep under a tree? Christine & her boyfriend (not law enforcement) felt strongly enough to go back & witnessed what cops should have intervened upon.
This is one of the hardest stories I’ve heard. Barbaric
not only should they be named and jailed for life. they should get daily punishment aswell
If the police would have taken the right information about the exact location of the carpark, this woman might not have become a victim. Slack and sloppy work!
“Let’s get out of here before I do something drastic”
Criminals are criminals, I really don't like that "children are not criminals" thing. A criminal has no age, teenagers might "act dumb" but they do know right from wrong, and therefore should be liable for their actions.
What most people, especially those with a rather soft heart, or even with a political agenda, often mistake about is that they cannot differentiate between the "capacity to commit a crime" and "conscious awareness"(or something).
For example, a four year old would not commit a crime NOT because that four year old cannot differentiate between right and wrong(THEY CAN DIFFERENTIATE RIGHT FROM WRONG), but because a four year old is physically helpless and fully dependent on his/her parents, which of course makes that four year old NOT capable of carrying out a crime like robbery by themselves.
However, a teenager, or even as young as 9-10 year old, is physically capable of carrying out a crime and that 9-10 year old is also completely aware between right and wrong, robbing, physical assault, raping and killing are pretty obvious right-wrong scenario. So if a 9-10 year old and up who commits a crime should be charged. And yes, there are crimes like rape and murder committed by kids as young as 9-10 years old.
Sure, have all your fill of human rights goodness when that kid commits petty crimes like shoplifting and stealing small things, however, for more serious crimes, they should be charged and arrested accordingly, if they continue to be let out, they will only be exposed to more corruption from their friends, guardians, peers, groups, environment, etc., and they should be taken away from all those bad influences before they commit very serious crimes.
For heinous crimes like rape, murder, homicide and even armed robbery, they should be locked up, they may be far too gone for rehabilitation.
I'm talking from the personal experience of my country, minors below the age of 18 have COMPLETE IMMUNITY from the law, made up by some stupid politicians who is most probably trying too hard to appear overprotective for his kids. A decade after that stupid law was made, children and teenagers have been used by the illegal drug traders as mules, mules that police cannot detain and charge, kids that after a 24 hour booking gets released into the streets and go back to being mules for illegal drugs.
Especially now in the age of smartphones and internet, kids and teenagers are fully aware that they can get away with murder, so they abuse this law and heinous crimes committed by minors have skyrocketed.
Sure, the story of Les Miserable about a man imprisoned for stealing bread might have tugged on heartstrings all over the world, but laws have developed so radically under that "lesson" that even rape and murder can be made null and criminals get to enjoy their freedom.
I dont know when his episode was made but their identity is no longer protected. Bronson Blessington, the 14 year old, even has some religious minister campaigning for his release... its sick...
Oh wow, her brother’s emotions just made me emotional….you can feel his hurting.
I was in Paris, France for three years and I rode the trains. I never saw really any gang or teenage shadowy activity. It seemed pretty safe. Why does Australia have such a problem?
Many suburban areas are very isolated, coupled with a deeply misogynistic culture. I live in Europe now, but lived in Australia for years and seldom felt safe on my own.
This broke my heart may she rest in love where no one else can ever hurt her again. Fighting back tears 😭
Such a wonderful family who loved and cared for their family, to lose a beautiful young woman to such low life’s is beyond me, they should rot in jail, they could never give back anything to attempt to make up for what they did, hope brother and family can find peace.
Thanks.
Towards the end of this video we are told of yet another instance of a parole board which , by releasing a monster into society, was complicit in facilitating more criminal acts by him. The time has come for parole boards to be held responsible for the decisions they make.
Seems Australia STILL has a long way to go to distance themselves from their beginnings as a land ruled by criminals!
I can't follow this, what a nightmare for the family.
You can’t protect someone’s identity just because they’re young if the crime they commit is this serious.
Real poor police work again😑
What a brave mom she see the evil in these little monsters that murdered her daughter so horribly bless her heart brave brave mom
So basicly police wait until its too late before they feel its serious enough to do anything. Useless
Good God how trashy can people get.
in the 90's australia took a turn for the better, got ambitious, went for the olympics and never looked back. now we, the homeland, struggle with basics and took 2 decades+ to host an olympics!
I'd worry more about your coming civil war with the Muslims than the Olympics if I were you... enjoy it Britain, you voted for it
I fail to see how the Olympics has to do with this, you still have not addressed your legal system. None of the bad guys joined the olympics, The good guys are already there, the olympians acccording to your thinking. Choosing not to look back or forward leaves you in the same place, the evil people are still there, you just don't look at it.
Jesus, what a mess. Pigs !!!
I am shocked that Australia ha so many kids on the streets. I thought that was a civilized country. I guess I was wrong.
Depraved brutes who use their little dicks for brains
Those people over there are vicious and vile individuals..
Vi Ro- The kids, & adults, living on the streets is happening every where. It's not just Australia. I agree it's not civilized. USA
Had that couple not left the scene when they saw those kids intimidating her she would not have died.
Why would the one guy be let out of prison?