How to Charge The Ford F 150 Lightning Deep Dive
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- In this video, we cover everything you need to know about charging the Ford F-150 Lightning. It's a comprehensive review that also explains basic EV charging so even the novice can understand. We know it's a long video, and that's because we went for thoroughness over brevity since most F-150 Lightning owners are experiencing electric car charging for the first time.
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:40 Basic info about the 3 levels of EV charging (for beginners)
5:42 The dual-voltage Ford Mobile Charger
10:08 How long does it take to charge using the Ford Mobile Charger
12:11 Does the Mobile charger supply 32-amps or 30-amps?
13:50 How to install the Ford Mobile Connector
15:39 The 80-amp Ford Charge Station Pro
19:56 How long does it take to charge using the Ford Charge Station Pro?
21:35 Why does the Ford Charge Station Pro use a different connector?
23:04 The 48-amp Ford Connected Charge Station
25:50 How long does it take to charge using the Ford Connected Charge Station?
26:45 DC fast charging the Ford F-150 Lightning
29:30 How long does it take to DC fast charge the F-150 Lightning on a 150 kW station?
31:40 How long does it take to DC fast charge the F-150 Lightning on a 50 kW station?
32:53 The FordPass Charging Network
33:49 Plug&Charge
34:50 Using charging equipment from 3rd party suppliers
35:34 Using Tesla charging stations to charge the Ford F-150 Lightning
39:15 The Ford Intelligent Backup Power feature
42:41 Outro
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Note: @16:30 in the video I say that you need to install the Charge Station Pro on a dedicated 100-amp circuit. That was the information we had at the time. Since then, I learned that you could de-rate the unit, all the way down to about 24-amps if you don't have the full 100-amp circuit to spare.
Tom, I have been looking for more detailed install info on the Charge Station Pro since I’m in Non-SunRun serviced State. I’m working with my electrician so I can future-proof my install should I want to add the SunRun HIS at a later date. There is very little information out there…no detailed Charge Station Pro install manual from Ford, only a reference to DC conductors (no conductor size info) in the online wiring schematic available via SunRun’s sales partner, and no response from SunRun’s Tech Support. I finally got a hold of Delta’s (the HIS manufacturer) and they confirmed the need for a #8 copper pair for the DC return. Any chance you could do an in-depth helpful install video for us who have to figure out our install w/o SunRun? I know Ford listens to you and I feel they need to know there customers in non-SunRun states have angst over the lack of info that SunRun shares with those who are not going to be there customers….. 😎
A 100 amp circuit is more than some old houses which ran at 80 amps😮
@@firestop232 #8 for how long of a run? I'm curious if you have been able to find info for a 75' run, which is the distance from my electric panel to my garage.
@@michaelabelaj1581 l don’t know…I’ve lost most of my enthusiasm for installing Ford’s/SunRun’s HIS…I will probably wait for the 2nd or 3rd generation solution. I just got my truck last week, so receipt of my FCSP, and any install info that comes with it, is at least 1+ week(s) out. At this point, I’ve stopped wondering about having the ability to provide power to my house from my truck…with all of the reported FCSP overheating problems being reported at the 80A setting, I just want a safe EVSE that charges my truck as promised……..
If your truck indicates a ground fault you may have to have a qualified electrician isolate your ground and neutral.
As a first time owner of a Lightning I am very thankful for this video.
I’m not interested in an F-150 Lightning (maybe a GV60) but I still loved this video. Charging an EV is a different world and this video is full of basic and useful information.
Absolutely super! You've delivered so much great information in this video. As a Tesla owner, this makes me warm up to Ford EV product line. They've done a lot of things right.
This is a great video!! Never heard any of this detail before, not at this level. Never really gave that much thought as to what was needed and how much it would cost for V2H capability. I will be a 1st EV owner this year, either the R1T or the Lightning. Was an early pre-order holder for both. This video is exactly what is needed. Been a subscriber since seeing you on E for Electric. Thank you
They love customers like you.
OK well you say not at my house but why can't I just use an AC to DC battery charger ? Really. You already know. I'm on that level 3 A/C to D/C charging from my own house using a standard battarie charger that I buy from Harbor Freight from under 100 buks probably. Level 3 stuff. So? I've explained this process to many peoples so it definatly will work. That's it done. All you do is use a battery charger for this. Now you on a level 3 charging from your house so simple. Oh and if you have solar panels at your house that makes it even easier. Dont have to convert the energy. Already comes in naturally as D/C
Love the simplified explanation for those of us who aren’t electricians.
Great stuff Tom. Ford was smart not going too far off the rails and made the F150E look like a standard pickup.
Tom, did you get the extended range E150??
To each, their own, right?! Try not to be a Luddite. No chipped paint on the CT's 30X SS body, so I personally don't give a fig what it looks like.
@@geoffgeoff3333 Its the Luddites that have to be sold on BEVs, so Ford was very smart in appealing to their visual imagery of what a pick-up should be. Chevy will do the same. Not a fan of the CT looks, SS or not. Plus, we know the windows don't hold up to solid steel balls. Just ask Elon.
Minutes 41 - 43 are uniquely insightful, thank you for spreading the word!
Consumer based factual presentation! Good on ya!
Very well done. Best explanation I've seen. Thank you
Seriously impressed! I understand all this and got to say you’re the first person to go in-depth and actually be correct. Most get lost in the weeds but not you. Nice work man! Subscribing right now
Been researching the Lightning that I have a reservation in on…my dealer is ignorant and this gave me what I have been asking on charging it…Great info.many thanks
Great job! Nothing wrong with detail. Keep up the great work.
best charging education video I’ve ever seen regardless of the EV brand or model. Nice work.
Maybe the best information on electric charging. Thanks for taking the time to inform us.
Learned a whole bunch. Thanks, Tom!
I literally watched every second of this video!! I am new to EVs and this video gave me tons of information!
I watch CZcams videos a lot & never comment but I had to on this one… This is such an amazing video… very thorough & detailed. People who are looking for information about ev charging on the lighting is going to love you Tom literally… lol keep up the great work
Wow great video! Thanks for breaking down all the little details. Covered so many blind spots I would've had.
Love your deep dive on this topic Tom. Ford seems to have thought this through from an holistic standpoint but your analysis really helps pull it all together.
Great in depth video.
You brought up something I had to deal with back in 2015 - upgrading service. Hard to believe, but it has only been since 2004 that new homes are wired with 200amp service (mandatory). Most homes are not capable to add a 60 amp charger, let alone a 100 amp charger.
Super thorough review. Appreciate the sharing of knowledge. That’s an amazing truck ford is pushing out there and for the price it’s quite good. Looking forward to your review of the vehicle and all the testing.
Excellent breakdown of the charging options & ways to charge. I needed this! Thank you!
Just placed my Lightning order today. Terrific information! Thank you for sharing Tom.
How do you like it?
This was very helpful. thank you. I hope you enjoy your new ride.
Excellent video. Super informative
I appreciate your accuracy and clarity - excellent video!
I listened to every word!.. it's very educational.. I've done tons of research on electric vehicles. I've watched the CZcamsrs cover the differences in Rivina, Ford, Tesla, GM Hummer, etc so i've got a good graps how everything works & the gimics they try to pull.. but this video servies as a full in depth source you can revisit & review over time... Shorter video is fine, but you can always referance back to this one if they want more info!.. Keep it up
Fantastic Video for the new-to-EV Ford Lightning owners.
Super informational! Thank you!
Excellent article. Really well done, covered off everything in good levels of detail. Thank you
Lately I've been interested in getting an EV and I found your videos, and think they're highly informative and entertaining. Thank you! Looking forward for more Lightning and hopefully Cybertruck videos!
As usual great video from Tom.
I am also waiting for my F150 lightning but I already have mustang Mach E standard
range and charging looks to be exactly the same. I have had my Mustang Mach E For a coyuple of months now and I love it. I am leaving Atlanta area and already went down to Florida for 400 mile trip. Are used
electrify America phone Application to find DC fast charging stations And there are plenty of them Conveniently located along main highways. I was able to go from 10 to 80% charge in 30 minutes Which on my
standard range Mustang was going from about 23 miles to 200 miles of range. Electrify America stations are usually located next to Walmart, Sam’s Club or other shopping areas so you can take a 30 minute break to get some food and you will be on your way.
Great video! Answers a lot of questions I had. I like your shout out for your dealer at MSRP instead of adjusted market value. Richmond Ford in Virginia is the same way (no markup) for those looking to be treated fairly further south.
Very informative video. As a new F150 Lightning standard range owner, this video helped me understand alot of things that may have not been properly explained throughout the purchasing process. Thank you for ALL your information videos
This was very helpful information. Thanks!
Always support NJ content creators. Great video, very informative.
Tom, I learn so much from you....thanks buddy I appreciate you!!
You're welcome!
Thanks Tom, another excellent presentation.
Great Video, great information about EV charging. I have been charging my Mach E with 110V for the last 6 month, now I need to install 240V for Faster charging. Thanks a lot
Electrician is at the house now, I've referenced this video what feels like 160k times 😄 leading up to this moment to make sure I tell him GROUND UP for the ford mobile cord. Thank you so much for this guidance, Tom! We'd be lost without you.
Great video, and I learned a lot about changing not just a Ford but all electric vehicles. Thank you
Excellent video! Thanks very much!
Excellent and comprehensive review of Ford F-150 Lightning charge options. No where else was I able to get the full picture of what is supplied by Ford and what options you have with it as well as what it takes to have those options available to you at home and on the road. Thanks, I feel much more informed now and can actually consider the implications of buying an EV or an F150 Lightning.
Great video Tom.
Extremely helpful. Thank you.
Very interesting and covered everything
Not in the market for an F-150, heck, I'm not even from NA, but this video was chokeful of great info! Well done sir!
Boss level reached. 💯 💪 this should be required watching for anyone considering an EV purchase. So helpful and i have a lot to think about. Been wanting to downgrade in size froma f350 diesel and love the lighting features.
This is a really really really good video. Thanks for making it
This was and excellent video. As a perspective F150 Lightning owner I feel a little bit more educated and prepared when I take delivery of my truck. Thanks.
I bought an EV recently and have been educating myself on all things EV. This is without a doubt the best EV channel I have watched. I subscribe to no channels whatsoever, zero, zilch, nada, but I will subscribe to this one. Well done.
No apologies, sir. Comprehensive is good, especially as it relates to Lightning. Thank you!
As usual, a very thorough technically detailed video from Tom. Nice to see that Ford has addressed all these different charging needs with a well thought selection of accessories to fit individual needs and electrical panel limitations. I think they will do very well with this electric F150, for both contractors and individual homeowners. Ford should link to this video on their Lightning web site; I don’t think their manual writers could do any better at explaining how to get the best charging setup for a new F150.
So much great info. Thanks very much! I'm a newbie electric driver and newbie Lightning owner (2023 Lariat ER) and it's a pretty steep learning curve.
Best video on electric charging I've seen
Thank you!
Great video, thank you!
Great video sir. Appreciate it! First time EV owner, Lightning scheduled to be built the week of 4/18. 🙂
Thanks so much for this video. Bought a 3.5 ecoboost not long ago. Was thinking about maybe getting a powerboost in 2 years. Pretty sure I'm gonna buy a lighting now tho. What a peice of engineering!
Don't forget the 70 mph range test when you get your ford lightning. I'm looking forward to seeing that as well.
The first thing I'll be doing!
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney you can come out to pittsburgh and do another one with my camper. 3500 lb range.
@@bradbeckett3800 Yes, that will be the most interesting test. My camping trailer is 2500# with a maximum of 3500 and it's vaguely aerodynamic
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney I'm already subscribed, just waiting on the video. Thank you.
I had a question about whole home backup for homes with solar. Can you simultaneously charge your truck with the solar on your roof and provide power to your home?
Great info! Subscribed.
Very insightful video.
Thank you
Thanks for the deep dive, Tom. Sure would like to see a midsize electric pickup but I love the V2H power option. Since Tesla and Rivian are not offering this right now, this is probably my current direction. Plus that Cybertruck - blech!
Good stuff, Tom.
Nice presentation, I learned a lot!!
Finally I found the charging information I was looking for -- in your video! I have a Lightning Lariat extended battery model on order, but there was very little information available that describes the different charging options and the chargers that come standard with the Lightning. Your video answered all of those questions. Yes, it was a long video; however, it had all the information that I needed to hear. I was already concerned that the 80A Charge Station Pro would not be a feasible solution because I doubt I can provide dedicated 100A service for its use without breaking the bank. The 48A charger may be a viable alternative -- once my electrician checks out my situation. Thanks again. You done good! Lou from Georgia.
I have a Charge Station Pro, you can turn its Pilot Signal all the way down to 16amps for use on a 20amp circuit. There is a amperage table in the manual. You should get a Charge Station Pro included with your ext range level, install that and set it for what your panel/installation can handle. Don't spend $$ on another EVSE, you don't need to.
This is awesome Tom! Been following evs out on the tundra of S Dakota since early days of Tesla (sadly ddnt invest!). Anyhow, I'm first wave invite for f150 pro (I build a bit and have rental property) and actually know a fair bit about electricity! but just thought i'd figure it out when the truck gets, now I know thanks to you! The ev community seems to be full of really cool/interesting people, as my son and I were in Austin tx just before Covid got real for the fully charged live at the race track. I got really hooked there as have a few olde cars that would like to convert to ele when batteries get solid state levels of energy density and safety. Also love seeing you with the guys on inside evs (esp when Kyle isn"t interrupting ). Keep it up/ get healthy(hope that isn't long covid) and hope you are as jazzed for lightning as I. I think that truck will sell even more cybertrucks as ford will normalize lekky trucks. I'm ~ 500,000 on tesla list for 3 motor ct. ~ roger
Wow thank you for this great information
Great Video. So Pumped to get my Ford Lighting.
Excellent explanation.
Thank you! Exactly what I wanted to know.
Tom congrats on a great video. I wonder if anyone has asked about charging an electric vehicle with a portable power source? I see some portable battery products emerging into the markets. There are also some higher priced gas generators with low harmonic distortion that, with an adaptor, may be able to power a vehicle enough to get a car or truck out of an impacted area in the event of a natural disaster or long term power outage.
Great Content.
Great compendium on EV Charging as so much of this applies to all EVs. After 4+ years of EV charging, I found it best to get the highest power equipment your home and budget will allow. Overnight charging works great and there’s no need to charge every day when driving under 50 miles each day. But you may have a change in plans with only a few hours to charge and appreciate charging at 30 miles per hr vs 15.
Excellent Video. Just spent 2 hours at the Ford Dealership being told an endless story of lies.
Very informative and practical video. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Great video really appreciate the info. I was able to pick up one from a dealership today. I was to get them down to MSRP but I couldn’t believe how much they were charging over MSRP to start.
Would you please talk to ford and get details about how the house powering actually works? I live in Puerto Rico and the power goes out every few days. Will the truck instantly and automatically power my house or is this something I have to toggle on every time with an app?
Most transfer switches have to be manually switched. Hoping this one is intelligent.
You're going to need the correct main line disconnect but I don't see how it can't be set up to be automatic and be current sensing on the grid side to see if power has returned. I don't think it would be instantaneous because you would need to disconnect power from the grid before turning on power from the truck.
@@Marko343 how does a power wall do it instantly?
A third party solar company has to install a grid-tie inverter system between the Ford 80 amp evse and you're house. It will transfer automatically when utility power is lost and resume charging when utility power is restored. And you can set a lower battery limit so it doesn't completely drain the truck battery.
Great video
I watched the whole thing, i feel smarter about EV and charger's now.
Awesome 👏 content Tom, I am not a Truck guy but I out in to buy one of this truck for backup power for house .. cost less then putting in 130+kWh power wall..and if I ever need a truck i can use it too crazy 2 for 1 .. may even use it to run my mining rigs and use public free level 2 charging station to run the full thing crazy ..
Wow dude, we have the same brain!
You're gonna pay 80k+ when you're not a truck guy? The 40k version won't be available to your average Joe, only to business fleet.
Thanks for the detailed video. For me, it show that I’m not ready for an EV just yet.
Thanks Great Video
Finally, relevent information ! Thank you for this.
Thank you for sharing
Thank you for the comprehensive video. Sounds like the extended range is a good deal even if just for the charging speed. Now If I could only get it in an 8 foot bed with the lower ride height. I use my 1994 F-150 for lawn service. The taller truck would blow my knees out pretty quick. And that 8 foot bed would mean I could bid on jobs that a 6 foot bed just can't do.
Thanks very informative
Great video. Very informative for a 1st time EV buyer. Waiting for my F150 Lightning.
when is the ETA
@@fireislandmavic5939 I’ve heard wave 1 orders should be May - June. My order is looking like wave 2, which I am guessing would be June - July…but your guess is as good as mine.
Great information as usual, Tom. I'm not in the market for the Lightning, but I hope it is successful. I appreciate that you included a refresher of Level 1, 2 and 3 charging- it's helpful because not everyone watching is at the same level of understanding.
there is no lvl 3, its dcfc which he went over in the vid.
@@laloajuria4678 You can use both terms, friend- google it and you will see. But really- My comment was a compliment to Tom. Why you needed to wrongly correct me is curious. But whatever, hope it made you feel good.....😁
Fantastic Video
Thanks
Another great video! Thanks Tom. I really appreciate your content. Your channel is a really excellent source of EV information. When you guest spot on other channels you’re typically the best par to the video. Any chance you would be willing to do a weekly (or bi-weekly or monthly) news update on the EV world? I know other channels do it but you are objective and BS-free. There is a lot of spin and other nonsense on other sites. Just asking. Keep up the great content. Cheers.
Nice video 👍🏼
Thanks,I'm very interested in the lightning
this was excellent thank you
Great video by the way
Thanks for producing this very professional and very informative video! I'm too late to reserve an F150 Lightning (maybe later this year), but the information is invaluable to educate me about what is generally involved in owning and home charging and EV. I am in the process of choosing a solar panel system and installer. Your comments regarding the DC charger got me wondering if charging the Lightning directly from DC solar panels is a possibility. Do you have any knowledge about that possibility you could share? Thanks again. I have subscribed so I look forward to more exceptional content.
Great explanation Tom.
Wish more people were like you Tom by doing the responsible thing and not attend events etc, CES in your case, when they know they are COVID-19 positive - unlike a certain well known tennis player. Well done you for being so community minded. The pandemic is a pain in the backside but it's impacts should've become relatively inconsequential by now if only people would do the basics so that the world could move on to the endemic phase. Hope you've fully recovered. All the best 😀❤️
Great info 👍🏼
Watched the hole thing wow 😳 TMI To Much Information for some people who are probably beginners can't wait for the condensed/ shorter version.
It's coming as soon as I get the truck.
Wow excellent video. I wish I had access to this video when I purchased my 3 three years ago.
The F150 Lightning will be an excellent product. If Ford can deliver a quality and reliable product. The back up power that 99% of the Lightning buyers will never use is amazing. The fact that the lighting has so many Ac outlets makes it massively useful. Ford had to make some Serious compromises to get the Lightning to market in a timely fashion. This is a first generation product from Ford.
The Charging speed is borderline obsolete. In 2022 you should be able to charge from 10% to 80%. In under 1/2 hour Dc fast charge and 8 hours on 240 volts. I do not believe Ford engineered in more capacity to charge. Now most people will feel the need to upgrade on the next generation 3 to 4 years from now. Ford is also not competitive with its gas trucks when it comes to towing and high mileage days.
For the Next 2 years Ford will have the only mass produced electric pick up. It will take at least till late 2023 for Chevy and Tesla to get up to speed. Both the Cybertruck and the Silverado seem to have much more to offer at a similar price point. The Rivian is a smaller Truck and it will take a few years for them to put out trucks in any real numbers.