My wife’s 2nd Great Grandfather was in that regiment, but didn’t get captured since he was operating a machine gun back at the trench. He then took part in the engagement that ultimately freed the battalion.
With normal shelling, there was time between the end of the shelling and the advance of infantry to fill any holes made with the shelling. With creeping shelling, you reduced that time as much as possible to try and exploit any holes made with the shelling. It also meant that you were expected to lose some number of men to your own shells. (I've heard the number as around 5%, but can't remember exactly.)
As a scout I was trained to call for fire. So we'd radio for indirect fire. I can advance with creeping fire with modern technology. But without radio... Just having to guess when the next adjustment is made... Advancing like that is madness no matter how good your watch is
Since 1921, Cher Ami has been on display at the Smithsonian Institution. He is on display with Sergeant Stubby in the National Museum of American History's "Price of Freedom" exhibit.
(15:12) Nice Band of Brothers backstory I didn't know about! Speaking of HBO, I'm in the middle of watching Lincoln: Divided We Stand. CNN produces excellent documentaries; I can watch Apollo 11 over and over. Never boring or draggy, Lincoln also mines the depths of Mary Todd's character. Well worth watching. The key takeaway, however, is that Conan O'Brien's talk show and comedy personality is in fact his Clark Kent persona. Turns out he is a presidential historian, Lincoln collector, and expert on Lincoln. I am now seriously of the opinion he needs to be our next President. EDIT: Sergeant York is on HBO Max. I'm having trouble getting through this video because I keep having to look stuff up!!!
Hey! I know it’s an old comment but I’ve recently finished Band of Brothers and am towards the last episodes of the first season of Rome, could you please recommend some more historical/military shows from HBO?
This is insane! I've never heard of this story as growing up in Australia almost all of our WW1 teachings was based around the Gallipoli campaign (WW2 around Tobruk) we never really learnt in great detail about what happened in western europe. Wasn't really until speaking to my fiancee's family who are Italian that i learnt alot and continued to learn as much as possible since. I hope you continue making videos about the world wars especially WW1 it's so interesting to learn about each countries unique stories and different perspectives.
My great great uncle was a member of the Lost Battalion. He somehow survived uninjured, but was injured shortly after in another skirmish before the war ended. He rarely spoke of his time in the pocket. I had the privilege of seeing Cher Ami at the Smithsonian a few years back. Their exhibit on WW1 was disappointingly small, but at least she was there. Thank you for covering this incredible bit of history!
That’s incredible! I’m from England and my family have always been in the Royal Navy. My great great grandfather was at Jutland on HMS Canada, and my great great uncle was on the SS kirkpool which was torpedoed during ww2, and the survivors were given to the Japanese in POW camps.
Good mention of The Lost Battalion. Great movie and I feel like no one else ever knows it. Suffers a bit from being a tv movie. But it does a great job building the world of the era. "I am an American. I took the test." Do wish they included, what I read was, the first supply air drop in history.
Creeping barrage was formulated in the 20th century. With that said I’m gonna fanboy out. Tsubodai Bahadur used it in the 13th at the Battle of Sajo River. Because he was a --- genius
I just was reading up and watching some stuff about the Lost Battalion a few days ago and I learned that they actually did silent movie with many of the principle characters of the Lost Battalion playing themselves in the movie.
@@VloggingThroughHistory That's right. They even went a step further with every letter and document used in the film being the original. It's actually on CZcams in full. On my long list of movies to watch.
This is very coincidental for me; my stepmother just told me she had a grandfather, Floyd Patrick Green, in something called the “lost battalion”. I looked it up and was very impressed and interested; does anyone here have advice for looking into it further? I have some preliminary information but that’s it
@@VloggingThroughHistory awesome, thanks! I’ll give them a look; I tried to look for military records more directly, but apparently COVID has the office in St Louis at 10 percent. Thanks for the recommendation!
I great video, I hadn’t heard of this before. I read the wiki on Charles W. Whittlesey and he left letters to his loved ones and before he left New York he made a will to give his possessions to his mother so he definitely killed himself, he didn’t fall off or whatever. Sad story and I’m sure he’s not the only WW1 veteran to go down that dark path.
My favorite part of combined units in the age of Velcro... You combine units now, you can still proudly wear your own like in the sewn-on days. You wanna maybe do something shifty you can swap with a guy who has something different, and "nobody with that description in my unit". We used that trick to score booze at the National Training Center, as training units were not supposed to enter main post and absolutely banned from drinking. MPs are looking for one patch, you just swap out with another guy.
Somewhat related, there's another song that also details this by the band 1914 called "Arrival. The Meuse Argonne" The music is harsher but for the most part the lyrics are clear enough and also features part of the message almost verbatim in the lyrics.
Can't imagine what type of men these people are, every single one of them need to be recognized for their heroism. I wish I could of been there to help and fight to the last breathe
My Grandfather’s uncle was in the lost battalion and survived. Sadly, I think the experience really affected him; he was called crazy uncle Otto. Interestingly, as far as I know, all of my grandfathers family is from California, on the west coast.
It’s not very well known but pigeons were also used in WW2. The RAF used pigeons in bombers to send back messages. The highest award for animal gallantry in Britain the Dickin Medal was first awarded in 1943 to 3 pigeons who contributed to the recovery of ditched aircrew. The most recent was to a dog who served with the SBS in Afghanistan.
While I do understand your point of not doing the end since you had already done the song, there is also something else going on at the end. The story of the song. Often they don't just talk about the song but also how the song came into being, and that can often be an interresting story in itself. And I think that could probably be interresting even for a channel focusing on the history, sort of a "How do an average Joe(akim) stumble upon a piece of history like this?". And I know there is no e in Joakim. :)
I was supposed to see Sabaton on my birthday, October 28th, in Washington, DC but they cancelled their North American tour. I tried to convince my parents to go to Europe to see them in the summer, but they didn't like the idea.
The order to keep advancing isn't as crazy as it sounds. If the front line is behind you, push on. Use the enemy supply line as your own. Steal everything you need. Then swing back in a rear attack when your fed and rested. Do a nice bit of sabotage while you're out there. (Think General Sherman style)
That would be great with a full strength battalion, however they'd been fighting for days without food and most members were injured. Seeing people as numbers means its a good idea. If they had any idea of front line combat in a situation like this the order to keep attacking is ridiculous
When you come to Europe if you visit the UK can you please make a video on the Cambridge American war cemetery near Cambridge and Duxford Aviation Museum which has an American hall featuring some of the US aircraft that flew in the UK such as the SR71, the B52, the B29 and the P51 as well as other displays of aircraft including Concorde, Spitfire, Lancaster and more modern aircraft. It’s a great museum and well worth a day. Last time I visited as I was sat in the sun an elderly American gentleman started chatting to me who had flown from there in WW2 and he regaled me with a few stories of his time in England and flying against Germany. I shook his hand at the end of our encounter and thanked him for all of his and his countrymen’s efforts and sacrifices and yes I did feel emotional. Cheers from England 🏴
@@VloggingThroughHistory great to hear if you haven’t been before I hope you enjoy the UK. A ball turret gunner is one job I would never have wanted there again at 5ft 10 I wouldn’t have fitted in 😊
@@VloggingThroughHistory just watching your video reacting to the history of the world and you said your ancestors are from Tipton, so are mine my fathers family are all from there although I live 10 miles west of there now. Check out the Black Country dialect that is spoken in Tipton and can be unintelligible to others. It’s one of England’s oldest regional dialects still using elements of Middle English and German words such as bay.
This is totally unrelated to WW1, but I know you're a huge Civil War buff, and thought I'd make a request. I definitely think you should check out some videos showcasing the video game Hunt: Showdown. It's a really interesting shooter game set in 1896 Louisiana in an alternate timeline where a supernatural plague happens in the bayou. The game is chock full of tidbits of postbellum history and all of the guns and equipment are modeled after history, with several variants based on concepts that were either only prototypes or were never successfully produced. For a guy like me who's into the Civil War and the history of the US conflicts with the native Americans postbellum, it's crazy cool seeing characters using modified surplus overcoats, wearing kepis or US cavalry hats, and walking around a Louisiana full of buildings modeled after real-world architecture of the late 1800s.
I think it's just invading Russia full stop really there's no way to beat them before winter sets in again might as well not bother in the first place rain or shine 😂
That pigeon is a god damn mad lad
My wife’s 2nd Great Grandfather was in that regiment, but didn’t get captured since he was operating a machine gun back at the trench. He then took part in the engagement that ultimately freed the battalion.
With normal shelling, there was time between the end of the shelling and the advance of infantry to fill any holes made with the shelling.
With creeping shelling, you reduced that time as much as possible to try and exploit any holes made with the shelling.
It also meant that you were expected to lose some number of men to your own shells. (I've heard the number as around 5%, but can't remember exactly.)
As a scout I was trained to call for fire. So we'd radio for indirect fire. I can advance with creeping fire with modern technology. But without radio... Just having to guess when the next adjustment is made... Advancing like that is madness no matter how good your watch is
Since 1921, Cher Ami has been on display at the Smithsonian Institution. He is on display with Sergeant Stubby in the National Museum of American History's "Price of Freedom" exhibit.
(15:12) Nice Band of Brothers backstory I didn't know about! Speaking of HBO, I'm in the middle of watching Lincoln: Divided We Stand. CNN produces excellent documentaries; I can watch Apollo 11 over and over. Never boring or draggy, Lincoln also mines the depths of Mary Todd's character. Well worth watching. The key takeaway, however, is that Conan O'Brien's talk show and comedy personality is in fact his Clark Kent persona. Turns out he is a presidential historian, Lincoln collector, and expert on Lincoln. I am now seriously of the opinion he needs to be our next President. EDIT: Sergeant York is on HBO Max. I'm having trouble getting through this video because I keep having to look stuff up!!!
Never watch anything from cnn lol
Hey! I know it’s an old comment but I’ve recently finished Band of Brothers and am towards the last episodes of the first season of Rome, could you please recommend some more historical/military shows from HBO?
This is insane! I've never heard of this story as growing up in Australia almost all of our WW1 teachings was based around the Gallipoli campaign (WW2 around Tobruk) we never really learnt in great detail about what happened in western europe.
Wasn't really until speaking to my fiancee's family who are Italian that i learnt alot and continued to learn as much as possible since.
I hope you continue making videos about the world wars especially WW1 it's so interesting to learn about each countries unique stories and different perspectives.
My great great uncle was a member of the Lost Battalion. He somehow survived uninjured, but was injured shortly after in another skirmish before the war ended. He rarely spoke of his time in the pocket. I had the privilege of seeing Cher Ami at the Smithsonian a few years back. Their exhibit on WW1 was disappointingly small, but at least she was there. Thank you for covering this incredible bit of history!
That’s incredible! I’m from England and my family have always been in the Royal Navy. My great great grandfather was at Jutland on HMS Canada, and my great great uncle was on the SS kirkpool which was torpedoed during ww2, and the survivors were given to the Japanese in POW camps.
I guess that’s how people dealt with horrible things back then just don’t talk about it.
Please don't stop making reactions to Sabaton's song's
Why? It's pretty good
@@texanwokey8366 I think you misread it
Good mention of The Lost Battalion. Great movie and I feel like no one else ever knows it. Suffers a bit from being a tv movie. But it does a great job building the world of the era. "I am an American. I took the test."
Do wish they included, what I read was, the first supply air drop in history.
You should do a review about the 442nd Infantry Regimental Combat Team. They are the most decorated US army unit.
Most decorated regimental combat team*. There are other Army units with way more awards.
What an epic story… bless all those men and may the fallen RIP. Great vid Indy is a great story teller 👍
Creeping barrage was formulated in the 20th century. With that said I’m gonna fanboy out. Tsubodai Bahadur used it in the 13th at the Battle of Sajo River. Because he was a --- genius
Thank for trying to bring us videos every day. 😍👍
I just was reading up and watching some stuff about the Lost Battalion a few days ago and I learned that they actually did silent movie with many of the principle characters of the Lost Battalion playing themselves in the movie.
Yes! In 1919 I think.
@@VloggingThroughHistory That's right. They even went a step further with every letter and document used in the film being the original. It's actually on CZcams in full. On my long list of movies to watch.
@@Letterman0412 Haven't seen it. That'll have to go on my list too!
If possible can you please react to Mark Feltons video about the forgotten Katyn Massacre from Word War Two.
I second this. Mark Felton's video, no matter the topic, are always good and worth HGG looking at.
can it really be called "forgotten" anymore?
This is very coincidental for me; my stepmother just told me she had a grandfather, Floyd Patrick Green, in something called the “lost battalion”. I looked it up and was very impressed and interested; does anyone here have advice for looking into it further? I have some preliminary information but that’s it
There’s a great book called Finding the Lost Battalion by Robert Laplander. The movie is very good also.
@@VloggingThroughHistory awesome, thanks! I’ll give them a look; I tried to look for military records more directly, but apparently COVID has the office in St Louis at 10 percent. Thanks for the recommendation!
@@jer1234ish also dont get your hopes up as most of the WW2 records were burned in a fire in St Louis.
You can find lists of soldiers who were there.
Correct but I'm talking about individual soldiers' WW2 files. Most of them burned in a National Archives fire about 50 years ago.
I great video, I hadn’t heard of this before. I read the wiki on Charles W. Whittlesey and he left letters to his loved ones and before he left New York he made a will to give his possessions to his mother so he definitely killed himself, he didn’t fall off or whatever. Sad story and I’m sure he’s not the only WW1 veteran to go down that dark path.
My favorite part of combined units in the age of Velcro... You combine units now, you can still proudly wear your own like in the sewn-on days. You wanna maybe do something shifty you can swap with a guy who has something different, and "nobody with that description in my unit". We used that trick to score booze at the National Training Center, as training units were not supposed to enter main post and absolutely banned from drinking. MPs are looking for one patch, you just swap out with another guy.
Love this video and this song, hell the whole album is freaking killer.
Has anyone seen the 77th?
No sir, they Argonne.
I'll see myself out.
Take my like good sir! 😂
Bah dum tish...
Somewhat related, there's another song that also details this by the band 1914 called "Arrival. The Meuse Argonne"
The music is harsher but for the most part the lyrics are clear enough and also features part of the message almost verbatim in the lyrics.
Can't imagine what type of men these people are, every single one of them need to be recognized for their heroism. I wish I could of been there to help and fight to the last breathe
My Grandfather’s uncle was in the lost battalion and survived. Sadly, I think the experience really affected him; he was called crazy uncle Otto. Interestingly, as far as I know, all of my grandfathers family is from California, on the west coast.
It’s not very well known but pigeons were also used in WW2. The RAF used pigeons in bombers to send back messages.
The highest award for animal gallantry in Britain the Dickin Medal was first awarded in 1943 to 3 pigeons who contributed to the recovery of ditched aircrew. The most recent was to a dog who served with the SBS in Afghanistan.
Indy Neidell is my favorite history presenter.
Love him. My wife (who isn't a huge history fan) loves watching him too.
In the comparison to the Lost Battalion and the 101st Airborne, probably could have included in the Marines at Chosin in the Korean War.
As a college student away from home it’s hurts me to hear you’re planning on visiting my home city of DC while I’m away :(.
As a New Yorker I’m so proud of the 77th
hello im just here to suggest that u should react to extra credits video on Justinian and Theodora!
What a great group of soldiers.
Ricky Schroeder stars in a good movie about the Lost Battalion.
Ok. I posted this before you mentioned it lol
While I do understand your point of not doing the end since you had already done the song, there is also something else going on at the end. The story of the song. Often they don't just talk about the song but also how the song came into being, and that can often be an interresting story in itself. And I think that could probably be interresting even for a channel focusing on the history, sort of a "How do an average Joe(akim) stumble upon a piece of history like this?".
And I know there is no e in Joakim. :)
Hearing that the German immigrants were able to help their troops by translating, brings a tear to my eye.
Huh, didn't know that about Desmond Doss.
I love the Lost battalion and didn't know much about WW1 til after watching it.
Yes, that's Alvin York.
More Sabaton song reactions on the way?
I was supposed to see Sabaton on my birthday, October 28th, in Washington, DC but they cancelled their North American tour. I tried to convince my parents to go to Europe to see them in the summer, but they didn't like the idea.
covid scare?
@@Bazerald777 No, the guitarist for Judas Priest, who they're touring with, had heart problems so they had to postpone their tour.
You should see cliffs of gallipoli from sabaton history it has two parts and really good
do all of their sabaton history please
Cher ami means dear friend
The order to keep advancing isn't as crazy as it sounds. If the front line is behind you, push on. Use the enemy supply line as your own. Steal everything you need. Then swing back in a rear attack when your fed and rested. Do a nice bit of sabotage while you're out there. (Think General Sherman style)
That would be great with a full strength battalion, however they'd been fighting for days without food and most members were injured. Seeing people as numbers means its a good idea. If they had any idea of front line combat in a situation like this the order to keep attacking is ridiculous
Ok so I was listening to the lost Battalion and I wanted to learn more about them bang new video thank you and love you
9:30 there’s almost a horrible irony there
Hi I love this I hope you have a good and I love history and I’m trying to learn it so thank you for it
I mean, your 9 year old isnt wrong
That video ended on a sad note.
When you come to Europe if you visit the UK can you please make a video on the Cambridge American war cemetery near Cambridge and Duxford Aviation Museum which has an American hall featuring some of the US aircraft that flew in the UK such as the SR71, the B52, the B29 and the P51 as well as other displays of aircraft including Concorde, Spitfire, Lancaster and more modern aircraft. It’s a great museum and well worth a day. Last time I visited as I was sat in the sun an elderly American gentleman started chatting to me who had flown from there in WW2 and he regaled me with a few stories of his time in England and flying against Germany. I shook his hand at the end of our encounter and thanked him for all of his and his countrymen’s efforts and sacrifices and yes I did feel emotional.
Cheers from England 🏴
I’m definitely planning to visit there. My wife’s grandfather was stationed nearby at Kimbolton during WW2. He was a ball turret gunner on a B-17
@@VloggingThroughHistory great to hear if you haven’t been before I hope you enjoy the UK. A ball turret gunner is one job I would never have wanted there again at 5ft 10 I wouldn’t have fitted in 😊
@@VloggingThroughHistory just watching your video reacting to the history of the world and you said your ancestors are from Tipton, so are mine my fathers family are all from there although I live 10 miles west of there now. Check out the Black Country dialect that is spoken in Tipton and can be unintelligible to others. It’s one of England’s oldest regional dialects still using elements of Middle English and German words such as bay.
The dude on the left looks like a gta 5 character.
This is totally unrelated to WW1, but I know you're a huge Civil War buff, and thought I'd make a request. I definitely think you should check out some videos showcasing the video game Hunt: Showdown. It's a really interesting shooter game set in 1896 Louisiana in an alternate timeline where a supernatural plague happens in the bayou. The game is chock full of tidbits of postbellum history and all of the guns and equipment are modeled after history, with several variants based on concepts that were either only prototypes or were never successfully produced. For a guy like me who's into the Civil War and the history of the US conflicts with the native Americans postbellum, it's crazy cool seeing characters using modified surplus overcoats, wearing kepis or US cavalry hats, and walking around a Louisiana full of buildings modeled after real-world architecture of the late 1800s.
most American battalion ever
The 101st at baston ( i doubt thats how you spell it) with the reply of NUTS is pretty American aswell
Could you react to Qin Dynasty Origins by Cool History Bros? It's similar to Extra History, I really want to promote them.
Was it the biggest battle in terms of men in US history?
Yes. Though it's hard to define it as a single battle but rather an offensive with many battles.
Wasn't Al Capone in the lost battalion
He never served in the military.
@@VloggingThroughHistory I see that now he lied about serving to explained the scars
So, your son's joke is like the joke about invading russia in winter...
I think it's just invading Russia full stop really there's no way to beat them before winter sets in again might as well not bother in the first place rain or shine 😂
@@leodesalis5915 Russia is Big, need a lot of ground to cover before winter comes knocking at your door with a nice nailgun
Your subscriber count is criminally low
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