How To Make Black Powder Lube
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
- In this video, I demonstrate how to make your own lubricant for black-powder firearms. Be sure to subscribe to my channel for more videos. Thanks for watching!
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“Heres a great historical way to mix these two products”
*puts in microwave*
Wagon trains had really really long extension cords
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@@416loren that was just plain stupid. Everyone knows they carried gas generators.
Thank you. I'm going to make some today. With this Pandimic and staying home I need to find things to do, so far I made paper cartridges, wads, now I'm going to make homemade bore butter
Thanks for the information on how to make your own lube. I will be trying this as soon as I get the products from Amazon.
This is another very useful and informative video. You really are the best friend of a black powder shooter. Thanks for posting.
Thank you Dustin, Great Idea, I'm on it as I Speak. Best to you and your Family
Thanks very much!
Hi Dustin in a pinch I used Burt’s Bees lib balm in a small push up tube. What was nice was the tube pushed up a round 45 size disk of beeswax balm which I just sliced off and put over the bullet. You could melt some of your mix into an old chapstick tube
Excellent Info Bro. Gracias!
I love the antique historically correct microwave!
Thanks Dustin, but coming from Texas beef country I use tallow rendered from beef kidney fat mixed 50:50 with either bees wax or canning wax.It makes a good lube for both wads and bullets. Beef tallow will not get rancid either and smells better.
Thanks for your channel Dustin.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the informative video.
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
great tip !! thanks so much !
You bet! Thanks for watching!
Add a few drops of dish soap to your tallow/beeswax mixture, you will be surprised at how much easier clean up is.
I know you usually cap and ball revolvers, but I have you used the formula on ball patches. I like the simple formula. Thanks
Lots of people use it for round ball patches. Works great.
I use equal parts of Gulf Wax and petroleum jelly and a tablespoon of STP gas treatment -same recipe as my cast bullet lube. I use a .45 brass casing that has the back end sawed off and cut circles out. Then just place one on top of each seated bullet and use the ram rod to squish it onto the ball causing it to form up the sides of the cylinder and engulf the ball. Works like a charm, and it won't melt in heat and it's not a mess.
Only me who use old gun grease as my patch lube? A thin coating of that stuff on the patch and never had a problem. Slide the bullet right down and an eazz to clean
I just started experimenting with mixing Bore Butter with melted beeswax as a way to bulk up the supply. I didn't heat up the Bore Butter as I'm unsure if it would reconstitute once it was exposed to high heat. I just mixed 4 ounces of melted wax into the 5 ounces of Bore Butter that I scraped out of the tube and stirred it in a jar. Just about doubled my volume of material.
The resulting product is stiff, but pliable enough for me to roll into a ball with my fingers.
Great information! 👍🏾😀❤️🇺🇸
Thanks for watching!
Interesting, thank for info👍☕️☕️
Good video I like it that the tallow wont go bad spoiled crisco will make you toss your lunch.....another good source for bees wax is toilet gaskets used to seal the toilet base to the floor pipe.
Great information
Thanks for watching!
That's interesting it's good idea
I should say that Mike Brackett Of Goons Gun Works uses Mobile 1 Synthetic Ball Bearing Grease for the internals. This lube is pasty in hot and cold weather and does not bind to black powder fouling. The idea is he packs the inside of the frame with no air space remaining. This does not allow for fouling to enter and keeps the internals lubed to perfection. I'd stick with some sort of fat, oil or wax for area's around the cylinder. Awesome video's! Once I get my Walker and Carbine back the plan is to do a side by side chronograph at max loads of 3F Swiss. A lot of folks feel the Walker is the most powerful BP revolver however, its the 1858 Carbine even with its smaller chamber of powder.
Thanks for watching!
Not quite what I was looking for, but good info none the less.
I am looking for patch lube recipes, for patched round balls out of my Pennsylvania rifle
Historical! Hahahaha
great video. I never bother to weigh my ingredients when i make lube I just eyeball it. I use two 50/50 mixtures. Beeswax and Crisco in the summer and vegetable oil in the winter since it is softer.
Thanks for watching!
im getting some beeswax pellets at michaels tomorrow to mix in with my crisco
Great video
Thanks!
Other ingredients to keep on hand, if needed, in a survival situation. Any tallow or lard, crisco, paraffin wax, vasoline, bees wax. At least have 2 ingredients, and mix one part each of that you have. This is not for everyday use, but good in emergencies.
Thanks for another great video. May want to try this at some point I had 10/ ballistal to mine I know that's not historical but really dose soft the fowling n has that wonderful smell. But either way works well I'll have to try that lambs tallow iv always used beef or pork as its really avaible here lamb not so much but the beef goes bad quick pork will last a few months I'm guessing it's the salt in it that preserves it longer... Anyway thanks for the video good lesson for any bp shooter n a shout out to you and your family from MS 😊
Thanks, Joanie! I’ll have to try it with the Ballistol.
"Historical way to mix these products" HAHAHA!
Hey I commented first! Waddya know? I didn't know about the beeswax beads. Pretty cool, Dustin!
Thanks, Santee! When I started making lube, I bought a big, solid block of beeswax and had a heck of a time trying to cut pieces off. LOL!
I use it for leatherwork, and it is not easy to work with unless you warm it up.
Thank you
You bet! Thanks for watching!
i had a lubed felt try to exit between the barrel and cylinder yesterday, jamming it- had to disassemble to remove it
cool... from some plumbing work
Ive found the wax ring for a toilet
to be good for all kinds of wax uses
-- do you think itd work well for blk pdr?
Thanks Dustin, I will order some tallow and stop by Hobby Lobby for bees wax and try that out.
Thanks for watching!
So, I made a mix of 50/50 and used it to make my wads and it works great. But, even in SE Texas, the lube is much to hard to butter over the cylinder chambers. What would be a good mix that would have a buttery Crisco like consistency. Well. never mind, as usual, you answered my question. And I like the answer better than what I was thinking.
I’m going to make some of this. My beeswax came in a solid block I just melted both parts a poured them together
another good video! amazon wants a lot per jar now, i just go to my local fat shop, and they pretty much give it away 5$ a jar
Thanks for watching!
Richard-- Question. How well does the lube keep its texture on hot, humid days and if it is too hard, does it have any negative impact on velocity?
I found that I have to stir the melted mixture just long enough for it to thicken up before letting it set, to ensure the ingredients stay uniformly mixed throughout.
When I let the mixture cool without that continual stirring, the result was a layer of extra-hard stuff on the top and a really soft blob at the bottom. The ingredients tend to settle out if you just give it one stir at the beginning and let it set undisturbed afterwards. I have to keep stirring it, like making ice cream, until it got thick enough where I know the wax won't rise out of the tallow.
Interesting! I haven’t had that happen.
Mine did the same. I used equal parts beeswax and lamb tallow and a few table spoons of olive oil. It was very hard on top and close to right on bottom. I remelted then poured into jars and caped them. I shook them until it set.
How long does it last when you make it? I made a bunch of it years ago is it still good even after mixing?
I do this, lube is 50/50 by weight bees wax and coconut oil, the white solid, save several deodorant cases, I use Old Spice, wash out the case and pack with the lube. When you want lube pull off the cap and turn the screw, btw it works good for winter cracked hands and feet.
I shoot Pietta guns the cylinder bore is .446 so I ordered an 12mm arch punch from McMaster-Carr for a .472 card or felt wad. I load as follows, powder, card,dry felt wad, scrape the bullet on the lube and ram it home.
To load for long term storage, powder, wad,felt,wad, lubed bullet, scrape a wad on the lube and cap it off with that lube side down. I have kept a gun loaded like this for months without problem
Can you use this lube recipe for muskets aswell?
Dustin, how does coconut oil compare with lamb tallow?
I forgot to ad the best cards are from the separator cardboard from wine cartons
someone said they use crisco, you add beeswax to make it sturdier than plain tallow?
Are you doing 50-50 by weight or volume?
Do you use 50/50 by weight or volume, or is it close enough either way to be irrelevant.
I have quite a few pounds of beeswax blocks already from woodworking projects. I could go by weight with a small kitchen scale if that will be close enough.
Thank you -another great informational video that adds practicality and value to percussion revolvers. In the past have used Dixie's " Old Zip" and it was a similar appearance and advertised 50/50 mix. Now that Dixie is out of the sheep business, your information is especially valuable as this is a great lube that avoids petroleum and thus excessive barrel fouling. I may have missed it but are you mixing by 50/50 volume or weight? Appears equal volume but not sure. Again thanks much.
Yes, 50/50. Thanks for watching!
Used the same tallow as your mix. Problem was at room temp it was too hard to be manageable plus with bees wax it was like a rock. It was apparent that adding more tallow wasn't a correction. To avoid thinning with petroleum added 2 table spoons or perhaps 5% of olive oil. After melting and mixing it needed a little experimentation and then obtained the desired consistency. It spreads better than my on hand commercial lubes and works into the chambers well, A word of caution is use the olive oil sparingly as it thins the mix more than initially expected.
I'm going to try this but I'm going to add a bit of mint oil to the melted lube to replicate that Wonderlube 1000 smell. Just a couple of drops maybe.......Planning on making wads for the pistols.....
How does this do in the heat if you're carrying the pistol through the woodline
I don’t know what the issue is, but I’ve used the same 50/50 ratio of lambs tallow and beeswax. When I let it cool, it just becomes very hard. What could I be doing wrong?
Bought that same lambs tallow xD
Historical way to mix those products, yeah I can still remember and Grandpa are now making his bullet lube in the microwave in 1963😂
I used beeswax and coconut oil and it seems to crumbly and hard. Do you have any suggestions?
I followed your instructions, it got really hard when cool. Had to really knead it to make it usable.
Is that normal? Help
Can you use this mixture for dipping paper cartridges ( ball and conical )?
Yes, for both. I actually offer it in tins that are perfect for that: gunsoftheweststore.com/products/black-powder-bullet-lube-4-oz
This looks great. I find TC bore butter too drippy to be worth paying for.
I agree. I sometimes use bore butter on the arbor, but I don’t like it as a bullet lube.
Would there be any benefit to using both felt wads and wax together? I would think that the wax mix seals the chamber from moisture better than felt wads would? New subscriber wanting to get into black powder and I've been watching alot of your videos which have been very helpful. I intend to bring a black powder revolver when I go packing on the pacific crest trail and I'm worried about moisture contamination overtime.
Cheers!
It’s really just overkill to use both. The purpose of either one is mainly to keep the fouling from ruining accuracy. If your projectiles and caps are the right size, moisture shouldn’t be a problem. Thanks for watching!
@@GunsOfTheWest cool thanks for the tip! And also for the reply! I appreciate your videos and expertise!!
@@northwilliams389 You’re welcome!
Can you pop popcorn in lamb tallow? If not, lard wins. 😂
Just made some of this today, came out great. Mixed 50/50 Lamb Tallow(like you have) and Meyer's Beeswax pellets from Amazon. Mixed 2oz of each ingredients.
I too used a historically period correct microwave. lol
Do you find that the lube over the chambers melts away after firing one or two rounds?
Not this kind. It’s firm enough to hold up. It’s actually available on my website now: gunsoftheweststore.com/products/black-powder-bullet-lube-4-oz
I use a 70:30 wax/tallow ratio for my combustible .36 and .44 revolver cartridges as per a 1860's Army Ordnance manual. It works great and long term storage is good.
I’ve noticed that this recipe doesn’t get blown out of adjacent cylinders when firing. I had an old jar of T-C Maxi-Lube and the first shot blew most of it out of the adjacent cylinders.
Right this is much better. It’s available pre-made here: gunsoftheweststore.com/products/black-powder-bullet-lube-4-oz
Do you think 50/50 lard & bees wax would work?
Should do just fine.
Lard tends to keep near indefinitely as long as it hasn't been contaminated by food product mixing into it. (Crumbs, meat bits, etc) so it shouldn't go rancid
I know this is an old video but perhaps someone will see this and have some advice! So I got beeswax and this exact same lambs tallow. I made a 50/50 mix (using a scale to weigh) and it turned out wayyyy too hard. I melted it down and added more tallow and a bit of olive oil and it’s still too hard. I’m thinking of simply adding more of the tallow and oil again but is there something I’m doing wrong? I did it on the stove but I stopped the burner as soon as it was all liquid and I immediately poured it into my metal tins
The hardness is normal and keeps the lube in place during recoil. It’s now available here: gunsoftheweststore.com/products/black-powder-bullet-lube-4-oz
If it's crumbly is there too much beezwax?
In my experience, that usually happens when the lead is too hot. The excess heat seems to cause more dross.
I may be totally ignorant, but I gotta say that I think people overrate the importance of lube. I've been using a .36 Colt Police Pocket for years now (not heavily though), and I've never bothered with lubing the chambers or the round balls. Never had any problem result. It doesn't shoot very well, but that has more to do with A. I think the ammo available locally (.375") is way to big, making the balls go out-of-round (and balls don't work well with rifling anyway) and B. I once forget to clean it and it rusted the hell out of the forcing cone. For whatever the reason, it seems to shoot a foot high at 20 feet. But never had any problem due to not lubricating the bullets or the chambers. I hadn't even heard of lubing the bullets until I bought a .358 wadcutter casting die and am now told I need to lube all the bullets before i use them. Since I never lubed the round balls, I don't see why the cylindrical bullets should be any different. Maybe I'll try some Crisco or solidified beef fat left over from cooking ground beef.
Any idea of the melting point of this mixture?
Low. Lard and wax melt neatly to a match flame. Put it in a pot and put the heat to low and it will liquefy on a few short minutes.
Some People ad Paraffine to the mix. Do you know why? I heard at one time you should only use organic type lube, and no petrol based.
but you put this lube under the projectile or on the top ?
On top. It can also be used in bullets that have lube grooves.
For .45 or .44 cartridge bullets, couldn’t you pour your microwaved (or “nuked”) liquid lube into a pan with a batch of bullets pointed straight up, let it dry and them pull each round out with needle pliers instantly lubed and then repeat the process? Microwave pan lubing
Absolutely. This mixture should work great for pan lubing. Thanks for watching!
Guns Of The West thank you! I’ll give it a shot.
Has anyone tried this mixture in a shoulder holster in a black motorcycle jacket in 98 degree weather? Does it stay semi solid or melt into the holster?
This is a very firm lube, so it stays pretty solid.
@@GunsOfTheWest Thanks man/ One other question: I'm shooting an old ASM (Richland Arms) 1851 Navy. with a felt wad, round ball and 30 gr FFF Goex. Do you think switching to 30 gr of Hodgdon Triple 7 be too much?
also most seem like clap stick would work lol
If you're using paper shells do you still add lube on top?
Either that or dip the bullet end of the cartridge in melted lube and let it harden. Thanks for watching!
@@GunsOfTheWest I caught some of your other videos on paper cartridges where you expanded on that - thank you!
I had no clue they even existed other than the "bite the tip off" type for loading rifles so after having spent more time sitting at the bench reloading my 1851 Navy than standing at the line firing it last Saturday, I'm definitely ordering one of your kits.
What was the most popular brand of microwave in the 1840’s and 1850’s !! Was it General Electric or Whirlpool ?? Just wonderin 😂😂😂😂
So mine came out hard it has the consistency of blue cheese, what did i do wrong?
It actually always does. I use a blade to scrape out what I need. The hardness really helps it to stay in place under recoil while shooting.
@@GunsOfTheWest Okay, I thought that I messed it up.
Howdy, I have subscribed to your Guns of the West channel on youtube and liked each video of yours that I watch. I also follow your Facebook page. I would be willing to contribute to a patreon page if you have one just copy and paste on a reply to this comment. I'll start out with a simple question and am looking to ask more questions in the future from time to time. Do you know of where I can order lambs tallow and beeswax pellets online?.. I live in a rural area in eastern oregon, closest walmart is 45 min away, no arts and crafts places near me, so I enjoy ordering online... thanks again Dustin My name is Paul by the way. Thanks for any shared information, also your videos are great! I've learned much from you and duelist among several other youtube channels. Happy shooting!
Thanks for watching! I order both of these things from Amazon online.
@@GunsOfTheWest too easy. Thanks for the reply. I'll do the ground work. Hear ya loud and clear. Happy shooting! Now I backed out after replying to this and under suggested products it's full of bees wax and lamb tallow.. lol I need to get used to youtube. I recently got on here. Trying to figure it all out, I can navigate Amazon just wondered if you knew of a good deal specifically, but as I said, I can shop around and live and learn. No problem, thanks again. Great videos you have on here by the way, I've learned a lot from you.
Here’s the big question: does it tend to melt on hot days?
No, it’s firm enough to withstand heat and recoil very well. I actually offer it now here: gunsoftheweststore.com/products/black-powder-bullet-lube-4-oz
Would paraffin wax work just as well ?
You can use it, but it’s a hard wax, so it’s more difficult to work with when loading the gun.
Thanks .
I tried 50:50 bees wax and crisco and the end result was WAY to firm. I have progressively been adding more crisco and even olive oil and it's still too firm. I'm going to try 20:80
to my knowledge, no tallow or lard goes rancid, pork lard most defiantly does not
@@SR-gs8zo what about it?
I definitely did something wrong. When it cooled it ended up being hard as a rock
It’s usually pretty hard, but I prefer that over a lube that’s runny, especially during warmer months. If you don’t like the hardness, you can alter the ratio of lamb tallow to beeswax. More tallow and less beeswax will be a bit softer. Thanks for watching!
@@GunsOfTheWest yeah I'll have to play with it, definitely more lamb tallow, I mean it's literally solid. I cant even get any out of the jar with my finger. On the bright side I can just remelt it and change the ingredients until I get something that works :)
I usually use a plastic knife to get it out of the jar. The hardness is helpful when the gun gets hot after a few shots and prevents it from dripping too much out of the chambers.
I think in the old west they could only get zenith microwaves...
What’s his last name?????
I here you can use lip balm
NO WAY ARE YOU WALTER WHITE?!??