Remarkable Engines: IANR 678/Ferromex 241
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- čas přidán 15. 10. 2020
- Happy F40PH Friday! The F40PH has always been one of the most well-known and respected American diesel locomotives ever made. However, the story of this F40 is unlike that of any other, as it was one of the last F40s working for Amtrak, a HEP equipped power car for the Alaska Railroad, American Orient Express and Ferromex, and became an excursion locomotive for the Iowa Northern shortline and Rock Island Railroad heritage unit! Sorry if I haven't been uploading as often, and if it took me a month to upload an episode of this series. I've been VERY busy with a lot of things all happening at once, and didn't have much time to work on these videos.
EDIT December 2023: It is with great sadness to announce that this unit has recently been scrapped due to CN acquiring the Iowa Northern Railroad.
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It comes with sad news that I now must report that the Iowa Northern 678 has been scrapped.
F40PH is my favorite locomotive, I see them all the time
VIA Rail Canada has a fleet that has been rebuilt, and one is on the back of the Canadian $10 bill.
It's about time this girl got the recognition she deserves. What a beautiful locomotive.i hope that they will continue to take very good care of her.
The ranking list I talked about ranks individual fleets, and I'll also put my F40, F59, B32-8WH, P32, P40, and P42 ranking lists in the description, as most fleets don't have enough samples to rank them.
Yes, I am an absolute F40 knucklehead. The f40 is what made me lighten up to diesel power. Their sleek body design is just flawless. The P30ch is what intrigued my interest in amtrak
I've heard of this locomotive, but I've learned a lot more about it from this video! It has had quite a variety of uses throughout its history: on Amtrak; on the Alaska Railroad as a leaser for the _Denali_ _Star;_ on the Montreal, Maine, and Atlantic Railway (but leased to the American Orient Express for HEP); on Ferromex for _el_ _Chepe_ and the AOE; and now, on the Iowa Northern Railroad for excursion trains... and revenue freight trains!
Thanks for the video!
Those E & F units could work! Although they may be low on hp, and are Gensets, they were reliable, and could have been rebuilt with an EMD 16-645E3, and a HEP Generator, and serve until the 90s.
Sad that the Hawkeye Express was canceled
INAR 678 just got scrapped sadly
Can you please talk about EX Amtrak F40PHR unit 404 next???
Don’t forget that Metra has like 209 of them as their only power
3 ex Amtrak
Awww man I just found out that the Hawkeye express was canceled and now 678 has an uncertain fate 😔
Agreed. Hopefully this service can eventually be restored and 678 can run more excursions.
@@Pensyfan19 me too I hope it does come back otherwise I am really scared for 678’s fate to occur
@BradleyRock damn
Awesome video mate, I have seen the photo of the Ferromex F40PH 241 pulling the El Chepe several times but I haven't seen much information about it, as a mexican railfan it is impressive to see the story behind that photo I have seen in the internet several times, you just made my day jeje, greetings from Juarez Chihuahua!
Thank you! Glad I could expand your knowledge of the locomotive. The purpose of Remarkable Engines is to focus and expand upon locomotives that aren't well-known in railroading, even those which have few photos of them. Such examples include PRR 4663 (a streamlined doodlebug railcar), UP 844 the GP30, and Tri-Rail 904 the FP7. I also plan on doing other little-known locomotives in the future including NREX 9402, Reading Railroad 178 (a semi-streamlined steam locomotive) and even the double-fairle Rio Grande locomotive!
The F40s, F59s, and F69s were the last great passenger locomotives made by EMD. The DE/DM30s are ok, but apparently are maintenance nightmares. The F125 has had *so many* issues, including: cracked engine blocks, the prime mover just randomly shutting down, traction motors that can be disabled by a wet leaf, and many others.
You can cut that list at F40s. The F59s really aren't as great as everyone thinks. F69s were a total failure, due to their problematic Siemens inverters.
Depends on who you ask I suppose. I can see reasonable arguments for why all of the locomotives listed here can be good or bad. Every locomotive has its pluses and minuses.
@@Pensyfan19 If there’s an argument for F40s being bad, I don’t know about it. Sure, the originals only had 3000 hp and -2/3s only have 3200 hp, but they’re based on the 40 platform. The 40 platform was the last good thing EMD ever made, period. That’s why SD40-2s and GP40s are still in service, as well as F40s.
Awesome video!
0:24 i saw this everyday when i was in elementary school the tracks were right beside the school playground and every morning around 8:00 or a little bit later we always saw that f40ph leading or trailing on the Pere maquette train
Always thought it was wacky how the IANR gave it a Gyralight yet so tasteful too
My answer would be the EMD SD40-2. More of those are still around then F40PH's.
Doesn't look as cool though
Nice vid 👍
Unfortunate news. As of January 8th, the 678 has been cut up.
I heard, and I'm devastated to hear the news. I updated the description to reflect this.
Great video and nice history. 👍.
Glad you liked it!
F40PHR unit 404 is my most favorite Amtrak locomotive so when you get the chance please talk about it next.
I will definitely look into it. DE30AC 404 is also my favorite LIRR locomotive.
@@Pensyfan19 Awesome!!! Also could you please find out why EX Amtrak F40PHR unit 404 is at LTEX???
When you said 241 could be seen on the vermonter i think you ment the Montrealer as well. It was discontinued in 1995 and replaced by the vermonter which terminated in St.Albans VT instead of Montreal. Great video man keep up the great work👍😁
Glad you enjoyed and thank you for the correction.
Only one EMD SDP40F exists today and ran on BNSF until 2002 and was painted in the Meresk Seaboard paint scheme along with a SD40-2 then was put into preservation.
I am aware of that. Goes to show how many F40s are still around (with most of them being rebuilt from SDP40F Parts) due to their much better track record than the SDP40s.
EMD owns 2 other SDP’s
Just saw it parked. Welp. It will never lead the Hawkeye Express ever again and the Hawkeye Express is done for, so I went to go see it Idling at Bryant Yard.
Lol that photo is only iconic because it's the lead photo on the F40PH article on Wikipedia.
Correct...
Neat video man, there is one more f40 heritage unit though, metra f40phm-3 #211 is painted in a gray and red cbq paint scheme, the f40phm’s are quite unique themselves as they have a sloped streamlined cab giving them a look similar to a motorhome, because of this many rail fans have nicknamed the units winabagos
Thank you! I am well aware of 211 as it is my favorite Metra heritage unit, as well as the Amtrak F40 NPCU 40th anniversary train, but 678 was the first F40 to become a heritage unit for a shortline. Not too many locomotives can have that under their belt.
THEY WERE ALRIGHT IN THEIR DAYS, BUT IF YOU LIKE ROUGH RIDING LOCOMOTIVES , YOU WOULD LOVE THE F-40s!!!
THE F-3, F-7, F-9 MODELS WERE ALSO ROUGH RIDERS!
GIVE ME A 6 AXLE ON EQUALIZER
TRUCKS ANY DAY!!
I would think so since that's fewer axles. On the other hand, 6 axle power were considered smooth riders with even weight distribution. The SD9s were even called "Cadillacs" for their smooth riding.
Speaking of Ferromex two of their engines made it all way to Pennsylvania, and others surprises in this video linked below.
czcams.com/video/sGzcPBi_R94/video.html
Apparently got scrapped lmao
FXE never bought the 241... FXE only required the owner to patch it while in service in Ferromex lines...
It was used specially in the AOE/GrandeLuxe service in Mexico as the Chepe doesn't use HEP.... It's coaches are self contained with independent diesel enginators...
Thank you for clarifying that. An F40 with Ferromex lettering is still an interesting site to see, hence my original motivation for making this episode.
@@Pensyfan19 quite an event. Big fan of your videos. I wish FNM wouldve HEPed its equipment and acquired F40PHs
The IANR just chopped all of their passenger excursions and thier passenger cars are being sold, not sure to who. right now 678 is sitting in Waterloo with an unknown future.
I'm sorry to hear that info about passenger service. I just hope that whatever happens, 678 still gets preserved, or at least stays in its Rock Island livery.
@@Pensyfan19 the northern rosters rebuilt F40's with shortened noses for easier crew access, 678 isn't rebuilt but I'm sure it will end up somewhere, whether it's trailing on something or gets sold
What a video... Too bad IANR (now sold to CN) cut her up in 2023.
Did you know NJ Transit lended some of their redundant ALP-44’s to Amtrak to help clean up the North River Tunnel after Sandy caused a lot of mess.
I heard of that happening during sandy. I think Amtrak needed extra electric power that could be used in the tunnels since diesel locomotives are not allowed in there due to their fumes.
She's been scrapped..
Ferro mex my dude
Here I’m the west it would be the SD40T-2
8:10 this will upset some foamers but I don't care:
*I like f40phs in any color except amtrak*
What Happened To 315?
After returning from Alaska, 315 was sold to TransiTech Incorporated and has last been seen in the NCDOT yard in Raleigh NC in 2012.
Whatever happened to 383?
According to the F40PH Preservation Society (yes, that is an actual website), 383 was last owned by Rail World Locomotive Leasing and was stripped of parts at MMA Derby in November 2006.
Is there anything unique about EX Amtrak F40PHR unit 404???
I'm not sure, other than being in a group of a few F40s in the Phase IV livery, and of a smaller group to be sent to LTEX. Don't worry, I'll be covering it sometime soon.
@@Pensyfan19 OK thank you. 404 is my favorite Amtrak F40PH by the way.
Hey pensyfan could you do the SDF 40-2 6976(former Amtrak 644 former Santa Fe 5266 and former BNSF 6976) the last mainline diesel and it was preserved by dynamic rail preservation alongside F40PHR 231
I will also look into that locomotive.
@@Pensyfan19 go search dynarail.org they have information in 6976 service life and 231 service life
@@Pensyfan19 6976 & 231 both reside at Nevada southern railway museum in boulder city
After doing some research on the locomotive and a few other locomotive series on CZcams, I am going to have to decline this request for 6976, as Amtrakguy365 has already covered the locomotive in his SDP40F episode of Engines of Amtrak, and I do not want to go over a locomotive which another channel went over in detail. Thank you for suggesting this locomotive nonetheless as it shows that people are interested in the series, and the next locomotive to be covered in the series (Green Mountain 405) was recommended to me by a fan of the series, so I will still listen to my fans and try to incorporate their ideas into my series.
What happened to amtrak 328?
F40PHR 328 was scrapped at Beech Groove in 2003.
@@Pensyfan19 Can you do another top 10 video, but your favorite locomotives?
@@thetriclopsguy122 Since I am into trains from around the world and that there are a good amount of locomotives which have legendary status, I'm not sure if I could do one based on certain aspects. Many locomotives are great for different purposes, such as speed, strength, endurance, shelflife, etc. Although, I might consider [eventually] making a video of my top 10 favorite locomotives of all time, given that my opinions might be based on being used to certain locomotives more than others, even if they were not as successful as others. This would also take A LOT of time to make since I would have to decide 10 of many locomotives from around the world which I would consider my favorite.
0:00 ahem... SD40-2?
Varies per person.
then the IANR cancelled the Hawkeye Express
Hence the edited description. I just hope it returns sometime soon, and that 678 is still used for some excursions in the future.
@@Pensyfan19 thay said they cancelled it because of covid and need for equipemnt upgrades
Hey I don't know if your taking requests/suggestions for this series, but if you are I would like to recommend DRGW 5402.
Drgw 5402 was an SD40t-2 that was involved in a wreck on the Tennessee Pass in 1989 with two other DRGW units (those being 3108 and 5408). Luckily, despite the fact that it was pretty banged up (photo here www.drgw.net/gallery/v/DRGWDieselContainer/SD40T-2s/DRGW5402/drgw_5402_pueblo_co_1989_000.jpg.html ) it was deemed repairable by NREX and was rebuilt was an SD40-2 in 1993 (photo here www.mountainrailway.com/Roster%20Archive/CP%205400/St.L&H%205449.htm ). It was then sold off to Canadian Pacific and became CP #5449 in 1994 then STLH 5449 in 1998. Then it was rebuilt again in the year 1999, and sold to FURX the following year where it became FURX 3021. Finally, after all of that, it was sold to the Alabama and Gulf Coast Railroad some time around 2013 where it still remains as AGR 3375.
An interesting fact about this locomotive, is that its shared most of its history (post rebuild) with another engine, CNW 6910. CNW 6910 was involved in a wreck where it ended up being totally messed up (photos here www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1014562 and here www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1070155 ) and ended up being sold to be rebuilt and was bought up by CP and numbered 5447. Then it was sold to STLH, then FURX, and finally AGR.
So if you haven't got it yes, the similarities of both engines are that ended up working on CP, STLH, FURX, and AGR because they where involved in two separate wrecks that made them end up switching owners, and ever since, they've been "living" almost the exact same existence.
That is a very interesting story. I'll definitely look into further information for an episode in the future.
@@Pensyfan19 Oh yeah, heres some info on the wreck www.drgw.net/info/index.php?n=Main.TP1989Wreck
They're actually not bad looking units, sans the repulsive Circus Train stripes of Amtrak.
I don't speak Spanish, but I can tell you that that was some of the worst pronunciation I've ever heard. I take it that you don't hear Spanish often?
I tried señor. I went up to Spanish 3 in school, but I'm not used to pronouncing somewhat "complicated" words en español. I'm decent at spanish, pero no muy bueno.
@@Pensyfan19 Esté preparado para presentar su boleto de Metrolink si lo solicita. Por su seguridad personal, mantenga los pasillos libres de pertenencias personales. Si ve un paquete sospechoso a bordo del tren, infórmelo al conductor de inmediato. La seguridad es una preocupación de todos.