Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 - MUCH Bigger Than Expected
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- New details are revealed in a new interview with PG Gamer for Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024. The details highlight the extent to which it will be possible to walk around in the new sim, and hint at how vast the game is going to be.
PCGamer Interview: www.pcgamer.co...
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as an australian, the words “good internet connection” are a little soul destroying.
I bet the CIA missile base in Australia has great internet, they could have it country wide if they wanted.
Starlink should be an option
@@DeanCalaway LOL okay
lmao. Hang in there brah
As a New Zealander words “good internet connection” isn’t an issue 😂
If my sofa is the wrong colour in the game I'll be annoyed.
If I’m not able to play as myself playing flight simulator in real time I’ll be sorely disappointed.
Awesome
@@ryanc4955If I cant head to Putin's Nuclear base and interact with the buttons to send input signals to the real base, Ill be pissed.
You must be a helmsman.
Cloud based clouds. ☁️
Could be haha! Well cloud based clouds we have had since Microsoft Flight Simulator 2000 - at least then you could download real world weather for the first time. Thank you copilot!
Badum Tss!
‘Connection lost, press any key to continue to see clouds’
@@TickleFight94 You just gave me PTSD from the connection issue popups that completely kill the controls whenever they pop up.
Speaking of which, I hope Asobo has fixed that already, I know they were going to as that was a topic in the live streams a while ago.
On final after 8hr hour flight *server connection lost*.😊
I really, REALLY hope they have a 2 player in 1 plane option for multiplayer.
No they wont. That's slated for post 2024 (2024+).
@@dtrjones kinda sad they had that and tower in msfs-x
2020 was supposed to have that and they dropped it for development in 2024, so I'm assuming it'll be in there.
You need to live at Microsoft and sign away all your data for that feature.
@@soaphelpsIt's coming, and by the looks of things, it will be ridiculously full featured.
my house is in FS2020 already but my entire city looks like its been taken over by an unusually aggressive forest
same, look at the size of the tree's around st paul's catherdal in london 2.0
That's almost as bad as the large trees near runway thresholds or at various points on some of the airfields I've seen.
That's the Ents going to war.
I can't promise this will be fixed. We do know that tress will be 3D and they will be more accurate in terms of type for that locality, however none of that means tree sizes will be fixed.
Smaller trees mod was a game-changer for me as I'm primarily busy flying, it's a must.
Not so bothered by the install size - but PLEASE get it to the Main menu/home screen quicker.... No point in loading all sorts of libraries/textures upfront if all I want to do is change some config settings and restart the program. I would be quite happy to do the waiting after I click the "Fly" button... 🤷♂
They announced that loading times will be significantly faster. And textures will load in the cloud.
Even Eagle Dynamics seems to understand that now... They should all take a look at Flight Gear.
I hope they have a mission that is a reversal of a Forza Horizon trope. Instead of having a player driving a car in a race against a plane, you are now flying a plane/blimp/hot air balloon against a sports car.
That would be an awesome mission! :)
A normal hit air balloon, or fsx hot air baloon
400 knots going vertical @@tomaszkarwik6357
@@tomaszkarwik6357 Mach 2 hot air balloon
Chinese “weather balloon.” 😂
As you said, not having an offline mode will really suck for people without good internet. 2020’s photogrammetry was unplayable when I didn’t have a good connection; I’ve only been able to enjoy it for the first time recently.
If the majority of the resources are on the cloud, I think it’d be awesome if we could download custom areas we want to fly in like how you can download offline maps on a phone.
When I played MSFS2020, it let you download custom areas, so hopefully you can do 2024 too. I got that disk space 😂
You can already cache specific areas in FS2020.
If they would make a offline version you have to download the whole map witch wil take around 2-3 petabites (1 petabite = 1000 Terrabites) So that is why
@@joelmulder Can you cache areas based on a flight plan? Or just a radius around a center point?
@@eracer1111 Just based on a specific pre-selected zone. But you do have pretty granular control, so caching a low altitude flight route would is possible manually.
That’s what she said
Dangit! I'll get em one of these days
@@MDWavemasterThat’s what she said!
@@velvetjones8634 DANGIT!
No, she prob didn't
@MDWavemaster it's okay, the second time is always better
I'll believe it when I see it
I have definitely not been this excited for a version of MSFS...well, ever.
You wont feel exited the day they shut the server down after spending lots of money on planes and scenery addons.
@@Gazer75that day won’t come for a very very very long time lol
@@Gazer75 why not? by the time they shut the servers down, I'll have had my fun with likely what amounts to less than $2000 worth of content. I spend more than that on tires for a 6 hour track day.
@@Kilanov Good for you that you can afford to burn that kind of money. Not everyone is as privileged as you. 2k would be 2/3 of my monthly income gone in a day.
I spent probably around what would be 500 USD today on FS9 stuff back in the day not counting the CH Yoke I got.
FS 2024 will probably be well over 100 USD alone.
@@Gazer75
For what its worth, if its of any comfort to you, the average length of time that a microsoft/xbox title has live servers is just over 12 years.
Are we really going to worry about potentially losing payware support in 2036?
If the answer is yes, then, SimPlaza is your friend. Personally, I don't think PMDG deserves anyones money after that last fiasco anyways
7 pieces of footage looped 24 times
While these all sound nice, they really are going to need to improve the streaming and performance of the software, for both Windows and consoles.
I couldn’t care less about wild life, walking around the airplane and flying over my own house.
Give us proper weather, ATC and IFR/VFR traffic
Go play xplane then
@@andrew3084 but scenery is crap? bit blunt mate, I prefer the msfs feel like others.
ATC is already good? Vatsim requires controllers to go through training which makes them as close to the real deal as possible. And FSLTL is also extremely accurate and nicely textured traffic. Some people like you will never be satisfied and always bitch and moan, I guess...
There is a free SIM with real weather and u can fly over your house 🏠.
@@andrew3084 I cannot use it as my graphics card does not support Vulkan. Though there is a free SIM that I prefer.
flight sim 2026 is going to simulate hunger, delays, fights with co workers, relationship trouble from always working, economic trouble from decreasing pay and rising inflation
And eventually, it will turn into a full on life simulator lol
I think this is M$'s backdoor metaverse.
...consequences for saying the 'B' word and dealing with unruly passengers. lol
all i want is working window wipers and I will be happy 😂
Zzzzzz
@@Two2Hands ?
@@RIdersfan232 we do have them now, but yeah for default
@@SoupGuyy We have wipers, but they do not clear water, which is a key part of flying in the rain.
@@RIdersfan232they do on several 3rd party planes tho
Being heavily server based is a worry, ignoring internet drop outs; what happens when they turn the server off?
I like perpetual ownership, not effectively a limited time license
Then buy another game. Not every game have to be for everyone.
Dude. It’s the whole world. Modeled, textured, and everything. If you don’t like cloud gaming, this is not the game for you. Go buy a 5 terrabyte drive and download the entire servers
All the bells and whistles look great, but untimately it's a flight simulator and the emphasis should be on the accuracy of the aircraft handling.
You don't care about Golf Carts??
Agreed. Hope they improve their flight model
Exactly! So many people are expecting some sort of GTA competition.
I may have missed it , has there been confirmation that 2024 is still a “purchase” or a subscription? More cloud, thinner client stinks of subscription. Maybe not 2024 but the next release.
@@deanna6359 I was just about to say the same thing ! I would not be surprised if there are multiple tier levels of subscription for say standard and premium. I hope I am wrong but I have a funny feeling I won't be. As you already mentioned everyone else is going down the subscription route.
they already stated in Q&A its a single purchase, gotta remember that it's in gamepass and they also make a big amount of money from their store
@@deanna6359It's not going to be a subscription at all. It doesn't make any sense.
Somehow not surprised Asobo is named relatively similar to Adobe
Yeah, I’m just wondering if I have to spend 100 bucks
And have to transfer all of my mods over
I heard the aircraft that I have gotten in the game will be transferred over
But what about my mods?
What about my VATSIM qualification?
They really need to take VR and dynamic foveated rendering seriously.
The VR industry needs to take ease of use and wearer comfort seriously first. VR is silly for a typical consumer - barely changed from its early days yet.
@@getsideways7257you have options like bigscreen beyond now. Things have improved.
Nobody uses VR anymore, i upgraded to Tobi, immersive, unobtrusive and you don't need to mimic the blind. VR Rip
@@davewills6121 for the past couple years I’ve played almost all games in VR. It’s the ultimate way to play games.
Still waiting for the 2020 promises
Then you're missing out, well done you! Try a different hobby!
What promises? If they have already fulfilled them.
@@dtrjoneswhy, because they expect what they paid for? Things like shared cockpit were promised in the road map, and they just sidelined features like that for 2024.
Nothing was "promised", just additional features added on a roadmap that got superseded by other more popular and important features, content and bug fixes.
Exactly!
I like to fly through clouds, not based on them.
Well... You WILL be flying through them, in a sense
I really hope this means that in the next version (after 2024) they’ll be able to make it even more of a “world sim”.
Add drivable cars, trains, and boats.
Use some common sense - it isn't possible
It’s software, of course it’s possible. There is no physical limit preventing a multimodal sim.
Hell, it already exists, just not in a product regular consumers can buy.
VBS4 is a military simulator by Bohemia Interactive (the developers of ARMA III) made for military training.
It can do combined arms (ground, air, sea) on a whole-earth map. It’s not a game of course, and not nearly as pretty as MSFS, but it’s almost exactly what many people hope MSFS (and ARMA 4) will one day be.
How’s that for common sense?
@joelmulder multimodal isn't the problem. The problem is a global scale environment that is both true to life, and not dog shit ugly from ground perspective. It's not physically impossible, but it's practically unfeasible
@@jacksos101 It not being dog shit from ground perspective is LITERALLY what they said we’ll get in fs24. Did you not watch the video? That was its entire point. smh…
@joelmulder you're quite naive if yoh think they can make the whole world, hell, even ONE CITY look fps quality from the ground.
At most, you might have a dozen airports that are high enough quality to walk around.
Come back to this convo after release
Install size will be less than half of 2020.
Me, someone with bad internet: nice!
more of the sim will be on the cloud
Me: Oh ...
Don't forget your data cap! Hope you don't want to play often.
Starlink..,
@@shahbazfawbush is not nearly as viable or widespread as you think
@@rhadiem Data caps are not a thing here (at least not for home internet)
No offline option = no buy. I'm not going to rely on internet and a remote server when I want to play.
I didn't like the 2020 either with so much world data being online. If the server shuts down the game is pretty much dead and unplayable.
If I wanted I could still install FS9 or FSX and play it just fine even 20 years after its initial release.
It's not the simulator's fault that you have internet that came out of a landfill.
@@burgadahz17 I have rock solid gigabit internet that has not missed a beat in years. But my ISP does not control the entire chain to the server.
I disagree. This game is just made to be online. You might as well go play something else because there’s no way you can fit their entire database on your drive
@@Icequake. Exactly! Some of these commenters have no understanding or comprehension at all. Unrealistic expectations from couch potatoes.
It's either instanced where the quality is tunred up to 200% or just marketing bla bla.
If it's really possible to have this quality in first person everywhere in the world, I'll eat a broom.
Expectation - Better cockpit and flight model accuracy.
Realisation - Guy in a pink suit.
Makes no sense, are you saying the textures are missing?
@@dtrjones No. I'm looking for a more realistic simulator.
@@alistermunro7090 well I guess you mean the default flight model? MSFS 2024 is more realistic, separating the person from the plane is a pretty important concept don't you think for realisim? Remember though flight models can be done by third party as well. I do agree that DCS World has a more realistic flight model, but we'll see what MSFS 2024 brings.
Taking a shit is also very realistic but it would contribute nothing to a flight simulator
@@jacksos101 But we're getting better cockpits and flight model accuracy and we're getting a lot more to make things more realistic like wear and tear, more immersive roles. I honestly don't see the issue. So long as they cut out the bugs and it performs well, we're all going to benefit from the previous version.
Think this game rules me out then. No Fibre round here and limited to 25Mbits.
I'm generally very excited for msfs2024. However, I'm a little afraid that corporate Microsoft will do some fuckery with us. That has been a pattern for the last years with ms...
Forgive me for being a little miffed with your comment, but Microsoft could not have done more providing us with so much free content. If you think MSFS 2020 is in anyway poor value for money then I'm lost for words. MSFS 2024 will provide value for money believe you me.
Can you share some examples please?
@@breno802 the entirety of the windows 11 operating system
@@moonasha can you be more specific? I’m using windows 11 without issues atm. Is there something that I should be concerned?
@@breno802 the way Windows users are forced into using OneDrive. The way Windows users are forced into using Microsoft accounts instead of local accounts. The whole Microsoft "Total Recall" fiasco. The way I have to logon to my OneDrive account everytime I open Office 365... I could think of more...
5:14 great. So now your game won’t just be limited by your computer speed but your internet connection as well. Don’t think i like that idea, my connection sucks.
You forgot your data cap too. 😮
@@rhadiem it stores it after one load .... you wont have to keep DL it .
@@stephenfortin9485 They may add some sort of cache for our and their benefit.. as its a lost of cost streaming it if we want to download it
Internet connection is a 'You' problem.
I have zero interest in walking around my own neighbourhood in a sim. I've already done it multiple times in real world resolution.
But you could walk around anywhere else around the world... I'm sold.
@@getsideways7257 We have Google Street view. 100% realistic and is free.
We heard the same puffery of FS 2020. We were unpaid beta testers for the first few years. This time around I'm going to wait until FS 2024 gets baby teeth. FS 2020 was nothing but "crash city" for the first year. But I sure like it now. 🙂
I'll be waiting until it graduates - at a Doctorate level
Here’s what I think would be cool. Imagine starting out on foot, in the parking lot of a small GA airfield. You walk through the gate and onto the tarmac, where a bush plane awaits you. You pull off the dust cover, remove the various plugs and covers, check the fluids, wiggle the control surfaces, and generally inspect the plane to verify that everyhing is as it should be. You then get in the plane, start it up, taxi to the runway, and take off, headed out into the mountains. You spy a suitable clearing and land the plane. You retrieve your camping gear from the baggage compartment and set up camp. You watch the sun set and turn in for the night, and exit the sim. The next morning you start the sim again and resume your previous session-you’re still at your campsite. You pack everything up, check the plane again, and start it up, taking off from the clearing and flying back to the airfield. There, you land, park the plane, and finish your little bush flight/camping trip. About as close to the real experience as you can get sitting in front of a screen.
Similar scenarios apply to other kinds of flying. The super detailed airports have a purpose if you, as an airline pilot, walk through them to get to your aircraft, rather than just spawning in the cockpit and immediately starting the aircraft and taking to the skies.
Down the road it would be cool to see this as the basis of broader simulations that include aviation and other things. Imagine a forest fire fighting sim where you could be a pilot, but you could also choose to be a smoke jumper, or maybe drive a bulldozer to clear out firebreaks.
I want to be a passenger. I want to be escorted out of the TSA line
@@VintageRetrospekt Next thing you know we'll have terrorist mode, to hijack an airliner... smh
That. Except it's an AS350 instead of the bush plane.
Will be interesting to see what the game is actually like in reality...
True, but the graphics are ingame. That's not been mocked up. And for many the fidelity of the original sim is already decent - add to that 3rd party working on planes of higher fidelity and you don't have many areas of concern other than performance and bugs. I'd be interesting to know what you think might suffer from translation to the actual release. Of course your own expectation - can't do anything about that - you just need to be realistic about what's possible, that's on you.
What will it be like in reality? Well, it will be a masterpiece, just like the current simulator already is.
I'm more curious about how it will fly...
Maybe now I can finally get some time in with MSFS 2020, since it probably won't get huge updates anymore. The update system is so bad, and slow, that half my playtime is in fact downloading updates. Couple that with infrequent play, and half the time I launch I just give up and play something else.
It all sounds like a gimmick to me.
I mean, live shipping.....ok, but what about live GA aircraft? Right now, live traffic contains hardly any GA traffic so if you fly with live traffic most smaller airfields are completely empty.
What about ATC, will we be able to interact with other player flown aircraft now? Right now, you can see other players but that's it. You can't communicate, you don't hear they ATC transmissions, you can fly right through them with no effect....there is no way to interact with any other player in any way. Why not?
Live GA traffic is hard, a lot of GA traffic, particularly VFR aircraft, don’t have good quality transponders that are tracked by websites such as flightradar24
They need to focus on the basics. Functional, realistic ATC and shared cockpit for two-pilot aircraft are more important than career mode and rock climbing.
Well, developing these things isn’t something you can do in your sleep smarty
@@sup4303 For real lol Couch potato expectations!!
I just want to pick an aircraft, a starting airport and then hit fly. Hopefully that will be an option.
Ironically, only Flight Gear has it just like that despite being open source...
That’s an option in msfs2020 and will 100% be an option in 2024 too? What’s your problem?
@@optimised120 I assumed the thread starter meant it without having to load all the mumbo-jumbo. If the extreme loading times are not a problem, then sure it's already an option.
I live in Long Beach, CA (down the road from Los Angeles). Not exactly 'out in the sticks' for good Internet access. Have to depend on T-Mobile 5G Internet as other providers deem this corner of LB as not worth investing their infrastructure in. I have one other optional ISP that is more reliable, but costs about three times more. Hard to justify the additional cost just for this reason.
Having used MSFS 2020 since launch, I have found occasional issues downloading data from their servers because the bandwidth demanded does not match what T-Mobile can provide.
This issue of a 'thin client' raises major concerns with me. If I am concerned, it makes me wonder as to the reality for others less fortunate in their available/consistant/reliable bandwidth capacity. I seriously hope MS has thought this one through instead of getting high on implementing the latest and greatest because it is cool and looks so next gen.
Can you not afford Starlink? SL is designed specifically for people without good internet connections
@@ryanwells5348 At $120/mo. plus having to buy even just the $300 Standard Kit. That is just for the Internet access. At least the T-Mobile deal we have includes the same plus two cell phone lines for less. HArd to justify Starlink if just for that.
@@ryanwells5348 At three times the cost plus the initial layout of $300 it is hard for this 'poor' disabled person to justify.
Not much better here in southern Michigan.
I think an option for install size should be the users choice. I’d rather have all the files locally than trust the internet is working, or the servers aren’t down. Also I hope the flight model is improved. The current simulator tries to simulate turbulence but is way too aggressive IMO. I fly a 172 irl, and it’s not that realistic, the sim is good for instrument training although I’ve found VOR radials not accurate.
I don't quite like the mentioning of the "thin client". Chances are, part of the code will ALSO be running in the cloud, making it impossible to properly run this thing locally.
If that comes with a much improved CFD resolution and detail, I guess that is fine though.
Completely agree. Give us the ability to choose instead of forcing us onto the cloud.
My dream add-on/crossover for MSFS2024 would be if they did something with Jurassic Park. Like, imagine if they put in Isla Nublar, and you could fly around and see some of the different sites or watch the herds of dinosaurs. Maybe they could include an airstrip there that you can land at and do missions? Maybe like a rescue mission where you have to save someone stranded on the island? But I only dream…
would be nice if the customer could choose the amount of data to download for a smoother experiance.
Ahhh here we go. Paying for a license to own nothing. Microsoft is really trying hard.
Six months ago I went straight to X-Plane 12, after 2 plus years of MSFS, paid for the simulator, got a physical copy of it, what's even better is the fact that with a small team they made the sim look really nice, only missing the real world terrain, will have something new as mentioned by Laminar Research for the ground textures, but still...we own the bloody thing.
all I want is P3D systems, XPlane freedom, and MSFS graphics. Hell of a workload, but imagine how amazing it would be.
you can use auto orth + simheaven and it looks same like mfs. Its even better the cars really drove on the road with lights etc. and no big impact on performance.
Too bad its "aerodynamics" is still crap (and will always be). That said, X-Plane's helicopters can be pretty good.
@@Revoltec120 Well, I've ditched all my Microsoft systems, besides the XBox Series S that I use for MSFS. I run X-Plane 12 on a M2 Max 38c Mac Studio, that means I can't use auto ortho with my mac. There is a branch on GIT for Mac, but I can't make it work.
This
RIP Aussies
wonder what kinda computer will be needed to run this smooth, especially in VR?
The same as now? 2024 uses the same engine as 2020 and 2020 is based on FSX.
@@kaeptnbaloo that means nothing when it comes to vr.
Get a 7800x3d and a 4090 and don't stress it for years.
@@kaeptnbalooit doesn't use the same engine as 2020, that's the whole point of why they have redeveloped it.
@@barthvapour Not to mention 2020 does not use the same flight engine as FSX (although there is the option to switch to "legacy")
Requirements gonna be four 4090s for highest settings
I think it will be good, but the promises give me OG No Mans Sky vibes
NMS eventually delivered what was promised and much more. MSFS 2020? Not so much. Heck, even RNAV is still broken.
I remember the promises with 2020, still awaiting some of them to be fixed.
Nice, you just go with that and be miserable LOL! I guess you're one of those players who won't play Star Citizen until it deliver 100 star systems, or you won't touch Elite Dangerous because of the promised atmospheres in planets don't exist yet... These comments get old fast.
@@dtrjones Or you know, hear me out here...he could be one of those people who just want their promises honored, as anything else is straight up rip-off lies and marketing propaganda. But who knows, you seem to ride Microsoft's dick for any little promise.
@@dtrjonesThey failed to deliver what they promised in 2020 and are now listing them as features on 2024. Customers have the right to be pissed…
Well you’re gonna be waiting forever.
@@AGMTB. No wrong. Microsoft has a Wishlist, not a Promise List. The items got moved to 2024 and for good reason. That's just the way it is. And trust me, you'll want to move over too, I don't see what the big deal is?
Cloud based gaming is kinda worrying to me... My internet is pretty much shit... but I haven't a machine that can run this game anyways right now, so it's all good atm
Just remember this when the price tag comes up. If you can't put the whole game on your computer and play it offline, you don't own the game and it can go away at anytime they see fit.
MS is FOS. Itll release half broken and buggy. Most bugs will still be unpatched when 2028 releases.
Concern is that they haven't showcased a lot of the new features in gamegplay videos.
Yes it's starting to look like hype.... hopefully they haven't destroyed the core sim elements and replaced it with gamified mechanics
@@underleft Or more videos period. This November is just around the corner, after all...
As awesome as all this sounds, Imma take this all with a big grain of salt
Will that mean that players will be able to board another players plane online as a passenger? 🤔
DON'T board my plane... It's gonna crash 105%
I hope so. I may have buy this sim if that's the case. I've been wanting star citizen style features I'm Sims like xplane for a while now.
Microsoft said the same thing about Forza Motorsport. Look how that turned out.
That was developed by turn10 studios, msfs is Asobo, so most likely, it won't be a disaster.
Just don't jinx is for FS 2024. Been waiting a long time for this.
This screams too good to be true to me
Confirmed that VR support with be in the November release??
Yes, Jorg has confirmed it, and said it will be better implemented than in MSFS 2020 🙂
@@deanna6359what does that mean exactly? How will it improve vr ?
Hopefully a smoother experience
@@gregprouse1173 I don't know exactly, that's pretty much all Jorg said in the developer update. I guess some advantage will be that it's included from the beginning, and not an afterthought is it was in MSFS 2020
Just in time for my Rift S to stop working.
Anyone know when Microsoft plans on doing the internal models? I need to clean my room before that happens.
Believe this when I see it.
The performance of this sim is gonna be dire.
I doubt it. MSFS 2020 runs great on my PC at Ultra settings and looks fantastic, and I am on an old i9-9900k and an RTX 4070 graphics card. This looks a little better than 2020, but not drastically better to me, so I don't think it will be much more taxing.
@TomahawkAssault The issue is 3D stuff on the ground.
Everyone knows that the worst stuttering in 2020 is coming in to land as the airport renders, and Ai traffic kicks in.
Adding ultra 3D stuff on the ground will just make this worse.
I have many many hours in 2020, and have lots of fun… but there are still lots of problems! Hope the new one is a smoother experience
Walk up a mountain? I want to play Flight Sim, not walking sim!!
I fear that as they're creating so much additional content, they'll gloss over some of the more detailed flying mechanics that we've been able to enjoy in 2020.
Yep. Becomes a game not a sim
they are using 2020 as a starting point, the only way for them to miss them is for they to be outright removed, and they have already showed flight and fluid mechanics are still being worked on in the previews.
Microsoft star citizen
@@behindthen0thing Forza (Artificial) Horizon
What you are saying is an argument for accepting mediocrity and not wanting to innovate.
They can add land vehicles... Cars, trucks, trains, and why not boats.... With mods you could make into a railroad or trucking tycoon, a fast and furious game... Rocket sim? Imagination is your limit
They just need to make a social "game" in the vein of Second Life based around a 1:1 scale Earth model and different kinds of vehicles and they have the winner on their hands...
im really getting tired of always connected gaming. if i wanna play single player i wanna play single player.
Me too but we have to realize that the features of MS2024 just will not be possible with a local install. It's just the way it is. My backup is XPlane 12 which cannot touch MSFS graphically but it does look MUCH better than OFFLINE MSFS. It's also completely local installed so if for some reason my net goes down I have a fully functional sim.
is there a beta, where to try it? Until we test the game nothing is big. Thx
I'm just hoping i can play this in VR with my existing hardware (7800x3d with 64GB RAM, with RTX 4090)
No chance, sorry.
lol.
was surprised by how much of an afterthought VR was in FS2020. They didn't even try to make it work properly. The controls are clunk central and it runs terribly. Tired of flight sim developers refusing to implement proper VR controls into their flight sims. All I want is a VTOL VR control style with a realistic sim. Being able to reach out and grab controls, twist dials, hold onto the sidestick, etc. is what would make it truly a step in the right direction.
We are screwed, no chance it runs higher than 50fps from day 1... we will need the next next generation of gpus... lol
Lol
I think it's time for MS to rename that project to "World Simulator" in which you eventually fly here and there beside walking around or looking at ships, boats and whatever and doing other jobs.
I only want to know 2 things. How much and will they fix their damn servers so the download doesnt take 5 days!
you just reminded me of the disaster lol
I'm looking forward to trying the walk around feature in VR. It will also be good for exploring the handcrafted POI objects up close, as some of them are beautifully detailed.
I'm also curious to see how autogen buildings will look in MSFS'24. Hopefully an improvement over '20 , with inclusion of hospitals, schools, factories etc, as it wont only be more visually interesting, but could help with VFR too.
Remember, folks, "hype" is just short for hyperbole. Exaggerating the reality to promote a product. We should all be used to this by now. SOP.
Now they just need to merge Flight Sim, Ship Sim, Train Sim, Truck Sim, Driving Sims, Hunting/Fishing Sim, Supermarket Sim... etc into one single platform where everyone is cross playing with everyone else.
No need to go THAT far, but at least Asobo's version of Vehicle Simulator / Virtual Sailor NG would be great.
I believe that is called 'outside'.
@@Karackal Ewe... Outside has too many bugs.
@@Karackal Good luck getting into an AS350 whenever you like while you are "outside"...
I was excited up until I found it is cloud based. Great job reaching a new level of cluelessness Microsoft. You worked hard on that new achievement. 😮
They just don't care about people who live in rural areas.
So you wanna waste so much money on storage expansion cards? It’s a good thing for me, I play on xbox, have limited space, and can still experience the sim way better.
@@barthvapour They don't care about people period. That said, we probably have a fat chance of running something like that fully locally - let alone finding free space for installing that beast.
When Microsoft ship simulator?
Preferably all in one simulator...
But, can we walk around our planes? asking for my friend, Elite Dangerous.
We can walk around planes, the question you should be asking yourself is, can we walk around and see other avatars/players during multiplayer sessions.
@@dtrjones Very good point.
You can, and it's boring, you do it once and forget about it.
@@DeanCalaway You clearly haven't experienced some of the more advanced airplanes in MSFS. Trust me, there are these things caused failures which can happen randomly, it's now being introduced through wear and tear, you do not want to miss an inspection of the plane, so it will be routine. If you are a real aviation enthusiast you'll be outside of your plane everyday! 😁
@@underleft If you were a spice you'd be flour.
i just hope we will be able to see other players walking around. maybe just the people in your group but just some more multiplayer function with shared cockpit ofc
This will either be the greatest ever game up to this point, or one of the biggest overpromises/scams. What they claim that the sim can do is unprecedented in quite a few ways
Your heart knows the answer already...
Am I the only one who wants to drive a car in Flight Simulator? It's the digital Earth that makes me really excited about this game. Flying sometimes is fun too.
But is it going to be optimized at all concerning GRAPHICS? VR in mind.
They are areas so it doesn't really matter, it's not going to be as detailed anywhere else.
VR is still prioritized and with multi threading support, we might expect slightly better performance. As you said, optimization is the most important thing here, but with asobo still using the same engine, we can only hope.
Hype increasing! MSFS 2024 is already one of the best looking games ever made in my opinion.
If it means we'll finally be back on par with the FSX feature set, I might begrudgingly buy the game. Unfortunately FS2020 was a huge underdelivery. We _still_ are missing tons of features. Entire aircraft systems are just gone. MSFS has become more civilian. Not an entirely bad direction, but when it means we no longer have shared cockpits, no manned towers, AI that barely works, ALL alongside the loss of hundreds of planes due to the transition, it tends to piss people off. We don't even have functioning WX Radars... Even P3D has that. FS2020 did a lot of favours for XPlane.
...and then X-Plane shot itself through both knees and into both feet. The majority of simmers want amazing visuals as well as as systems, X-Plane just can't provide both, at least not until Austin wakes up out of whatever fever dream he's been having for the last 30 years.
@@EightPawsProductionsHD msfs has the worst systems of the big three so
@@EightPawsProductionsHD With X-Plane's "aerodynamics" all that does not matter...
Might as well rebrand to Microsoft Life Simulator 2024. I think it's too ambitious and I fear the "Flight" portion of Flight Simulator will become a suggestion than a main feature in this new title. Though I am curious to see if they will loosen the USB device restrictions on the Xbox. I bought the Series X to be a more or less dedicated Flight Sim box and expected to have the same freedom of Plug & Play, Mix & Match as I do on the PC (Thank You Xbox Play Anywhere). To say it was a regrettable decision would be a severe understatement...
Consoles suck
It sounds almost ridiculously broad in scope.
Almost?
It's scope is unfeasible without question.
While these scenic details such as animals are “cool” I worry the energy spent on these are only for initial hype and wow factor. I’d much rather see focused work on things like FMS, flight path, and systems logic. Maybe they are already full capacity in those areas though idk
@tomcharles8786
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...you either want to play, or to fly.....no other option...P3Dv5/6 + Orbx scenery, A2A aircraft + Active sky....the difference between truth and fantasy.....
MSFS 2024 = "Puffery" disguised as another flight sim that will never be completed.
Sure hope they can add some kind of smoothing on the roads so that we can drive vehicle on them without bouncing all over the place on every single ground poly vertex. Driving in some places is strangely compelling and enjoyable.
I just want the roads to not be green
@@moonasha Now that's just crazy talk.
@@moonasha see that would require they give up using bing maps... yeah thats not happening lol
It’s almost 2025
Yes it's the latest they could have released it, in my opinion. Let's hope this isn't a factor and the sim doesn't fall apart on release...
@@dtrjones Might as well just call it MFS 2025...
@@getsideways7257 but they wanna keep making a new one every few years, so if they name it 2025 the game will not feel as old
I'd love a CTAF for the airports that are non towered. It would be great to talk to the other airplanes in the pattern.
Does this mean “Mile high club” may be an achievement we can get now! 😅
Oh man, that thought never crossed my mind! “Leisure Suit Larry meets MSFS.” 😂
Dated myself with that one.
@@velvetjones8634 Last thing I expected to see in a video about MFS on this channel is a mention of the LSL series... Now I've seen everything
@@getsideways7257Glad I’m not the only one that remembers it! 😂
@@velvetjones8634 I wish I'd forgotten it already :))
Native, first class PCVR support. Most important feature!
This seems like a daft novelty tbh. Just a distraction that people will do a few times then just get back to flying.
Sure that's fine. But it's pretty obvious these are tied to the career mode which doesn't work without these extra curricular activites. Also you are completely underestimating what walking around a plane or location brings to 3rd party content developers. Rememer walk around inspection, wear and tear - do things things not mean anything to you? 6 months after launch, your comment is going to look pretty silly I think.
@@dtrjones Do you work for Microsoft? The amount of praise I have seen from your multiple comments under this video is staggering. If you aren't being paid, they should given how much you are trying to make the product look good before launch.
@@dtrjones The career mode doesn't need this fluff.
The vast majority of mods will concentrate on proper stuff like aircraft and terrain.
The focus should be on flying. Things like the graphics engine in a flight sim are never going to compare to say an FPS or a driving game for ground detail. Particularly when the entire world is represented. It's just going to end up being a bit clunky.
It's likely a novelty nothing more. It won't add anything serious. The time would have been better spent improving location detail adding planes and missions.
Ships being modelling is fine but wouldn't it have been better to model more things that, you know, fly?!
There are hundreds of features that would have been preferred to walking: Improved vr performance, better weather physics, more detailed cities, towns and landscapes, better sound design, more flying missions, like air racing air shows etc, better helicopters.
@@jonathanbowen3640 I think your going to get a shock. Don't compare this to stuff like Neofly because that's built on the same limited foundation MSFS is on now. I honestly don't know why this is difficult to understand. I guess some folks just need to actually see what's possible before they believe it. Trust me the aviation activities and future add-ons WILL include extra curicular activities as they will be part of the job being simulated. That's the variety the new platform gives, take it or leave it.
Subscription fees incoming?
2022 A Walk Around Mod became available for MSFS 2020.
Upon release, we all had the ability to fly and find our house. Why they say this as a feature in 2024 tells me what I already feared. 2024 is a cash grab. 2020 was such a success that they realized they could make another game and instead of making it available in 2020, they just will put out a new game and make more money. Nothing I have seen in 2024 makes me have any excitement to get it over 2020.
then keep playing msfs2020
Better physics.
And msfs 2024 is pretty much free
WHO HERE ALSO CANT WAIT FOR MSFS2028 FEATURING THE GAMEPLAY PROMISED IN MSFS2024
I can't wait. Love 2020 and this looks so promising.
This will be a subscription game, mark my words
Finally I can go hiking in China.
I am sort of new to Microsoft Flightsimulator and at the same time I am also a sort of an old veteran. I owned all copies of Microsoft Flightsimulator with the exception of the first one. For me MSFS started with MSFS II. However, I never took a deep dive into MSFS. I just liked to fly around in small aircraft. One of the reasons for this is that Microsoft never gave tools to explore more. Sure, there were flying lessons but that was always on a small Cessna and there was never a transition to airliners. There were bigger airplanes in the sim but there were no in game tools to learn how to fly them.
I really think it would help a lot of people if those tools were included. So, you could start your flying lessons on a Cessna and end those lessons after you know all the details of a big airliner. I really hope something like that is included in the new version. You can make a career in all kinds of expertise's, so I really hope that flight lessons for all these types of planes are included.
It's transitioning from a flight simulator to an everything simulator.
Good. I would love to fly to the coast, jump in a boat or jet ski, head out to a super tanker, do some great circle navigation to Saudi Arabia, then jump in a helicopter to one of the airbases, fly a fighter to perform an interception before heading to the UK for RIAT, then flying a jetliner back across the pond where I jump in a car and drive home getting stopped by another player driving a train. How cool would that be?
@@ImpendingJoker No, because the flying part would be lacking and it'll take forever to get anything done *coughs* Star Citizen *coughs*
@@ImpendingJoker There is a reason that most simulators stick to simulating one thing. It is because they can do the one thing well. As soon as you try to make something do multiple things well you have to prioritize which resources go where at what time because there are limits to labor and costs.
*earth simulator
Can't go to space
Imagine, how this sim for first person view, will feel like fsx for flight simming. We are edging closer to the World Sim in 2035
It's literally not possible for every ship to be in this game so we already know they're capping
Why not? There is a live data of almost all ship on the globe. If course they not be individually modelled after real ones, but make couple of models for all types of ships it’s possible.
@@PhilippSeven so every little fishing ship in the world will be there? I doubt it
@@neofett9 if they have transponder - yes. Why not?
Obviously, you need to use the gray matter a little bit.
@@PhilippSeven not every ship in the world has one
Should be really fun dusting crops. I always wanted to be able to do that on sims. I think I'm gonna need an RTX8090.
Asobo is all in on gamification of Flight simulator. Prepare for disappointment if you’re a core simmer.