Classical Composer Reacts to BLACK SABBATH: CHILDREN OF THE SEA (featuring DIO) | The Daily Doug
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In this edition of #thedailydoug, I'm returning to music from the Ronnie James Dio era of Black Sabbath. We're listening to Children of the Sea both for #metalmonday and for #earthday. It's ahard rocking tune with a great ecological message in its lyrics. I hope you enjoy!
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I’ve always thought Dio should’ve won a Grammy for Best Male Vocal for this song.
what won over this? 10/10 lyrics, melody, and performance.
Yeah this is killer. The Grammy's are pretty meaningless and political.
@@shacozzi4888 At the Grammys for music released in 1980, Billy Joel won the Best Rock Vocal Performance, Male for his Glass Houses album. At that time, there were no awards for metal and only four awards for "rock" (Best Rock Vocal Performance, Female/Male, Best Rock Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocal, and Best Rock Instrumental Performance). All four of those categories were new as of the prior year, and the Grammys had ZERO interest in anything metal related. Billy Joel beat out Jackson Browne, Lenny Loggins, Paul McCartney and Bruce Springsteen (the award was generally given to solo artists). The award for duo/group with vocal was won by Bob Seger & the Silver Bullet Band (for the album Against the Wind), which beat out Blondie (nominated for the song "Call Me"), Pink Floyd (nominated for The Wall), The Pretenders (for the song "Brass in Pocket") and Queen (for "Another One Bites the Dust"). I would be shocked if anything from H&H was even submitted for consideration.
40+ years later to me "Heaven & Hell" is still a masterpiece of music production & engineering.
Martin Birch did justice to the music. Everything is warm, clear and LOUD. So many layers, so clear.
Timeless
Heaven and Hell is easily in my top 3 or 4 Black Sabbath songs. Easily my favourite song with Tony and RJD, “Heaven and Hell” the band, there’s some wicked tunes there too. The H&H album is incredible. Iommi and Dio were meant to work together, just as much as Iommi and Ozzy were.
Ive always loved the sound on this album. Imo Paranoid had the best production and mix.
I dont like the new remaster ( I think its like 2021), Of H& H, it changes the tone too much.
Martin Birch did so many other classic albums as well, Rainbow, Deep purple, Black sabbath (Mob rules as well) and Iron maiden etc, he was a true master of his craft. Rock In Peace Martin Birch and of course also my favourite singer ever Ronnie James Dio.
@@Stefan- He produced some great Blue Oyster Cult albums too.
I think Tony remembers that while Ozzy's vocal lines would always follow the riff/melody, he was surprised that Ronnie would instinctively go against it, adding another layer
Yes Ozzy did that. Far from always, but sometimes so exact that it was kind of stupid. Never liked Iron man as a grownup for that reason. Dio on the other hand does what every other singer does.
Love the way Ozzy did it.
Loved those 2 early 80s albums Sabbath did with Dio!
Never liked that nails on a chalkboard Ozzy shriek!
I appreciate Ozzy in classic Sabbath and undoubtedly, there are some classic tracks. Dio was definitely the best singer they ever had and a great writer.
Only my second concert (after the Highway To Hell tour!) was the Heaven and Hell tour. Ronnie was so spot on and even the older numbers sounded fresh.
This is such a masterpiece of an album
Facts!
This is just another example of proof that metal music is classical music with electricity added. Great song.
DIO All the Fool's Sailed Away
That track gives me the chills, such a classic.
This mix is Martin Birch's magic. The legendary producer who worked with Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, and with Iron Maiden for a long time!
Don’t forget Rainbow and Whitesnake. Absolutely legendary producer/engineer, responsible for most of the best metal albums ever made.
Hes best production was "Rising" by Rainbow 1976
I sometimes wonder what Born Again would have been like had he produced it.
I’m not a great fan of Born Again, and not just because the production wasn’t very good. I don’t think Gillian’s voice suits Sabbath, for a start, but the composition isn’t the best, either. Less melodious than they usually are.
Geezer is such a massively under-rated bass player
I hear live with sabbath in argentina. Uf a monster geezer.
The dynamic of the chemistry that Ronnie James Dio brought to Black Sabbath reinvigorated the band and brought them back to their roots - the heavy riffs, huge melodies... ominous lyrics... Everything fans loved about Black Sabbath but were missing in Ozzy's last years (Not because of Ozzy - he had little to do w/ his last Sabbath records) However, it also sounded like a different band.
The way the original Black Sabbath worked w/ Ozzy was that Tony Iommi (guitar) would have an idea... Geezer (bass) and Bill (drums) joined in to jam the riff idea... Ozzy would come up w/ vocal melodies... and then, Geezer would have to write the lyrics w/ Ozzy's melodies.
But by 1979, that dynamic was not working because of drugs and alcohol... Geezer was burnt out and so was Bill... Ozzy didn't like what he was hearing and his ideas were being rejected constantly. After months of nothing being recorded, Tony Iommi finally made the decision to fire Ozzy Osbourne; he had met Ronnie James Dio in L.A. and they talked about writing new music together.
Ronnie James Dio had just been fired from the band Rainbow in 1979 and he was also looking for a new gig... Black Sabbath had been an inspiration and he was excited at the chance to work w/ the band... This new dynamic where Tony Iommi would play him an idea on guitar and Ronnie immediately had melodies, lyrics and his own ideas for the song seemed more productive. Geezer Butler had quit but decided to come back to Sabbath; he was ecstatic that he didn't have to write lyrics anymore... Geezer could concentrate on jamming w/ Iommi and putting his own input forward musically... Drummer Bill Ward agreed to record the drums for 'Heaven and Hell'... but he was messed up on alcohol and he revealed that he hated the band's new direction - it didn't feel right to him... So, Ward quit the band as the tour started and Vinny Appice (drums) joined the band and did the next album 'Mob Rules' in 1981 before Ronnie James Dio was sacked in 1982.
Ronnie James Dio formed the band Dio in 1983 and he was determined to carry that vision of heavy metal that Black Sabbath had w/ him... He loved the dark, heavy and aggressive elements and it was more natural to record those kinds of songs, rather than what Ritchie Blackmore was doing in Rainbow.
I was the luckiest little metalhead, when Dio returned for "Dehumanizer" and later for "The Devil you know".
I❤Dio
I seen both Mob Rules and Live Evil in Toronto
They tuned down 1/2 step for this record. Absolute masterpiece...
Does that make it E-flat, or D-sharp , they are tuned to ❓️
@@jeffschwartz8900 for me it's Eb and write it as E standard.
Sabbath tuned down for most of their albums - primarily because of Tony's fingers. He needed the strings to be more slack, and the tuning down helped with the Sabbath sound.
No metal band is going to write in G sharp minor. They are playing in A minor tuned down a half step.
Climate Change is a hoax to accomplish a Globalist power grab. Wake up!
Over and over should be next. Great bluesy song with wailing vocals and possibly one of Tonys best solos. Definitely should give it a listen
Falling Off the Edge of the World 🙂
@@Dios67 That is such an underrated song! I was so happy when Heaven and Hell (the band) played it when I saw them live in 2007.
@@Dios67Falling Off the Edge of the World is an utter diamond of a song. I'm always impatient to get to it when I listen to Mob Rules!
Overall I love Over and Over and I hear it often. But I don't like the solos. They don't really support the song. They drift from away from the songs mood, melody and its bluesy base theme.
One of my favorite Black Sabbath songs in the Ronnie James Dio era.
Absolutely adore this Sabbath song. RJD was an absolute god tier vocalist. Sadly missed 😢
The BEST MUSICAL LINEUP EVER!!! You can never go wrong with Black Sabbath and Dio!! Dio is the man!!!💜🤘
I was 17 when this came out. I fell in love with this album immediately
One of the best mixed albums ever! You can clearly hear every instrument.
One of my favorite albums by any band.
Dio Sabbath is the apotheosis of the heavy metal genre.
Sabbath w/Dio
Over and Over
Falling off the Edge of the World
"I"
Sign of the Southern Cross
Thank you for your focus and reaction.
Falling is so damn good!!!
How about Country Girl
Great stuff! And another fact which makes this even more perfect for Earth Day : the original name of Black Sabbath was Earth.
Exactly where I thought Doug was going during the intro, I was sure he was going to mention this fact :) Even happier coincidence, then that he chose it for Earth day
Also Martin Birch doing his magic!
I love your commentary, watched your videos for a couple of years now. My critique from a humble guy from Canada. The planet will be fine. Two thumbs up!
This is my favorite sabbath song, and my favorite song with Dio singing (maybe tied with heaven and hell).
Check out Falling Of The Edge Of The World from Mob Rules. A phenomenal song with many layers.
THIS is my fave DIO song of all time, thank you! I think it's a masterpeice and deserves more recognition among the other DIO "greats" (Heaven and Hell, Holy Diver, Last In Line, etc.)
Absolute banger of an album. Start to finish.
I forgot how good this song was. Dio is a legend (also sang "Butterfly Waltz", a Roger Glover song (the bass player of Deep Purple).
Its flats coz he is most probably playing guitar detuend to Eb
My favorite Dio-era Sabbath song! 🤘 You always manage to review my favorite things.
Oh, such an amazing song from Sabbath. Dio is simply one of the best vocalists of all time. Great reaction, Doug!
I saw them on this tour and they were fantastic. Rip Ronnie.
I did, too. They were phenomenal. Dio is the greatest metal singer of all time!
Old enough that the first Black Sabbath tour I saw and the first new album available was this.
I loved the older albums but this album was like Black Sabbath going from 2D to 3D.
I've said it before, "Heaven & Hell" and "Mob Rules" proved Sabbath didn't need Ozzy to make great records. But,Tony did need Ronnie.
Just as "Blizzard of Oz" and "Diary of a Madman" proved Ozzy didn't need Sabbath to make great records. But, Ozzy did need Randy Rhodes.
Laughably wrong.
Sabbath already stunk by the time technical ecstasy was released.
Dio Sabbath is cringe as it gets.
Every song is Dio doing the same vocals with watered down styx/kansas riffs.
I think you’ll find you’re in a very small minority on this thread, mate. Loved both those eras of the band (and even liked Born Again and Eternal Idol), but there’s always people who can’t get past the 1st 6 Sabbath albums. Fair enough. That’s your vie. But don’t shove it down people’s throats
Sabbath did other great records without Ronnie or Ozzy like Born Again, Headless Cross and Tyr.
Ozzy did great records without Randy like Bark At The Moon, No Rest For The Wicked and No More Tears.
@@LiamWhiskers I think perhaps it's you that are "laughably wrong", and in a very small minority! I saw Sabbath with Dio quite a few times and they were fantastic live. Also Dirty Women on Technical Ecstasy is a stone wall Sabs classic.
This is my favourite singer thank you
One of my favorite Sabbath tunes!
I’m pretty sure Tony always played tuned down after he lost his fingertips.
That is why he tuned down
First time downtuned was actually Master of reality
Tony Iommi is the greatest riff master and yet here he shows how he can play acoustically beautiful guitar as well! His great guitar playing and Ronnie’s incredible vocals combine to make some truly magical musical moments like this one!
And so finally you get to one of my absolute favorite metal songs. Ozzy is great, but Dio was fantastic. He brought philosophy and deep existential contemplation to the genre like few others before him. Maybe he was the very first to do it.
Really love the spooky ghostly sound of the end of the solo. That's the kind of "disruptive" stuff that allways was a trademark of the best Band in the world.
This was the first song they wrote together!!!
Dio also played bass on heaven and hell!!!
Great video doug.
High Doug I've been subscribed to your channel for sometime now and I always enjoy your reviews of all things music I love the way you always seem to educate your audience in some way. As for this song it's probably one of my favourite dio/Sabbath songs such a great rif and classic vocals from Ronnie keep em coming.
My favorite Dio Sabbath song as well. Reckon the best version is of the Live Evil, a bit slower and heavier and Dio's vocals are off the scale.
One of my all time favourite Dio era songs. Thanks Doug. I’d love you to do “Bible Black” and “I” at some stage, please.
🤘😎🤘
I 2nd that emotion
Can't forget about Bill Ward and Geoff Nicholls. Some of Bill's best work and Geoff adding that extra layer of atmospheric landscape. 🥁 🎹
The first song that Dio and Iommi wrote together
No one gives Geezer his props on the bass. Excellent bass riffs all around.
I believe this song is about Atlantis. The mythical island that sank into the Ocean. Not about "Earth day". whatever that is.
Everyday is Earth day. As long as that star keeps burning, and this planet keeps spinning...
Great choice Doug 👍Thanks for the amazing analysis as always!
Heaven and Hell is an immortal masterpiece and as much as I adore the (early) Ozzy phase of Sabbath, this is where all stars aligned imho. Epic. ❤
this should be awesome thank you
DIO is amazing, no doubt. My favorite hard rock/metal singer.....then again on of my favorite singers any style of music. Man, he was so amazing.
This is Top 3 Favorite Albums of Mine. And Dio is my Favorite Singer, No Offense to Ozzy.
A fantastic track and one of my favourites
I love how you added the keys into your analysis. Awesome discussion and breakdown Doug.
Please check out Black Sabbath - When Death Calls!
You need to listen to the Tony Martin era Black Sabbath which is much darker than the rest of their music. He is such an underrated singer.
This song even has a guest solo from Brian May of Queen!
++++++++++
Was blessed to see this on tour in Bristol England. Blew me away hearing Ronnie's fantastic voice, he truly was an amazing powerhouse. Deeply missed but forever in our minds
man I love this song. It very fun to listen to it, but playing the guitar riffs and the solos are...mmwah! incredible.
Please do the title track from Dio's The Last in Line. IMO its his solo career masterpiece
Takes me back to my high school days and don't forget Neon Knights.
Dio Sabbath Rules!
My favorite cut off of this album is "Neon Knights." Phenomenal!
Such an amazing song from such an amazing album.
Still the best heavy metal voice ever!
Hit every note live too!
I was a massive Dio fan in the 80's but having heard many good metal vocalists since then i am only now appreciating how good Ronnie was, at the top along with Ozzy, Bruce Dickinson
Sorry.
The trinity is
Dio
Bruce Dickinson
Rob Halford
@@michaelkruska6097 I'd put Bob Catley from Magnum in that list. czcams.com/video/YkQ7g18zIpE/video.html
@@michaelkruska6097though I'm more into Ozzy as a vocalist than Rob, I can't disagree with you, your trinity probably the best three in metal history
My 2 fav singers ever, the two Ds: DIO and Dimash! It's actually almost eerie how many similarities they have. The way they play with vowels, tones/colours, power/soft, vibrato / no vibrato, holding the notes out legato style, singing very melodically, singing with lots of dynamics, having the opera and/or classical style come through at times, etc.
1980 was truly the dawn of a new age for metal.So many great albums and bands that year. I'm told the background chorus on this song is from the same source as Supertzar. H&H was a perfect album.
Finally !!! Someone gets it. I've been screaming about all these things you just said since the first time I heard it. It's a warning of where we are going. Finally !!! Thank you Doug. I thought I was the only one that got it. RJD has been my favorite vocalist since I was a kid. I HIGHLY recommend Street Walker by Elf. Ronnie really showcases his abilities in this song, and the content is worth a listen. It's a well written song with everything from hard rock to caberet/lounge music. Very captivating.
FWIW regarding the key of the song, they're tuned down a half step and playing the song in what is normally the open A position -- great video Doug!!
The song is in the concert key of G#/Ab. But guitar and bass are tuned a half step flat. So as guitarists and bassists we think of it being in A because that's where it falls physically on a guitar tuned a half step flat.
Glad to see you becoming welcomed on CZcams.
This album means the adulthood of heavy-metal. It's heavy, dark and classy showing the world what heavy music is all about.
Thanks Doug! You hit on many points there!
Dio breathed life back into the old girl! Incredible album!
This song was originally created when Ozzy was in the band yet! So can you imagine? I would love to hear. As I love hearing Tony Martin singing Dio and Ozzy. Music is just the BEST thing.
Thanks for all metal mondays and for the love and respect for Black Sabbath, in any era, with every singer.
Every time I hear it...I'm with my buddy Patrick in his 74 4 door Impala, with the 8 track player and Jensen triaxles. Not a care in the world.
Bass line is incredible
Been nice seeing the the transition of you.
I just hope you'll be having a listen at Tony Martin era Sabbath. His vocals are alomst as good as Dio's. Certainly a much better singer than Ozzy!
Lyrically, Ronnie has a remarkably consistent point of view. Throughout his career, his lyrics advocated strength, but at the same time warned against complacency. He's a sort of avatar of vigilant stoicism.
I remember purchasing this LP from my local record shop when it was released. Great daze indeed!
I forgot how powerful that song is - brings me back to high school when I discovered that album. The energy of it makes me feel like I can sing along with him it’s just so energizing but….no way…his voice is incredible
Great sabbath song i love it
Dio live is on a whole different lvl. Should check that out as well!
That album is all killer, no filler 🤘
Absolutely fantastic song. Ronnie at his best🤘🏻
Suggestion for a future Earth Day…Devin Townsend did a song called Earth Day. Maybe I’m being a bit literal, but that seems a good fit
You should hear the live version from. their Live Evil album, Ronnie's vocals are off the charts?
Great to hear you speak out about Earth Day Doug. I think you’re spot on with your thoughts about Ronnie’s lyrics.
Such a badass album.
Oh it's over. This song and falling off the edge of the world.
Hi Doug.
How good is DIO? And adding his voice to Black Sabbath back in the 80's is like 2 peas in a pod. Insane.
But if you enjoyed that song sung by DIO, then you need to listen to my all time favourite "DIO/Black Sabbath rif".
It's called "Falling off the Edge of the World", and it's on the "Mob Rules" album.
Once again, I really enjoy your channel so PLEASE, never stop.
Cheers 😉
Black Sabbath 1968-eternity🤘
When you put the riff Lord with The Metal Voice, it's just impossible to happen nothing but masterpieces
One of my all time favorite songs. Have you reacted to "Stargazer" by Rainbow? That features Dio on vocals, Ritchie Blackmore on lead guitar and Cozy Powell on drums. If you like this song I am sure you will enjoy that one!
the live at wacken version of this song is the best
I'm always a little surprised when I hear this studio version. I think they tended to slow it down and make it more ponderous (in a good way) for live performances. The studio version races along in comparison.
More Dio is always a bonus! love Ozzy but Dio was next level, greatest singer in rock/metal 🤘
This one can move ya to tears! 🤘
For the next time there's an Earth Day Metal Monday (if not much much sooner!): Annihilator - "Stonewall". A real shredder, but also some really calm, beautiful bits. (original 1990 version)
I think the Live Evil album version of this song is even better than the studio cut!
Note: Richard also composed the music for some their hits like "Goodbye to Love," "I know I Need to be in Love" and Merry Christmas Darling" (just to mention a few). Their layered vocals were Richard's idea and done as a tribute to Les Paul and Mary Ford, singers he greatly admired. Karen DID take drumming and voice lessons, but her brother's training started at an earlier age since he was deemed as somewhat of a musical prodigy from a young age.
I was pretty young when this album came out, but was already into Black Sabbath's previous music with Ozzy. Dio brought it to another level and everyone knew it. A musician like Dio in Sabbath reinvented the band. That is an amazing feat. And as everyone knows, Dio's career was just getting started.