USING TOP GUN 2 TACTICS | Mig-31 Foxhound Vs F-15 Eagle | INTERCEPT | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS
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Who were you flying against today? That was some ultimate disrespect with the guns on you after the crash landing 😂
F-22 VS Ten North Korean MIG-29's BVR
F-35 VS MIG-31 BVR
I don't remember ever seeing you fly an F-104? It would be interesting to see how that stacks up against a Mirage F.1.
Brilliant work👍👍
Amazing
Dude... how many new ideas to entertain us do you have, man? This is ridiculous. I always say that you said everything you got to say, and you always come up with a new one. One of the best channels out there. I love it! Not to mention, I've learnt a thing or two.
Thank you man really appreciate the support much love.
When he started from the ground I was astounded
I’d whole heartedly agree to that statement!!! my favorite Dcs channel by far!! Always learn so much 🙏🏻
Babe wake up. Growling Sidewinder posted
I am babe
@@hyqerxan2793 the babe with the power! What power? The power of voodoo. Who do? The babe. What babe? The babe with the power
@@kaiezesi6630 I’m highly intoxicated
Faxx
I’m up! I’m up! Jeez…..gimme that
*Celebrating the missile missing*
“OH TREES” 💥
I am DYING 😂😂😂
Top Gun 2 would end quick that way
Turns out theres something deadlier than russian missiles 😂 trees dont need homing capabilities, you run into them
The most dangerous trees are the ones that speak Vietnamese
Dude. Never go up against a tree. It will take you out any time. Trees don’t care if it’s an F-22, an SU-57 Checkmate, or an actual UFO. Trees mean business and will end you and anything else that goes up against them. Oh, and let’s not even start with the grass. That’s worse than trees.
In Soviet Russia, trees kill *you!*
Me to my wife: Just saw this awesome video of an Eagle and Foxhound going head to head. At one point the Eagle is flying just 50 feet off the ground but misjudged his altitude and crash lands into the ground. Then the Foxhound comes in and unceremoniously finishes off the crippled Eagle with guns.
My wife: Wait, what? With guns?
Me: Yeah!
Wife: You mean the hunter, right?
Me: No, the...
And that's when I realized the importance of context...
Lol how did your wife react to the kill?
That poor missus of yours. Having to put up with that. Should have told your son or Brother.
i thought she meant the hawker hunter
Good thing the video wasn't of a mig15
@@musman9853 LOL
7:14 You can say you are very screwed, when a MiG-31 manages a gun kill on ya.
Haha! Well, that part was just plain impolite :D
Full credit to the Eagle for surviving a transonic crash landing though!
I really hope we get a full fidelity Mis-31 eventually. That's the module nobody knows they want.
I know that I want it and you probably know the Thanos meme
It's impossible, not only is the MiG 31 still in service with Russia in modernized variant, all the weapons used by it are as well, R33, R37
@@Ropetor never say impossible when you already have modules such as the F-22 and Su-57
@@midnightanimal708 Those two are unofficial mods.
@@MaxIsStrange1 and your point being?
The foxhound strafing was unexpected LMAO
Mig 31 be like: I leave no witnesses
@@ObsydianShade nah the gun is still on the Foxhound
That was putins campaign slogan last election.
@@ObsydianShade There was only prototype of MiG-31M built in the 80s, it never entered mass production as it was canceled in 1995 due to budget cuts, the new variant that carries Kinzhal hypersonic weapon system is named MiG-31K and it still carries the GSH-23-6 cannon, sam as normal MiG-31B and the modernized MiG-31BM
@@ObsydianShade There is an urban story about test of mig29 intercepting tu95 when we wanted to remove tail gun from it as not necessary. Once tu95 turned on his jammers, Mig could not lock his weapons on it no matter ho close he was, and had to attak with a gun. So gun stays.
unknown to GS that mig 31 pilot planet that tree 20 years in preparation for this fight when he was just a boy. Never stood a chance against Russian plantlife
There is a Russian phrase "even trees help you if you are on your land"))
🤣🤣🤣
There are many dangers with this tactic, some would say you are putting yourself into a dangerous area...........a......DANGER ZONE!!!
You went there...
@@markdescalzo2468 You could say I took it down.......to the deck
Phrasing.
@@brandonschwertley2723 But did you take the highway revving up your engine?
@@brandonschwertley2723 🙃🙃
7:09 Ground control: get back home Ivan, it’s done
Ivan: one second, just checking on something
Dude the fox hound coming to strafe you after you crash landed was so f****** hilarious.
The Russian missiles might have been tracking properly, since they don't have to actually hit you to make a kill. But when you put the ground inside their kill radius they just might hit that first. A workable defense, but clearly something better is needed.
Stealth tech is that defense, but would make for a less interesting video.
Nah, the missradius was HUGE.
Eurofighter Typhoon FGR4 is not something better for you with the Meteor missile? It can easily kill that MiG31 even before the MiG31 can pick up the Typhoon with the radar. How I know? Well, there is an other CZcamsr who put the 2 planes vs each other in a BVR fight. Multiple times the Eurofighter won that, even with an AWACS.
@@sulyokpeter3941 "easily" is definitely not the right word.
But it would be far closer to an even fight. The Meteor is a much better missile and the Typhoon is a good air domination fighter.
Anyone who thinks the Typhoon has the upper hand though, seriously, even the original MiG-31 from the 80s have similar radar range as the Typhoon.
The CURRENT model of MiG-31 is vastly superior to that.
@@DIREWOLFx75 Iam speaking about the upgraded model of the Eurofighter which is the FGR4. Upgraded radar, sensors and the pilot computer etc etc etc. Maybe not that easily thats true but Iam pretty sure still, that it can handle the MiG31 even the newer version one. Not just because of these upgrades but the Pilots experience also matters a lot. UK Fighter pilots got 2 times more flight hours than the Russians got.
I would love to see that same tactic with the F-14 and Jester's not so last minute ejections/comms.
This was one of the most interesting and dynamic videos of all! And that surprise Gsh 23-6 burst? I haven't been able to find it anywhere else for half a year! That was a cherry on top! Bravo, Sidewinder!
This is how the Swedes trained. The standard procedure was 4 meters above sea level over open waters, and 10 meters above forests. The Viggen and Draken didn't have the radars to beat MiG-25's, MiG-29's or Su-27's, but with the help of flying so damn low with GCI, they could get close enough without getting shot down, to launch on the enemy (especially the Viggen with it's Skyflash RB. 71). Hundreds of pilots died in the Swedish air force from 1950 to this day due to this method of flying, however we know it would've been effective, because peacetime they flew just like they would in wartime.
How does this tactic work do they go in an approx direction and hope to see an enemy or do they use their radars and fly low ? I think Russians would switch to irst n radar which might spot them
@@hemendraravi4787 he mentions the GCI that stands for Ground Controlled Interceptor. Basically it's an AWACs that works from a ground based radar to point the aircraft in the direction of the enemy.
@@arguy3297 oh
The Royal New Zealand airforce (when we used to have Skyhawks) were excellent at doing exercises at 50 feet off the deck. They would surprise and enfuriate both the US and Australian airforce as they could not see them.
The Aussies and Yanks still can't see your fast jets... 😜
@@asjeot we don’t have them anymore :(
@@GlitchyGamers18 can't see what ain't there!
Yeah but now you have thought control by your government so fair exchange
@@ryanarnold4790 but I don’t want that.
These Mig-31 videos have me wondering how differently these BVR engagements might play out with significant ECM assets in play. How much difference would having Growlers, Prowlers, Ravens, etc make? Would they increase the likelihood of a merge? Does it become of contest to see who loses their ECM and EW first? Idle curiosity.
Foxhound dead in merge anyway
yup since you have to go much closer to burn through all the ECM/EW
Problem is that the EWAR and ECM stuff is probably very classified, so no way to accurately model it in DCS. I mean, they can guess, but how accurate it would be is anyone's guess.
@@Raptor747 some ECM stuff isn’t classified anymore but it’s all old stuff. Like on the CH-46 their ECM could take our heat seekers by shooting a laser beam into the optic of the missile and frying the sensor so it was blind
Mig 31 Radar is stupid strong and also Mig 31 has it own jammers
"He missed!"
"Oh shit, trees!"
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Then the total disrespect of the strafe after you grounded.
Nice war thunder landing at 6:50
Amazing work as always :)
The shade on that ground attack. Talk about adding insult to injury! Got a good laugh out of that.
Much disrespect! GS should have ejected. Might have saved him.
I mean, that was a decent drift to park job on the ground. Reminded me of one of those "big wheel" videos where people put coffee cans on the rear wheels and drift around on the asphalt.
Only with an F-15.
That was incredible, well done!
Sometimes DCS has this uncanny-valley kind of realism effect, which I don't even completely realize in the moment, but man you really have an amazing talent for creating, capturing and presenting the best DCS has to offer.
The scene with the missile seemingly leading you perfectly, not even making large corrections near the end, then suddenly hitting the ground...
It looks exactly like failure simulations of rocket guidance control systems, where the system (for whatever reason) couldn't get reliable sensor data of its altitude AGL or simply wasn't designed to even consider avoiding the ground in the first place!
(e.g. a rocket that is designed to only go up in altitude, has an error which would only show up in an upset attitude. Say, someone took the unsigned value of the vehicle's altitude and mistakenly returned it as the signed value, somewhere in the altitude control law of the guidance control computer.)
This is such a good video! I already enjoy all of your content, but this specifically is NEXT LEVEL. There's a real narrative to the video and the clear challenge you're trying to overcome had me hooked from beginning to end. Really well done! Some of the best gameplay content out there on CZcams
The MiG-31 Strafing run was the funniest thing I've seen all day.
I know I was rolling on the floor....
is like you looks up at him and says he wouldn't....BURRR......HE DID
so much risk and hard work just to take out one aircraft. absolute insanity, well done!
7:08 rubbing salt to the wound right there😆
Thank you for the best laugh I have had all morning, GS! Anyone who has spent any time flying an aircraft at very low altitude, knows very well the extreme pucker factor you can have about the hazards of terrain. The joys of granite clouds, of trees trying to swat you, and how the wind moving around hills and mountains can either push you up, push you down, or throw your plane around like a leaf. Adding speed to which only serves to magnify the danger, by reducing your reaction time!
6:49 "Back into low altitude"
"Dude you are making an emergency landing!!"
7:00 and 7:14 are probably historic firsts in DCS. Didn't even know the Mig 31 had guns, let alone use them to finish an f15 eagle.
Yeah it does but only older models
they eventually found that they are probably useless so they got rid of them
damn i'm fast
when are you gonna fight it with the eurofighter though? Meteor + Strong performance + Strong radar
I doubt it would help, euro fighter works best high up but the Russian missile has a longer range and the mig-31 has a better radar, so unless you do this start (which every fighter can do more or less) your just going to be pasted like every other plane.
That was REALLY fun! The belly "landing" and the shot on the ground scene. I almost pissed my pants laughing. Your videos are so entertaining. Thank you GS!
3:28, he’s a Vietnamese mig working with his buddies on the ground
Due to mig31 phased array radar, which gives incredible fast radar sweeps, rwr probably would freak out like in stt lock even when it's just scanning you
Excellent tactics with flying F-15 at low tree top against the Mig-31. See if you can do same tactics flying F-14 in your next video. Also be interesting to see if F-22 can kill mig-31 flying high or low altitude and avoiding R33 missiles. Nice job 👍
Maaaan what a video. Hahaha i laughed so much but also im so impressed with the simulator when u touched the ground how it slides down and the way it "jiggles" when it stops its freaking real. Im an airline pilot, fighter lover and i bought a game notebook with dcs in mind, downloaded and never played, was so busy flying and now im watching ur videos ill have to reinstall it. Amazing stuff, your humour too, my favorite youtube channel right now!
I do a similar strat when baiting SAMs in the Tomcat where I dive down after launch so the missile's intercept point with me is inside the ground and then i pull up. Missile's path is the shortest path to intercept and that puts more of its path inside terrain/water.
Given this, I reckon the Tornado ADV would be very strong against the MiG-31 given that it has a powerful radar and more importantly s terrain following radar.
I want to see some tornado Duells!
Yes! But wasn’t it the ground attack variant that had the terrain following radar? Dare I suggest the Jaguar?
Growling Sidewinder, this is one of the best and most Satisfying Videos you have made! Laughed so hard on the lead-up to the downing of that Mig-31. (Mark you, the Mig-31 is my favorite Russian Fighter Jet). Make more videos with it please.
This is one of the very few channels where I watch it from start to finish. Amazing work, so f**king entertaining! The skills you have are also mind-blowing. Keep up the good work!!
Now is the Turn of F22 Vs Mig31.
F22 heads on fight like a LION....roar....
oh no...cringe
Love the content! Evading columns of exploding earth while flying less than 10m above the deck was intense to watch!
There's a problem with that tactics though. If bandit had R-77-1 then being mach 2 and high he still would've had a noticeable range advantage over you being subsonic and low.
Yeah, but I think that in a high ECM scenario the Mig 31 would struggle more with a F-15.
i laughed so hard when u smoked that tree after dodging that
From a long time Falcon 4 driver, hats off, yes sir. I did watched your previous fails, against the MIG-31, and am impressed you did not give up, and that DCS is modeled so well that I'm going to see if I can build a Thrustmaster HOTAS keyfile, and try out DCS especially with the F15 and F16 planes. NICE!
I have to admit I giggled hysterically when you hit the trees. And when the Mig strafed you. Great disrespect. lol
Great video! Suggestions for next Mig-31 fights:
F-22
or
Eurofighter with Meteor missile
Lol at the monster truck coming in with the cannon to finish you off when you beached it!
3:22 "That actually worked... Oh! Trees!" 🤣
I was going to say nice landing... right up until you were enveloped in tracer fire.... Sorry, I had to bust out laughing my ass off. Nice tactic though, it all worked out in the end ;)
you should try it in the tomcat too, see if the phoenixes with their extra high speed and jester's missile spotting can help you out, plus you'd get that extra top gun vibe
It would probably be spoiled by Jester ejecting
@@Ankhobo lol guess he'll need r2d2 to take jesters place again then
This is EXACTLY the 1v1 I was looking for, good shit!!!
this is one my favorite videos of yours to watch, you should try that in some other crazy situations as well! nice flying!
GS came and saved the day faster than a Foxhound.
hmm....
One treestrike, one shockwave death, one unplanned landing on an improvised airfield, and then finally, one splashed mig-31
The Spolier gods commend you
Heck ya!!! Finally got that mig 31! Great series man. I would continue with this theme in the future at points. Yet another masterpiece from GS.
GS' content keeps getting better and better. Hands down one of the most watchable content creator here.
Oh, the old Viggen tactics of flying below the treetops 💪🏻
Oh so that's why the Russians added a cannon to the MiG-31...
I didn't think I would have ever seen this video! Awesome job!
The will Farrell looking to the left made me bust a gut. Thanks
Well done! Would the F=35 survive long enough to get into AMRAAM range before detection and hypersonic launch from the MiG 31?
One on one, probably.
With it's interconnected warfare and ECW, capabilities being properly modeled?
Absolutely.
Probably just walk around mig31's detection edge, find an angle outside it's search cone and shot. Job done.
yes
@@jaek__ You're aware that the -31 also has "interconnected warfare and ECW"?
It is in fact the first fighter to have such, in the 80s.
@@frankxu2321 That would be the smart thing to do, yes.
you need to try this with the F22
The f22 wouldn't be much of a battle tho, it'd be like every thing else, the 31 won't see it until the F22 is in kill range
Hi GS, I commented that your last Mig-31 video with this tactic. Glad it is working.
7:00 And I was thinking who plowed my garden... :)
It’s kind of crazy just how dominant the foxhound is in bvr
Hypersonic missile truck with a huge radar and huge engines lol 😂
Doesn't the F-15 have a rather excellent radar? Why is it so difficult to obtain lock an aircraft the size of a MiG-31?
Because it's an FC3 module. A real F-15C radar from that era might have a radar with a peak power comparable to the F-14s radar.
Im curious what generation they are using in DCS, yes our radars are the best in the AF, they pick up f22s and F35s really easily and have a large stand off distance. DCS is using C models and they have had 2 different generations of radars installed. The newest AESA radar is insane, cant talk much about it though
@@philparnell757 Might be a late 90s to early 2000s version. But I'm not sure.
@@AngryStaffSgt that's what I'm thinking too. Particularly cause they're using the gray radome color. Which is kinda a bummer because I know some c-models got the current emodel generation radars which are damn good. It's hard for me to believe on modern standards a foxhound would be out targeting modern F15s. Hell at red flag this year my squadron wrecked house on basically everything but F22s and 35s. Even the F15QA and SA models came back beat down.
@@verdebusterAP MIG-31 Zaslon was such achievement for URSS but was no "better" than F-14A AWG-9 (MSA) with a even better fire solution (AIM-54). If a early AESA could hold his own against that I see no motive why a third generation AESA wouldn't jam a PESA radar.
Phew. The world feels right again. Thank you.
(That guns kill after you crash landed was dirty!)
Man that was epic. Those missiles smacking the ground all around you was such a ride. Glad you have a tactic now :)
I can't be the only one wondering how the F-22 does in this scenario.
The MiG-31 seems to be lowballed so the F-22 would probably win as long as it doesn't try to play tractor.
The raptors stealth is too good. It would see (and thus kill) the MiG 31 before the MiG 31 saw it
@@cockatoo010 Would be my guess as well.
This was one of my favourite videos you've ever done, so entertaining!
3:20 (Missile missed) WAHOOO!!!!
3:22 (Crashes into trees) D'OH!!!
@Growling Sidewinder
This is a Basic Greek Airforce Pilot Training with F-16 Viper and Rafale F3.
Whenever I think there can't be more things to do in DCS for entertainment, your content always suprises me !
That was some quality ground hugging flying. Nicely done GS
Growling: haha your missiles can't touch me. MiG-31: like if they needed to
"OH, TREES!"
The best laugh I've had in a long, long time. Thank you.
I was so happy for you on the first dodge, then I spit my coffee out when you hit the trees.
Love watching your videos Man! I work the Ramp full time and on my weekends, I like to get home, open a beer, sit back relax and enjoy!
Dude. When I saw that Foxhound bearing down on your clearly out-of-the-fight bird with guns, I did that thing where you cover your mouth with both hands in shock, awe, and disbelief.
"MY GOD... THE DISRESPECT"
good job GS, and a technique that every plane can use to.
Keep pumping this content my guy I love seeing the f15 and literally nobody does videos like you 👍🏻
Really interesting video - and thanks for the chuckles on a Friday morning 🙂
One of the greatest channels on youtube. Thanks for all the lovely content.
I grew up reading GI Joe comics (Marvel) in the 80's and one of the editors who created the series was an Army veteran, so he infused a lot of accurate military detail into the series, it was actually a really well made comic book! There was one issue where the GI Joe "Skystriker" (F-14) faced off against the Cobra Rattler (A-10, okay well he didn't get to choose what vehicles Hasbro released! haha) and I think it was the Rattler pilot who employed "nap of the earth" flying, which is one of the military terms for this radar avoidance tactic. Seeing it played out in a good sim like DCS with the missiles hitting nearby is something I never imagined! Very cool to see it played out!
Larry Hama. He really made those books into something special.
I think the way to optimise this this is to fly a tad higher and do a short, sharp dive when the missile gets close so it will overcompensate into the dirt at a safe distance
@Mike Kabakov if I had even a slight notion that I was the first to think about it, I would be sitting at an R&D military unit right about now. I was of course speaking purely in terms of DCS and it's missile programming.
was looking forward for this video! Amazing!
I had no idea fox 3s could mov like that!!! those turns, to stay on target, were insane
Thick air helps those little control surfaces, I'd imagine
The first time I ever encountered the splash-damage thing, I was actually fighting GS (which never made it to video, because track files). I was in a Mirage trying to notch Phoenixes, and I was flying super low because that made me feel like it would work better. Phoenix went over me, landed past my right wing, and the splash completely shattered the plane. Learned something new that day! That was also the first time I saw someone accidentally shoot down his own Phoenix with a Sidewinder.
Best video yet. Love this dude. Keep it up!
Those Mig 31 fights are so epic, thank you very much!
"That actually worked. OH TREES!"
I think you woke my neighbor up via my laughter xD
Just the complete disrespect of the Mig-31 when you beach yourself and he just comes up and smokes you with the gun...That had me in tears XD
Luv it! Just paused after the tree! I am ROFLMAO! EPIC!
edit at end. GS, one o your top vidy's man, O7
3:22 ~ "Oh Trees!!" I cleared out my sinus with Dr. Pepper! My keyboard is going to be sticky for weeks now. Thanks!! LOL
I laughed so loud at ~ 3:25
If GS ever includes this clip in a death montage, I hope he includes the preceding 10 seconds, so that we understand why he's flying so low...
Amazing cinematics! This channel grows!
Trees...still undefeated by August 2022. Like the ground. Until now, no fighter pilot ever succeeded against these two. Yeah GS, I know that feeling flying on your Caucasus Server. Nice job, dude! ;-D
That was both funny and impressive! Well done
Decent video man. Very entertaining. Keep it up on the comparisons and evasive tactics
Maybe do a foxbat vs sr71 altitude test and acceleration test
“IT WORKED!” *trees* “OH NO A TREE!” Splatter!