2018 FORD KUGA / ESCAPE - The most unlikely parasitic battery drain
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In this video we shall be diagnosing and fixing a 2018 Ford Kuga / Escape 1.5d. The vehicle is in the workshop with a flat battery and the owner has been told he has a current drain (parasitic drain) which is draining the battery. Using nothing more than a multi meter and the correct workshop information, the drain was soon identified and repaired.
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From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧 ⏰️ 18:29pm Good Evening
Just got bro be one of the best parasitic draw diagnostics i've ever seen on these can network vehicles !! Many thanks.
Lovely seeing somebody working this stuff out.
Must feel like winning a game of chess against a sneaky opponent ;)
Great stuff Steve. I must also say that in general I am very impressed by the way your videos are edited. Very informative.
Had same issue today with a ford kuga, and this was exactly my issue.
How did You fix it
I’m not blowing smoke up your arse but you are an excellent diagnostician. I learn something from all of your videos. Cheers
Thanks Trevor
Great video mate. Door handles! Probably the last thing you'd expect. Great method too.
Yes, it was a strange fault, but one i've seen a couple times since this video. Thanks for the comment
I had this exact same fault a couple of months ago using data logger I found that both front door handles was keeping the vehicle systems on, they both had water intrusion into the connectors of the handles. Replaced both handles plus the looms and was all OK. Great instructional videos 👍
How did you fix it ?
Brilliant job Diagnosing! had same problem volt drop on fuse 78 turned out to be passenger door handle thanks for tip!!
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From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧
Very good video and find Steve, in your last video I just watched on a Corsa you mentioned dealer techs being called 1 trick pony’s well you definitely are not that. Brilliant stuff & thanks for sharing 🙏🙏👍
Top job Steve , you certainly know your stuff , many so called sparks wouldn't have a clue on this one ,.shame the new handles have to be painted , more cost unless a warranty job , cheers for the information 💪💪💪🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks. The handle covers can be removed carefully as they are bonded on.
Nice work as always, Steve. Pleasure to watch you work.
Excellent video - got a bit lost when you started poking around in the 16 pin diag socket :
hopefully I'll get the hang of it one of these days
I was checking the can bus activity. If the vehicle had shut down then there would be no activity, but one can network was being kept awake
Great video Steve, transparent data stream with door handle operation was 👌🏻
Cheers John
Very good video detailed and explained completely
Great video as always Steve ,
like the top tip with the tape reminder on the steering wheel as your not the only one to send one out with taped up sensors 🙈
simple things lol
had this same problem on 18 plate kuga 3 handles changed now looks like 4th handle same problem and ford dealer say never seen this before ......i think they have and bet there loads with this problem and great video
Brilliant as always Steve. Please keep making them
Great video love the readings great to confirm what we see
Clear, concise & truly educational as usual.Bravo!!
Great Diagnosis as always 👍
Great video thank you. Having similar issue with a 2007 ford focus, has similar handles/locks. If this happens to be the issue, can you just leave the handles disconnected, or turn off the touch/proximity setting? And still have the car lock with the key fob or key. Being a 2007, they arnt in a rush to buy new handles or sensors for it. Just happy if it drives and stops killing the battery. Thank you
I know on the MK3 focus the keyless entry can be turned off in the dash menu. But unsure about the function on the age of car you work on
@@SYDiagnostics thank you. Will have a look. Again appreciate the vid. Very helpful
Excellent
Great video you make it look easy!!
Very good indeed 👍
Great video as always cheers
Thanks for the very instructive video, but I don't understand the purpose of the can bus resistance test?
it was to show the network had shut down, 60 ohms is its shut down state. It may of been more clearer if i'd shown the voltage like i did on the medium speed. sorry for the confusion
@@SYDiagnostics thank you Steve
this is crazy, great find
Good job thanks
Good video .did say m volt not Mili amps but knew what you meant as elec engineer not cars though different ball game .complicated systems .leave to experts like yourself👍
Awesome as always mate 👌 nicely done and nice find
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Great work as per. 👍🏻
Great video 👍👍
that a good one thanks
Nice work. 👍
That's wild. I can only presume this nugget of info about the handles has been passed down from tech to tech or is there a SA about it? The more I see problems like this, the more I'm glad my ST is comparatively basic 😅
There is no bulletin about it, its something i came across with another tech about 4 months before this video was shot and remebered it. Since the video i've seen about 3 more cases
Very good video Steve what make of amp clamp are you using ? , and one to watch out for me in the future ,keep up the good work 👌👍👍
its UEi & i've had it years
What did i miss on the test of the handles? They were working weren't they?
Is that an app you have with the volt drop information on? I've never commented before but love your videos, thanks for sharing your knowledge and techniques!
I just needed a picture to show. I use a chart from "power probe" but it doesn't seem to be online no more
Thanks for the support
Great video, how would you go about fault finding with a intermittent battery drain? I've got one at the moment I'm really struggling with as cant get it to fault with me to be able to test!
What fuses can i use to remove the handle sensor
I have a very similar issue and 2x Ford garages have not been able to identify the battery drain..., where are you based ? Thnx
Lincolnshire
Whats the link to both being faulty? I wouldn't say that was an old car either.
No idea to be honest. Both the same part number and have seen it on a focus too. Both been this age range.
@@SYDiagnostics oh dear! Ill have to keep an eye on mine then.
Great diagnosis and a great channel thanks👍
What are you connecting the multimeter to
Hi, I have subscribed to your channel and I was very interested in this particular video. I have a question... I own a mk4. 1.5 diesel focus Vignale 2020. It was second hand with 3000miles on it, I too keep having a flat battery. After 3 days of rest, the car won’t start and the dash goes bonkers. I have placed a battery condition meter in the accessory socket recently and it shows an almost constant 14.7volts charge rate (same reading with a good multimeter). The sales garage does not appear to be concerned about the high charge rate and put it down to my dash cam consuming 0.4Ah… It is left plugged into the accessory socket. Should the accessory socket still be able to drain the battery with the ignition switch off? and isn't 14.7v too high. Thanks for the videos they’re very informative.
14.7v isn't too high, but if it is constantly this figure then the battery is discharged and requires charging (which the alternator is doing). If there is a 0.4a constant drain then this will drain the battery in a couple days at least. If the battery is constantly going flat, jump started and charged, then it could well now be faulty. I would look into hard wiring the dash cam into an ignition live (careful though as they can knock out DAB reception). The battery monitor sensors on these vehicles have a faulty batch .. if the part number on it is not ending with C* then it requires changing and there could be a BCM configuration update available
@@SYDiagnostics Thank you for your advice, so kind of you to reply. I am only too happy to talk with you over the phone and pay for your consultancy time please advise me if you feel this would be best.
My battery monitor sensor is labeled as JX6T 10C679 CA, should I ask my local garage to replace this with a JX6T 10C679 CC ?.
Thank you for your very helpful reply.
Regards.
@@Thesheddweller Hi, The battery monitor sensor part number is OK and doesn't need replacing, Can you remove the dash cam from any power source and re-check? 0.4A is too high a drain (0.02 - 0.05 is acceptable) it has been known the the telematics units can stay awake too with a 0.3-0.4a drain. If you have registered on ford pass app and can connect car to a wifi source, then these can be updated via the "wifi" section and check for updates. Have you tried disconnecting the battery for 30 mins then re-connect. Try the amp drain again, often the telelmatics unit will re-set. Only camera ive fitted on a Ford Focus mk 4 was a genuine ford camera and i cant remember the fuse numbers used (one ignition one permanent)
Good stuff. Thanks. I'd have a question which is kind of related to this topic but not exactly.
I'd like to tap in one of the circuits to connect a dash cam but I'm not sure which fuse would be the best.
I have chosen either the tail gate fuse or F80 the moonroof. However, since my car has not moonroof but has a fuse in F80 and there is current in it, I am not sure it is an "empty' circuit and is safe to connect to it or it has something else connected to it.
I'd really appreciate if you could help me out with that. Cheers
That was very interesting. If the keyless entry was disabled (as i disabled mine) would you still get the drain ? Just curious thats all.
Good question and not something i'd thought of to be honest and worth a look if i see one again. The vehicle was a recent purchase for the customer so all items had to work
How did You disable keyless entry ?
Great video. You said the door handles were at the bodyshop for painting. Why not use the old ones and save the customer the paint job?
the covers are stuck on, they can be removed with a bit of heat and gentle prizing off. The cost was absorbed in the diagnosis as we have an onsite bodyshop
Hi Steve, always watch your videos with interest. I realise your probably very busy but hope you can spare a bit of time to answer a question for me. I watched your video some time back regarding water ingress from the windscreen washer pump to the BCM on a Mondeo. I had that exact problem and had to have a new BCM fitted So my question is, to stop this happening again with the new BCM, can I cut the wire just before it goes into the BCM plug and rejoin it with a spade end connector. Hopefully this would stop the water tracking along the cable. Would this work, without causing any fault codes or engine warning lights to come on. Hope you can find time to answer this. Ta.
exactly that, i replace the washer pump as in my opinion its faulty, then i cut and solder the wires to stop any further tracking of water
Thanks for the reply Steve, much appreciated. Will fit a new pump, as you suggest, and cut wire and fit spade end connector.
And this happened for washing the Kuga with water pressure ?
Great video Steve. Where are you based. Have a similar problem 2007 1.4 petrol fiesta.
Regards
i have this issue with a petrol escape sits overnight battery will drain overnight
carried out a current draw test sitting at 2.068 ended up getting down to 0.052
removed fuse 11 and it hit 0.52 could this be a bcm issue
At the live data what should be shown? Unlock lock should be both off? Only when you touch the sensors should be shown on?
exactly, off when not touching and on when touching
where can i buy the keyless door handles to fit myself?
would pulling the fuse fix this issue??? (I don't use keyless anyway)
I'm not sure what else is on the circuit, there may well be issues by pulling the fuse. To answer your other question, the handles are available only from Ford
Steve could please tell me where your garage is or a phone number as my 2019 kuga ford is having a problem of batteries being drained
Sorry. But I'm no longer at a Ford garage, currently taking some time out. I'm in Nth Lincolnshire
Hi is it possible for me to book my 1.0 EcoBoost in for you to have a look at. I have the code P006A I’ve took it to a few garages now and no one can figure out what the problem is 😢 please get back to me thank you.
Hi sorry. I'm employed and don't do private work
Henry 1st is rolling in his grave!