Springfield 2020 Rimfire Review: well it seemed like a good idea....
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in this video we review the Springfield 2020 Rimfire Springfield's take on a Rimfire PRS or NRL22 ready rifle for production class.
what interesting about this rifle is on paper it looks great however the execution of the design led to what's likely going to be a commercial flop for Springfield entry into the rimfire market
please Springfield make a GEN2!
from Springfield's website:
The Model 2020 Rimfire family offers shooters a refined rimfire rifle with all the quality and performance you’ve come to expect from Springfield Armory. Offered in both Classic wood-stocked and Target synthetic-stocked versions, the Model 2020 Rimfire carries an impressive accuracy guarantee and the heirloom quality of a firearm you will keep in your family for generations.
Featuring a reinforced black synthetic stock modeled after the popular Model 2020 Waypoint, the Model 2020 Rimfire Target has free floated barrel and carries an impressive accuracy guarantee. The rifle and magazine are cross compatible with Ruger® 10/22® of the same capacity and the action features dual cocking cams for smooth, reliable operation. Guaranteed to shoot 1” or less at 50 yards with quality ammunition in the hands of a qualified shooter the Model 2020 rimfire easily outperforms other rifles in its class.
CALIBER .22 LR
COLOR Black
BARREL 20" Heavy Profile, Straight Taper Contour, 1:16, Matte Blued, Threaded 1/2x28
RECEIVER Model 2020 Rimfire, Round 1.14" Diameter, Matte Blued
OPTIC MOUNTING Interrupted Picatinny Mount, 8-40 Screws
BOLT 4140 Steel, High Polish White Chrome Coating
STOCK Target, Reinforced Polymer
TRIGGER Adjustable Remington® 700 Style Trigger Group w/ Hanger System for Compatibility
MUZZLE DEVICE Thread Protector
MAGAZINES (1) 10-Round SA Rotary
WEIGHT 7 lbs 7 oz
LENGTH 38"
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At the risk of sounding pedantic, 1" at 50y is 2 MOA not 1. I figured you meant "sub-1 inch"
My experience is the same as yours, shooting 600 rounds of SK, Lapua and Eley ammo and groups ran 1.2 - 1.3. one lot of Eley Match did average .85 at 50y with a couple of .55 and most .9 - 1.2
I have the savage mark II With the 16 inch Heavy barrel with suppressor adaptability. I am running a monstrum 3 x9 x 40 With the adjustable turret Talk about a budget build or a budget rifle this is it and It's very durable and accurate I really enjoy it
Savage just shoot really good. This summer I'm going to take my MK2 for some NRL22 stuff. There is a club near me finally that holds matches.
Interested to see how these mags feed a ruger precision rimfire. Wonder if they could help improve accuracy
I am with you on this is a wait until a gen 2.
I steered clear of this rifle due to the poor reviews. Thanks for the heads up. Purchased a Savage A22 ProVarmint instead and very happy. Shot a five shot .5” group at 50 yards with CCI MiniMags new out of the box. Now, if I could just find some mags.
wow thats pretty good,. im working on releasing my review on the savage A22 precision. I did not have such luck with that rifle not supoer accurate, and the occasional light primer strike
You are smart to stay clear of this rifle. Let them learn that today's shooters are smarter than them.
Just picked up a used WEBLEY & SCOTT XOCET BOLT ACTION .22LR with the carbon fiber barrel. Have you got to take a look at one? Comes with a rail, threaded barrel and 2 mags.
Unrelated: What is the best semi auto rifle for Canadians right out of the box currently? Looking to buy my first, maybe the WK180C or SRV2, any advice?
Greetings 🇨🇦
I know this rifle has gotten a lot of beef, and I’m not the one to take other people's words until I try it for myself and make my own conclusion that's always the best way to get your own opinion on something. So I purchased the wooden stock of the model 2020 and I absolutely love it. I haven't had any issues with it. It shoots well and it feeds well with the Ruger 10/22 magazines. I suited the rifle with Vortex diamondback 4-16x44 FFP MRAD it turned out to be a great match for the rifle. Who knows, maybe I got lucky with my rifle and I didn’t end up with a lemon like most people did. I’m not denying the hate about them nor the issues that people have claimed, I'm just saying my experience was a perfect one, and I’m very happy with my rimfire model 2020 Springfield.
FYI I love the factory trigger 4.5lbs. But I am thinking about upgrading to a TriggerTech, Remington 700 Diamond Single Stage Trigger 0.25 lbs to 2 lbs.
2020 review exactly 20 minutes long
*Chef kiss*
It's too bad these aren't accurate. Such cool looking guns.
I agree, such a missed opportunity
Here is to hoping for a V2 or one they actually claim to be a Match version. Like you said, they did lots of things right. 700 compatible trigger, stock shape, smooth action and threaded heavy barrel. Sounds like they just need a match chamber/rifling. If they can do that and price it at $500 bucks, they will have a winner.
I bought the satin walnut 2020 and its been a great rifle. Im no group shooter so i cant claim a moa but i shoot at a 1.5 inch steel round target at 50ish yards. Hits eveytime. Only problem i found is it doesnt like the ruger mags, and that shitty bolt shroud had to come on off. Ive noticed most of the bad reviews are coming from the synthetic stock model.
Also
Excellent review
If you can, try to take a look at the Ruger Precision Rimfire and the Bergara B14R... Your thoughts on those would be great 👍
Both are good rifles and accurate rimfires. I have both and depends on what I am doing as to which one goes with me for the day!
Every honest test has junked this rifle. I own several .22lr rifles. One of them is a Norinco EM 332, it cost me $160 and it shoots sub MOA at 50 meters. My best .22 is a CZ 457 MTR 20" sub MOA at 50 and 100 meters. The 2020 rimfire is not even suitable for plinking. I would like to see someone put a bore scope through the barrel to see what it looks like in there, especially the crown
What sort of 10rd groups do you get outa your Savage mk2? I have a hvy barrel and its like .75" at 50yds
ouf id have to rewatch my reviw on the gun but from memory it was around 0.5" groups at 50M, funny because ive owned their B22 precision, and just working on the A22 Precision, and neither are as accurate as the MArkII
@@EpikArmsOk I'll find her and give it a watch. I imagine with some match ammo I could hone her down a bit, I was just using cci standard velocity. Yeah for the price it's pretty much unbeatable as far as the Accuracy and reliability go.
Great stuff 💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
I'm confused a bit.
You are shooting at 50 meters and the one average you said was sub MOA at .97, wouldn't you double that since MOA is 100 yards? Or were the groups actually under .5" and you already doubled the size for 100 meters?
Yeah you are right, so all the numbers I'm reffering to is at 50m. Also from what ive been told springfeilds claim of sub moa was meant to mean sub 1" at 50yards. But in short, if you are looking at this rifle, skip it your best options are savage mark2, tikka t1x/cz457 this is not on the list
@EpikArms the CZ 457 and Bergara B14 R are the two that I've been considering
I haven't tried the Bergara yet, soon!
Mine with a torque of 19 foot pounds on stock. Mine with SK standard plus will put 30 rounds in a nickel at 50 yards.
Good review, Springfield should have sent the barrel blanks to savage for rifling. It's a nice looking rifle and everyone wants it to be a shooter. If your looking for a wall decoration this would be nice, especially with the high end wood. My question to Springfield is how could you deliver this to the market place? If you get the issues fixed in gen 2 it will be too late to save this rifle.
that could have helped, then again savges only good rimfire is the MArk2 their A22 and B22 had issues
Was it broke in first? Wondering if that would make a difference?
Yep 300 rounds through it before this rereview
You'd think at this point Springfield would be tired of making guns that FAIL. This is nothing new for them. Maybe they should market a slingshot. Then the groups may...be acceptable. 😂
Lol!
The Hellcat seems to be ok. The Prodigy is an ok option for a 2011 given most are $2k at a bare minimum. I saw the High Power knock off and the Girsan looked nicer. I've shot their 1911s and they are not bad. Long guns are just kinda meh.
My CZ457 out of the box with a cheap Simmons scope I had laying around did just under MOA at 50 yards with cheap Eley (Contact, not their match grade), like .48". Pretty sure it was a cheaper rifle too.
Nah, the very cheapest CZ is actually about 28% more expensive than the 2020. Im horrible at math but the plastic stock CZ street price is about $539 while the 2020 is only about $419. Not that its not worth the extra $110, but at low price points 28% more is significant. Again, that being said, I would buy the CZ also.
@@davidleatham296 I got my 457 American on sale for somewhere around the 380 mark... (synthetic stock). Normally runs around 420... Now the walnut stock is on my list, lol.
Definitely Savage Mk 2 for a solid budget rig. People hate on Savage but they just shoot. Mine is in a Boyds Pro Varmaint stock with an Arken SH4 gen 2. It's a sweet rig but it weighs as much as Jupiter. I want to like the CZ as I'm a CZ fanboy but the lack of an ability to add a pic rail on anything but the competition trainer really kills it for me.
EGW, you can add a pic rail on any 457.....I have the pro varmint, added a pic rail....
@@michaelficarro2591 probably should have been more specific. Most of the CZ rifles are dovetails not drilled and tapped. Unless CZ has started doing drilled and tapped receivers.
@@bmstylee evolution gun works(EGW), makes a 0 and 20 MOA dove tail to pic rail conversion, high quality….
Sub MOA at 50 yards is not under 1” it’s under 0.5235” so you never even got 1 MOA. That guarantee is 2 MOA which is a joke
To anyone looking: Just. Buy. A. CZ
Or Savage and Tikka.
"Targets are kinda big for competition". LOL biggest understatement since "kinda pregnant" was first uttered. Hey BTW great review
Kinda makes you wonder if a decent company built it would it shoot better?
I think so. Looks like a lot of work went into design. Just really dissapoints with the barrel and mag rexeiver
DO NOT BUY THIS RIFLE! I bought the 2020 rimfire soon after it was released. 5 shot groups at 50 yrds were ranging around 2" to 1" groups. When it did shoot 1" it wasn't repeatable like other rifles. It was difficult to find ammo that it likes. Ammo used were cci, sk, eley, aguila, and norma tac. I feel there is something off with these barrels. No ammo shot consistent with the 2020. I also shoot with a CZ 457 and use to own a Ruger RPR rimfire that I shoot with over the years. The springfield 2020 is not consistent at all. What did i do? I contacted Springfield and told them what happened. I sent the gun in and they said theres nothing wrong with it. My guess is that they dont care how it shoots. And they arent stupid. They know it isnt something theyd own themselves when you have cheaper rifles out there that are more accurate. Stay away.
Wow thats incredibly bad service. Also what I forgot to mention about mine, I put about 200-300 rounds through it with cci sv and I tested groups at the beggining and they were 2" as well it took the barrel a while to "break in" to even be this good
@@EpikArms I have about 400 rounds through mine. 2 failed extractions and 1 stuck magazine event. I wish I knew what the issue was. I honestly think they cheaped out on the rifle.
Piece of shit company. They know damn well this gun sucks and has feeding and extraction issues!!!!
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This is so upsetting I held this rifle today and loved everything about it and was ready to purchase but thought I should check some reviews. Glad I did. Come on Springfield. How are you going to make a rifle look and feel good yet shoot like shit
Yep, you will be more impressed with a cz457
From now til end of year they are giving away 1 of these for free if you purchase a 2020 waypoint or redline.. hopefully of late theyve made some better ones
Wow, there just trying to liquidate the bad stock possibly?
@@EpikArms yea id imagine so... is it a good rifle if its free? Haha that redline in a 6.5 definitely has my attention
Very frustrating ,you have all the pistol CZcamsrs praising the Springfield echelon , but the Springfield 2020 is bad ?
Pretty much all youtubers agree this rimfire version is crap. This isn't made by the same people that made the echelon. This one is made in Turkey.
@@EpikArms ok thank you . New to firearms so new to this , I purchased mine based on how good it looked and the name . Hopefully they let me exchange it in in Cali so I have to wait the 10 days. I guess I should’ve researched before pulling the trigger on this .
Tikka t1x will shoot lights out
You just saved me $450 😂😊😂
Glad I could help! For budget it's the savage mark2 then either t1x or cz457
Quick note on warranties... You are going to be hard-pressed to find any manufacturer guaranteeing anything other than a 3-shot group 1moa@100yds with factory match ammo. They all either don't guarantee it or say 3-shot groups. That said, MOA guarantee doesn't matter if you aren't an MOA shooter... As a gunsmith I will say I have yet to see a new gun perform worse than the shooter. Not saying they don't exist, but generally it's the operator. Clearly you got a bad rifle. Springfield is less than impressive recently.
Wow!!! I must say this is a really bad shooting rifle. From Springfield. I don't have much experience with their rifles. I have purchased many of their sidearms. All have proformed outstanding. For this rifle to be this poor of a proformer, Someone has without a doubt ( F ) up on this project. When it's bad, it's bad. And I have enjoyed many of Springfield products for many years. I have found their products to be accurate, solid built and reliable . If there ever had been a problem I've found their customers service department to be great people to deal with as well. How ever This is three times I have heard not so much of a good review of this rifle. I've always said, if I spend my hard earned money on one of your products, then you need to make sure that product is the best it can be, for what ever price point you are saleing them at, ( period ). Sounds like you missed the mark big time with this release, guys.
Those are some squirrel killing groups if you ask me.
Lol you must not be a skilled shooter… kidding out course - great review thank you
Thanks man!
Pass.
Isnt it marketed as a target rifle, not a match rifle, as someone who shoots on occasion i dont see the problem, its still hitting where youre shooting, if you want precision why are you using rimfire you should be using a centerfire rifle. Especially one that isnt 400$
this rifle was designed for precision rimfire considering how it was made, what people in the NRL22 and rimfire PRS are asking for is precision, typically what is acceptable is 0.5" at 50m at this price point,
You are right, it looks like a target rifle but it is marketed as a plinker. Nothing more. It shoots as well as my low end 10/22 and I think thats what its for.
They are new in making bolt action and hunting rifles. They are going to school with customers money. In this area, they are years behind a company like CZ. Leave them alone and let them taste the failure on their own.
*complains about accuracy* *proceeds to shoot standing and Slouched, over a post, with a bag.... which is not at all how u benchrest a rifle together actual groups. Unless the groups were actually shot from a 2 bag rested position or lead sled, I'd say it did okay. I spent more on a ruger precision that shoots worse then this rifle appeared too, from an actual rested position.
All groups that were shown were dont from. Benchrest position with a caldwell the rock deluxe front rest and caldwell deluxe rear bag. The positional shooting is more for esthetics in the video. Thanks for the feedback
So anything that makes a gun useable is bad.
What are you reffering to?
A savage mk2 fv will eat this rifles lunch. All day every day. My FV shoots cci sv better than this gun shoots tenex
Buy a cz and sleep better
My 1973 Glenfield Model 20 is way more accurate than this flub
Idk why people still buy Springfields. Half their guns fail and they did that anti 2a shit awhile back. Just a garbage company
By the 2a remark don't buy from Ruger, Colt, S&W, Daniel Defense et al. All have made some pretty big gaffs and no one seems to care.
@@bmstylee fair enough
Glad to see that fairy Travis Kelce is still making review videos.
I'm confused, I had to Google who he is, I'm still confused. If it's an insult make It so fairy Travis Kelce understands it!
You look like Travis Kelce. But with very gay mannerisms.@@EpikArms
You're a jerk mate...waiting for you to show us what you can do better.
I've been told that before. all my gay friends call me "Straight Alex" hehe
@@EpikArms how tall are you? And gimme it in American not the gay Canadian B.S. in centimeters.